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| First post | 2016-10-10 21:29 -0400 |
| Last post | 2016-10-18 11:15 -0400 |
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A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-10-10 21:29 -0400
A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 18:49 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-11 08:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-10-11 14:57 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 10:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-11 18:54 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-10-11 19:05 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 12:37 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2016-10-11 22:56 +0300
the static eventuality noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 09:55 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 10:13 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-11 18:56 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 12:44 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-11 21:46 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-11 19:46 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:18 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 05:19 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 12:59 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-11 19:10 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-11 19:19 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-11 20:51 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-11 20:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:58 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 05:23 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:09 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:42 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:03 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 19:40 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 01:20 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 21:26 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:15 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 19:05 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:13 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 13:36 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 11:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 12:40 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-16 09:21 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-16 19:32 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:53 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:36 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 18:54 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:49 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:10 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:07 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:39 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-16 22:13 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-16 19:27 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 17:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:46 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 08:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-18 17:18 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 21:44 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 07:14 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 08:23 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:10 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 23:48 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:09 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 18:03 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:27 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:14 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 17:52 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:28 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:10 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:44 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-16 09:25 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 18:29 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 17:17 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 20:00 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 05:19 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 05:51 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 14:03 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 23:40 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 07:30 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 10:01 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 17:45 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 20:49 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 05:28 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:48 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 23:45 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:48 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 10:07 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 07:15 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-19 09:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 16:29 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-19 19:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-19 19:27 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 18:57 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:08 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 12:15 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 02:37 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 21:02 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 05:23 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:11 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:17 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 23:54 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:52 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 13:07 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:50 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:16 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:05 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 19:43 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 01:22 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 19:20 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 11:27 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:47 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:48 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-12 01:21 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:53 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-12 19:18 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 16:02 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:06 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 06:26 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 00:01 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:14 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 18:07 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:35 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 23:54 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 18:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 07:12 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 06:50 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 17:00 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 23:47 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 07:31 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 12:16 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-10-17 13:40 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:24 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:58 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 02:36 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 21:01 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:56 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 14:12 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:49 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:06 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 19:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 21:08 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 11:48 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:42 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-12 00:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:59 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 07:18 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 14:14 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:52 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:13 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 20:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 21:18 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 08:05 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-13 09:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 00:06 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-13 21:26 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 02:51 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:01 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 07:25 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 07:29 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 10:20 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:30 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 13:48 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 14:09 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 18:57 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:08 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:57 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:16 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:11 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:53 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:04 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:02 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:18 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:23 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 15:00 -0500
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-14 18:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ntrr8l$oa9$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #600872 |
On 10/14/2016 1:36 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > >> On 10/13/2016 1:36 PM, Serigo wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> what else are you going to use ? do you have any ideas ? >>>>> >>>>> N2 is the only practical one. >>>>> >>>>> and you have to take a lot of it, >>>>> all in *high pressure heavy* tanks. >>>>> >>>>> do you have an alternate inert gas in mind ? >>>> >>>> Yes, already tested. >>>> >>>> Actually, look at the Skylab atmosphere. It used a a 74-percent oxygen >>>> and 26-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at a mere 5 psi instead of the >>>> "normal" 14.7 psi, which is earth sea level pressure. >>>> http://history.nasa.gov/SP-400/ch2.htm >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>> >>> Great, that problem solved. >> >> ISS uses 14.7psi about 70% O2 >> > > Then they're all dead, since that would give a partial pressure of > oxygen in excess of 9 psi. > > Hint: ISS air is 21% oxygen. The remainder is nitrogen. > the link I found said different, but there is so much copying going on without verification across the internet websites, it is hard to find the real information. looks like N2 is a problem as well remmember the Apollo astronoughts were at 100% O2 at 16.7 psi which causes Teflon to burst into flames it was to be reduced to 5 psi the flight pressure When designing the Mercury spacecraft, NASA had considered using a nitrogen/oxygen mixture to reduce the fire risk near launch, but rejected it based on two considerations. First, nitrogen used with the in-flight pressure reduction carried the clear risk of decompression sickness (known as "the bends"). But the decision to eliminate the use of any gas but oxygen was crystalized when a serious accident occurred on April 21, 1960, in which McDonnell Aircraft test pilot G.B. North passed out and was seriously injured when testing a Mercury cabin / spacesuit atmosphere system in a vacuum chamber. The problem was found to be nitrogen-rich (oxygen-poor) air leaking from the cabin into his spacesuit feed.[35] North American Aviation had suggested using an oxygen/nitrogen mixture for Apollo, but NASA overruled this. The pure oxygen design was judged to be safer, less complicated, and lighter in weight.[36] In his monograph Project Apollo: The Tough Decisions, Deputy Administrator Seamans wrote that NASA's single worst mistake in engineering judgment was not to run a fire test on the Command Module before the plugs-out test.[37] In the first episode of the 2009 BBC documentary series NASA: Triumph and Tragedy, Jim McDivitt said that NASA had no idea how a 100% oxygen atmosphere would influence burning.[38] Similar remarks by other astronauts were expressed in the 2007 documentary film In the Shadow of the Moon.[3
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-15 03:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <17240cpo7hs0u5udbhacqk74umk6gg2ag9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600917 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 10/14/2016 1:36 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/13/2016 1:36 PM, Serigo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what else are you going to use ? do you have any ideas ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> N2 is the only practical one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and you have to take a lot of it,
>
>>>>>> all in *high pressure heavy* tanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> do you have an alternate inert gas in mind ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, already tested.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, look at the Skylab atmosphere. It used a a 74-percent oxygen
>>>>> and 26-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at a mere 5 psi instead of the
>>>>> "normal" 14.7 psi, which is earth sea level pressure.
>
>>>>> http://history.nasa.gov/SP-400/ch2.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Great, that problem solved.
>>>
>>> ISS uses 14.7psi about 70% O2
>>>
>>
>> Then they're all dead, since that would give a partial pressure of
>> oxygen in excess of 9 psi.
>>
>> Hint: ISS air is 21% oxygen. The remainder is nitrogen.
>>
>
>the link I found said different,
>
Either the link you found is preposterously wrong or you can't read.
It should have been obvious to you that it was wrong, since at that
partial pressure of oxygen people would start showing symptoms in a
day or so.
>
>but there is so much copying going on without verification across the
>internet websites, it is hard to find the real information.
>
No, it's not hard to find at all.
>
>looks like N2 is a problem as well
>
What kind of 'problem' and did you get it off the same sort of website
you got the ISS atmosphere composition from.
<snip things I've known for decades>
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-15 10:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nttgtr$qdp$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #600977 |
On 10/15/2016 5:49 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > >> On 10/14/2016 1:36 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hint: ISS air is 21% oxygen. The remainder is nitrogen. >>> >> >> the link I found said different, >> > > Either the link you found is preposterously wrong from NASA website, now admit you are wrong. >> looks like N2 is a problem as well >> > > What kind of 'problem' and did you get it off the same sort of website > you got the ISS atmosphere composition from. NASA, cant you find simple information on the internet ? Why do you keep making stuff up ?? > > <snip things I've known for decades> too bad you've known all the WRONG stuff.
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-15 21:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <q4v50cl1mq34v5hphr6t5f5qj7t371mc72@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600993 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 10/15/2016 5:49 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/14/2016 1:36 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>
>>>>
>>>> Hint: ISS air is 21% oxygen. The remainder is nitrogen.
>>>>
>>>
>>> the link I found said different,
>>>
>>
>> Either the link you found is preposterously wrong
>>
>
>from NASA website, now admit you are wrong.
>
Cite, you lying troll?
>
>>>
>>> looks like N2 is a problem as well
>>>
>>
>> What kind of 'problem' and did you get it off the same sort of website
>> you got the ISS atmosphere composition from.
>>
>
>NASA, cant you find simple information on the internet ? Why do you
>keep making stuff up ??
>
Cite, you lying troll? I note you avoid answering the question.
>>
>> <snip things I've known for decades>
>>
>
>too bad you've known all the WRONG stuff.
>
It was the stuff YOU posted. Are you saying everything you posted was
wrong, then?
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-16 14:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nu0l24$18de$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #601060 |
On 10/15/2016 11:07 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > >> On 10/15/2016 5:49 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 10/14/2016 1:36 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> Hint: ISS air is 21% oxygen. The remainder is nitrogen. >>>>> >>>> >>>> the link I found said different, >>>> >>> >>> Either the link you found is preposterously wrong >>> >> >>from NASA website, now admit you are wrong. >> > > Cite, Actually, look at the Skylab atmosphere. It used a a 84-percent oxygen and 16-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at a mere 3 psi instead of the "normal" 14.7 psi, which is earth sea level pressure. https://piv.pivpiv.dk/ > >> >>>> >>>> looks like N2 is a problem as well >>>> >>> >>> What kind of 'problem' and did you get it off the same sort of website >>> you got the ISS atmosphere composition from. >>> >> >> NASA, cant you find simple information on the internet ? Why do you >> keep making stuff up ?? >> > > re-Cite, Actually, now look at the ISS atmosphere. It used a a 54-percent oxygen, 36-percent nitrogen and 10% CO2 breathing mixture at a 25 psi instead of the "normal" 14.7 psi, which is earth sea level pressure. The reason for over pressure is to counteract the small punctures by metorites in orbit. http://tinyurl.com/zm2xcen > > >>> >>> <snip things I've known for decades> >>> >> >> too bad you've known all the WRONG stuff. >> > > It was the stuff I posted. Are you saying everything I posted was > wrong, then? > seems that you are just wrong, I dont know why at all.
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
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| Date | 2016-10-16 22:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nu0u1r$8gt$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de> |
| In reply to | #601118 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> schrieb: > Actually, now look at the ISS atmosphere. It used a a 54-percent > oxygen, 36-percent nitrogen and 10% CO2 breathing mixture at a 25 psi This is not possible. CO2 is toxic above 3%. > http://tinyurl.com/zm2xcen I don't follow short URLs - you don't know where they've been.
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| From | "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-16 19:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <daCdnURcq6R7kZnFnZ2dnUU7-U3NnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #601118 |
"Serigo" wrote in message news:nu0l24$18de$1@gioia.aioe.org... > >On 10/15/2016 11:07 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >> >>> On 10/15/2016 5:49 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 10/14/2016 1:36 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hint: ISS air is 21% oxygen. The remainder is nitrogen. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> the link I found said different, >>>>> >>>> >>>> Either the link you found is preposterously wrong >>>> >>> >>>from NASA website, now admit you are wrong. >>> >> >> Cite, > > >Actually, look at the Skylab atmosphere. It used a a 84-percent oxygen >and 16-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at a mere 3 psi instead of the >"normal" 14.7 psi, which is earth sea level pressure. Yes, Skylab was designed around the Apollo pressure. That has nothing to do with what's here. > >https://piv.pivpiv.dk/ > > >> >>> >>>>> >>>>> looks like N2 is a problem as well >>>>> >>>> >>>> What kind of 'problem' and did you get it off the same sort of website >>>> you got the ISS atmosphere composition from. >>>> >>> >>> NASA, cant you find simple information on the internet ? Why do you >>> keep making stuff up ?? >>> >> >> re-Cite, > > >Actually, now look at the ISS atmosphere. It used a a 54-percent oxygen, >36-percent nitrogen and 10% CO2 breathing mixture at a 25 psi instead of >the "normal" 14.7 psi, which is earth sea level pressure. The reason for >over pressure is to counteract the small punctures by metorites in orbit. Again, as Thomas said, I'm not following a tiny URL, but I can tell you that's categorically wrong. Hell, I posted a link from a guy who provided access to real time data (at the time he posted it). And no, it's surely not that high because they're trying to replicate Earth's atmosphere at sea level because that's what they use as a control. And that high of O2 is a huge fire risk, for no benefit. And that high of CO2 would be deadly. > >http://tinyurl.com/zm2xcen > >> >> >>>> >>>> <snip things I've known for decades> >>>> >>> >>> too bad you've known all the WRONG stuff. >>> >> >> It was the stuff I posted. Are you saying everything I posted was >> wrong, then? >> > >seems that you are just wrong, I dont know why at all. > No, you're wrong. You continue to be wrong. -- Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/ CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-16 17:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <tb680ch4t8jk6bbu51f8f4h1uv9jg9a0ni@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #601118 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
A demonstration of what an ignorant troll he is.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-18 08:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.326fe3c9701d090298984a@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #601118 |
In article <nu0l24$18de$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > On 10/15/2016 11:07 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > > Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > > > >> On 10/15/2016 5:49 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > >>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 10/14/2016 1:36 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > >>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >>>>> Hint: ISS air is 21% oxygen. The remainder is nitrogen. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> the link I found said different, > >>>> > >>> > >>> Either the link you found is preposterously wrong > >>> > >> > >>from NASA website, now admit you are wrong. > >> > > > > Cite, > > > Actually, look at the Skylab atmosphere. It used a a 84-percent oxygen > and 16-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at a mere 3 psi instead of the > "normal" 14.7 psi, which is earth sea level pressure. > 74-percent oxygen and 26-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at 5 pounds per square inch http://history.nasa.gov/SP-400/ch2.htm Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-18 08:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nu5913$9v5$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #601451 |
On 10/18/2016 7:46 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: >> >> Actually, look at the Skylab atmosphere. It used a a 84-percent oxygen >> and 16-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at a mere 3 psi instead of the >> "normal" 14.7 psi, which is earth sea level pressure. >> > > 74-percent oxygen and 26-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at 5 pounds > per square inch > http://history.nasa.gov/SP-400/ch2.htm > > Jeff > forget that stuff, how are they going to get all the furnature up there ? like the chairs, beds, tables, desks, monitors, computers, sterios, stoves ? you cant use a bucket for all that, and there is no IKIA nearby.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-18 17:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <s32idd-kem.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #601461 |
In sci.physics Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > On 10/18/2016 7:46 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: > >>> >>> Actually, look at the Skylab atmosphere. It used a a 84-percent oxygen >>> and 16-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at a mere 3 psi instead of the >>> "normal" 14.7 psi, which is earth sea level pressure. >>> >> >> 74-percent oxygen and 26-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at 5 pounds >> per square inch >> http://history.nasa.gov/SP-400/ch2.htm >> >> Jeff >> > > forget that stuff, > > how are they going to get all the furnature up there ? like the chairs, > beds, tables, desks, monitors, computers, sterios, stoves ? > > you cant use a bucket for all that, and there is no IKIA nearby. You are losing it and getting silly. Of course you can haul all the crap to Mars. If it is too big or too heavy to go as one piece you send it in pieces. Most preassembled furniture is shipped to the stores in pieces and assembled in the store. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-18 21:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nu6mmo$hnm$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #601488 |
On 10/18/2016 12:18 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >> On 10/18/2016 7:46 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: >> >>>> Actually, look at the Skylab atmosphere. It used a a 84-percent oxygen >>>> and 16-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at a mere 3 psi instead of the >>>> "normal" 14.7 psi, which is earth sea level pressure. >>>> >>> >>> 74-percent oxygen and 26-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at 5 pounds >>> per square inch >>> http://history.nasa.gov/SP-400/ch2.htm >>> >>> Jeff >> >> forget that stuff, >> >> how are they going to get all the furnature up there ? like the chairs, >> beds, tables, desks, monitors, computers, sterios, stoves ? >> >> you cant use a bucket for all that, and there is no IKIA nearby. > > You are losing it and getting silly. yep, I have been doing increadably boring spreadsheets the past week. [rather build a steel plant on Mars so they can house Geologists... ] > > Of course you can haul all the crap to Mars. > > If it is too big or too heavy to go as one piece you send it in pieces. > > Most preassembled furniture is shipped to the stores in pieces and > assembled in the store. IKEA has that down to an art, light weight furnature, fits fine in shipping containers. On Mars besides furnature, they could be turned into charcoal to coke to make the steel... (drat I'm flaming out again... time to go recharge) a photo of a few IKEA chairs and table with a drink + umbrella on Mars with earth riseing in the background, great advertizing.
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-19 07:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.32711f858bf47e3989850@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #601461 |
In article <nu5913$9v5$2@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > On 10/18/2016 7:46 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: > > >> > >> Actually, look at the Skylab atmosphere. It used a a 84-percent oxygen > >> and 16-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at a mere 3 psi instead of the > >> "normal" 14.7 psi, which is earth sea level pressure. > >> > > > > 74-percent oxygen and 26-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at 5 pounds > > per square inch > > http://history.nasa.gov/SP-400/ch2.htm > > forget that stuff, > > how are they going to get all the furnature up there ? like the chairs, > beds, tables, desks, monitors, computers, sterios, stoves ? > > you cant use a bucket for all that, and there is no IKIA nearby. Dumbass. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-18 08:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <s9fc0clb5taudqekb3tpbcu5dllahkhlpm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #601451 |
Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote:
>In article <nu0l24$18de$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
>>
>> On 10/15/2016 11:07 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> > Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 10/15/2016 5:49 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> >>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 10/14/2016 1:36 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> >>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hint: ISS air is 21% oxygen. The remainder is nitrogen.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> the link I found said different,
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Either the link you found is preposterously wrong
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>from NASA website, now admit you are wrong.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Cite,
>>
>>
>> Actually, look at the Skylab atmosphere. It used a a 84-percent oxygen
>> and 16-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at a mere 3 psi instead of the
>> "normal" 14.7 psi, which is earth sea level pressure.
>>
>
>74-percent oxygen and 26-percent nitrogen breathing mixture at 5 pounds
>per square inch
>http://history.nasa.gov/SP-400/ch2.htm
>
Which gives around 3.7 psi partial pressure of oxygen. Perfectly
fine. When you look at his claim for ISS atmosphere, you get around a
9 psi partial pressure of oxygen, which is very, very bad for you and
will probably kill you in a couple of days. That alone should tell
him he's wrong, yet he will still argue for it.
--
"Rule Number One for Slayers - Don't die."
-- Buffy, the Vampire Slayer
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-13 08:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.326943cb93e228e989835@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #600547 |
In article <4vt0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com says... > > In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > > <snip> > > > Really? You think we breath NITROGEN? Uh, no. We just use the > > oxygen. > > We use the oxygen but what we breath is 78% nitrogen. > > Breathing pure oxygen is generally bad for humans. > > http://www.sciencefocus.com/qa/why-does-breathing-pure-oxygen-kill-you But there is "fixed" nitrogen on Mars. Could be useful as fertilizer. If not then the nitrogen would need to be extracted in other ways (i.e. chemistry). NASA's Curiosity Rover Finds Biologically Useful Nitrogen on Mars http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/mars-nitrogen Chemistry will solve many of these problems. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-13 23:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <j2j5dd-cab.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #600685 |
In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: > In article <4vt0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > says... >> >> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >> > Really? You think we breath NITROGEN? Uh, no. We just use the >> > oxygen. >> >> We use the oxygen but what we breath is 78% nitrogen. >> >> Breathing pure oxygen is generally bad for humans. >> >> http://www.sciencefocus.com/qa/why-does-breathing-pure-oxygen-kill-you > > But there is "fixed" nitrogen on Mars. Could be useful as fertilizer. > If not then the nitrogen would need to be extracted in other ways (i.e. > chemistry). > > NASA's Curiosity Rover Finds Biologically Useful Nitrogen on Mars > http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/mars-nitrogen > > Chemistry will solve many of these problems. > > Jeff Doing chemistry takes lots of energy, particularly when you have to synthesize just about everything complex. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-14 06:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.326a78e8e46a288998983d@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #600793 |
In article <j2j5dd-cab.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com says... > > In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: > > In article <4vt0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > > says... > >> > >> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> <snip> > >> > >> > Really? You think we breath NITROGEN? Uh, no. We just use the > >> > oxygen. > >> > >> We use the oxygen but what we breath is 78% nitrogen. > >> > >> Breathing pure oxygen is generally bad for humans. > >> > >> http://www.sciencefocus.com/qa/why-does-breathing-pure-oxygen-kill-you > > > > But there is "fixed" nitrogen on Mars. Could be useful as fertilizer. > > If not then the nitrogen would need to be extracted in other ways (i.e. > > chemistry). > > > > NASA's Curiosity Rover Finds Biologically Useful Nitrogen on Mars > > http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/mars-nitrogen > > > > Chemistry will solve many of these problems. > > Doing chemistry takes lots of energy, particularly when you have to > synthesize just about everything complex. Some Mars reference missions include a nuclear reactor so that the return ship can produce liquid methane and LOX from the CO2 atmosphere and H2 brought on the ship. If we end up going that route, just keep leaving nuclear reactors on Mars brought from earth on the transport ships. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-14 18:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <a8j7dd-voh.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #600825 |
In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: > In article <j2j5dd-cab.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > says... >> >> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: >> > In article <4vt0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >> > says... >> >> >> >> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> <snip> >> >> >> >> > Really? You think we breath NITROGEN? Uh, no. We just use the >> >> > oxygen. >> >> >> >> We use the oxygen but what we breath is 78% nitrogen. >> >> >> >> Breathing pure oxygen is generally bad for humans. >> >> >> >> http://www.sciencefocus.com/qa/why-does-breathing-pure-oxygen-kill-you >> > >> > But there is "fixed" nitrogen on Mars. Could be useful as fertilizer. >> > If not then the nitrogen would need to be extracted in other ways (i.e. >> > chemistry). >> > >> > NASA's Curiosity Rover Finds Biologically Useful Nitrogen on Mars >> > http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/mars-nitrogen >> > >> > Chemistry will solve many of these problems. >> >> Doing chemistry takes lots of energy, particularly when you have to >> synthesize just about everything complex. > > Some Mars reference missions include a nuclear reactor so that the > return ship can produce liquid methane and LOX from the CO2 atmosphere > and H2 brought on the ship. If we end up going that route, just keep > leaving nuclear reactors on Mars brought from earth on the transport > ships. > > Jeff Yes, just keep sending reactors until you have enough power, however that is not going to be cheap. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-15 02:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bet30cl21ccvr7nfi1vhpl4eso1767t9fe@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600867 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote:
>> In article <j2j5dd-cab.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote:
>>> > In article <4vt0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
>>> > says...
>>> >>
>>> >> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> <snip>
>>> >>
>>> >> > Really? You think we breath NITROGEN? Uh, no. We just use the
>>> >> > oxygen.
>>> >>
>>> >> We use the oxygen but what we breath is 78% nitrogen.
>>> >>
>>> >> Breathing pure oxygen is generally bad for humans.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.sciencefocus.com/qa/why-does-breathing-pure-oxygen-kill-you
>>> >
>>> > But there is "fixed" nitrogen on Mars. Could be useful as fertilizer.
>>> > If not then the nitrogen would need to be extracted in other ways (i.e.
>>> > chemistry).
>>> >
>>> > NASA's Curiosity Rover Finds Biologically Useful Nitrogen on Mars
>>> > http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/mars-nitrogen
>>> >
>>> > Chemistry will solve many of these problems.
>>>
>>> Doing chemistry takes lots of energy, particularly when you have to
>>> synthesize just about everything complex.
>>
>> Some Mars reference missions include a nuclear reactor so that the
>> return ship can produce liquid methane and LOX from the CO2 atmosphere
>> and H2 brought on the ship. If we end up going that route, just keep
>> leaving nuclear reactors on Mars brought from earth on the transport
>> ships.
>>
>
>Yes, just keep sending reactors until you have enough power, however
>that is not going to be cheap.
>
I think it's funny that someone had to suggest this before you thought
of it and moved from 'impossible' to 'expensive'. I think it's even
funnier that I said it to you and you stupidly have your head up your
ass to keep from seeing it.
You only need enough reactors to get you started producing solar cells
from in situ resources. And it's no more 'expensive' than shipping
anything else to Mars.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-15 10:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ntth5g$qss$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #600964 |
On 10/15/2016 4:27 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> Yes, just keep sending reactors until you have enough power, however
>> that is not going to be cheap.
>>
> I think it's funny that someone had to suggest this before you thought
> of it and moved from 'impossible' to 'expensive'. I think it's even
> funnier that you said it to me and I stupidly have your head up my
> ass to keep from seeing it.
no one cares what you think, troll.
>
> You only need enough reactors to get you started producing solar cells
> from in situ resources. And it's no more 'expensive' than shipping
> anything else to Mars.
bullshit.
you gloss over the required complexity so fast, you must be stoned as
shit. or a lying shit.
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