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Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9

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First post2016-06-15 11:47 -0400
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  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-06-15 11:47 -0400
    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-15 18:02 -0400
      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-15 18:53 -0400
        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-15 19:41 -0400
          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-15 20:12 -0400
          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-15 22:18 -0400
            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-16 05:57 -0400
            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 08:47 -0700
              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-18 12:59 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 08:45 -0700
                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-19 13:49 -0400
                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 10:56 -0700
                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-20 15:41 -0400
                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 14:30 -0700
                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-20 18:41 -0400
                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-20 21:55 -0400
                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 01:32 -0400
                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-21 06:09 -0400
                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-21 09:04 -0400
                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-21 18:23 -0400
                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-21 23:41 -0400
                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 13:16 -0400
                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 12:47 -0700
                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-21 20:18 +0000
                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-21 16:12 -0500
                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-21 21:31 +0000
                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 12:25 -0700
                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-22 21:57 -0400
                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-22 22:30 -0400
                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-23 06:27 -0400
                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 10:19 -0700
                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-24 06:43 -0400
                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 05:12 -0700
                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 12:23 -0700
                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-22 20:53 +0000
                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 14:37 -0700
                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-22 22:20 +0000
                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 00:31 -0700
                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-23 17:45 +0000
                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 14:27 -0700
                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-23 22:51 +0000
                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 05:42 -0700
                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-24 15:54 +0000
                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 20:30 -0700
                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 05:47 +0000
                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 17:31 -0700
                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:57 +0000
                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 19:55 -0700
                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:28 +0000
                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 14:25 -0700
                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 23:15 +0000
                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 21:39 -0700
                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 05:52 +0000
                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 22:43 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-04 16:28 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 17:06 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-08 01:03 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 02:00 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-09 17:06 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 11:23 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-10 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 00:21 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-11 15:50 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 09:35 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-12 18:08 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 17:46 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-13 02:56 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-04 09:33 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 16:58 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-07 00:17 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-07 14:07 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-07 19:05 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 02:48 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-08 18:42 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 11:03 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-10 19:00 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 23:47 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-11 15:28 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 08:47 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-12 17:20 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 17:43 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-13 02:54 +0000
                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-02 23:01 -0400
                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 21:43 -0700
                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 05:55 +0000
                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 22:46 -0700
                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-04 16:34 +0000
                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 17:11 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-08 01:10 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 02:07 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-09 17:20 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 11:37 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-10 19:57 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 00:33 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-11 15:59 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 09:59 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-12 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 18:06 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-13 03:11 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-08 01:16 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 02:18 -0700
                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-03 22:25 -0400
                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 19:40 -0700
                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-22 18:51 -0400
                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 00:35 -0700
                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-22 18:26 -0400
                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 00:32 -0700
                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 22:39 -0400
                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-22 05:01 +0000
                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 13:50 -0400
                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-22 18:25 +0000
                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-22 13:42 -0500
                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 15:07 -0400
                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-22 18:11 -0400
                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-22 23:31 +0000
                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-22 20:15 -0400
                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 05:05 -0700
                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-23 05:50 +0000
                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 10:22 -0700
                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-23 17:54 +0000
                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 15:24 -0700
                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-23 22:58 +0000
                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 05:47 -0700
                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-24 16:03 +0000
                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-24 22:56 -0400
                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-25 08:54 -0400
                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-25 14:21 -0400
                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-25 16:33 -0400
                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 23:32 -0700
                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 20:41 -0700
                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 20:35 -0700
                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 05:56 +0000
                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 17:32 -0700
                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:03 +0000
                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 19:56 -0700
                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:34 +0000
                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 14:05 -0700
                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 14:27 -0700
                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 23:20 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 21:41 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 05:56 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 20:53 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-05 06:11 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 17:12 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-08 01:12 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 02:08 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-09 17:23 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 11:38 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-10 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 00:35 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-11 15:59 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 10:01 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-12 18:29 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 18:09 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-13 03:14 +0000
                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-02 23:03 -0400
                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 05:57 +0000
                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-24 22:44 -0400
                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-25 08:57 -0400
                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-25 14:31 -0400
                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-25 16:39 -0400
                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-25 16:43 -0400
                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-26 00:05 -0400
                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-26 15:40 -0400
                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-06-27 21:31 +0100
                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-28 06:18 -0400
                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-26 22:29 -0400
                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 23:36 -0700
                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 23:28 -0700
                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 00:26 -0700
                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 12:36 -0700
                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 06:31 -0700
                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com> - 2016-06-21 15:37 +0000
                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-21 18:27 -0400
                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 20:11 -0700
                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-21 09:02 -0400
                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 07:59 -0700
                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jonathan <writeInstead@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 05:12 -0400
                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 20:55 -0700
                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-07-05 06:06 -0400
                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 20:04 -0400
                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-20 21:59 -0400
                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 01:42 -0400
                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-21 06:21 -0400
                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 13:36 -0400
                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 06:34 -0700
                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 13:54 -0400
                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 10:24 -0700
                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 07:42 -0400
                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 20:12 -0700
          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 04:30 -0700
            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-18 12:45 -0400
              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 08:37 -0700
            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-18 14:27 -0400
      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 04:18 -0700
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#587798

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-03 05:56 +0000
Message-ID<r0mm4d-ill.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587771
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Buy a fucking dictionary and look it up, Chimpshit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>manufacture: the making of goods or wares by manual labor or by machinery,
>>>>>>>>especially on a large scale
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Note nothing about 'selling' the results.  You're done.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>wares: articles of merchandise or manufacture; goods
>>>>>>
>>>>>>merchandise: the manufactured goods bought and sold in any business
>>>>>>
>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note that orbital services are 'wares'.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>services: the performance of any duties or work for another
>>>>
>>>>SpaceX is a delivery service who's business model is almost identical
>>>>to UPS and FedX, i.e. all three accept cargo to be delivered to a
>>>>specific location.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> The difference is that SpaceX is also the truck manufacturer in your
>>> inapt example.
>> 
>>Both FedEx and UPS use highly customized COTS delivery vehicles.
>>
> 
> Note:  "COTS delivery vehicles".
> 
>>
>>As there are no COTS orbital delivery vehicles (at the present time),
>>SpaceX has little choice in the matter.
>> 
>>But they are still nothing more than a freight delivery service.
>>
> 
> That manufactures rockets and orbital capsules.
 
So what?

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#588003

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-04 20:53 -0700
Message-ID<hnbmnbdl0tfvvhfits3i2f71q4a3mskjrh@4ax.com>
In reply to#587798
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Buy a fucking dictionary and look it up, Chimpshit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>manufacture: the making of goods or wares by manual labor or by machinery,
>>>>>>>>>especially on a large scale
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Note nothing about 'selling' the results.  You're done.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>wares: articles of merchandise or manufacture; goods
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>merchandise: the manufactured goods bought and sold in any business
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Note that orbital services are 'wares'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>services: the performance of any duties or work for another
>>>>>
>>>>>SpaceX is a delivery service who's business model is almost identical
>>>>>to UPS and FedX, i.e. all three accept cargo to be delivered to a
>>>>>specific location.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> The difference is that SpaceX is also the truck manufacturer in your
>>>> inapt example.
>>> 
>>>Both FedEx and UPS use highly customized COTS delivery vehicles.
>>>
>> 
>> Note:  "COTS delivery vehicles".
>> 
>>>
>>>As there are no COTS orbital delivery vehicles (at the present time),
>>>SpaceX has little choice in the matter.
>>> 
>>>But they are still nothing more than a freight delivery service.
>>>
>> 
>> That manufactures rockets and orbital capsules.
>>
> 
>So what?
>

So that's 'production', you stupid shit.  Just like Ford produces the
trucks that the companies in your inapt comparison to freight delivery
services use.


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#588017

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-05 06:11 +0000
Message-ID<jlvr4d-dn9.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#588003
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Buy a fucking dictionary and look it up, Chimpshit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>manufacture: the making of goods or wares by manual labor or by machinery,
>>>>>>>>>>especially on a large scale
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Note nothing about 'selling' the results.  You're done.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>wares: articles of merchandise or manufacture; goods
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>merchandise: the manufactured goods bought and sold in any business
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Note that orbital services are 'wares'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>services: the performance of any duties or work for another
>>>>>>
>>>>>>SpaceX is a delivery service who's business model is almost identical
>>>>>>to UPS and FedX, i.e. all three accept cargo to be delivered to a
>>>>>>specific location.
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> The difference is that SpaceX is also the truck manufacturer in your
>>>>> inapt example.
>>>> 
>>>>Both FedEx and UPS use highly customized COTS delivery vehicles.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Note:  "COTS delivery vehicles".
>>> 
>>>>
>>>>As there are no COTS orbital delivery vehicles (at the present time),
>>>>SpaceX has little choice in the matter.
>>>> 
>>>>But they are still nothing more than a freight delivery service.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> That manufactures rockets and orbital capsules.
>>>
>> 
>>So what?
>>
> 
> So that's 'production', you stupid shit.  Just like Ford produces the
> trucks that the companies in your inapt comparison to freight delivery
> services use.
 
Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#588306

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-07 17:12 -0700
Message-ID<7vrtnb5otfigm5uvuag0gadj50ddd8nnvq@4ax.com>
In reply to#588017
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Buy a fucking dictionary and look it up, Chimpshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>manufacture: the making of goods or wares by manual labor or by machinery,
>>>>>>>>>>>especially on a large scale
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Note nothing about 'selling' the results.  You're done.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>wares: articles of merchandise or manufacture; goods
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>merchandise: the manufactured goods bought and sold in any business
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Note that orbital services are 'wares'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>services: the performance of any duties or work for another
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>SpaceX is a delivery service who's business model is almost identical
>>>>>>>to UPS and FedX, i.e. all three accept cargo to be delivered to a
>>>>>>>specific location.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The difference is that SpaceX is also the truck manufacturer in your
>>>>>> inapt example.
>>>>> 
>>>>>Both FedEx and UPS use highly customized COTS delivery vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Note:  "COTS delivery vehicles".
>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>As there are no COTS orbital delivery vehicles (at the present time),
>>>>>SpaceX has little choice in the matter.
>>>>> 
>>>>>But they are still nothing more than a freight delivery service.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> That manufactures rockets and orbital capsules.
>>>>
>>> 
>>>So what?
>>>
>> 
>> So that's 'production', you stupid shit.  Just like Ford produces the
>> trucks that the companies in your inapt comparison to freight delivery
>> services use.
>>
> 
>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
> 

Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.


-- 
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
 truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
                               -- Thomas Jefferson

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#588311

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-08 01:12 +0000
Message-ID<78b35d-ic9.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#588306
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

<snip>
 
>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>> 
> 
> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
 
Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#588459

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-09 02:08 -0700
Message-ID<1of1obhv0jn1ott26n33cmr123glsd1flp@4ax.com>
In reply to#588311
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
><snip>
> 
>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>> 
>> 
>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
> 
>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
> 

But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
not.


-- 
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
 truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
                               -- Thomas Jefferson

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#588486

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-09 17:23 +0000
Message-ID<rgo75d-smp.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#588459
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>> 
>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>> 
>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>> 
> 
> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
> not.
 
When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
to provoke an argument. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#588611

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-10 11:38 -0700
Message-ID<pf55obllie34m31c9ppja8s7d579m3jq3p@4ax.com>
In reply to#588486
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>> 
>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>> 
>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>> 
>> 
>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>> not.
> 
>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>to provoke an argument. 
>

You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
commercial sale?


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#588630

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-10 19:57 +0000
Message-ID<3vla5d-7q5.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#588611
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>><snip>
>>>> 
>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>> 
>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>> not.
>> 
>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>to provoke an argument. 
>>
> 
> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
> commercial sale?
 
Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
a company.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#588726

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-11 00:35 -0700
Message-ID<7vi6obt851lfvqr36lj8dj5lebkj21j7g7@4ax.com>
In reply to#588630
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>><snip>
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>> 
>>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>>> not.
>>> 
>>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>>to provoke an argument. 
>>>
>> 
>> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
>> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
>> commercial sale?
> 
>Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
>a company.
> 

Bullshit.  


-- 
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
 your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
                             -- Mark Twain

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#588768

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-11 15:59 +0000
Message-ID<vcsc5d-iuc.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#588726
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>>>> not.
>>>> 
>>>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>>>to provoke an argument. 
>>>>
>>> 
>>> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
>>> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
>>> commercial sale?
>> 
>>Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
>>a company.
>> 
> 
> Bullshit.  
 
Yes, you are full of it. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#588908

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-12 10:01 -0700
Message-ID<lf8aobpfgj8jbta50f1q7dstclgehro64s@4ax.com>
In reply to#588768
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>>>>> not.
>>>>> 
>>>>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>>>>to provoke an argument. 
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
>>>> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
>>>> commercial sale?
>>> 
>>>Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
>>>a company.
>>> 
>> 
>> Bullshit.  
> 
>Yes, you are full of it. 
>

No, I'm just buried under it from you shoveling so much.

Let me make it clear.  Your statement about the "commonly used
definition of production" is incorrect.  It is false.  It is a lie.


-- 
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
 your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
                             -- Mark Twain

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#588919

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-12 18:29 +0000
Message-ID<jhpf5d-m9m.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#588908
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>>>>>to provoke an argument. 
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
>>>>> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
>>>>> commercial sale?
>>>> 
>>>>Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
>>>>a company.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bullshit.  
>> 
>>Yes, you are full of it. 
>>
> 
> No, I'm just buried under it from you shoveling so much.
> 
> Let me make it clear.  Your statement about the "commonly used
> definition of production" is incorrect.  It is false.  It is a lie.
 
Says you, tosser.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#588994

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-12 18:09 -0700
Message-ID<d15bob17iup88fnmqu3k06i5rqg8opvure@4ax.com>
In reply to#588919
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>>>>>>to provoke an argument. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
>>>>>> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
>>>>>> commercial sale?
>>>>> 
>>>>>Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
>>>>>a company.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bullshit.  
>>> 
>>>Yes, you are full of it. 
>>>
>> 
>> No, I'm just buried under it from you shoveling so much.
>> 
>> Let me make it clear.  Your statement about the "commonly used
>> definition of production" is incorrect.  It is false.  It is a lie.
> 
>Says you, tosser.
>

Says pretty much everyone but you, wanker.  Try buying a dictionary.
Try asking anyone who actually knows what SpaceX and the Falcon
booster are whether SpaceX produces the Falcon booster.


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 truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
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#589019

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-13 03:14 +0000
Message-ID<daog5d-3ap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#588994
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>>>>>>>to provoke an argument. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
>>>>>>> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
>>>>>>> commercial sale?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
>>>>>>a company.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bullshit.  
>>>> 
>>>>Yes, you are full of it. 
>>>>
>>> 
>>> No, I'm just buried under it from you shoveling so much.
>>> 
>>> Let me make it clear.  Your statement about the "commonly used
>>> definition of production" is incorrect.  It is false.  It is a lie.
>> 
>>Says you, tosser.
>>
> 
> Says pretty much everyone but you, wanker.  Try buying a dictionary.
> Try asking anyone who actually knows what SpaceX and the Falcon
> booster are whether SpaceX produces the Falcon booster.
 
No wonder you know nothing about 14 CFR.

Well hot flash, the aviation regs in the UK are essentially identical
to the US. 


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#587760

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2016-07-02 23:03 -0400
Message-ID<57788099$0$9125$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#587628
On 2016-07-02 01:34, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> SpaceX is a delivery service who's business model is almost identical
> to UPS and FedX, i.e. all three accept cargo to be delivered to a
> specific location.


You mean that SpaceX will leave a card in low orbit and return the
satellite to some distant depot like UPS does ? :-)

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#587799

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-03 05:57 +0000
Message-ID<l3mm4d-ill.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587760
In sci.physics JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-07-02 01:34, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> SpaceX is a delivery service who's business model is almost identical
>> to UPS and FedX, i.e. all three accept cargo to be delivered to a
>> specific location.
> 
> 
> You mean that SpaceX will leave a card in low orbit and return the
> satellite to some distant depot like UPS does ? :-)

Only if no one is home and the delivery requires a signed receipt. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#586505

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2016-06-24 22:44 -0400
Message-ID<576df025$0$25299$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#586358
On 2016-06-23 18:58, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> SpaceX manufactures as needed for their own use. SpaceX is
> selling launch services, not space ships, Space Cadet McCrap.


Obviously the case for commercial launches.  But what about NASA
launches to ISS ?  I assume NASA buys the Dragon spacecraft and owns it?

What about stage2 and stage1 ? Do they remain SpaceX property despite
being lauched by NASA ?

Or does KSC and Houston mission controls really just play an observer
role in this and Hawthorne is the real driver seat ?

(NASA TV seems to make it look like KSC and Houston play a major role
with Hawthorne just "monitoring things".

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#586563

FromJeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com>
Date2016-06-25 08:57 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.31d849e29e53f7f7989780@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#586505
In article <576df025$0$25299$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>, 
jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca says...
> 
> On 2016-06-23 18:58, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > SpaceX manufactures as needed for their own use. SpaceX is
> > selling launch services, not space ships, Space Cadet McCrap.
> 
> 
> Obviously the case for commercial launches.  But what about NASA
> launches to ISS ?  I assume NASA buys the Dragon spacecraft and owns it?

Wrong.  They're buying cargo delivery service.  That's kind of the whole 
point of "commercial cargo".  Paying for services instead of hardware 
that NASA middle management will want to micro-manage (at a very high 
cost).

> What about stage2 and stage1 ? Do they remain SpaceX property despite
> being lauched by NASA ?
>
> Or does KSC and Houston mission controls really just play an observer
> role in this and Hawthorne is the real driver seat ?

NASA does not launch *any* Falcons.  Mission control for Falcon is is 
Hawthorne California.  Watch the live stream of a launch sometime!
 
 
> (NASA TV seems to make it look like KSC and Houston play a major role
> with Hawthorne just "monitoring things".

Don't watch NASA TV.  Watch the SpaceX live-stream!

Jeff
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#586646

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2016-06-25 14:31 -0400
Message-ID<576ecded$0$1532$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#586563
On 2016-06-25 08:57, Jeff Findley wrote:

> Wrong.  They're buying cargo delivery service.  That's kind of the whole 
> point of "commercial cargo".

But NASA sent a whole boat load of cash to SpaceX to build a number of
Dragons for the COTS project. And if you look at their requirement that
manned Dragons land in water, it appears to me that they are buying more
than taxi service.


> NASA does not launch *any* Falcons.  Mission control for Falcon is is 
> Hawthorne California.  Watch the live stream of a launch sometime!

I have watched both NASA and SpaceX streams. And NASA really puts
emphasis on its mission control crews being in control and Hawthorne
just "monitoring".

If we hear "hold hold hold" just before launch, is that a SpaceX
employee or NASA one ?  Would it be fair to state that NASA employees
are involved for weather and launch pad ? (or is that the airforce
employees ?)  AKA: when SpaceX contracts to launch from Cape Canaveral,
is the contract with military or with NASA ?


In terms of approach to the station. after Dragon has gone into "safe"
station keeping, I take it that NASA is the one who authorizes final
approach ? Does NASA send the command to Dragon to proceed with final
approach, or does SPaceX send the command ?

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