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Re: Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot'

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First post2016-07-02 13:15 -0700
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  Re: Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot' Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-02 13:15 -0700
    Re: Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot' jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:59 +0000
      Re: Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot' Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-07-03 14:16 -0700
        Re: Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot' The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-07-03 15:26 -0700
    Re: Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot' ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 18:24 -0500
    Re: Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot' Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 21:50 -0500

#587675 — Re: Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot'

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-07-02 13:15 -0700
SubjectRe: Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot'
Message-ID<cf226aef-55ac-430e-b573-d1e7210aecb0@googlegroups.com>
On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 11:57:27 PM UTC-7, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot'
> 
> The Washington Post
> Thursday, June 30, 2016
> 
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tesla-driver-killed-in-crash-while-using-cars-autopilot/2016/06/30/29d740b6-3f22-11e6-9e16-4cf01a41decb_story.html
> 
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
> 
> http://bit.do/jaimaharaj


Engaging an autopilot is no excuse for being asleep at the wheel!

Double-A

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#587721

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 22:59 +0000
Message-ID<qjtl4d-t4j.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587675
Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 11:57:27 PM UTC-7, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>> Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot'
>> 
>> The Washington Post
>> Thursday, June 30, 2016
>> 
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tesla-driver-killed-in-crash-while-using-cars-autopilot/2016/06/30/29d740b6-3f22-11e6-9e16-4cf01a41decb_story.html
>> 
>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> Om Shanti
>> 
>> http://bit.do/jaimaharaj
> 
> 
> Engaging an autopilot is no excuse for being asleep at the wheel!
> 
> Double-A

The interesting part will be how the courts decide liablity when self
driving cars cause death, destruction, and general mayhem, and they will.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#587855

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-07-03 14:16 -0700
Message-ID<0f89ce38-8eb6-4fe2-b24f-0f8443d06d48@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587721
On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 4:01:06 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 11:57:27 PM UTC-7, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> >> Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot'
> >> 
> >> The Washington Post
> >> Thursday, June 30, 2016
> >> 
> >> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tesla-driver-killed-in-crash-while-using-cars-autopilot/2016/06/30/29d740b6-3f22-11e6-9e16-4cf01a41decb_story.html
> >> 
> >> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> Om Shanti
> >> 
> >> http://bit.do/jaimaharaj
> > 
> > 
> > Engaging an autopilot is no excuse for being asleep at the wheel!
> > 
> > Double-A
> 
> The interesting part will be how the courts decide liablity when self
> driving cars cause death, destruction, and general mayhem, and they will.
>  
> 
> -- 
> Jim Pennino


I don't know how companies can dare to put those cars on the road at this time.  Unless and until legislation is passed limiting the liability of the manufacturers, as far as I can see, they are totally on the hook far anything that goes wrong.  Strict liability would apply!

Double-A

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#587866

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-07-03 15:26 -0700
Message-ID<5779912B.200A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#587855
Double-A wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 4:01:06 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> > > On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 11:57:27 PM UTC-7, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> > >> Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot'
> > >>
> > >> The Washington Post
> > >> Thursday, June 30, 2016
> > >>
> > >> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tesla-driver-killed-in-crash-while-using-cars-autopilot/2016/06/30/29d740b6-3f22-11e6-9e16-4cf01a41decb_story.html
> > >>
> > >> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > >> Om Shanti
> > >>
> > >> http://bit.do/jaimaharaj
> > >
> > >
> > > Engaging an autopilot is no excuse for being asleep at the wheel!
> > >
> > > Double-A
> >
> > The interesting part will be how the courts decide liablity when self
> > driving cars cause death, destruction, and general mayhem, and they will.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jim Pennino
> 
> I don't know how companies can dare to put those cars on the road at this time.  Unless and until legislation is passed limiting the liability of the manufacturers, as far as I can see, they are totally on the hook far anything that goes wrong.  Strict liability would apply!
> 
> Double-A


the auto-Pilot wasn't killed. 

if the tesla guy had autopilot on...he wasn't the driver...he was a
passenger.


would you let a woman drive you or an autopilot?

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#587729

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-02 18:24 -0500
Message-ID<mktx4pko6eey$.d5moay1jg3vs.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587675
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 13:15:13 -0700 (PDT), Double-A
wrote:

> On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 11:57:27 PM UTC-7, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>> Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot'
>> 
>> The Washington Post
>> Thursday, June 30, 2016
>> 
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tesla-driver-killed-in-crash-while-using-cars-autopilot/2016/06/30/29d740b6-3f22-11e6-9e16-4cf01a41decb_story.html
>> 
>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> Om Shanti
>> 
>> http://bit.do/jaimaharaj
> 
> 
> Engaging an autopilot is no excuse for being asleep at the wheel!
> 
> Double-A

Crappy software, again.

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#587757

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-07-02 21:50 -0500
Message-ID<nl9uj0$14d3$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#587675
On 7/2/2016 3:15 PM, Double-A wrote:
> On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at 11:57:27 PM UTC-7, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>> Tesla driver killed in crash while using car's 'Autopilot'
>>
>> The Washington Post
>> Thursday, June 30, 2016
>>

>>

>
>
> Engaging an autopilot is no excuse for being asleep at the wheel!
>
> Double-A
>

they said the on board radar has problems resolving 0 speed, which all 
radars have, too bad they did not have a real engineer involved

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