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In a word, why climate change matters: Water

Started bySam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
First post2016-05-27 19:15 -0500
Last post2016-05-28 16:23 +0000
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  In a word, why climate change matters: Water Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 19:15 -0500
    Re: In a word, why climate change matters: Water jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-28 00:30 +0000
    Re: In a word, why climate change matters: Water Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-27 20:02 -0500
    Climate change is a pseudo science 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-05-28 12:35 +0000
      Re: Climate change is a pseudo science Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 08:18 -0500
        Re: Climate change is a pseudo science 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-05-28 13:53 +0000
          Re: Climate change is a pseudo science Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 08:57 -0500
            Re: Climate change is a pseudo science jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-28 16:21 +0000
              tetrahedronometry noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 15:36 -0700
                Re: tetrahedronometry ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-29 11:45 -0500
                  see SynergeticS by Are Buckafka Fullofit noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 12:23 -0700
                    Re: see SynergeticS by Are Buckafka Fullofit ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-29 14:56 -0500
                      Re: see SynergeticS by Are Buckafka Fullofit "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-29 13:48 -0700
        Re: Climate change is a pseudo science jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-28 16:20 +0000
          Re: Climate change is a pseudo science benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-28 16:08 -0400
            Re: Climate change is a pseudo science jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-28 20:23 +0000
      Re: Climate change is a pseudo science Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 08:53 -0500
        Re: Climate change is a pseudo science jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-28 16:22 +0000
      Re: Climate change is a pseudo science Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 19:31 -0500
        Re: Climate change is a pseudo science jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-01 01:26 +0000
        Re: Climate change is a pseudo science Sleepalot <sleepalot07@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-01 06:46 +0100
    Re: In a word, why climate change matters: Water Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 09:49 -0500
      Re: In a word, why climate change matters: Water jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-28 16:23 +0000

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#582082 — Re: Climate change is a pseudo science

FromSleepalot <sleepalot07@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2016-06-01 06:46 +0100
SubjectRe: Climate change is a pseudo science
Message-ID<nilsre$f5d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#582010
On 01/06/2016 01:31, Sam Wormley wrote:

> The Boiling Pot
>> http://www.postcarbon.org/the-boiling-pot/
>

An excercise in propaganda. It begins with an irrelevant
emotional rollercoaster to soften you up.

>> On the surface, things appear normal.

Appeal to fear. Create tension, like the ascent of the rollercoaster.

> The status quo of life in
>> America circa 2016 isn’t to everyone’s liking, but at least the
>> system is still working after a fashion.

Appeal to the common man. (Yay! Sytem is working! :)

> The price of oil is going up
>> a bit: that means the cost of driving is also creeping higher,

Appeal to fear. (Ooooh! Worry, worry.)

  but
>> steeper prices provide a little welcome relief for an oil industry
>> otherwise teetering on the brink of financial ruin.

False claim.  (That's supposed to be an emotional lift, but only if 
you're among the converted.)

> There are
>> tiresomely long lines at airports,

(Booo! Long lines. Never been in an airport queue myself - propagandist
failing to connect with his audience.)

  but that means people have the
>> wherewithal to pay for plane tickets.

(Yay! People still have disposable incomes.)

Ambiguous assertion. People don't earn money by standing patiently in 
long lines. "Shows" would have been better choice than "means".

> Most people are disgusted with
>> the presumptive U.S. presidential candidates,

(Booo! Trump and Clinton. This propagandist doesn't wish to appear 
partisan - trying not to alienate the audience.)

> but at least the
>> machine of electoral politics is still marginally functioning.

(Yay! the system still works.)

> The stock market is up,

(Yay!)

> unemployment is down.

(Yay! Broke the rythym. Rule of three?)

We’re muddling through.

(Phew)

>>
>> Or are we?

(Uh-oh scared now.)

> Beneath the lid, a pot of trends is coming to a boil.

(What lid? What pot? WTF? I'm scared!)

> If Carl Jung was right about the existence of a collective unconscious,
>> it must be seething with nightmares right about now.

(OMFG! Everbody's scared!!! Time to get to work.)

>> So far, 2016 is the hottest year in history.

Lie. History is the era of writing - by definition -
which goes back to about 3600BC (Wikiped) which
covers the Medieval, Roman and Minoan warm periods -
all of which were warmer than present.

> And not by just a smidgen:

Lie, see above.

> every single month so far has set a record.

Utter drivel - and meaningless drivel at that.

>  This handy little animation

This other piece of propaganda ...

> has been making the roundsof environmental websites
> in the last couple of weeks;

... is required reading for the faithful...

> it shows a climate system that is shooting off the rails.

... and is wildly misleading.





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#581204

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-28 09:49 -0500
Message-ID<gY2dnf--L9eRLdTKnZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#581117
A Warming World Means Less Water, With Economic Consequences
> http://www.npr.org/2016/05/22/479084475/a-warming-world-means-less-water-with-economic-consequences


> We often associate climate change with too much water — the melting
> ice caps triggering a rise in sea levels. Now a new World Bank report
> says we also need to think about too little water — the potable
> sort.
>
> High and Dry: Climate Change, Water, and the Economy examines the
> future effects of diminishing water supplies on the world.
> "Water-related climate risks cascade through food, energy, urban, and
> environmental systems," researchers write. "Growing populations,
> rising incomes, and expanding cities will converge upon a world where
> the demand for water rises exponentially, while supply becomes more
> erratic and uncertain."
>
> The World Bank says that in areas where water is readily available,
> like Central Africa and East Asia, it could become harder to find.
> And in areas like the Middle East, already facing water problems,
> "scarcity will greatly worsen."
>
> The authors also note the spikes in food prices a water shortage
> would cause, which in turn would likely lead to conflict.
>

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#581247

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-05-28 16:23 +0000
Message-ID<u9to1d-1p4.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#581204
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> A Warming World Means Less Water, With Economic Consequences

Then it is a good thing it is all nonsense, shit head.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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