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  Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 08:25 -0600
    Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 06:43 -0800
      Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 08:54 -0600
        Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 07:05 -0800
          Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 09:23 -0600
            Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 07:28 -0800
              Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-05 19:16 +0000
          Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-03-05 12:50 -0800
            Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 14:37 -0800
              Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 17:01 -0600
                Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 15:04 -0800
                  Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 17:22 -0600
                    Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 15:45 -0800
                      Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 18:19 -0600
                        Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 17:36 -0800
                          Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 19:43 -0600
                            Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 17:57 -0800
                              Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 20:02 -0600
              Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-05 23:04 +0000
      Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 16:10 +0100
        Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 07:16 -0800
      Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-05 19:14 +0000
        Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 11:30 -0800
          Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-05 19:38 +0000
            Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 11:50 -0800
              Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-05 22:13 +0000
          Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 12:16 -0800
            Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 14:33 -0800
              Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-05 23:05 +0000
              Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 18:52 -0800
      HOH noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 16:54 -0800
      Re: Large Plasma Tubes Confirmed to Exist *Above* The Earth's Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 19:04 -0600

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#559564

On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 7:10:17 AM UTC-8, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 05/03/2016 v 15:43 James McGinn napsal(a):
> > Good find, Sam.
> > 
> > Our atmosphere is a slight plasma.  Likewise, our atmosphere is
> > charged by the solar wind.  This is the energy that causes
> > evaporation, which is a much lower energy process than boiling
> 
> Directly refuted by *tons* of experimental evidence.

Really.  Like what?


> you would be aware of, if you had ever bothered to learn the basics.
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++
> E.g:
> ENTHALPY OF VAPORIZATION OF WATER
> The enthalpy (heat) of vaporization of water is tabulated as a function
> of temperature on the IPTS-68 scale.

Undoubtedly, you haven't the slightest idea what enthalpy is. 


> REFERENCE
> Marsh, K. N., Ed., Recommended Reference Materials for the Realization
> of Physicochemical Properties, Blackwell, Oxford, 1987.
> 
> t ∆ vap H
> ° C kJ/mol
> 0 45.054
> 25 43.990
> 40 43.350
> 60 42.482
> 80 41.585
> 100 40.657
> 120 39.684
> 140 38.643
> 160 37.518
> 180 36.304
> 200 34.962
> 220 33.468
> 240 31.809
> 260 29.930
> 280 27.795
> 300 25.300
> 320 22.297
> 340 18.502
> 360 12.966
> 374 2.066
> 
> http://www2.bren.ucsb.edu/~dturney/WebResources_13/WaterSteamIceProperties/EnthalpyOfVaporizationH2O.pdf
> 
> -- 
> Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )
> 
> Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

So what is your point?  

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#559616

James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good find, Sam.
> 
> Our atmosphere is a slight plasma.

Nope, if it were radio wouldn't work.

--
Jim Pennino

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#559623

On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 11:16:07 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Good find, Sam.
> > 
> > Our atmosphere is a slight plasma.
> 
> Nope, if it were radio wouldn't work.

How so?

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#559638

James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 11:16:07 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Good find, Sam.
>> > 
>> > Our atmosphere is a slight plasma.
>> 
>> Nope, if it were radio wouldn't work.
> 
> How so?

Short answer: wouldn't propagate

Long answer: read a physics book.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#559639

On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> Short answer: wouldn't propagate
> 
> Long answer: read a physics book.

So, you dont' know.  You are just assuming from what you've read.  Right?

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#559665

James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> Short answer: wouldn't propagate
>> 
>> Long answer: read a physics book.
> 
> So, you dont' know.  You are just assuming from what you've read.  Right?

Nope, read it again.

Short answer: wouldn't propagate

For details consult a physics text.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#559641

On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 11:30:28 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 11:16:07 AM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Good find, Sam.
> > > 
> > > Our atmosphere is a slight plasma.
> > 
> > Nope, if it were radio wouldn't work.

  Slight correction; it wouldn't work the way it does.

> How so?

  Plasmas are very good electrical conductors, meaning they have very low electrical impedance. The impedance of free air is easily measured to be slightly less than 377 ohms.

  Radio antennas are impedance transformers; they provide a shift in impedance from whatever the internal circuit impedance is (50 ohms is common) to the free air value in order for the signal to get from the circuit through the antenna out into the air. If air were a plasma, antennas as we use them would not work. The signal would be reflected back into the radio transmitter circuitry because the plasma would resemble a dead short.

  Q. E. D.


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#559670

On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 12:16:59 PM UTC-8, nu...@bid.nes wrote:

>   Radio antennas are impedance transformers; they provide a shift in impedance from whatever the internal circuit impedance is (50 ohms is common) to the free air value in order for the signal to get from the circuit through the antenna out into the air. If air were a plasma, antennas as we use them would not work. The signal would be reflected back into the radio transmitter circuitry because the plasma would resemble a dead short.

So, you have a theory, but you don't have proof, right?

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#559687

Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> wrote:

> So, you have a theory, but you don't have proof, right?

Consult a physics book for proof.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#559720

On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 2:33:59 PM UTC-8, Solving Tornadoes wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 12:16:59 PM UTC-8, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> 
> >   Radio antennas are impedance transformers; they provide a shift in
> > impedance from whatever the internal circuit impedance is (50 ohms is
> > common) to the free air value in order for the signal to get from the
> > circuit through the antenna out into the air. If air were a plasma, antennas
> > as we use them would not work. The signal would be reflected back into the
> > radio transmitter circuitry because the plasma would resemble a dead short.
> 
> So, you have a theory, but you don't have proof, right?

  Wrong, I have experimental evidence.

  Have you ever built and operated a radio?

  Have you ever done *any* experimental work to test your claims?


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#559695 — HOH

quelle absurdite;
droplets weigh more than air, although
water vapor is lighter than air; how simpler can it be

> lower energy process than boiling but one that, strangely, brings up droplets of H2O, it doesn't produce gaseous H2O.
> 
> And this all sets the stage for the plasma tubes that are the jet streams and tornadoes.
> 
> 
> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2015GL063699/full
> 
> Real-time imaging of density ducts between the plasmasphere and ionosphere
> First published: 25 May 2015
> 
> Abstract
> 
> Ionization of the Earth's atmosphere by sunlight forms a complex, multilayered plasma environment within the Earth's magnetosphere, the innermost layers being the ionosphere and plasmasphere. The plasmasphere is believed to be embedded with cylindrical density structures (ducts) aligned along the Earth's magnetic field, but direct evidence for these remains scarce. Here we report the first direct wide-angle observation of an extensive array of field-aligned ducts bridging the upper ionosphere and inner plasmasphere, using a novel ground-based imaging technique. We establish their heights and motions by feature tracking and parallax analysis. The structures are strikingly organized, appearing as regularly spaced, alternating tubes of overdensities and underdensities strongly aligned with the Earth's magnetic field. These findings represent the first direct visual evidence for the existence of such structures.

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#559699

On 3/5/16 8:43 AM, James McGinn wrote:
> Our atmosphere is a slight plasma.


   Observations shows that there is no plasma in the troposphere. I take
   it this is a surprise to you, James. You should not be surprised as
   temperatures required for plasma are 10,000 degrees and higher.



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