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  Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 11:20 -0500
    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 16:48 +0000
      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 12:27 -0500
        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 17:55 +0000
        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 12:34 -0500
    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 22:12 +0100
      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-25 09:17 -0400
        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-25 15:30 +0100
          Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-25 10:53 -0400
            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-25 10:15 -0500
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-25 11:35 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-25 11:02 -0500
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 11:09 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-25 14:03 -0400
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 19:52 -0500
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-26 16:25 -0400
                          Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:23 -0500
                            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-27 09:45 -0400
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 10:36 -0500
              & & & noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 10:20 -0700
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-25 20:50 +0100
            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 16:57 +0000
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-25 14:06 -0400
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 05:43 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:40 +0000
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED 9/11 "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 17:19 -0400
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED 9/11 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 22:00 +0000
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 17:06 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 23:01 +0000
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:23 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED and so does Jim gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:51 -0500
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-27 07:25 +0200
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  Jim is a LIAR "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 09:21 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  Jim is a LIAR jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:41 +0000
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Jim is a LIAR gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-26 22:37 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  Jim is a LIAR "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:21 -0500
            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-25 14:01 -0400
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 06:02 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-26 16:36 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:21 -0500
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-27 18:54 +0200
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 20:01 -0500
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-28 05:53 +0200
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  BKD is BAD "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 09:47 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED  BKD is BAD jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:43 +0000
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BKD is BAD gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:57 -0500
            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:18 -0500
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-08-26 06:05 -0400
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:21 -0500
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 10:38 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-29 16:27 +0000
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 11:50 -0500
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-29 17:40 +0000
                          Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 12:57 -0500
                            Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-29 18:11 +0000
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-29 19:31 +0100
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 15:56 -0500
                      Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-29 18:50 -0500
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-30 01:28 +0000
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 22:27 -0500
                        Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 04:41 -0500
              Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 09:17 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 17:48 +0000
                  Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED (I did not see a plane go in) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-26 15:07 -0500
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED (I did not see a plane go in) jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-26 20:36 +0000
                    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED (I did not see a plane go in) gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:53 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:22 -0500
                Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 12:56 -0500
    Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-24 20:28 -0500

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#517096

In article <mrk2p9$i70$1@dont-email.me>, fakename@nomail.invalid says...
> 
> BDK wrote:
> > In article <mrhvee$kav$1@dont-email.me>, fakename@nomail.invalid says...
> >>
> >> Tony Dragon wrote:
> >>> On 25/08/2015 14:17, Bast wrote:
> >>>> Tony Dragon wrote:
> >>>>> On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
> >>>>>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter
> >>>>>> if the Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really
> >>>>>> matters is we were given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about
> >>>>>> what really brought the Twin Towers down.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> About turn.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder
> >>>>>> bullshit and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war
> >>>>>> is based on
> >>>>>> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the
> >>>>>> testing that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows
> >>>>>> better than
> >>>>>> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse
> >>>>>> Initiation hypothesis."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes
> >>>>>> were used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore
> >>>>>> the fact that NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It most certainly was.
> >>>> The first responders that died were never included as "9/11
> >>>> casualties"
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkNn6Huko0
> >>>>
> >>>> And were also dismissed as "kooks",...yet THEY WERE THERE.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> What were they reported as then?
> >>>
> >>> I am sure that there has been lists of for example fire service
> >>> casualties.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Not according to the US federal government.
> >> As they would have to answer questions of why so many of the 9/11 first
> >> responders are now dead with cancer.
> >>
> >> Much like after Hiroshima the victims years later were never considered
> >> "casualties".
> >>
> >> So I won't dismiss Rocky's claims of "nukes" being used that day, even
> >> if I can not prove it.
> >> Especially since the feds were so concerned about making all the debris
> >> vanish, so no one else could do a proper investigation.
> >
> > It didn't vanish, idiot, there are all kinds of pics of it.
> >
> 
> 
> Yes there was,....All over Manhattan and all the way out to New 
> Jersey,.....DUST.
> But why so much dust ?
> 
> 

Gee, they were large buildings and there was a lot of drywall. 

> 
> >>
> >>
> >> There was no reason the debis couldn't have been stored somewhere in
> >> the US, where proper impartial forensic investigations could be done.
> >
> > No more investigation was needed.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Well, since the government claimed they had all the proof and knew the whole 
> story hours after 9/11 occurred but never tried to even stop it.
> That alone warrants a further investigation.

Why the buildings came down is no mystery to the sane. There's no reason 
at all to keep the debris sitting around. 

> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >> Particularly with the debris from WTC 7, which had no logical reason to
> >> collapse.
> >
> > In reality, it had a lot of reasons, but in trooferland, I suppose it
> > didn't.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Not hit by any "planes", and no outwardly visible structural damage,.... but 
> it collapsed completely just the same.


Um, you forget(Conveniently as all Trofers do of the damage down at the 
lower corner. 

> 
> So please tell us all these "reasons" you speak of.

Damage to the corner.
Fire burning uncontrolled for many hours.

Building fall down, go boom.

WTF is wrong with you?

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >>
> >> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
> >> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
> >
> > BS. As ususal for a gullible troofer
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Citations,....I'm waiting
> 
> 

Just google it, kOOk. The only claim you can truthfully make is that the 
WTC towers were the first high rise steel buildings to collapse. Part of 
that was due to their construction, and the rest was simply a lack of 
firefighting, you know, that water stuff?

> 
> 
> >
> >> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were
> >> owned by the same person.
> >
> > Leased by the same person. Who lost a shitload of money.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> And poor "Pull It" Silverstein never got ANY insurance payments ?,.....how 
> about DOUBLE + what the buildings actually were worth.

Still obsessed over his comment to the FIRE DEPARTMENT about pulling the 
FIRE FIGHTING EFFORT? Since when does the FIRE DEPARTMENT "pull" 
buildings?

> And since then anyone paying for insurance pays a little more to cover the 
> payouts of 9/11

Your understanding about how insurance works is about the same as your 
understanding of building construction. Non existent.

> 
> Your lack of actual facts is proving how much of an ignorant sheeple you 
> are.
> But one day the government will deem you "surplus expendable baggage", and 
> turn you into their next false flag statistic.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! Your fantasies amuse me to no end. You calling someone a 
"sheeple" is too funny, when you're a gullible Troofer idiot who 
apparently skipped all her science classes.

> 
> Read up about the "thanks" the seal team that allegedly took out Osama got 
> when the helicopter carrying them mysteriously crashed weeks later.
> Dead men tell no tales, huh ?

Conspiracies everywhere. The Troofer/kOOk way.

-- 
BDK: Head Government Shill, and future Psychotronic World Dominator. 
Master of Remote Viewing. Level 5 expert in kOOkStudies.
Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former 
Black Helicopter color consultant.

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#517160

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 06:02:50 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
wrote:

[...]

>>> So I won't dismiss Rocky's claims of "nukes" being used that day, even
>>> if I can not prove it.
>>> Especially since the feds were so concerned about making all the debris
>>> vanish, so no one else could do a proper investigation.
>>
>> It didn't vanish, idiot, there are all kinds of pics of it.
>
>
>Yes there was,....All over Manhattan and all the way out to New 
>Jersey,.....DUST.
>But why so much dust ?
>

     It was appropriate for the amount of drywall and concrete in each
building.

>>> There was no reason the debis couldn't have been stored somewhere in
>>> the US, where proper impartial forensic investigations could be done.
>>
>> No more investigation was needed.
>
>
>Well, since the government claimed they had all the proof and knew the whole 
>story hours after 9/11 occurred but never tried to even stop it.
>That alone warrants a further investigation.
>

     How do you propose anyone could have stopped something AFTER it
happened?
     And you wonder why mentally stable people do not believe you.

>>> Particularly with the debris from WTC 7, which had no logical reason to
>>> collapse.
>>
>> In reality, it had a lot of reasons, but in trooferland, I suppose it
>> didn't.
>
>Not hit by any "planes", and no outwardly visible structural damage,.... but 
>it collapsed completely just the same.

      Both towers were hit by a single plane each. A lot of outwardly
visible structural damage can bee seen in videos and pictures.
      We couldn't see the damage to the support columns inside, of
course.
 
>
>So please tell us all these "reasons" you speak of.
>

     Damage to the supports was great enough that they finally gave
way, causing both towers to collapse.

>>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>>
>> BS. As ususal for a gullible troofer
>
>Citations,....I'm waiting

     As are we. As of the time I write this, you've not offered even
one credible cite for any claim you've made. Not even one.

>
>>> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were
>>> owned by the same person.
>>
>> Leased by the same person. Who lost a shitload of money.
>
>And poor "Pull It" Silverstein never got ANY insurance payments ?,.....how 
>about DOUBLE + what the buildings actually were worth.

     Your cite for this?

>And since then anyone paying for insurance pays a little more to cover the 
>payouts of 9/11

     Only if they have a policy with the same insurance company. Or do
you really think All State policy owners' rates went up?

>
>Your lack of actual facts is proving how much of an ignorant sheeple you 
>are.

     Your use of projection makes me laugh.

>But one day the government will deem you "surplus expendable baggage", and 
>turn you into their next false flag statistic.
>

     Another conspiracy rant? Sweet.
     Please elaborate.

>Read up about the "thanks" the seal team that allegedly took out Osama got 
>when the helicopter carrying them mysteriously crashed weeks later.
>Dead men tell no tales, huh ?

     Gee, people in the military, who are all a part of the same unit,
died together. This is more the norm in times of battle. But the
mentally ill, such as yourself, are unable to understand this.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#517217

Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

K Wills (Shill #3), in
<news:4llttad96l0io0ng8b195un4ql9rkpck8v@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
first into the wood chipper again:

> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 06:02:50 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
> wrote:

>> But one day the government will deem you "surplus expendable baggage", and 
>> turn you into their next false flag statistic.

> Another conspiracy rant? Sweet.
> Please elaborate.

I've got a conspiracy rant that'll leave these kooks reeling... it
might even be convincing enough to set one of them off on a new
kookout. It's complete bullshit, but gullible boobs will believe
anything.

Larry Silverstein, the reputed organized crime figure, leased the WTC
for 99 years just a couple years prior to 9/11/2001. The WTC was a
huge money loser for NYC due to high vacancy and a court order to
perform asbestos abatement... the cost of which would have run higher
than the buildings were worth. Silverstein knew this prior to leasing
it.

Silverstein, being Jewish, knew people in Israel, who knew people in
Saudi Arabia... desperate people who would do anything for money and a
chance at those 72 virgins, including killing themselves so their
families have money. And doing all that while striking at the very
heart of "The Great Satan"? Fuggetaboutit.

That's why the "Dancing Israelis" were there recording it, to ensure
Silverstein could collect the insurance, and to ensure they and the
families of the men hijacking the planes got their cut. They were
dancing because they were about to get paid their finder's fee for
finding the hijackers... with a contracted bonus because the buildings
came down. Silverstein was just hoping to get them condemned, but if
he could get them demolished in one fell swoop, that would have been
even better... no demolition to pay for.

Knowing about the gold in the basement and having access to all areas
of his building, Silverstein arranged for all that gold to be moved
out before the buildings "collapsed"... but not from explosives or
nukes or thermite... they weakened the structure with fire, then
"pulled" it with cables.

Then Silverstein sued the insurance company for double indemnity
because two planes struck the towers, sold the gold on the
international market, paid off the families of the hijackers and those
who hired the hijackers (the dancing Israelis) and walked away with
billions.

Let's see the conspiracy kooks top that.

<snicker>

-- 

------------------------------------
Michael Scott Guthrie (aka Rocky)
336-643-6611
6913 Maynard Road
Summerfield, NC 27358-9206

Now that everyone knows who you are, they can get you the psychiatric
help you so desperately need. Perhaps they could call your mother
Paula S. Guthrie, given that you're in your 30's and you still live at
home with mommy... and Grandma Martha. LOL

Your brother Scott certainly won't be happy to know you're
embarrassing the Guthrie family name, how's he gonna find real estate
clients if everyone knows the Guthries are a pack of schizo kooks? LOL

Just how many backwoods redneck hillbillies can fit in one small 1200
sf 3bd/1.5 ba house?! Does RockyRetard share a bedroom with his
brother? Or do they make Grandma Martha sleep on the porch? LOL
------------------------------------

Michael Guthrie (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in
trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain
becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate
(which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes
larger and larger leaps of illogic.

For instance:
=============================
A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video
*you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they
must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you
believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed
over the concrete and walked away for 33 years.

B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the
satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and
the tower falling being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but
kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil
composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never
mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today,
let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your
kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at
some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the
nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was
"dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years".

C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic
replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally
radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon,
which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken
brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the
triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to
change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped
the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an
entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service
personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back
into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words).

D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your
original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite
uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you
k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an
EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs,
so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in
rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke
detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out
electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no
nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the
vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC.

E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried
deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up
your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but
somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that
the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that
miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding,
in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that
your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of
*solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL

F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your
broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to
underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first
because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but
for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to
your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite
uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time
the buildings fell, which is pretty much where we started. So I've
proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of
sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL

G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your
broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a
desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility...
saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath
the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode,
where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive
metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the
vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why
did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not
just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the
WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP")
and the shaking and collapse of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole
seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL

H) Your brain becoming more and more broken, in just one short day it
moved from G) above to now telling you there are *more* than 34 nukes.
Where does your broken brain stop, Ko0k? Billions of intelligent
nano-nukes covering every metal surface of the twin towers? Robot
"crisis actors" able to withstand the extreme radiation? All of NYC
being blow up, replaced by a CGI that we all are fooled by today? LOL

IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from
reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And
the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little
tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very
best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot
with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even
worked up a sweat yet.
=============================

Kook. LOL

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#517355

On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 18:54:07 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:

>Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>
>K Wills (Shill #3), in
><news:4llttad96l0io0ng8b195un4ql9rkpck8v@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
>first into the wood chipper again:
>
>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 06:02:50 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
>> wrote:
>
>>> But one day the government will deem you "surplus expendable baggage", and 
>>> turn you into their next false flag statistic.
>
>> Another conspiracy rant? Sweet.
>> Please elaborate.
>
>I've got a conspiracy rant that'll leave these kooks reeling... it
>might even be convincing enough to set one of them off on a new
>kookout. It's complete bullshit, but gullible boobs will believe
>anything.
>
>Larry Silverstein, the reputed organized crime figure, leased the WTC
>for 99 years just a couple years prior to 9/11/2001. The WTC was a
>huge money loser for NYC due to high vacancy and a court order to
>perform asbestos abatement... the cost of which would have run higher
>than the buildings were worth. Silverstein knew this prior to leasing
>it.
>
>Silverstein, being Jewish, knew people in Israel, who knew people in
>Saudi Arabia... desperate people who would do anything for money and a
>chance at those 72 virgins, including killing themselves so their
>families have money. And doing all that while striking at the very
>heart of "The Great Satan"? Fuggetaboutit.
>
>That's why the "Dancing Israelis" were there recording it, to ensure
>Silverstein could collect the insurance, and to ensure they and the
>families of the men hijacking the planes got their cut. They were
>dancing because they were about to get paid their finder's fee for
>finding the hijackers... with a contracted bonus because the buildings
>came down. Silverstein was just hoping to get them condemned, but if
>he could get them demolished in one fell swoop, that would have been
>even better... no demolition to pay for.
>
>Knowing about the gold in the basement and having access to all areas
>of his building, Silverstein arranged for all that gold to be moved
>out before the buildings "collapsed"... but not from explosives or
>nukes or thermite... they weakened the structure with fire, then
>"pulled" it with cables.
>
>Then Silverstein sued the insurance company for double indemnity
>because two planes struck the towers, sold the gold on the
>international market, paid off the families of the hijackers and those
>who hired the hijackers (the dancing Israelis) and walked away with
>billions.
>
>Let's see the conspiracy kooks top that.
>
><snicker>

     You forgot one part. All the Jews who worked at the WTC were
warned not to show up on 9/11.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#517369

Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

K Wills (Shill #3), in
<news:9ncvta175tl7dl1tpk4rgg9n88ngtmhsh8@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
first into the wood chipper again:

> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 18:54:07 +0200 (CEST), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
> Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:

>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>> 
>> K Wills (Shill #3), in
>> <news:4llttad96l0io0ng8b195un4ql9rkpck8v@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
>> first into the wood chipper again:

>>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 06:02:50 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
>>> wrote:

>>>> But one day the government will deem you "surplus expendable baggage", and 
>>>> turn you into their next false flag statistic.

>>> Another conspiracy rant? Sweet.
>>> Please elaborate.

>> I've got a conspiracy rant that'll leave these kooks reeling... it
>> might even be convincing enough to set one of them off on a new
>> kookout. It's complete bullshit, but gullible boobs will believe
>> anything.
>> 
>> Larry Silverstein, the reputed organized crime figure, leased the WTC
>> for 99 years just a couple years prior to 9/11/2001. The WTC was a
>> huge money loser for NYC due to high vacancy and a court order to
>> perform asbestos abatement... the cost of which would have run higher
>> than the buildings were worth. Silverstein knew this prior to leasing
>> it.
>> 
>> Silverstein, being Jewish, knew people in Israel, who knew people in
>> Saudi Arabia... desperate people who would do anything for money and a
>> chance at those 72 virgins, including killing themselves so their
>> families have money. And doing all that while striking at the very
>> heart of "The Great Satan"? Fuggetaboutit.
>> 
>> That's why the "Dancing Israelis" were there recording it, to ensure
>> Silverstein could collect the insurance, and to ensure they and the
>> families of the men hijacking the planes got their cut. They were
>> dancing because they were about to get paid their finder's fee for
>> finding the hijackers... with a contracted bonus because the buildings
>> came down. Silverstein was just hoping to get them condemned, but if
>> he could get them demolished in one fell swoop, that would have been
>> even better... no demolition to pay for.
>> 
>> Knowing about the gold in the basement and having access to all areas
>> of his building, Silverstein arranged for all that gold to be moved
>> out before the buildings "collapsed"... but not from explosives or
>> nukes or thermite... they weakened the structure with fire, then
>> "pulled" it with cables.
>> 
>> Then Silverstein sued the insurance company for double indemnity
>> because two planes struck the towers, sold the gold on the
>> international market, paid off the families of the hijackers and those
>> who hired the hijackers (the dancing Israelis) and walked away with
>> billions.
>> 
>> Let's see the conspiracy kooks top that.
>> 
>> <snicker>

> You forgot one part. All the Jews who worked at the WTC were
> warned not to show up on 9/11.

You're absolutely correct. Larry Silverstein himself said he'd been
having breakfast every day at Windows on the World restaurant... but
had a "dermatologist appointment" that day. Convenient coincidence.

In fact, a *lot* of people didn't show up that day... a movie was even
made about it. 50,000 people worked in those towers... many more
should have died if they'd all shown up.

The 4,000 Jews Rumor
<http://web.archive.org/web/20070211085836/http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/14-260933.html>

And the funny thing is, this whackadoodle conspiracy theory is loads
more plausible than any the kooks have come up with.

<snicker>

-- 

------------------------------------
Michael Scott Guthrie (aka Rocky)
336-643-6611
6913 Maynard Road
Summerfield, NC 27358-9206

Now that everyone knows who you are, they can get you the psychiatric
help you so desperately need. Perhaps they could call your mother
Paula S. Guthrie, given that you're in your 30's and you still live at
home with mommy... and Grandma Martha. LOL

Your brother Scott certainly won't be happy to know you're
embarrassing the Guthrie family name, how's he gonna find real estate
clients if everyone knows the Guthries are a pack of schizo kooks? LOL

Just how many backwoods redneck hillbillies can fit in one small 1200
sf 3bd/1.5 ba house?! Does RockyRetard share a bedroom with his
brother? Or do they make Grandma Martha sleep on the porch? LOL
------------------------------------

Michael Guthrie (aka Rocky), your brain is grasping at straws in
trying to avoid admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain
becomes more and more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate
(which utterly demolishes your kook conspiracy theory), it makes
larger and larger leaps of illogic.

For instance:
=============================
A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video
*you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they
must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you
believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed
over the concrete and walked away for 33 years.

B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the
satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and
the tower falling being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but
kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil
composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never
mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today,
let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your
kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at
some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the
nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was
"dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years".

C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic
replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally
radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon,
which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken
brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the
triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to
change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped
the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an
entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service
personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back
into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words).

D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your
original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite
uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you
k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an
EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs,
so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in
rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke
detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out
electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no
nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the
vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC.

E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried
deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up
your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but
somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that
the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that
miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding,
in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that
your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of
*solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL

F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your
broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to
underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first
because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but
for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to
your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite
uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time
the buildings fell, which is pretty much where we started. So I've
proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of
sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL

G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your
broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a
desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility...
saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath
the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode,
where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive
metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the
vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why
did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not
just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the
WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP")
and the shaking and collapse of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole
seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL

H) Your brain becoming more and more broken, in just one short day it
moved from G) above to now telling you there are *more* than 34 nukes.
Where does your broken brain stop, Ko0k? Billions of intelligent
nano-nukes covering every metal surface of the twin towers? Robot
"crisis actors" able to withstand the extreme radiation? All of NYC
being blow up, replaced by a CGI that we all are fooled by today? LOL

IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from
reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And
the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little
tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very
best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot
with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even
worked up a sweat yet.
=============================

Kook. LOL

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#517004 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BKD is BAD

"BDK" <Control@Worldcontrol.com> wrote in message 
news:MPG.3046778bae5850dd98c240@news.giganews.com...
> In article <mrhvee$kav$1@dont-email.me>, fakename@nomail.invalid says...
>>
>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>> > On 25/08/2015 14:17, Bast wrote:
>> >> Tony Dragon wrote:
>> >>> On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
>> >>>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter 
>> >>>> if
>> >>>> the Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really matters is
>> >>>> we were given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about what really
>> >>>> brought the Twin Towers down.
>> >>>
>> >>> About turn.
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder
>> >>>> bullshit and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war 
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> based on
>> >>>> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the
>> >>>> testing that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows
>> >>>> better than
>> >>>> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse
>> >>>> Initiation hypothesis."
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes
>> >>>> were used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore
>> >>>> the fact that NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.
>> >>>
>> >>> But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It most certainly was.
>> >> The first responders that died were never included as "9/11 
>> >> casualties"
>> >>
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkNn6Huko0
>> >>
>> >> And were also dismissed as "kooks",...yet THEY WERE THERE.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > What were they reported as then?
>> >
>> > I am sure that there has been lists of for example fire service
>> > casualties.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Not according to the US federal government.
>> As they would have to answer questions of why so many of the 9/11 first
>> responders are now dead with cancer.
>>
>> Much like after Hiroshima the victims years later were never considered
>> "casualties".
>>
>> So I won't dismiss Rocky's claims of "nukes" being used that day, even if 
>> I
>> can not prove it.
>> Especially since the feds were so concerned about making all the debris
>> vanish, so no one else could do a proper investigation.
>
> It didn't vanish, idiot, there are all kinds of pics of it.

Keep going because the photos prove the remains of the Twin Towers are 
consistent with Nuclear Controlled Demoltions and not jet fuel fires.  <G>
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg


>> There was no reason the debis couldn't have been stored somewhere in the 
>> US,
>> where proper impartial forensic investigations could be done.
>
> No more investigation was needed.

We were never given a single valid investigation into what cause the Twin 
Towers to fall a such a rate.  The Crap from NIST was full of outright lies 
and the government should ask for their money back.


>> Particularly with the debris from WTC 7, which had no logical reason to
>> collapse.
>
> In reality, it had a lot of reasons, but in trooferland, I suppose it
> didn't.

You are such a television set hugger that you can't even say what you 
believe.  Plus you will never try to support your bullshit with a link 
because you've see how quickly those links can backfire on the Television 
Set Huggers.


>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>
> BS. As ususal for a gullible troofer

Well, I for one can give you an example of one building that burned for a 
lot longer than the Twin Towers and remained standing so I could see it in 
person the next morning.  See:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Interstate_Tower_fire


>> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were 
>> owned
>> by the same person.
>
> Leased by the same person. Who lost a shitload of money.

Riiight too bad he made out like a thief afterwards.

Rocky 

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#517060 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BKD is BAD

In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
> Keep going because the photos prove the remains of the Twin Towers are 
> consistent with Nuclear Controlled Demoltions and not jet fuel fires.  <G>

When a nuclear device explodes, it creates a huge and unique seismic
signature that can be detected by a seismograph anywhere on the planet.

There were no nuclear seismic signatures detected on 9/11 by any
seismograph anywhere in the world but the collapse of the two towers
as well as the crashes at the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania were detected
by nearby seismographs as the slight disturbances (less than 2 on the
Richter scale) that rational people would expect from such events.

A 1 kiloton explosion registers at about 4 on the Richter scale, a
fact that is widely known and trivial to verify.

Seismographs are trivial to make and since the invention of the PC it
has been trivial to record, store and analyze seismic data.

Real time seismic data from around the world is publicly available
on the Internet from many government, academic, and private sources.

Such data is not controlled by anyone; not the media and not any
governmental agency.

This alone is enough to disprove any nuclear devices were used on 9/11.

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/seismic.html

Be sure to follow all links in the links provided.

<snip remaining kook babble>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#517236 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED BKD is BAD

On 8/26/2015 9:47 AM, Rocky wrote:















                                                   <snip lies>

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#516927

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:53:43 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
wrote:

>Tony Dragon wrote:
>> On 25/08/2015 14:17, Bast wrote:
>>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>>> On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
>>>>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter if
>>>>> the Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really matters is
>>>>> we were given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about what really
>>>>> brought the Twin Towers down.
>>>>
>>>> About turn.
>>>>
>>>>> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder
>>>>> bullshit and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war is
>>>>> based on
>>>>> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the
>>>>> testing that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows
>>>>> better than
>>>>> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse
>>>>> Initiation hypothesis."
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes
>>>>> were used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore
>>>>> the fact that NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.
>>>>
>>>> But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.
>>>
>>> It most certainly was.
>>> The first responders that died were never included as "9/11 casualties"
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkNn6Huko0
>>>
>>> And were also dismissed as "kooks",...yet THEY WERE THERE.
>>
>> What were they reported as then?
>>
>> I am sure that there has been lists of for example fire service
>> casualties.
>
>
>Not according to the US federal government.
>As they would have to answer questions of why so many of the 9/11 first 
>responders are now dead with cancer.
>

     How many are now dead from (I presume you meant from) cancer? 

>Much like after Hiroshima the victims years later were never considered 
>"casualties".
>

     Since when?

>So I won't dismiss Rocky's claims of "nukes" being used that day, even if I 
>can not prove it.

     Since, as Rocky has proved, no nukes were used, it would be
impossible to prove they were.

>Especially since the feds were so concerned about making all the debris 
>vanish, so no one else could do a proper investigation.
>

     I await your valid, verifiable evidence that the feds held such a
concern. If you're lying, you'll offer only avoidance, if you offer
anything at all.

>
>There was no reason the debis couldn't have been stored somewhere in the US, 
>where proper impartial forensic investigations could be done.
>Particularly with the debris from WTC 7, which had no logical reason to 
>collapse.

     Other than structural failure, of course. 

>
>NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or 
>since,  totally collapsed due to fire.

     Or during.
     It wasn't just the fires that cause the collapse. But you know
that.

>And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were owned 
>by the same person.

     Yep. And 100% of the available evidence shows no foul play of any
sort was involved.
     You are, of course, still free to provide any and all valid,
verifiable evidence you have that any part of what actually happened
did not happen.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#516972

K Wills (Shill #3) wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:53:43 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>> On 25/08/2015 14:17, Bast wrote:
>>>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>>>> On 24/08/2015 17:20, Rocky wrote:
>>>>>> gilber34 you are a complete idiot because it doesn't really matter
>>>>>> if the Twin Towers were nuked or not because all that really
>>>>>> matters is we were given complete and udder bullshit by NIST about
>>>>>> what really brought the Twin Towers down.
>>>>>
>>>>> About turn.
>>>>>
>>>>>> NIST doest not have one fact to support their complete and udder
>>>>>> bullshit and yet our whole policy that gets us in to war after war
>>>>>> is based on
>>>>>> believing the absolute bullshit that NIST gave us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin Ryan, one of the people in the following videos was in on the
>>>>>> testing that NIST did on the steel from the Twin Towers.  He knows
>>>>>> better than
>>>>>> anybody that the test NIST ran did not support their "Collapse
>>>>>> Initiation hypothesis."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are pissed because I go so far as to say both CGIs and Nukes
>>>>>> were used in Nuke York City I can handle that but for you to ignore
>>>>>> the fact that NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED is another issue entirely.
>>>>>
>>>>> But in the past you have said that the casualty list was fabricated.
>>>>
>>>> It most certainly was.
>>>> The first responders that died were never included as "9/11
>>>> casualties"
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmkNn6Huko0
>>>>
>>>> And were also dismissed as "kooks",...yet THEY WERE THERE.
>>>
>>> What were they reported as then?
>>>
>>> I am sure that there has been lists of for example fire service
>>> casualties.
>>
>>
>> Not according to the US federal government.
>> As they would have to answer questions of why so many of the 9/11 first
>> responders are now dead with cancer.
>>
>
>     How many are now dead from (I presume you meant from) cancer?
>
>> Much like after Hiroshima the victims years later were never considered
>> "casualties".
>>
>
>     Since when?
>
>> So I won't dismiss Rocky's claims of "nukes" being used that day, even
>> if I can not prove it.
>
>     Since, as Rocky has proved, no nukes were used, it would be
> impossible to prove they were.
>
>> Especially since the feds were so concerned about making all the debris
>> vanish, so no one else could do a proper investigation.
>>
>
>     I await your valid, verifiable evidence that the feds held such a
> concern. If you're lying, you'll offer only avoidance, if you offer
> anything at all.
>
>>
>> There was no reason the debis couldn't have been stored somewhere in
>> the US, where proper impartial forensic investigations could be done.
>> Particularly with the debris from WTC 7, which had no logical reason to
>> collapse.
>
>     Other than structural failure, of course.
>
>>
>> NO other time in history has ANY steel framed building, before 9/11 or
>> since,  totally collapsed due to fire.
>
>     Or during.
>     It wasn't just the fires that cause the collapse. But you know
> that.
>
>> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were
>> owned by the same person.
>
>     Yep. And 100% of the available evidence shows no foul play of any
> sort was involved.
>     You are, of course, still free to provide any and all valid,
> verifiable evidence you have that any part of what actually happened
> did not happen.






All the evidence is out there for you and anyone reading this, to look at.

http://www.ae911truth.org

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#517161

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 06:05:41 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
wrote:

[...]

>>> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were
>>> owned by the same person.
>>
>>     Yep. And 100% of the available evidence shows no foul play of any
>> sort was involved.
>>     You are, of course, still free to provide any and all valid,
>> verifiable evidence you have that any part of what actually happened
>> did not happen.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>All the evidence is out there for you and anyone reading this, to look at.
>
>http://www.ae911truth.org

     I requested valid evidence. 
     Will you offer any, or continue to prove you lack the ability to
see bunk when it's handed to you?

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#517639 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too

"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:alltta59osi326lhvl0vvqr710r5ch1u4g@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 06:05:41 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were
>>>> owned by the same person.
>>>
>>>     Yep. And 100% of the available evidence shows no foul play of any
>>> sort was involved.
>>>     You are, of course, still free to provide any and all valid,
>>> verifiable evidence you have that any part of what actually happened
>>> did not happen.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>All the evidence is out there for you and anyone reading this, to look at.
>>
>>http://www.ae911truth.org
>
>     I requested valid evidence.
>     Will you offer any, or continue to prove you lack the ability to
> see bunk when it's handed to you?

As I recall you ran from the following videos the last time and you will 
probably run again too.  <G>

The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W

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#517650 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too

In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
> As I recall you ran from the following videos the last time and you will 
> probably run again too.  <G>

No one cares about or is going to waste the time watching your youtube
videos, you bat shit crazy lunatic.



-- 
Jim Pennino

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#517662 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too

<jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
news:1539bc-taf.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>
>> As I recall you ran from the following videos the last time and you will
>> probably run again too.  <G>
>
> No one cares about or is going to waste the time watching your youtube
> videos, you bat shit crazy lunatic.

And your explaination for why the top 100 floors of the Twin Towers did not 
crush the bottom of the Twin Towers is what?  See:
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

Here, let me give you some help:
Only deep underground nukes could vaporize the top 100 floors of the Twin 
Towers and leave what they did in the photo above.  <G>

BTW the nukes didn't vaporize the entire Twin Towers at once because a 
treaty limited them to 150 kt so they just waited for the top to fall down 
and then it vaporized that part too.

Rocky 

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#517669 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too

In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
> And your explaination for why the top 100 floors of the Twin Towers did not 
> crush the bottom of the Twin Towers is what?  See:

You could read the NIST report if you really want to know, kook.

<snip kook blather>

> Here, let me give you some help:
> Only deep underground nukes could vaporize the top 100 floors of the Twin 
> Towers and leave what they did in the photo above.  <G>

When a nuclear device explodes, it creates a huge and unique seismic
signature that can be detected by a seismograph anywhere on the planet.

There were no nuclear seismic signatures detected on 9/11 by any
seismograph anywhere in the world but the collapse of the two towers
as well as the crashes at the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania were detected
by nearby seismographs as the slight disturbances (less than 2 on the
Richter scale) that rational people would expect from such events.

A 1 kiloton explosion registers at about 4 on the Richter scale, a
fact that is widely known and trivial to verify.

Seismographs are trivial to make and since the invention of the PC it
has been trivial to record, store and analyze seismic data.

Real time seismic data from around the world is publicly available
on the Internet from many government, academic, and private sources.

Such data is not controlled by anyone; not the media and not any
governmental agency.

This alone is enough to disprove any nuclear devices were used on 9/11.

http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/aerospace/military/how-to-find-a-nuclear-explosion-in-north-korea
http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/seismic.html

Be sure to follow all the links in the above links.

<snip remaining kook babble>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#517672 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too

<jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
news:rc79bc-vof.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>
>> And your explaination for why the top 100 floors of the Twin Towers did 
>> not
>> crush the bottom of the Twin Towers is what?  See:
>
> You could read the NIST report if you really want to know

If I wanted to read Science Fiction I'd read Science Fiction you clown.

The fact is that none of the statements that NIST used to base their 
"Hypothetical Collapse Initiation Sequence" on where true and who would know 
that better than someone that helped NIST run some life size test?  See:

The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W

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#517677 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too

In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
> news:rc79bc-vof.ln1@mail.specsol.com...

>> You could read the NIST report if you really want to know
> 
> If I wanted to read Science Fiction I'd read Science Fiction you clown.

You have never read the NIST report, have you, you babbling, delusional
kook?

Why are you capitalizing "Science Fiction", you babbling, delusional kook?

The facts are some airliners were hijacked.

Two of them crashed into the World Trade Center towers, starting fires
which weakened the central support columns and the buildings collapesed
almost 2 hours later.

One of them crashed into the Pentagon causing a partial collapse of the
western side and one of them crashed into a field in Pennsylvania.

When a nuclear device explodes, it creates a unique seismic signature
that can be detected anywhere on the planet.

There were no nuclear seismic signatures detected on 9/11 but the 
collapse of the two towers as well as the plane crash at the Pentagon
and the crash in Pennsyvania were detected.

This alone is enough to disprove any nuclear devices were used on 9/11.

Everything else is kook babble.

That there were nuclear exposives involved is kook babble.

That there is missing rubble is kook babble.

That there has ever been a nuclear building demolition is kook babble.

That part of the buildings were vaporized is kook babble.

That part of a building was left standing proves there were nuclear
devices is kook babble.

That there was an EMP is kook babble.

That nuclear devices could be detonated underground and yet were not
seen by every seismograph in the world is kook babble.

That a failed US Government project that ended in 1973 has anything
to do with what happened is kook babble.

That the scene was radioactive is kook babble.

That there is any simularity between New York and either Hiroshima
or Nagasaki is kook babble.

That the area was called ground zero proves the event was nuclear
is kook babble.

That a nuclear bomb can be buried for decades without maintenance 
and still be expected to work is kook babble.

That non-government entities can obtain not one, but multiple nuclear
bombs is kook babble.

That there were not thousands of eyewitnesses who heard and saw the
airplanes hit the towers is kook babble.

That all the video was CGI is kook babble.

That the exterior walls were designed to deflect airplanes is kook babble.

That the exterior walls were anything other than supports for the
windows is kook babble.

That two of the aircraft landed somewhere else is kook babble.

That a shotgun works anything like an underground nuclear explosion
is kook babble.

There is nothing in an airplane that transmits the flight number to
ATC and saying the transponder does that is kook babble.

Saying a missile of any kind hit the Pentagon is kook babble.

Rantings about specially treated dirt is kook babble.

Saying people worship their television and capitalizing "television" is
kook babble.

Capitalizing things that shouldn't be capitalized is kook babble.


<snip remaining kook babble>



-- 
Jim Pennino

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#517681 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too

On 29/08/2015 17:50, Rocky wrote:
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message
> news:1539bc-taf.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> As I recall you ran from the following videos the last time and you will
>>> probably run again too.  <G>
>>
>> No one cares about or is going to waste the time watching your youtube
>> videos, you bat shit crazy lunatic.
>
> And your explaination for why the top 100 floors of the Twin Towers did not
> crush the bottom of the Twin Towers is what?  See:
>   http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
>
> Here, let me give you some help:
> Only deep underground nukes could vaporize the top 100 floors of the Twin
> Towers and leave what they did in the photo above.  <G>
>
> BTW the nukes didn't vaporize the entire Twin Towers at once because a
> treaty limited them to 150 kt so they just waited for the top to fall down
> and then it vaporized that part too.
>
> Rocky sheeple
>
>

So the underground nukes that were kept secret were yield limited by a 
treaty.

How quaint an idea.

---
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#517724 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent lies too

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:38:08 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

>"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:alltta59osi326lhvl0vvqr710r5ch1u4g@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 06:05:41 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were
>>>>> owned by the same person.
>>>>
>>>>     Yep. And 100% of the available evidence shows no foul play of any
>>>> sort was involved.
>>>>     You are, of course, still free to provide any and all valid,
>>>> verifiable evidence you have that any part of what actually happened
>>>> did not happen.
>>>
>>>All the evidence is out there for you and anyone reading this, to look at.
>>>
>>>http://www.ae911truth.org
>>
>>     I requested valid evidence.
>>     Will you offer any, or continue to prove you lack the ability to
>> see bunk when it's handed to you?
>
>As I recall you ran from the following videos the last time and you will 
>probably run again too.  <G>
>

     Seek help for your constant lying.

>The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W

     It's still bunk. And for the same reason I cited last time.
     Are you going to run away from them some more?
     How is that whole ignoring my posts thing working out for you?

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#517743 — Re: Ping gilber34: NIST LIED AND PEOPLE DIED Kent can not provide one iota of evidence

"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:p274ua1f05a61ff4fu1578e8j0ooqro84a@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:38:08 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>
>>"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:alltta59osi326lhvl0vvqr710r5ch1u4g@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 06:05:41 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>>> And yet that day 3 buildings all suffered the same fate. And all were
>>>>>> owned by the same person.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Yep. And 100% of the available evidence shows no foul play of any
>>>>> sort was involved.
>>>>>     You are, of course, still free to provide any and all valid,
>>>>> verifiable evidence you have that any part of what actually happened
>>>>> did not happen.
>>>>
>>>>All the evidence is out there for you and anyone reading this, to look 
>>>>at.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.ae911truth.org
>>>
>>>     I requested valid evidence.
>>>     Will you offer any, or continue to prove you lack the ability to
>>> see bunk when it's handed to you?
>>
>>As I recall you ran from the following videos the last time and you will
>>probably run again too.  <G>
>>
>
>     Seek help for your constant lying.
>
>>The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W
>
>     It's still bunk.

And as usual for the Television Set Huggers you can't provide one iota of 
evidence to support your bullshit.  <G>

I will say this though.  The exact location of the pools of molten metal is 
very important because if they were under WTC3 and WTC4 then it helps prove 
they were from the deep underground nukes that finished off the Twin Towers, 
WTC3, WTC7 and Fiterman Hall..
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

Rocky 

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