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How does Doppler Begin a Story?

Started bySam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
First post2015-12-02 12:01 -0600
Last post2015-12-02 20:24 -0800
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  How does Doppler Begin a Story? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 12:01 -0600
    Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 12:53 -0800
      Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 16:45 -0600
        Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 13:12 -0800
          Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 15:38 -0600
      Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 22:12 -0500
    Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-02 15:11 -0600
      Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-02 21:29 +0000
        Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-02 16:30 -0600
          Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-02 23:46 +0000
            Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-03 16:49 -0600
              Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-04 00:26 +0000
              Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-04 00:42 +0000
    Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 14:23 -0800
      Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 16:47 -0600
        Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-12-03 03:46 +0000
          Re: How does Doppler Begin a Story? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 20:24 -0800

#537004 — How does Doppler Begin a Story?

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-02 12:01 -0600
SubjectHow does Doppler Begin a Story?
Message-ID<0aOdnUyT2KF7rMLLnZ2dnUU7-TmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
How does Doppler Begin a Story?

   Once upon a shifted wavelength...

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#537024

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-02 12:53 -0800
Message-ID<ea09125f-c92c-4ab7-a789-e5d839417568@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#537004
On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 10:01:20 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> How does Doppler Begin a Story?
> 
>    Once upon a shifted wavelength...
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
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With the color Purple.Think Spielberg.TreBert

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#537035

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-02 16:45 -0600
Message-ID<pcCdnYM3p9Pp6cLLnZ2dnUU7-fOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#537024
On 12/2/15 2:53 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:

>
> With the color Purple.Think Spielberg.TreBert
>


   Basic Physics, there is no wavelength of light that corresponds to
   purple... or pink. Get the picture?


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#537206

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-03 13:12 -0800
Message-ID<d46a5278-935f-41b0-95ea-f3c5779dd5f4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#537035
On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 2:45:10 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 12/2/15 2:53 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> 
> >
> > With the color Purple.Think Spielberg.TreBert
> >
> 
> 
>    Basic Physics, there is no wavelength of light that corresponds to
>    purple... or pink. Get the picture?
> 
> 
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> 
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> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

My cop girl friend Sandy has pink sunglasses.They only allow the wave lengths of pink come through.Get the picture TreBert

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#537214

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-03 15:38 -0600
Message-ID<PsOdnTYprL3-K_3LnZ2dnUU7-XmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#537206
On 12/3/15 3:12 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>
> My cop girl friend Sandy has pink sunglasses.They only allow the wave
> lengths of pink come through.Get the picture TreBert
>


   I already pointed out to you there is no wave length for ping. The
   human eye/brain perceives "pink" by the retina be in stimulated by
   many wavelengths to produce "white" with a bit of extra red.

   It's Basic Physics.

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#537079

Frombenj <none@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-02 22:12 -0500
Message-ID<vqO7y.251272$4M.250637@fx17.iad>
In reply to#537024
On 12/02/2015 03:53 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 10:01:20 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> How does Doppler Begin a Story?
>>
>>     Once upon a shifted wavelength...
>>
>> --
>>
>> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>> community, and physics-related social issues.
>
> With the color Purple.Think Spielberg.TreBert
>
Gay.

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#537027

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-12-02 15:11 -0600
Message-ID<n3nmpl$huc$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#537004
On 12/2/2015 12:01 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> How does Doppler Begin a Story?
>
>    Once upon a shifted wavelength...
>

  nope, .....shifted frequency...

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#537029

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-12-02 21:29 +0000
Message-ID<me44jc-tgr.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#537027
gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 12/2/2015 12:01 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> How does Doppler Begin a Story?
>>
>>    Once upon a shifted wavelength...
>>
> 
>  nope, .....shifted frequency...

Same thing; your ignorance of electromagnetics is glaring again.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#537032

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-12-02 16:30 -0600
Message-ID<n3nrf3$rpp$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#537029
On 12/2/2015 3:29 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 12/2/2015 12:01 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> How does Doppler Begin a Story?
>>>
>>>     Once upon a shifted wavelength...
>>>
>>
>>   nope, .....shifted frequency...
>
> Same thing; your ignorance of electromagnetics is glaring again.
>
>

for Doppler, you mean magneticelectro, as the H-field always leads 
first, with E-field lagging 90 degrees.

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#537041

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-12-02 23:46 +0000
Message-ID<kfc4jc-5cs.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#537032
gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 12/2/2015 3:29 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/2/2015 12:01 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>> How does Doppler Begin a Story?
>>>>
>>>>     Once upon a shifted wavelength...
>>>>
>>>
>>>   nope, .....shifted frequency...
>>
>> Same thing; your ignorance of electromagnetics is glaring again.
>>
>>
> 
> for Doppler, you mean magneticelectro, as the H-field always leads 
> first, with E-field lagging 90 degrees.

I said electromagnetics and I meant electromagnetics.

Magneticelectro is form of Afro electronic music.

The Doppler effect occurs for all electromagnetic radiation as well
as waves that propagate in a medium, such as sound.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppler_effect


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Jim Pennino

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#537231

Fromgilber34 <fafa@invalid.com>
Date2015-12-03 16:49 -0600
Message-ID<n3qgtv$q8j$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#537041
On 12/2/2015 5:46 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 12/2/2015 3:29 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> On 12/2/2015 12:01 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>>> How does Doppler Begin a Story?
>>>>>
>>>>>      Once upon a shifted wavelength...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    nope, .....shifted frequency...
>>>
>>> Same thing; your ignorance of electromagnetics is glaring again.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> for Doppler, you mean magneticelectro, as the H-field always leads
>> first, with E-field lagging 90 degrees.
>
> I said electromagnetics and I meant electromagnetics.
>
> Magneticelectro is form of Afro electronic music.


they use a lot of electomagnetic devices for their Magneticelectro;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbHFovKYRU0

See? H is leading E.

>
> The Doppler effect occurs for all electromagnetic radiation as well
> as waves that propagate in a medium, such as sound.

Maxwell's equations require two medium dependent constants, to properly 
describe the EM waves, therefore Doppler is a frequency shift in Hz.


>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppler_effect

the problem is frequency as units of Hertz, which everyone knows, and 
wavelength units are 1/Hz, (inches, miles or microns ??)

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#537253

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-12-04 00:26 +0000
Message-ID<t537jc-448.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#537231
gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 12/2/2015 5:46 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/2/2015 3:29 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/2/2015 12:01 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>>>> How does Doppler Begin a Story?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Once upon a shifted wavelength...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    nope, .....shifted frequency...
>>>>
>>>> Same thing; your ignorance of electromagnetics is glaring again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> for Doppler, you mean magneticelectro, as the H-field always leads
>>> first, with E-field lagging 90 degrees.
>>
>> I said electromagnetics and I meant electromagnetics.
>>
>> Magneticelectro is form of Afro electronic music.
> 
> 
> they use a lot of electomagnetic devices for their Magneticelectro;
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbHFovKYRU0
> 
> See? H is leading E.

Red herring to the subject of Doppler.

>> The Doppler effect occurs for all electromagnetic radiation as well
>> as waves that propagate in a medium, such as sound.
> 
> Maxwell's equations require two medium dependent constants, to properly 
> describe the EM waves, therefore Doppler is a frequency shift in Hz.
> 
> 
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppler_effect
> 
> the problem is frequency as units of Hertz, which everyone knows, and 
> wavelength units are 1/Hz, (inches, miles or microns ??)
 
There is no problem for people with more than 2 firing neurons; people
have been using frequency and wavelength interchagably for about a
hundred years now and the meter is the internationally used unit when
referring to a specific wavelength.

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#537256

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-12-04 00:42 +0000
Message-ID<m447jc-p98.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#537231
gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 12/2/2015 5:46 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/2/2015 3:29 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/2/2015 12:01 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>>>> How does Doppler Begin a Story?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Once upon a shifted wavelength...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    nope, .....shifted frequency...
>>>>
>>>> Same thing; your ignorance of electromagnetics is glaring again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> for Doppler, you mean magneticelectro, as the H-field always leads
>>> first, with E-field lagging 90 degrees.
>>
>> I said electromagnetics and I meant electromagnetics.
>>
>> Magneticelectro is form of Afro electronic music.
> 
> 
> they use a lot of electomagnetic devices for their Magneticelectro;
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbHFovKYRU0
> 
> See? H is leading E.
> 
>>
>> The Doppler effect occurs for all electromagnetic radiation as well
>> as waves that propagate in a medium, such as sound.
> 
> Maxwell's equations require two medium dependent constants, to properly 
> describe the EM waves, therefore Doppler is a frequency shift in Hz.
> 
> 
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppler_effect
> 
> the problem is frequency as units of Hertz, which everyone knows, and 
> wavelength units are 1/Hz, (inches, miles or microns ??)
 
 
After reading your recent posts I've come to the realization that
recommending you read the ARRL Handbook for a basic education on
electromagnetics would be far too advanced for you.

Instead start here:

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/radio-spectrum.htm

and here:

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/radio.htm

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#537031

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-02 14:23 -0800
Message-ID<7b55f7b5-fcd0-4e44-934d-9d60e18c1d2f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#537004
On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 10:01:20 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> How does Doppler Begin a Story?
> 
>    Once upon a shifted wavelength...
> 

"A long time ago, very far away, ...."

Contrast with "it was a dark and stormy 
night" or "there was nothing, and then 
there was light."

These are traditional establishments of 
the beginning of story.

Also "the rain came again".

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#537036

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-02 16:47 -0600
Message-ID<pcCdnYI3p9OR6MLLnZ2dnUU7-fOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#537031
On 12/2/15 4:23 PM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> Contrast with "it was a dark and stormy night" or "there was nothing,
> and then there was light."


   Here is a scientific pictorial of that story:
> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap060323.html
> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0603/CMB_Timeline300.jpg




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#537087

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-12-03 03:46 +0000
Message-ID<0hq4jc-oh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#537036
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/2/15 4:23 PM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
>> Contrast with "it was a dark and stormy night" or "there was nothing,
>> and then there was light."
> 
> 
>   Here is a scientific pictorial of that story:
>> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap060323.html
>> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0603/CMB_Timeline300.jpg
 
One hopes the story is not as asinine as the intro. 
 

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Jim Pennino

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#537089

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-02 20:24 -0800
Message-ID<6ba12fcf-c3a9-44fa-9e79-c39227590f93@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#537087
On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 8:01:07 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 12/2/15 4:23 PM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> >> Contrast with "it was a dark and stormy night" or "there was nothing,
> >> and then there was light."
> > 
> > 
> >   Here is a scientific pictorial of that story:
> >> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap060323.html
> >> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0603/CMB_Timeline300.jpg
>  
> One hopes the story is not as asinine as the intro. 
>  
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino

"Once upon a time, there were two ...."

The Null Axiom Theory or Void Axiom Theory, 
an axiomless system of natural deduction, 
also starts this way.

"0"

0 -> 0 <-> ~0

-> ~

If there's a "Theory of Everything", it's 
just the one.

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