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| Started by | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| First post | 2016-06-27 23:15 -0500 |
| Last post | 2016-07-03 10:33 -0500 |
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Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-27 23:15 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-28 14:12 -0400
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-28 13:58 -0700
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-06-28 19:42 -0400
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 01:14 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-28 23:45 -0700
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 10:31 -0700
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-29 14:48 -0400
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-28 18:23 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 14:15 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-30 18:13 -0400
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 20:40 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 01:50 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 21:20 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 05:57 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 11:22 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 16:34 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:19 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 17:39 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 13:02 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 18:58 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:23 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:38 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:10 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:32 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 15:54 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:11 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 17:33 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 09:18 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:10 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:25 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 17:44 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:57 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:03 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:33 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 14:41 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:55 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:15 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:19 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:33 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:02 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 21:19 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:47 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:42 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:11 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:26 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 19:41 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:04 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:27 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:35 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 09:16 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:41 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:52 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:38 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 20:12 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 15:37 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:54 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 16:03 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:34 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:03 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 17:23 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:46 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:19 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:27 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 19:43 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:05 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:32 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 09:23 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:08 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 11:53 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 12:26 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:43 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 13:45 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:49 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 22:57 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 17:25 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:01 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:32 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:03 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:39 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 09:35 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:54 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:03 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:43 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 19:58 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 01:12 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 23:20 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 06:00 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-03 09:45 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 17:04 +0000
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:44 -0500
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die; sick or not, Swiss or not. ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 21:38 -0500
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-02 19:00 -0400
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 23:24 +0000
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 16:36 -0700
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-02 19:59 -0400
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 17:06 -0700
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-07-02 21:08 -0600
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 20:32 -0700
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-07-03 14:58 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:55 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:16 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:37 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:59 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 21:21 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:45 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:12 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 17:36 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:38 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:16 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:41 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:55 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 14:46 -0700
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 17:07 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-03 00:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:44 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 20:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 14:10 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:41 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-03 00:16 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-03 10:33 -0500
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-27 23:15 -0500 |
| Subject | Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators |
| Message-ID | <nkstl3$11g8$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
Q: I have been suffering with leg cramps for years and years. Recently,
my doctor told me about tonic water with quinine. It does help the leg
cramps, but it is making me feel ill. My symptoms include fatigue,
nausea and vomiting. I have been very tired and want to sleep all the
time, which isn't like me. I am desperate to try something that works
without side effects.
A: Please seek immediate medical attention. You may be suffering from
quinine toxicity. Symptoms include abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting,
rash, flushing, fever and fatigue.
Quinine comes from the bark of the cinchona tree. This bitter compound
was used for centuries by the native people of Peru and Bolivia to fight
fevers. Jesuit missionaries brought it back to Europe in the 17th
century as an anti-malarial drug.
Quinine was available in the U.S. in over-the-counter and prescription
products that were used for treating leg cramps. In 1994, the Food and
Drug Administration banned OTC sale of quinine, and in 2007 restricted
prescription quinine exclusively to the treatment of malaria. The agency
took this action because some people have life-threatening responses to
quinine.
FDA: Don't Use Quinine for Leg Cramps
FDA Cracks Down on Unapproved Quinine Drugs, Cites Problems Including Deaths
By Miranda Hitti
WebMD Health News
Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD
WebMD News Archive
Dec. 12, 2006 -- The FDA is telling people not to use the malaria drug
quinine for leg cramps, citing potentially deadly side effects.
The FDA issued the advice today and ordered all unapproved drugs
containing quinine off the market within 60 days.
Qualaquin, the only FDA-approved quinine drug, can be used to treat
certain types of malaria; the new order doesn't change that.
But quinine is also often prescribed to treat leg cramps. That
unapproved use is too risky, says the FDA.
Quinine carries extensive warnings about possible side effects, including:
Potentially serious interactions with other drugs
Abnormal heart rhythms
Thrombocytopenia, a blood platelet disorder that can cause
hemorrhage or clotting problems
Severe hypersensitivity reactions
Since 1969, the FDA has received 665 reports of serious adverse events
tied to quinine, including 93 deaths.
Quinine has a narrow margin between effective and toxic doses, notes the
FDA.
The doses for Qualaquin have the FDA's approval for treatment of certain
types of malaria. But the FDA hasn't reviewed dosing for unapproved
quinine drugs.
"We believe unapproved quinine products represent a serious health risk
because of the widespread use of this product for treating leg cramps,"
Steven Galson, MD, MPH, says in the FDA news release. Galson directs the
FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research.
"Quinine needs to be dosed carefully, and FDA-approved labeling reflects
the fact that the risks associated with the use of this drug for
treatment of leg cramps outweigh the benefits," Galson says.
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| From | Jackpol11@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-06-28 14:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <35f5nblsiqn42569bah6r7c11r4haqf9u6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #587069 |
On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:15:27 -0500, Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >Q: I have been suffering with leg cramps for years and years. Recently, >my doctor told me about tonic water with quinine. It does help the leg >cramps, but it is making me feel ill. My symptoms include fatigue, >nausea and vomiting. I have been very tired and want to sleep all the >time, which isn't like me. I am desperate to try something that works >without side effects. > I used Quinine in tonic waterfor quite a while, but it never helped. Lately I tried Hyland's Leg Cramp pills, (it's all over Ebay) and it worked perfectly the first time and for the last three days. I may try skipping to try to minimize the dose. John P
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-28 13:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nkuom5$kjp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #587130 |
<Jackpol11@hotmail.com> wrote: > Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>Q: I have been suffering with leg cramps for years and years. Recently, >>my doctor told me about tonic water with quinine. It does help the leg >>cramps, but it is making me feel ill. My symptoms include fatigue, >>nausea and vomiting. I have been very tired and want to sleep all the >>time, which isn't like me. I am desperate to try something that works >>without side effects. >> <Jackpol11@hotmail.com> wrote: > I used Quinine in tonic waterfor quite a while, but it never helped. > Lately I tried Hyland's Leg Cramp pills, (it's all over Ebay) and it > worked perfectly the first time and for the last three days. > I may try skipping to try to minimize the dose. John P > hanson wrote: The quack-establishment stopped prescribing Quinine for nocturnal Leg Cramps, suddenly, and for unspecified reasons. They substituted it with "Ropinolol"..etc, which were even less effective. However it appears that chewing 2x250 mg MgO & 2000 mg K-Gluconate tabs or 1/4 tsp KCl (No-Salt) in the dinner food (for a few days) will give a leg cramp free night.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-28 19:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <57730b63$0$43890$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #587149 |
On 6/28/2016 4:58 PM, hanson wrote: > <Jackpol11@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>> Q: I have been suffering with leg cramps for years and years. >>> Recently, my doctor told me about tonic water with quinine. It does >>> help the leg cramps, but it is making me feel ill. My symptoms >>> include fatigue, nausea and vomiting. I have been very tired and want >>> to sleep all the time, which isn't like me. I am desperate to try >>> something that works without side effects. >>> > <Jackpol11@hotmail.com> wrote: >> I used Quinine in tonic waterfor quite a while, but it never helped. >> Lately I tried Hyland's Leg Cramp pills, (it's all over Ebay) and it >> worked perfectly the first time and for the last three days. I may try >> skipping to try to minimize the dose. John P >> > hanson wrote: > The quack-establishment stopped prescribing Quinine > for nocturnal Leg Cramps, suddenly, and for unspecified > reasons. They substituted it with "Ropinolol"..etc, which were even less > effective. > However it appears that chewing 2x250 mg MgO > & 2000 mg K-Gluconate tabs or 1/4 tsp KCl (No-Salt) > in the dinner food (for a few days) will give a leg cramp free night. > A friend of mine and his wife had cramps and he tried quinine for a while and it sort of helped. But then he gave up on it and last I saw him he had a bottle of hyland's and said it was working much better.
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-29 01:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mzn6o1axc2yq.18jmp0mpd0uqp$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587167 |
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:42:18 -0400, benj wrote:
>> hanson wrote:
>> The quack-establishment stopped prescribing Quinine
>> for nocturnal Leg Cramps, suddenly, and for unspecified
>> reasons. They substituted it with "Ropinolol"..etc, which were even less
>> effective.
>> However it appears that chewing 2x250 mg MgO
>> & 2000 mg K-Gluconate tabs or 1/4 tsp KCl (No-Salt)
>> in the dinner food (for a few days) will give a leg cramp free night.
>>
>
> A friend of mine and his wife had cramps and he tried quinine for a
> while and it sort of helped. But then he gave up on it and last I saw
> him he had a bottle of hyland's and said it was working much better.
Huh. The Der Sturmer guy is now prescribing meds for
us. Tell him Clutter says "shove zinc and relax.
--
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have a good laugh when it seeps down on
your face."
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-28 23:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nkvqr0$fvs$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #587203 |
>>> hanson wrote: >>> The quack-establishment stopped prescribing Quinine >>> for nocturnal Leg Cramps, suddenly, and for unspecified >>> reasons. They substituted it with "Ropinolol"..etc, which >>> were even less effective. >>> However it appears that chewing 2x250 mg MgO >>> & 2000 mg K-Gluconate tabs or 1/4 tsp KCl (No-Salt) >>> in the dinner food (for a few days) will give a leg cramp free night. >>> The parochial Iranian Babadook Muslime Transie Custard aka "ClutterFreak" <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> aka Mehram Maleki who is a virulent USA hater, proudly posted her Selfie as <http://tinyurl.com/Maleki-the-TG-Girl> & is also a troll who said loud & clear, on 19-May-2016, in "Re: Thou shalt not covet", that ____ "Maleki is talking bullshit"________, which s/he so did again as seen when s/he needed the criminality of a deranged Jew, Full Swine Glazier, to make her point, as seenb when Maldrecki wrote: "Harlow compared to me, or my father, you're a dolt." > USA Patriot "HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> aka Harlow Campbell wrote: Maybe (that is so) in your shithole country Iran > hanson wrote: Malicious Maldrecki, the Muslime, is Iran's counterpart to the USA's Jew Full-Swine Bert Glazier who like Cretin Glazier maintains to know how everything works, and like kikes Glazier behaves just like a dog that barks into the night, a distant noise, Maldrecki knows nothing about. LOL > Megalomaniacal Moron Mehram Custard Maldrecki wrote: Iran is slowly rising .... > hanson wrote: You're such a Moron, Mehram. You are also rising after you take a shit. Besides, you are slow on the uptake. Megalomaniacal & Overmedicated. Change your meds. > Now Mehram, why is it that Moslems flee, by the millions, into the West that you so hate and rail against? > Looks like you are jealous, Maleki, because you can't come here since you have been on a FBI watch list & on a TSA no-fly list for your hateful and nefarious behavior when you visited here some decades back. > How many Westerners, even Moslems, do leave the West and (im)migrate into to Iran?... NONE!... besides losers and basket cases, like yourself, who then join ISIS which is another thorn in your side. So much for Islame! LOL > Iran is ancient. It had its apex millennia ago. It rose and fell like Egypt, Greece & Rome.... never to ascend again, and stagnate now as a "further running appendage" Duh! > Malicious Maldrecki Custard wrote: USA is slowly on the sharp way down. > hanson wrote: You're such a Malfeasant, Malevolent Moron, Mehram. If anyone is on a sharp way down its you Maleki with all your geriatric Maladies that beset you. Pity. >. Let Harlow explain to you how & why the USA is, and will remain the predominant Player on the world stage. Hint: It renews itself with/by a constant stream of immigrants from all over the world, unlike Iran that has always been a closed Theocracy. Duh! >
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| From | "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-29 10:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7b194bd5-823a-493a-a273-9684e80720c4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #587167 |
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 4:42:29 PM UTC-7, benj wrote: > On 6/28/2016 4:58 PM, hanson wrote: > > <Jackpol11@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > > Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > >>> Q: I have been suffering with leg cramps for years and years. > >>> Recently, my doctor told me about tonic water with quinine. It does > >>> help the leg cramps, but it is making me feel ill. My symptoms > >>> include fatigue, nausea and vomiting. I have been very tired and want > >>> to sleep all the time, which isn't like me. I am desperate to try > >>> something that works without side effects. > >>> > > <Jackpol11@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> I used Quinine in tonic waterfor quite a while, but it never helped. > >> Lately I tried Hyland's Leg Cramp pills, (it's all over Ebay) and it > >> worked perfectly the first time and for the last three days. I may try > >> skipping to try to minimize the dose. John P > >> > > hanson wrote: > > The quack-establishment stopped prescribing Quinine > > for nocturnal Leg Cramps, suddenly, and for unspecified > > reasons. They substituted it with "Ropinolol"..etc, which were even less > > effective. > > However it appears that chewing 2x250 mg MgO > > & 2000 mg K-Gluconate tabs or 1/4 tsp KCl (No-Salt) > > in the dinner food (for a few days) will give a leg cramp free night. > > > > A friend of mine and his wife had cramps and he tried quinine for a > while and it sort of helped. But then he gave up on it and last I saw > him he had a bottle of hyland's and said it was working much better. At 88 I have leg cramps since it goes with old age.Here is my advice.Sleep with legs covered(warm) Drink a little red wine.Eat little or no red meat.If a diabetis person(like I) check you sugar at 9pm. If leg is cramped take 10 minutes to pee and put weight on cramped leg.Eat MSP for dinner. Trebert
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| From | Jackpol11@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-06-29 14:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rt58nbl777hi4tn2nl7ub3mihvka7hmikn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #587130 |
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:12:57 -0400, Jackpol11@hotmail.com wrote: >On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:15:27 -0500, Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> >wrote: > >>Q: I have been suffering with leg cramps for years and years. Recently, >>my doctor told me about tonic water with quinine. It does help the leg >>cramps, but it is making me feel ill. My symptoms include fatigue, >>nausea and vomiting. I have been very tired and want to sleep all the >>time, which isn't like me. I am desperate to try something that works >>without side effects. >> >I used Quinine in tonic waterfor quite a while, but it never helped. >Lately I tried Hyland's Leg Cramp pills, (it's all over Ebay) and it >worked perfectly the first time and for the last three days. >I may try skipping to try to minimize the dose. John P I skipped last night and got cramps. It's no help to take a tablet after cramps start. Take one well before bedtime.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-06-28 18:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hura4d-v6c.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587069 |
Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > Q: I have been suffering with leg cramps for years and years. Recently, > my doctor told me about tonic water with quinine. It does help the leg > cramps, but it is making me feel ill. My symptoms include fatigue, > nausea and vomiting. I have been very tired and want to sleep all the > time, which isn't like me. I am desperate to try something that works > without side effects. Stop adding gin to the tonic. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-29 14:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1n4bkre8cnp4x.i8oquibbuw2h$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587069 |
On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:15:27 -0500, Sergio wrote: > leg cramps What do you all mean by "leg cramp" anyway? Do you mean the uneasiness in legs while in bed or do you mean actual muscle spasms? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | Jackpol11@hotmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-06-30 18:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <n06bnb1htcd38bj9li5rakptfmro4a16v0@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #587269 |
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:15:01 -0500, ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> wrote: >On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:15:27 -0500, Sergio wrote: > >> leg cramps > >What do you all mean by "leg cramp" anyway? Do you >mean the uneasiness in legs while in bed or do you >mean actual muscle spasms? > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >https://www.avast.com/antivirus The latter.You wake up feeling the first muscle cramping and then accelerating to more muscles, so you better jump on the floor and do what you can, typically stand on the ball of the foot and force it to restore 90 degrees.
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-30 20:40 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1cf8q2atby6js.1gncpozwcgaf5.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587384 |
On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:13:04 -0400, Jackpol11@hotmail.com wrote: > The latter.You wake up feeling the first muscle cramping and then > accelerating to more muscles, so you better jump on the floor and do > what you can, typically stand on the ball of the foot and force it to > restore 90 degrees Strange thing. Why wouldn't you use the med for tetanus, whatever it is. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 01:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <8rug4d-5s2.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587390 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > Strange thing. Why wouldn't you use the med for > tetanus, whatever it is. You mean other than that would be completely and blazingly stupid? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-30 21:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <cpa8yyh8kjgz.1jcesmemkj4xp.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587393 |
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 01:50:00 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > >> Strange thing. Why wouldn't you use the med for >> tetanus, whatever it is. > > You mean other than that would be completely and blazingly stupid? > Oh well, whatever. You have a better idea? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 05:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <tbdh4d-q44.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587396 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 01:50:00 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >> >>> Strange thing. Why wouldn't you use the med for >>> tetanus, whatever it is. >> >> You mean other than that would be completely and blazingly stupid? >> > > Oh well, whatever. You have a better idea? See a doctor to determine the actual cause and have that treated. Duh. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 11:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1df4nq7p31qd3$.7wyy4eitv7n6.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587452 |
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 05:57:49 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 01:50:00 -0000, >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Strange thing. Why wouldn't you use the med for >>>> tetanus, whatever it is. >>> >>> You mean other than that would be completely and blazingly stupid? >>> >> >> Oh well, whatever. You have a better idea? > > See a doctor to determine the actual cause and have that treated. > > Duh. > That's what engineers do :) Have a little sense of experimentation Jim. If I remember right (i.e. this is the part you snip), what they used for tetanus cases was some poison from Africa. It came from a plant and would render muscles inactive. I don't want to dig into it but I think a tiny bit of that poison (or med) might do wonders for bad cases of muscle spasm. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 16:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <emii4d-v88.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587476 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 05:57:49 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 01:50:00 -0000, >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Strange thing. Why wouldn't you use the med for >>>>> tetanus, whatever it is. >>>> >>>> You mean other than that would be completely and blazingly stupid? >>>> >>> >>> Oh well, whatever. You have a better idea? >> >> See a doctor to determine the actual cause and have that treated. >> >> Duh. >> > > That's what engineers do :) Have a little sense of > experimentation Jim. > > If I remember right (i.e. this is the part you snip), > what they used for tetanus cases was some poison from > Africa. It came from a plant and would render muscles > inactive. I don't want to dig into it but I think a > tiny bit of that poison (or med) might do wonders for > bad cases of muscle spasm. How about once in your life you actually look something up instead of spouting your usual nonsense? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus#Treatment -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 12:19 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <btzteo1ke9eg.1chwb0xnqi6iw.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587480 |
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > How about once in your life you actually look something up instead of > spouting your usual nonsense? Hmm. How about once in your life you don't run to others? Aren't you comfortable with your own head? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 17:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <remi4d-dl8.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587485 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> How about once in your life you actually look something up instead of >> spouting your usual nonsense? > > Hmm. How about once in your life you don't run to > others? Aren't you comfortable with your own head? Extremely, which is why I called you post blazingly stupid, but I am not about to type in a bunch of information that is readily available to correct your astonding ignorance. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 13:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1m7jpv7rv1zvi$.1luzn5ae9tiyv.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587493 |
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:39:07 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:34:54 -0000, >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>> How about once in your life you actually look something up instead of >>> spouting your usual nonsense? >> >> Hmm. How about once in your life you don't run to >> others? Aren't you comfortable with your own head? > > Extremely, which is why I called you post blazingly stupid, but I am > not about to type in a bunch of information that is readily available > to correct your astonding ignorance. > "Information that is readily available." See that degree of dependence on others can deprive you from discoveries like what I found about Robert Brout :) If you're so confident of yourself then start from scratch and do a little thinking before first running to others. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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