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  Element 123 predicted Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-06-30 13:49 -0700
    Element 123 predicted Lord Kronos Prime <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-30 14:02 -0700
      Element 123 predicted Lord Kronos Prime <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-30 14:06 -0700
        Element 123 predicted "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-30 14:26 -0700
          Element 123 predicted "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-30 14:51 -0700
            Element 123 predicted "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-30 15:09 -0700
          Re: Element 123 predicted Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-07-01 08:44 -0700
        Re: Element 123 predicted poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-30 22:27 -0700
          Re: Element 123 predicted poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-06-30 22:48 -0700
            Re: Element 123 predicted Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-07-01 08:45 -0700
              Re: Element 123 predicted poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-07-01 19:07 -0700
    Re: Element 123 predicted "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-07-01 13:58 -0700
      Re: Element 123 predicted Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-07-02 16:12 -0700
        Re: Element 123 predicted jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-02 23:44 +0000
          Re: Element 123 predicted Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 09:30 -0700
            Re: Element 123 predicted jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 17:58 +0000
              Re: Element 123 predicted Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 08:57 -0700
                Re: Element 123 predicted jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 16:43 +0000
        Re: Element 123 predicted "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 20:10 -0700
          Re: Element 123 predicted poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-07-06 07:39 -0700
          Re: Element 123 predicted Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 08:55 -0700
          Re: Element 123 predicted Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:29 -0700
    Re: Element 123 predicted Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 09:14 -0700
      Re: Element 123 predicted poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-07-05 17:37 -0700
      Re: Element 123 predicted Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:05 -0700
        Re: Element 123 predicted Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:52 -0700
          Re: Element 123 predicted Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 13:16 -0700
            Re: Element 123 predicted poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-07-06 22:33 -0700
            Re: Element 123 predicted Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 08:17 -0700
              Re: Element 123 predicted Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 08:53 -0700
                Re: Element 123 predicted jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-07 17:15 +0000

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#638315 — Element 123 predicted

Some models were built of a nucleus of a heavy element.
Here is a link to photographs of the isotope 305 proposal.

http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/element-123.html

It looks similar to Iron. It has a lower atomic mass
than would be the case if it were unstable. It is
predicted to be stable and ferromagnetic.
I call it Ferrodine 305.

123 Fo 305


Compare it with Iron 57.

http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/iron-57.html

The sphere stacking was done with 
garbanzo beans and elmer's glue all.

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#638316

https://goo.gl/photos/vhwHQPTRDqaB7LRt5

U 92
Folmsbium 123
Same as Uranium one Electron Orbit shell deeper

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#638317

https://goo.gl/photos/vhwHQPTRDqaB7LRt5 

U 92 
Folmsbium 123 
Same as Uranium one Electron Orbit shell deeper 


Closer to 59 Praseodymium

Praseodymium is a chemical element with symbol Pr and atomic number 59. It is the third member of the lanthanide series and is traditionally considered to be one of the rare earth metals. Praseodymium is a soft, silvery, malleable and ductile metal, valued for its magnetic, electrical, chemical, and optical properties.

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#638320

http://planetstar.wikia.com/wiki/Feynmanium

Feynmanium 137

137 + (100 + 137) = 374

Neutrons inside Atoms are not real discrete things. Just combined superimposed Waves and nodes

The nucleus magic numbers appear to be completely Farcical  

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#638323

1 / (((374 / 137) / 2.75) - 0.9927) = 1.37e+6

1 / ((237 / 137) - 1) = 1.37

1 / (1 - 0.9927) = 136.98630137

137 * (1 - 0.9927) = 1.0001

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#638330

2 / ((137 / 135) - 1) = 135

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#638389

On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:26:23 AM UTC-10, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> http://planetstar.wikia.com/wiki/Feynmanium
> 
> Feynmanium 137
> 
> 137 + (100 + 137) = 374
> 
> Neutrons inside Atoms are not real discrete things. Just combined superimposed Waves and nodes
> 
> The nucleus magic numbers appear to be completely Farcical

The idea that neutrons are "waves and nodes" is a perfect example
of mathematicians insisting that physics cannot have real 
particles, reasonable geometric explanations, or comprehensible
concepts. 

Dear Kronos Prime, I offer reasonable physics to be understood
without algebraic totalitarianism. Geometry is my preferred mathematic.

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#638361

On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 12:06:10 AM UTC+3, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> https://goo.gl/photos/vhwHQPTRDqaB7LRt5 
> 
> U 92 
> Folmsbium 123 
> Same as Uranium one Electron Orbit shell deeper 
> 
> 
> Closer to 59 Praseodymium
> 
> Praseodymium is a chemical element with symbol Pr and atomic number 59. It is the third member of the lanthanide series and is traditionally considered to be one of the rare earth metals. Praseodymium is a soft, silvery, malleable and ductile metal, valued for its magnetic, electrical, chemical, and optical properties.

============================
I suggest you see 
Google
'the y porat model - an abstract '

the nucleus from fluorine upwards is a sort  of 
a '''rectangular pipe 
or better' hexagonal  pipe'
built of 4 alpha particles as a base  link
as shown better by graphics 
better than words !  
(one picture is worth a thousand words !
yet it is not only graphics
it is substantiated by endless calculations 
that the bas of it was discovered by my
step by step 
by endless trial and error  calculations
(more than a thousand !!
(about about   7 years of intense work !!
including
verifications from 
chemistry crystallography nuclear data etc etc
verifications and cross cross  verifications
what you se there  at that site 
is only an abstract (appetizer )
of  a book 
copyrighted 1993 !! 
=====
TIA
Eng 
Y.Porat
============================== 

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#638366

On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 8:28:01 AM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 12:06:10 AM UTC+3, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > https://goo.gl/photos/vhwHQPTRDqaB7LRt5 
> > 
> > U 92 
> > Folmsbium 123 
> > Same as Uranium one Electron Orbit shell deeper 
> > 
> > 
> > Closer to 59 Praseodymium
> > 
> > Praseodymium is a chemical element with symbol Pr and atomic number 59. It is the third member of the lanthanide series and is traditionally considered to be one of the rare earth metals. Praseodymium is a soft, silvery, malleable and ductile metal, valued for its magnetic, electrical, chemical, and optical properties.
> 
> ============================
> I suggest you see 
> Google
> 'the y porat model - an abstract '
> 
> the nucleus from fluorine upwards is a sort  of 
> a '''rectangular pipe 
> or better' hexagonal  pipe'
> built of 4 alpha particles as a base  link
> as shown better by graphics 
> better than words !  
> (one picture is worth a thousand words !
> yet it is not only graphics
> it is substantiated by endless calculations 
> that the bas of it was discovered by my
> step by step 
> by endless trial and error  calculations
> (more than a thousand !!
> (about about   7 years of intense work !!
> including
> verifications from 
> chemistry crystallography nuclear data etc etc
> verifications and cross cross  verifications
> what you se there  at that site 
> is only an abstract (appetizer )
> of  a book 
> copyrighted 1993 !! 
> =====
> TIA
> Eng 
> Y.Porat
> ==============================
some dirty pigs maliciously *** criminals against mankind!!*** 
contaminated***above  link
so 
just because of it !!!!!
better see 
Google 
'the y porat model- an abstract '
 --in Google   sites !!!!
TIA
Y.Porat
================================== 

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#638390

On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 7:48:37 PM UTC-10, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 8:28:01 AM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 12:06:10 AM UTC+3, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > https://goo.gl/photos/vhwHQPTRDqaB7LRt5 
> > > 
> > > U 92 
> > > Folmsbium 123 
> > > Same as Uranium one Electron Orbit shell deeper 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Closer to 59 Praseodymium
> > > 
> > > Praseodymium is a chemical element with symbol Pr and atomic number 59. It is the third member of the lanthanide series and is traditionally considered to be one of the rare earth metals. Praseodymium is a soft, silvery, malleable and ductile metal, valued for its magnetic, electrical, chemical, and optical properties.
> > 
> > ============================
> > I suggest you see 
> > Google
> > 'the y porat model - an abstract '
> > 
> > the nucleus from fluorine upwards is a sort  of 
> > a '''rectangular pipe 
> > or better' hexagonal  pipe'
> > built of 4 alpha particles as a base  link
> > as shown better by graphics 
> > better than words !  
> > (one picture is worth a thousand words !
> > yet it is not only graphics
> > it is substantiated by endless calculations 
> > that the bas of it was discovered by my
> > step by step 
> > by endless trial and error  calculations
> > (more than a thousand !!
> > (about about   7 years of intense work !!
> > including
> > verifications from 
> > chemistry crystallography nuclear data etc etc
> > verifications and cross cross  verifications
> > what you se there  at that site 
> > is only an abstract (appetizer )
> > of  a book 
> > copyrighted 1993 !! 
> > =====
> > TIA
> > Eng 
> > Y.Porat
> > ==============================
> some dirty pigs maliciously *** criminals against mankind!!*** 
> contaminated***above  link
> so 
> just because of it !!!!!
> better see 
> Google 
> 'the y porat model- an abstract '
>  --in Google   sites !!!!
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ==================================

Dear Y. , 

The link you provided is not legible.
I am interested in your writings.
Where can I see the words and pictures?

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#638465

On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 6:45:41 PM UTC+3, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 7:48:37 PM UTC-10, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 8:28:01 AM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 12:06:10 AM UTC+3, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > > https://goo.gl/photos/vhwHQPTRDqaB7LRt5 
> > > > 
> > > > U 92 
> > > > Folmsbium 123 
> > > > Same as Uranium one Electron Orbit shell deeper 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Closer to 59 Praseodymium
> > > > 
> > > > Praseodymium is a chemical element with symbol Pr and atomic number 59. It is the third member of the lanthanide series and is traditionally considered to be one of the rare earth metals. Praseodymium is a soft, silvery, malleable and ductile metal, valued for its magnetic, electrical, chemical, and optical properties.
> > > 
> > > ============================
> > > I suggest you see 
> > > Google
> > > 'the y porat model - an abstract '
> > > 
> > > the nucleus from fluorine upwards is a sort  of 
> > > a '''rectangular pipe 
> > > or better' hexagonal  pipe'
> > > built of 4 alpha particles as a base  link
> > > as shown better by graphics 
> > > better than words !  
> > > (one picture is worth a thousand words !
> > > yet it is not only graphics
> > > it is substantiated by endless calculations 
> > > that the bas of it was discovered by my
> > > step by step 
> > > by endless trial and error  calculations
> > > (more than a thousand !!
> > > (about about   7 years of intense work !!
> > > including
> > > verifications from 
> > > chemistry crystallography nuclear data etc etc
> > > verifications and cross cross  verifications
> > > what you se there  at that site 
> > > is only an abstract (appetizer )
> > > of  a book 
> > > copyrighted 1993 !! 
> > > =====
> > > TIA
> > > Eng 
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ==============================
> > some dirty pigs maliciously *** criminals against mankind!!*** 
> > contaminated***above  link
> > so 
> > just because of it !!!!!
> > better see 
> > Google 
> > 'the y porat model- an abstract '
> >  --in Google   sites !!!!
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ==================================
> 
> Dear Y. , 
> 
> The link you provided is not legible.
> I am interested in your writings.
> Where can I see the words and pictures?
--
sorry  Dear Alan 
as is 
my site was maliciously contaminated !!
so
try see 
Google 
'the y porat model an abstract'
but not as lately contaminated 
but in its origin  !

ie
seek it in Google 
but you have to adD
on the line of search
the words 
Google sites !!
ie
'the y porat model - an abstract - google sites' 

you get there a pdf  big   file 
that has to be opened by acrobat reader 
even so
it is **only** an abstract of my book !!

from 1993  American copyright !!!
==
TIA
Y.Porat
=================

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#638420

On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 1:49:33 PM UTC-7, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> Some models were built of a nucleus of a heavy element.
> Here is a link to photographs of the isotope 305 proposal.
> 
> http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/element-123.html
> 
> It looks similar to Iron. It has a lower atomic mass
> than would be the case if it were unstable. It is
> predicted to be stable and ferromagnetic.

  Why do you imply that the arrangement of nucleons affects whether an isotope is ferromagnetic?


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#638555

On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 10:58:49 AM UTC-10, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 1:49:33 PM UTC-7, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> > Some models were built of a nucleus of a heavy element.
> > Here is a link to photographs of the isotope 305 proposal.
> > 
> > http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/element-123.html
> > 
> > It looks similar to Iron. It has a lower atomic mass
> > than would be the case if it were unstable. It is
> > predicted to be stable and ferromagnetic.
> 
>   Why do you imply that the arrangement of nucleons affects whether an isotope is ferromagnetic?
> 
> 
>   Mark L. Fergerson

The research was undertaken to answer, "Why is Iron magnetic?

A sphere stacking model indicated that Iron has a shape of 
two loops of protons. This is unlike non-ferrous elements 
using the same sphere stacking style. The clear distinction
of geometries leads me to conclude that the shape of the
nucleus makes it ferrous or non-ferrous.

You may be aware that transformers use two loops.
The Iron nucleus has the shape of a transformer: two loops.
A transformer is a magnetic device.
Iron is a magnetic element.

Please compare the elements in this image:

http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/nonferrous-nuclei.html

Figure 1 compares Copper and Manganese with Iron. You can see
the models of the nuclei for non-ferrous elements do not
have a loop shape. Copper has 29 protons, but that extra
proton ruins a loop that Nickel has intact.

The cubic hexapyramid has been discovered to produce models with
predictive power for physics.

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#638558

Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 10:58:49 AM UTC-10, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
>> On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 1:49:33 PM UTC-7, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>> > Some models were built of a nucleus of a heavy element.
>> > Here is a link to photographs of the isotope 305 proposal.
>> > 
>> > http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/element-123.html
>> > 
>> > It looks similar to Iron. It has a lower atomic mass
>> > than would be the case if it were unstable. It is
>> > predicted to be stable and ferromagnetic.
>> 
>>   Why do you imply that the arrangement of nucleons affects whether an isotope is ferromagnetic?
>> 
>> 
>>   Mark L. Fergerson
> 
> The research was undertaken to answer, "Why is Iron magnetic?

Or you could have looked it up and obtained a correct answer.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Solids/ferro.html

https://www.reference.com/science/iron-magnetic-wood-c1ca08ab7af2f7de

http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/PY106/MagMaterials.html



-- 
Jim Pennino

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#638757

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 1:46:07 PM UTC-10, jim.spam wrote:
> Alan Folmsbee <omm> wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 10:58:49 AM UTC-10, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> >> On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 1:49:33 PM UTC-7, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> >> > Some models were built of a nucleus of a heavy element.
> >> > Here is a link to photographs of the isotope 305 proposal.
> >> > 
> >> > http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/element-123.html
> >> > 
> >> > It looks similar to Iron. It has a lower atomic mass
> >> > than would be the case if it were unstable. It is
> >> > predicted to be stable and ferromagnetic.
> >> 
> >>   Why do you imply that the arrangement of nucleons affects whether an isotope is ferromagnetic?
> >> 
> >> 
> >>   Mark L. Fergerson
> > 
> > The research was undertaken to answer, "Why is Iron magnetic?
> 
> Or you could have looked it up and obtained a correct answer.
> 
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Solids/ferro.html
> 
> https://www.reference.com/science/iron-magnetic-wood-c1ca08ab7af2f7de
> 
> http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/PY106/MagMaterials.html
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino

Hello JP, 

Here is what your first reference said, and failed to name the cause:

"Ferromagnetic materials exhibit a long-range ordering phenomenon 
at the atomic level which causes the unpaired electron spins to 
line up parallel with each other in a region called a domain."

Something causes the electron spins to line up, but your reference
failed to state that the cause of the electrons spins changing is
due to the nucleus. Iron is different from Manganese. Its nucleus has
one more proton than Mn.

Here is the comparison image of Mn versus Fe

http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/nonferrous-nuclei.html


AF

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#638782

Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 1:46:07 PM UTC-10, jim.spam wrote:
>> Alan Folmsbee <omm> wrote:
>> > On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 10:58:49 AM UTC-10, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
>> >> On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 1:49:33 PM UTC-7, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>> >> > Some models were built of a nucleus of a heavy element.
>> >> > Here is a link to photographs of the isotope 305 proposal.
>> >> > 
>> >> > http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/element-123.html
>> >> > 
>> >> > It looks similar to Iron. It has a lower atomic mass
>> >> > than would be the case if it were unstable. It is
>> >> > predicted to be stable and ferromagnetic.
>> >> 
>> >>   Why do you imply that the arrangement of nucleons affects whether an isotope is ferromagnetic?
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>   Mark L. Fergerson
>> > 
>> > The research was undertaken to answer, "Why is Iron magnetic?
>> 
>> Or you could have looked it up and obtained a correct answer.
>> 
>> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Solids/ferro.html
>> 
>> https://www.reference.com/science/iron-magnetic-wood-c1ca08ab7af2f7de
>> 
>> http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/PY106/MagMaterials.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jim Pennino
> 
> Hello JP, 
> 
> Here is what your first reference said, and failed to name the cause:

You were given three references, each containing links.

<nonsense snipped>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#638904

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-10, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Alan Folmsbee <omnil.com> wrote:

 http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/element-123.html

> >> >> > 
> >> >> > It looks similar to Iron. It has a lower atomic mass
> >> >> > than would be the case if it were unstable. It is
> >> >> > predicted to be stable and ferromagnetic.
> >> >> 
> >> >>   Why do you imply that the arrangement of nucleons affects whether an isotope is ferromagnetic?
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >>   Mark L. Fergerson
> >> > 
> >> > The research was undertaken to answer, "Why is Iron magnetic?
> >> 
> >> Or you could have looked it up and obtained a correct answer.
> >> 
> >> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Solids/ferro.html
> >> 
> >> https://www.reference.com/science/iron-magnetic-wood-c1ca08ab7af2f7de
> >> 
> >> http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/PY106/MagMaterials.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Jim Pennino
> > 
> > Hello JP, 
> > 
> > Here is what your first reference said, and failed to name the cause:
> 
> You were given three references, each containing links.
> 
> <nonsense snipped>
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino

Thank you for your interest in the universe.
We are closed right now.

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#638910

Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-10, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Alan Folmsbee <omnil.com> wrote:
> 
>  http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/element-123.html
> 
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > It looks similar to Iron. It has a lower atomic mass
>> >> >> > than would be the case if it were unstable. It is
>> >> >> > predicted to be stable and ferromagnetic.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>   Why do you imply that the arrangement of nucleons affects whether an isotope is ferromagnetic?
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>   Mark L. Fergerson
>> >> > 
>> >> > The research was undertaken to answer, "Why is Iron magnetic?
>> >> 
>> >> Or you could have looked it up and obtained a correct answer.
>> >> 
>> >> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Solids/ferro.html
>> >> 
>> >> https://www.reference.com/science/iron-magnetic-wood-c1ca08ab7af2f7de
>> >> 
>> >> http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/PY106/MagMaterials.html
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> -- 
>> >> Jim Pennino
>> > 
>> > Hello JP, 
>> > 
>> > Here is what your first reference said, and failed to name the cause:
>> 
>> You were given three references, each containing links.
>> 
>> <nonsense snipped>
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jim Pennino
> 
> Thank you for your interest in the universe.
> We are closed right now.

That was made obvious in your first post.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#639052

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 4:12:14 PM UTC-7, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 10:58:49 AM UTC-10, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> > On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 1:49:33 PM UTC-7, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> > > Some models were built of a nucleus of a heavy element.
> > > Here is a link to photographs of the isotope 305 proposal.
> > > 
> > > http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/element-123.html
> > > 
> > > It looks similar to Iron. It has a lower atomic mass
> > > than would be the case if it were unstable. It is
> > > predicted to be stable and ferromagnetic.
> > 
> >   Why do you imply that the arrangement of nucleons affects whether an
> > isotope is ferromagnetic?
> 
> The research was undertaken to answer, "Why is Iron magnetic?

  Your explanation must also explain why the platinum group metals are not.
 
> A sphere stacking model indicated that Iron has a shape of 
> two loops of protons. This is unlike non-ferrous elements 
> using the same sphere stacking style. The clear distinction
> of geometries leads me to conclude that the shape of the
> nucleus makes it ferrous or non-ferrous.
> 
> You may be aware that transformers use two loops.
> The Iron nucleus has the shape of a transformer: two loops.
> A transformer is a magnetic device.
>
> Iron is a magnetic element.

  Transformers do not require the presence of iron.

  Your nuclear "shape" concept needs verification.

  You have not explained how extremely short-range nuclear forces can influence atoms many many many nuclear diameters away.

  You have not explained why iron's magnetic properties depend on its oxidation state (a strictly electron-dependent phenomenon) and temperature.

  How does iron's temperature affect the structure of its nucleus, making it lose its magnetism when it gets too hot?

  Why is iron magnetic in some combinations with other elements but not others?

  How does chemistry affect your putative shapes of nuclei?

> Please compare the elements in this image:
> 
> http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/nonferrous-nuclei.html
> 
> Figure 1 compares Copper and Manganese with Iron. You can see
> the models of the nuclei for non-ferrous elements do not
> have a loop shape. Copper has 29 protons, but that extra
> proton ruins a loop that Nickel has intact.

  Yet, nickel is not permanently magnetizable, and a straight copper wire carrying current possesses a magnetic field.

  Your claim that nuclear shapes affect externally-measurable magnetism does not explain alnico or rare-earth magnets which contain no iron at all.


  Mark L. Fergerson

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On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 6:10:55 AM UTC+3, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 4:12:14 PM UTC-7, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 10:58:49 AM UTC-10, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> > > On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 1:49:33 PM UTC-7, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> > > > Some models were built of a nucleus of a heavy element.
> > > > Here is a link to photographs of the isotope 305 proposal.
> > > > 
> > > > http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/element-123.html
> > > > 
> > > > It looks similar to Iron. It has a lower atomic mass
> > > > than would be the case if it were unstable. It is
> > > > predicted to be stable and ferromagnetic.
> > > 
> > >   Why do you imply that the arrangement of nucleons affects whether an
> > > isotope is ferromagnetic?
> > 
> > The research was undertaken to answer, "Why is Iron magnetic?
> 
>   Your explanation must also explain why the platinum group metals are not.
>  
> > A sphere stacking model indicated that Iron has a shape of 
> > two loops of protons. This is unlike non-ferrous elements 
> > using the same sphere stacking style. The clear distinction
> > of geometries leads me to conclude that the shape of the
> > nucleus makes it ferrous or non-ferrous.
> > 
> > You may be aware that transformers use two loops.
> > The Iron nucleus has the shape of a transformer: two loops.
> > A transformer is a magnetic device.
> >
> > Iron is a magnetic element.
> 
>   Transformers do not require the presence of iron.
> 
>   Your nuclear "shape" concept needs verification.
> 
>   You have not explained how extremely short-range nuclear forces can influence atoms many many many nuclear diameters away.
> 
>   You have not explained why iron's magnetic properties depend on its oxidation state (a strictly electron-dependent phenomenon) and temperature.
> 
>   How does iron's temperature affect the structure of its nucleus, making it lose its magnetism when it gets too hot?
> 
>   Why is iron magnetic in some combinations with other elements but not others?
> 
>   How does chemistry affect your putative shapes of nuclei?
> 
> > Please compare the elements in this image:
> > 
> > http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/nonferrous-nuclei.html
> > 
> > Figure 1 compares Copper and Manganese with Iron. You can see
> > the models of the nuclei for non-ferrous elements do not
> > have a loop shape. Copper has 29 protons, but that extra
> > proton ruins a loop that Nickel has intact.
> 
>   Yet, nickel is not permanently magnetizable, and a straight copper wire carrying current possesses a magnetic field.
> 
>   Your claim that nuclear shapes affect externally-measurable magnetism does not explain alnico or rare-earth magnets which contain no iron at all.
> 
> 
>   Mark L. Fergerson
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magnetism starts while 
there is some 
**a symmetry **  in electrons arrangement
which is in itself 
a result of some
**A symmetry** in nuclear structure !!
====================
TIA
Y.Porat 
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