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Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators

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First post2016-06-27 23:15 -0500
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  Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-27 23:15 -0500
    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-28 14:12 -0400
      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-28 13:58 -0700
        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-06-28 19:42 -0400
          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 01:14 -0500
            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-28 23:45 -0700
          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 10:31 -0700
      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-29 14:48 -0400
    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-28 18:23 +0000
    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 14:15 -0500
      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-30 18:13 -0400
        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 20:40 -0500
          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 01:50 +0000
            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 21:20 -0500
              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 05:57 +0000
                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 11:22 -0500
                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 16:34 +0000
                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:19 -0500
                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 17:39 +0000
                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 13:02 -0500
                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 18:58 +0000
                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:23 -0500
                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:38 +0000
                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:10 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:32 +0000
                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 15:54 -0500
                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:11 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 17:33 -0500
                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:05 -0500
                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 09:18 -0500
                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:10 -0500
                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:25 -0500
                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 17:44 +0000
                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:57 -0500
                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:03 +0000
                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:33 -0500
                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 14:41 -0500
                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:55 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:15 +0000
                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:19 -0500
                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:33 +0000
                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:02 -0500
                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 21:19 +0000
                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:47 -0500
                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:42 +0000
                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:11 -0500
                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:26 +0000
                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 19:41 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:04 +0000
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:27 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:35 +0000
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 09:16 -0500
                                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:41 +0000
                                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:52 -0500
                                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:38 +0000
                                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 20:12 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 15:37 -0500
                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:54 -0500
                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 16:03 -0500
                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:34 -0500
                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:03 +0000
                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 17:23 -0500
                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:46 +0000
                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:19 -0500
                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:27 +0000
                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 19:43 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:05 +0000
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:32 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 09:23 -0500
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:08 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 11:53 -0500
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 12:26 -0500
                                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:43 +0000
                                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 13:45 -0500
                                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:49 -0500
                                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 22:57 -0500
                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 17:25 -0500
                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:01 -0500
                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:32 +0000
                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:03 -0500
                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:39 +0000
                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 09:35 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:54 +0000
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:03 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:43 +0000
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 19:58 -0500
                                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 01:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 23:20 -0500
                                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 06:00 +0000
                                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-03 09:45 -0500
                                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 17:04 +0000
                                              Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:44 -0500
                                                Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die; sick or not, Swiss or not. ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 21:38 -0500
                                              Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-02 19:00 -0400
                                                Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 23:24 +0000
                                                Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 16:36 -0700
                                                  Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-02 19:59 -0400
                                                    Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 17:06 -0700
                                                    Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-07-02 21:08 -0600
                                                      Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 20:32 -0700
                                              Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-07-03 14:58 -0500
                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:55 +0000
                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:16 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:37 +0000
                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:59 -0500
                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 21:21 +0000
                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:45 -0500
                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:12 +0000
                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 17:36 -0500
                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:38 +0000
                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:16 -0500
                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:41 +0000
                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:05 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:55 +0000
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:05 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 14:46 -0700
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 17:07 -0500
                                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-03 00:05 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:44 +0000
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 20:05 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 14:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:41 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-03 00:16 -0500
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-03 10:33 -0500

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#587556

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-01 22:03 +0000
Message-ID<cv5j4d-a7a.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587543
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

<snip>

> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
> enough morphine to do the job. 

Robin Williams wasn't in pain, he had a brain disease that causees
hallucinations and other debilitating neurological symptoms, including
depression, you babbling idiot.


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#587559

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 17:23 -0500
Message-ID<1oszet1gty9r3$.1usifb0oqwola$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587556
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:03:56 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
>> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
>> enough morphine to do the job. 
> 
> Robin Williams wasn't in pain, he had a brain disease that causees
> hallucinations and other debilitating neurological symptoms, including
> depression, you babbling idiot.
> 

For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
choosing asphyxiation. Curare would've been ideal.
It's just a shame that he had to use a belt adding
unnecessary anguish and pain to the process. If
morphine would work better he would've used morphine. 

I have a feeling curare meds aren't readily available
because it is also ideal suicide pill. This doesn't
mean the drug as a useful way to alleviate spasm is a
bad drug. As I said before, those who want to kill
themselves should kill themselves. Society should help
them kill themselves. Otherwise some among them go
kill others to make it easier to kill themselves. 

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#587567

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-01 22:46 +0000
Message-ID<ee8j4d-iga.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587559
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:03:56 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>>> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
>>> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
>>> enough morphine to do the job. 
>> 
>> Robin Williams wasn't in pain, he had a brain disease that causees
>> hallucinations and other debilitating neurological symptoms, including
>> depression, you babbling idiot.
>> 
> 
> For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
> an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
> choosing asphyxiation.

What part of he had a brain disease that causees hallucinations and
other debilitating neurological symptoms, including depression did you
not understand, idiot?

<snip>

> I have a feeling curare meds aren't readily available
> because it is also ideal suicide pill.

If you had read any of the references you would know taking curare
orally has no effect, idiot.

<snip babble>


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#587575

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 18:19 -0500
Message-ID<yqxovwnhr0e2$.leu9mpefp02i$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587567
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:46:06 -0000, 
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:03:56 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> <snip>
>>> 
>>>> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
>>>> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
>>>> enough morphine to do the job. 
>>> 
>>> Robin Williams wasn't in pain, he had a brain disease that causees
>>> hallucinations and other debilitating neurological symptoms, including
>>> depression, you babbling idiot.
>>> 
>> 
>> For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
>> an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
>> choosing asphyxiation.
> 
> What part of he had a brain disease that causees hallucinations and
> other debilitating neurological symptoms, including depression did you
> not understand, idiot?
> 

I doubt he killed himself in a hallucination episode. 
He had lots of reasons to do what he did. He was an 
above average intelligent man right before he died. 


> <snip>
> 
>> I have a feeling curare meds aren't readily available
>> because it is also ideal suicide pill.
> 
> If you had read any of the references you would know taking curare
> orally has no effect, idiot.
> 

When I wrote that I knew you'd mention this. Suicide 
pill was a "so to speak" phrase. 

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#587584

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 00:27 +0000
Message-ID<9cej4d-04b.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587575
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:46:06 -0000, 
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:03:56 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> <snip>
>>>> 
>>>>> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
>>>>> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
>>>>> enough morphine to do the job. 
>>>> 
>>>> Robin Williams wasn't in pain, he had a brain disease that causees
>>>> hallucinations and other debilitating neurological symptoms, including
>>>> depression, you babbling idiot.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
>>> an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
>>> choosing asphyxiation.
>> 
>> What part of he had a brain disease that causees hallucinations and
>> other debilitating neurological symptoms, including depression did you
>> not understand, idiot?
>> 
> 
> I doubt he killed himself in a hallucination episode. 

Is that your learned medical diagnosis of someone you have never met?


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#587588

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 19:43 -0500
Message-ID<18yk3vqld3t5n.jshtdm7sln5t.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587584
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:27:21 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:46:06 -0000, 
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:03:56 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
>>>>>> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
>>>>>> enough morphine to do the job. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Robin Williams wasn't in pain, he had a brain disease that causees
>>>>> hallucinations and other debilitating neurological symptoms, including
>>>>> depression, you babbling idiot.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
>>>> an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
>>>> choosing asphyxiation.
>>> 
>>> What part of he had a brain disease that causees hallucinations and
>>> other debilitating neurological symptoms, including depression did you
>>> not understand, idiot?
>>> 
>> 
>> I doubt he killed himself in a hallucination episode. 
> 
> Is that your learned medical diagnosis of someone you have never met?
> 
> 

No that's my common sense guess. 

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#587606

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 01:05 +0000
Message-ID<vigj4d-h8b.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587588
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:27:21 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:46:06 -0000, 
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:03:56 -0000,
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
>>>>>>> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
>>>>>>> enough morphine to do the job. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Robin Williams wasn't in pain, he had a brain disease that causees
>>>>>> hallucinations and other debilitating neurological symptoms, including
>>>>>> depression, you babbling idiot.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
>>>>> an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
>>>>> choosing asphyxiation.
>>>> 
>>>> What part of he had a brain disease that causees hallucinations and
>>>> other debilitating neurological symptoms, including depression did you
>>>> not understand, idiot?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I doubt he killed himself in a hallucination episode. 
>> 
>> Is that your learned medical diagnosis of someone you have never met?
>> 
>> 
> 
> No that's my common sense guess. 

And as usual, your "common sense" is a pile of nonsense.

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#587611

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 20:32 -0500
Message-ID<fkbk2vowxqrb$.1pm6aoqvr730r$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587606
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 01:05:03 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:27:21 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:46:06 -0000, 
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:03:56 -0000,
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
>>>>>>>> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
>>>>>>>> enough morphine to do the job. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Robin Williams wasn't in pain, he had a brain disease that causees
>>>>>>> hallucinations and other debilitating neurological symptoms, including
>>>>>>> depression, you babbling idiot.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
>>>>>> an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
>>>>>> choosing asphyxiation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What part of he had a brain disease that causees hallucinations and
>>>>> other debilitating neurological symptoms, including depression did you
>>>>> not understand, idiot?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I doubt he killed himself in a hallucination episode. 
>>> 
>>> Is that your learned medical diagnosis of someone you have never met?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> No that's my common sense guess. 
> 
> And as usual, your "common sense" is a pile of nonsense.
> 

So are you saying he did it while hallucinating? That
sure sounds "nonsense" to me. 

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#587635

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-07-02 09:23 -0500
Message-ID<nl8ips$151u$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#587588
On 7/1/2016 7:43 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:27:21 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:46:06 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:03:56 -0000,
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>

>>>>>>> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
>>>>>>> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
>>>>>>> enough morphine to do the job.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robin Williams wasn't in pain, he had a brain disease that causees
>>>>>> hallucinations and other debilitating neurological symptoms, including
>>>>>> depression, you babbling idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
>>>>> an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
>>>>> choosing asphyxiation.

>>>> What part of he had a brain disease that causees hallucinations and
>>>> other debilitating neurological symptoms, including depression did you
>>>> not understand, idiot?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I doubt he killed himself in a hallucination episode.
>>
>> Is that your learned medical diagnosis of someone you have never met?
>>
>>
>
> No that's my common sense guess.
>


an admission you are guessing and making stuff up,
realize doing such is a sickness
it is easier to go fact check, than be lazy and make stuff up.

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#587639

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-02 10:08 -0500
Message-ID<1d6tc29kg047x.w1kj1efx5y4n$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587635
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:23:37 -0500, Sergio wrote:

> On 7/1/2016 7:43 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:27:21 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:46:06 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:03:56 -0000,
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
> 
>>>>>>>> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
>>>>>>>> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
>>>>>>>> enough morphine to do the job.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robin Williams wasn't in pain, he had a brain disease that causees
>>>>>>> hallucinations and other debilitating neurological symptoms, including
>>>>>>> depression, you babbling idiot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
>>>>>> an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
>>>>>> choosing asphyxiation.
> 
>>>>> What part of he had a brain disease that causees hallucinations and
>>>>> other debilitating neurological symptoms, including depression did you
>>>>> not understand, idiot?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I doubt he killed himself in a hallucination episode.
>>>
>>> Is that your learned medical diagnosis of someone you have never met?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No that's my common sense guess.
>>
> 
> 
> an admission you are guessing and making stuff up,
> realize doing such is a sickness
> it is easier to go fact check, than be lazy and make stuff up.

Anything I said is based on observation.

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#587656

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-07-02 11:53 -0500
Message-ID<nl8rji$1iei$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#587639
On 7/2/2016 10:08 AM, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:23:37 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>
>> On 7/1/2016 7:43 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:27:21 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
>>>>>>> an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
>>>>>>> choosing asphyxiation.

>>>>>> What part of he had a brain disease that causees hallucinations and
>>>>>> other debilitating neurological symptoms, including depression did you
>>>>>> not understand, idiot?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt he killed himself in a hallucination episode.
>>>>
>>>> Is that your learned medical diagnosis of someone you have never met?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> No that's my common sense guess.
>>>
>>
>>
>> an admission you are guessing and making stuff up,
>> realize doing such is a sickness
>> it is easier to go fact check, than be lazy and make stuff up.
>
> Anything I said is based on observation.

so you observed Robin Williams research how to kill himself ?

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#587660

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-02 12:26 -0500
Message-ID<10rekd74liiwx.1b74pvfn62q39.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587656
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 11:53:52 -0500, Sergio wrote:

> On 7/2/2016 10:08 AM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:23:37 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/1/2016 7:43 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:27:21 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
>>>>>>>> an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
>>>>>>>> choosing asphyxiation.
> 
>>>>>>> What part of he had a brain disease that causees hallucinations and
>>>>>>> other debilitating neurological symptoms, including depression did you
>>>>>>> not understand, idiot?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I doubt he killed himself in a hallucination episode.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that your learned medical diagnosis of someone you have never met?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No that's my common sense guess.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> an admission you are guessing and making stuff up,
>>> realize doing such is a sickness
>>> it is easier to go fact check, than be lazy and make stuff up.
>>
>> Anything I said is based on observation.
> 
> so you observed Robin Williams research how to kill himself ?

That guess was based on observations :)

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#587663

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 17:43 +0000
Message-ID<s2bl4d-5ch.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587660
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 11:53:52 -0500, Sergio wrote:
> 
>> On 7/2/2016 10:08 AM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:23:37 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/1/2016 7:43 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:27:21 -0000,
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>> 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
>>>>>>>>> an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
>>>>>>>>> choosing asphyxiation.
>> 
>>>>>>>> What part of he had a brain disease that causees hallucinations and
>>>>>>>> other debilitating neurological symptoms, including depression did you
>>>>>>>> not understand, idiot?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I doubt he killed himself in a hallucination episode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that your learned medical diagnosis of someone you have never met?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No that's my common sense guess.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> an admission you are guessing and making stuff up,
>>>> realize doing such is a sickness
>>>> it is easier to go fact check, than be lazy and make stuff up.
>>>
>>> Anything I said is based on observation.
>> 
>> so you observed Robin Williams research how to kill himself ?
> 
> That guess was based on observations :)

You misspelled delusions.


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#587669

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-07-02 13:45 -0500
Message-ID<nl925c$1t9l$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#587663
On 7/2/2016 12:43 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 11:53:52 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/2/2016 10:08 AM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:23:37 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/1/2016 7:43 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:27:21 -0000,
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
>>>>>>>>>> an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
>>>>>>>>>> choosing asphyxiation.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> What part of he had a brain disease that causees hallucinations and
>>>>>>>>> other debilitating neurological symptoms, including depression did you
>>>>>>>>> not understand, idiot?

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I doubt he killed himself in a hallucination episode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is that your learned medical diagnosis of someone you have never met?

>>>>>> No that's my common sense guess.

>>>>> an admission you are guessing and making stuff up,
>>>>> realize doing such is a sickness
>>>>> it is easier to go fact check, than be lazy and make stuff up.
>>>>
>>>> Anything I said is based on observation.
>>>
>>> so you observed Robin Williams research how to kill himself ?
>>
>> That guess was based on observations :)
>
> You misspelled delusions.
>
>

    remote viewers will do that at times

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#587704

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-02 16:49 -0500
Message-ID<qks93g2c3agr$.9j7w2gflvjz2$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587663
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:43:24 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 11:53:52 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>> 
>>> On 7/2/2016 10:08 AM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:23:37 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/1/2016 7:43 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:27:21 -0000,
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For whatever reason he wanted to kill himself. He was
>>>>>>>>>> an intelligent man. He must've researched it before
>>>>>>>>>> choosing asphyxiation.
>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What part of he had a brain disease that causees hallucinations and
>>>>>>>>> other debilitating neurological symptoms, including depression did you
>>>>>>>>> not understand, idiot?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I doubt he killed himself in a hallucination episode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is that your learned medical diagnosis of someone you have never met?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No that's my common sense guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> an admission you are guessing and making stuff up,
>>>>> realize doing such is a sickness
>>>>> it is easier to go fact check, than be lazy and make stuff up.
>>>>
>>>> Anything I said is based on observation.
>>> 
>>> so you observed Robin Williams research how to kill himself ?
>> 
>> That guess was based on observations :)
> 
> You misspelled delusions.
> 

No, based on observation of the circumstantial
evidences. And Williams was neither delusional nor
hallucinating when he decided to kill himself. Suicide
doesn't get realized from paranoia or seeing things.
You are a little bit careless about this subject. 

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#587763

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-07-02 22:57 -0500
Message-ID<nla2ff$17pd$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#587704
On 7/2/2016 4:49 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:43:24 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 11:53:52 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/2/2016 10:08 AM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:23:37 -0500, Sergio wrote:

>>>>>> an admission you are guessing and making stuff up,
>>>>>> realize doing such is a sickness
>>>>>> it is easier to go fact check, than be lazy and make stuff up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anything I said is based on observation.
>>>>
>>>> so you observed Robin Williams research how to kill himself ?
>>>
>>> That guess was based on observations :)
>>
>> You misspelled delusions.
>>
>
> No, based on observation of the circumstantial
> evidences.

so you are guessing. No problem with guessing, it is just that you state 
rumor as fact.

> And Williams was neither delusional nor
> hallucinating when he decided to kill himself.

Did he tell you that ?

> Suicide
> doesn't get realized from paranoia or seeing things.

Generalizations typiclly do not apply to spicific cases.

> You are a little bit careless about this subject.

good, a little bit is OK.   much better than a lotta bit.


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#587560

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-07-01 17:25 -0500
Message-ID<nl6qm4$101i$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#587543
On 7/1/2016 4:34 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:03:05 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>

>>
>> its different today, even in states that have it outlawed.
>> I've watched 2, and know of 2 others.
>> it is between a patient and his/her Dr.
>> and Drs don't want patients to suffer any pain.
>> curarie not used in the end game.
>
> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
> enough morphine to do the job.
>

suicide is not rational, he could have been saved, National Suicide 
Prevention Lifeline, which runs a website and 24-hour hotline 
(1-800-273-8255) for people in crisis. “A big part of them doesn’t want 
to die and the overwhelming majority get through those moments and are 
glad they’re alive.”

So I talk of comedians carrying their addiction with them everywhere 
they go. It's always available like kids who suck their thumb rather 
than use a pacifier. Anytime you feel insecure, there it is at the 
ready. So you can avoid dealing with the gut wrenching stuff that makes 
one grow.

Robin then had a heart attack. "Wake up, the end is near." He was on 
Charlie Rose shortly after and had finished his new stand up weapon of 
"self distruction" for HBO. He wasn't as manic on Charlie's show and 
talk of "greatful" as the most important thing.

But two years later, Robin was going through his list of things which 
had got him through the night. I call them "White Rabbits," as in Alice 
in Wonderland. Things to keep you distracted. He'd gotten married again, 
did some routines, a little D&A, A sitcom. At this point, they all were 
failing to give that light and purpose to life. He seemed emotionally 
and spiritually bankrupt, loosing what perspective he'd had. His 
interviews intimated he'd been harboring some shame and guilt from 
earlier times too.

But it seems the last monkey wrench was being diagnosed with Parkinson's 
disease. At this time, a one way ticket to a loss of everything 
cherished in a crumbling world. He saw no future to get off that 
horrible train. How does one cope when all the life preservers have sunk?

Robin still hadn't dealt with some of his serious stuff. Not haveing the 
blessing not knowing how to heal it, he is alone inside with all those 
friends. Pretty sad for it to come to that.

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#587571

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 18:01 -0500
Message-ID<vz5zfbfpbfjk$.18b85dn0zz9gu.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587560
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:25:58 -0500, Sergio wrote:

> On 7/1/2016 4:34 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:03:05 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>
> 
>>>
>>> its different today, even in states that have it outlawed.
>>> I've watched 2, and know of 2 others.
>>> it is between a patient and his/her Dr.
>>> and Drs don't want patients to suffer any pain.
>>> curarie not used in the end game.
>>
>> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
>> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
>> enough morphine to do the job.
>>
> 
> suicide is not rational, 

So you're saying he wouldn't prefer an easier way to
go? He probably knew a lot about morphine and could
arrange it.


> he could have been saved, 

Why saving someone who wants to die? You make the help
available and leave the rest to himself. If he decides
to die regardless, at least provide the best way for
him. Curare is better than a belt. 

> National Suicide 
> Prevention Lifeline, which runs a website and 24-hour hotline 
> (1-800-273-8255) for people in crisis. “A big part of them doesn’t want 
> to die and the overwhelming majority get through those moments and are 
> glad they’re alive.”
> 

No, it is those "moments" that count. People do their
most consequential acts during "moments". That's why
dangerous ones are hard to catch. If a moment comes
that a man wants to die, make it easy for him to die.
You as a society owe at least this much to him. 

They do that in other countries, that cliff (I don't
remember where it is), that jungle in Japan. Their
society allow people to take their own lives. Heck
they even have a ceremony for it in Japan.  

> So I talk of comedians carrying their addiction with them everywhere 
> they go. It's always available like kids who suck their thumb rather 
> than use a pacifier. Anytime you feel insecure, there it is at the 
> ready. So you can avoid dealing with the gut wrenching stuff that makes 
> one grow.
> 
> Robin then had a heart attack. "Wake up, the end is near." He was on 
> Charlie Rose shortly after and had finished his new stand up weapon of 
> "self distruction" for HBO. He wasn't as manic on Charlie's show and 
> talk of "greatful" as the most important thing.
> 
> But two years later, Robin was going through his list of things which 
> had got him through the night. I call them "White Rabbits," as in Alice 
> in Wonderland. Things to keep you distracted. He'd gotten married again, 
> did some routines, a little D&A, A sitcom. At this point, they all were 
> failing to give that light and purpose to life. He seemed emotionally 
> and spiritually bankrupt, loosing what perspective he'd had. His 
> interviews intimated he'd been harboring some shame and guilt from 
> earlier times too.
> 
> But it seems the last monkey wrench was being diagnosed with Parkinson's 
> disease. At this time, a one way ticket to a loss of everything 
> cherished in a crumbling world. He saw no future to get off that 
> horrible train. How does one cope when all the life preservers have sunk?
> 
> Robin still hadn't dealt with some of his serious stuff. Not haveing the 
> blessing not knowing how to heal it, he is alone inside with all those 
> friends. Pretty sad for it to come to that.

Back to curare vs morphine. Why didn't Williams use
morphine? I think probably the fear of curare as the
ideal suicide drug is keeping the doctors away from
dispensing it or having anything to do with it.

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#587589

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 00:32 +0000
Message-ID<mlej4d-04b.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587571
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:25:58 -0500, Sergio wrote:
> 
>> On 7/1/2016 4:34 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:03:05 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>
>> 
>>>>
>>>> its different today, even in states that have it outlawed.
>>>> I've watched 2, and know of 2 others.
>>>> it is between a patient and his/her Dr.
>>>> and Drs don't want patients to suffer any pain.
>>>> curarie not used in the end game.
>>>
>>> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
>>> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
>>> enough morphine to do the job.
>>>
>> 
>> suicide is not rational, 
> 
> So you're saying he wouldn't prefer an easier way to
> go? He probably knew a lot about morphine and could
> arrange it.

Or sleeping pills, or heroin or cocain or...

<snip silly babble>

> Back to curare vs morphine. Why didn't Williams use
> morphine?

Why didn't he OD on a lot of things he could have eaisly ODed on?

> I think probably the fear of curare as the
> ideal suicide drug is keeping the doctors away from
> dispensing it or having anything to do with it.

Silly nonsense.

The ideal suicide drug would be a major OD of just about any narcotic.

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#587601

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 20:03 -0500
Message-ID<1kptkdq3niqm2.10gjgtdx5pani$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587589
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:32:22 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:25:58 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>> 
>>> On 7/1/2016 4:34 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:03:05 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> its different today, even in states that have it outlawed.
>>>>> I've watched 2, and know of 2 others.
>>>>> it is between a patient and his/her Dr.
>>>>> and Drs don't want patients to suffer any pain.
>>>>> curarie not used in the end game.
>>>>
>>>> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
>>>> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
>>>> enough morphine to do the job.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> suicide is not rational, 
>> 
>> So you're saying he wouldn't prefer an easier way to
>> go? He probably knew a lot about morphine and could
>> arrange it.
> 
> Or sleeping pills, or heroin or cocain or...
> 

No you don't know enough about it.

> <snip silly babble>
> 
>> Back to curare vs morphine. Why didn't Williams use
>> morphine?
> 
> Why didn't he OD on a lot of things he could have eaisly ODed on?
> 

He must've researched and found out asphyxiation is
the easiest and least painful.

>> I think probably the fear of curare as the
>> ideal suicide drug is keeping the doctors away from
>> dispensing it or having anything to do with it.
> 
> Silly nonsense.
> 
> The ideal suicide drug would be a major OD of just about any narcotic.
> 

No! As I said you don't know about it. Watch videos of
those in youtube who have survived suicide attempts.
For about one year I was interested about bipolars and
watched many many videos from them (youtube is an
excellent source for information on bipolars). OD is a
horrible way to go. Then they find you and drag you
out of it by force and you come back a totally fucked
up man. My neighbor's niece's husband and his brother
both OD'd together on heroin, one died one survived
although they had done everything to be successful. It
is chancy, leaves a wide margin you'd be found and
rescued. 

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