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some new geophysics:: with gravity=magnetism we have Lines of Force from Sun that cause some geophysics

Started byArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
First post2019-02-28 19:42 -0800
Last post2019-03-07 12:21 -0800
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  some new geophysics:: with gravity=magnetism we have Lines of Force from Sun that cause some geophysics Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2019-02-28 19:42 -0800
    Re: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-03-01 06:31 +0000
      Re: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-03-06 18:24 -0800
        Drs.Eric Akkermans, Joan Adler look into Porat Re: new wave of Jew stealing in science (because of technology of Internet) -- Technion Univ-- Porat the vanguard Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-06 23:22 -0800
    Re: some new geophysics:: with gravity=magnetism we have Lines of Force from Sun that cause some geophysics Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-01 15:05 -0800
      Re: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-03-01 23:14 +0000
      Summer—winter & redshift Re: some new geophysics:: with gravity=magnetism we have Lines of Force from Sun that cause some geophysics Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-02 07:49 -0800
        Summer—winter & redshift Re: some new geophysics:: with gravity=magnetism we have Lines of Force from Sun that cause some geophysics Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-02 08:59 -0800
          Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-02 21:25 -0800
            Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-03 10:28 -0800
              Re: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-03-04 00:51 +0000
              fake Doppler redshift and summer vs. winter Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-05 18:59 -0800
                fake Doppler redshift and summer vs. winter Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-06 08:23 -0800
                  fake Doppler redshift and summer vs. winter Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-06 17:53 -0800
                    does Halliday&Resnick cover winter,summer why? Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-06 18:18 -0800
                      page 474 Re: does Halliday&Resnick cover winter,summer why? Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-06 23:41 -0800
                        going through life as a scientist and not really understanding what causes Summer versus Winter-- shame on you  Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2019-03-07 12:21 -0800

#729704 — some new geophysics:: with gravity=magnetism we have Lines of Force from Sun that cause some geophysics

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-28 19:42 -0800
Subjectsome new geophysics:: with gravity=magnetism we have Lines of Force from Sun that cause some geophysics
Message-ID<e36a6a27-e512-493a-8f3b-4f1300cc3064@googlegroups.com>
Uranus, East pole//voltmeter to detect Re: Gravity= Magnetism and the sweet-spot and sour-spot of Earth as it orbits the Sun// Geophysics-- why continents line up as | | |

Oblateness is likely to be the biggest feature of the East-West poles of Gravity= Magnetism. 

AP 
 


me (Archimedes Plutonium change) 	
Feb 27

name them East pole and West poles, and we already have magnetic North and South poles

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 2:32:47 PM UTC-6, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: 
> Oblateness is likely to be the biggest feature of the East-West poles of Gravity= Magnetism. 
> 

I am rather confident that the fact of Gravity = EM shows up best in a property called oblateness. Where the planet shows a bulge at its equator due to the fact the disproportionate force of magnetism and electricity affect the center of the body more than periphery-- The East and West Pole are bulged while the North and South Poles are flattened. 


me (Archimedes Plutonium change) 	
3:06 AM (18 hours ago)

name them East pole and West poles, and we already have magnetic North and South poles

Not exactly what i am looking for, for i want Sun’s gravity=magnetism: 

— quote from web 
This bizarre map of Jupiter’s magnetic field reveals a Great Blue Spot (lower right) 
Moore et al/Nature 
By Andy Coghlan 

Everyone knows Jupiter’s Great Red Spot, but now it has a Great Blue Spot too. It plays a key role in operation of the planet’s uniquely-weird magnetic field, as shown in the graphic above. 

AP writes: maybe it is strange because it is really part Sun’s magnetic lines of force. 

AP 
 


me (Archimedes Plutonium change) 	
3:27 PM (6 hours ago)

Geophysics:: East pole and West poles, and we already have magnetic North and South poles

Now podal and antipodal are 180degrees such as north to south or east to west. The volcanoes of Earth line up due to Magnetism and electricity. 

Iceland lines up 180 with New Zealand & Vanuatu (glad i saw last week’s Nature on tv of Vanuatu) 

Pacific ring of volcanoes are antipodal to South America chain of volcanoes. 

Most of Earth’s intense volcanism is along the equator and north and south of the equator by 23degrees (axis of tilt) 

All of this due to the fact that Gravity is Magnetism and the energy of magnetism is most concentrated along equator Lines of Force of Sun’s magnetism upon Earth. 

Lava lakes on Vanuatu those rotational lava is following lines of magnetic force of the Sun and even contributing to some of the heat in those lava lakes 

Just as the Jupiter Red Spot with antipodal Blue spot (recent discovery) are heated up spots— because of Sun’ Magnet lines of force are most intense there— lines of force are photons mostly radio waves and magnetic monopoles and neutrinos. 

Now maybe the configuration of Jupiter’s east to west bands of clouds is evidence of Sun’s magnetic lines of force upon Jupiter. 

AP

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#729729 — Re: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2019-03-01 06:31 +0000
SubjectRe: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test
Message-ID<q5ajk5$g2g$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#729704
AlzheimerPlutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> fails at math and science:

>In the case of Generalized FLT, you have to prove two cases, that are
>independent of one another, the case of A,B,C are three evens, and the
>case where A,C are odd, B is even, two odds, one even.

Why is AlzheimerPlutonium such a cripple of logic that he can't even
understand that you just have to divide by two to get a new pronlem? How
did he ever catch verbal cholera so that he spews so much failure here?

I'll help him out a little. Here is a wheelchair for his logic crippled
brain.

🧠
♿




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#730761 — Re: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2019-03-06 18:24 -0800
SubjectRe: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test
Message-ID<6683c295-19cd-4459-b46e-a97f18bbde8e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#729729
On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 8:31:36 AM UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> AlzheimerPlutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> fails at math and science:
> 
> >In the case of Generalized FLT, you have to prove two cases, that are
> >independent of one another, the case of A,B,C are three evens, and the
> >case where A,C are odd, B is even, two odds, one even.
> 
> Why is AlzheimerPlutonium such a cripple of logic that he can't even
> understand that you just have to divide by two to get a new pronlem? How
> did he ever catch verbal cholera so that he spews so much failure here?
> 
> I'll help him out a little. Here is a wheelchair for his logic crippled
> brain.
> 
> 🧠
> ♿
> 
> 
> 
> 
> x-no-archive: yes
================================
see
the   y circlon mechanism
mass is the creator of all forces 
including   gravity!!

===============
TIA
Y.P
=================

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#730800 — Drs.Eric Akkermans, Joan Adler look into Porat Re: new wave of Jew stealing in science (because of technology of Internet) -- Technion Univ-- Porat the vanguard

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2019-03-06 23:22 -0800
SubjectDrs.Eric Akkermans, Joan Adler look into Porat Re: new wave of Jew stealing in science (because of technology of Internet) -- Technion Univ-- Porat the vanguard
Message-ID<10afee5c-d050-4e36-837f-f97ea530871e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#730761
On Wednesday, March 6, 2019 at 8:25:00 PM UTC-6, por...@gmail.com wrote:

> ================================
> see
> the   y circlon mechanism
> mass is the creator of all forces 
> including   gravity!!
> 
> ===============
> TIA
> Y.P
> =================


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Re: ++Drs.Eric Akkermans, Joan Adler look into Porat Re: new wave of Jew stealing in science (because of technology of Internet) -- Technion Univ-- Porat the vanguard



pora...@gmail.com



12/25/17



On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 3:25:07 AM UTC+2, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: 
> ++Drs.Eric Akkermans, Joan Adler look into Porat Re: new wave of Jew stealing in science (because of technology of Internet) -- Technion Univ-- Porat the vanguard 
======================= 
better see 
http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract 
and get more knowledgeable 
including its appendix !! 
2 
tank you psycho archi 
for promoting me ... 
Y.POrat 
=========================== 






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#729846

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2019-03-01 15:05 -0800
Message-ID<53876b0c-6d33-48fb-9a29-ebae5aab5de6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#729704
Now I do remember the Jupiter Red Spot is hot from its surroundings, suggesting that the flow of Magnetic lines of force from the Sun is causing much of this heat.

On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 9:42:39 PM UTC-6, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Uranus, East pole//voltmeter to detect Re: Gravity= Magnetism and the sweet-spot and sour-spot of Earth as it orbits the Sun// Geophysics-- why continents line up as | | |
> 
> Oblateness is likely to be the biggest feature of the East-West poles of Gravity= Magnetism. 
> 
> AP 
>  
> 
> 
> me (Archimedes Plutonium change) 	
> Feb 27
> 
> name them East pole and West poles, and we already have magnetic North and South poles
> 
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 2:32:47 PM UTC-6, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: 
> > Oblateness is likely to be the biggest feature of the East-West poles of Gravity= Magnetism. 
> > 
> 
> I am rather confident that the fact of Gravity = EM shows up best in a property called oblateness. Where the planet shows a bulge at its equator due to the fact the disproportionate force of magnetism and electricity affect the center of the body more than periphery-- The East and West Pole are bulged while the North and South Poles are flattened. 
> 
> 
> me (Archimedes Plutonium change) 	
> 3:06 AM (18 hours ago)
> 
> name them East pole and West poles, and we already have magnetic North and South poles
> 
> Not exactly what i am looking for, for i want Sun’s gravity=magnetism: 
> 
> — quote from web 
> This bizarre map of Jupiter’s magnetic field reveals a Great Blue Spot (lower right) 
> Moore et al/Nature 
> By Andy Coghlan 
> 
> Everyone knows Jupiter’s Great Red Spot, but now it has a Great Blue Spot too. It plays a key role in operation of the planet’s uniquely-weird magnetic field, as shown in the graphic above. 
> 
> AP writes: maybe it is strange because it is really part Sun’s magnetic lines of force. 
> 
> AP 
>  
> 
> 
> me (Archimedes Plutonium change) 	
> 3:27 PM (6 hours ago)
> 
> Geophysics:: East pole and West poles, and we already have magnetic North and South poles
> 
> Now podal and antipodal are 180degrees such as north to south or east to west. The volcanoes of Earth line up due to Magnetism and electricity. 
> 
> Iceland lines up 180 with New Zealand & Vanuatu (glad i saw last week’s Nature on tv of Vanuatu) 
> 
> Pacific ring of volcanoes are antipodal to South America chain of volcanoes. 
> 
> Most of Earth’s intense volcanism is along the equator and north and south of the equator by 23degrees (axis of tilt) 
> 
> All of this due to the fact that Gravity is Magnetism and the energy of magnetism is most concentrated along equator Lines of Force of Sun’s magnetism upon Earth. 
> 
> Lava lakes on Vanuatu those rotational lava is following lines of magnetic force of the Sun and even contributing to some of the heat in those lava lakes 
> 
> Just as the Jupiter Red Spot with antipodal Blue spot (recent discovery) are heated up spots— because of Sun’ Magnet lines of force are most intense there— lines of force are photons mostly radio waves and magnetic monopoles and neutrinos. 
> 
> Now maybe the configuration of Jupiter’s east to west bands of clouds is evidence of Sun’s magnetic lines of force upon Jupiter. 
> 
> AP

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#729849 — Re: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2019-03-01 23:14 +0000
SubjectRe: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test
Message-ID<q5cec8$qs3$4@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#729846
AlzheimerPlutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> fails at math and science:

>>Autistic Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> fails at math:


MM writes: never any math, never any physics from Plutonium, only stalk
stalk hatred for 26 years


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#729930 — Summer—winter & redshift Re: some new geophysics:: with gravity=magnetism we have Lines of Force from Sun that cause some geophysics

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2019-03-02 07:49 -0800
SubjectSummer—winter & redshift Re: some new geophysics:: with gravity=magnetism we have Lines of Force from Sun that cause some geophysics
Message-ID<6cbd6d70-d2a2-411a-9ca2-eff2a24f24cf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#729846
Quoting a gov website:

During the summer, the sun's rays hit the Earth at a steep angle. The light does not spread out as much, thus increasing the amount of energy hitting any given spot. Also, the long daylight hours allow the Earth plenty of time to reach warm temperatures.

During the winter, the sun's rays hit the Earth at a shallow angle. These rays are more spread out, which minimizes the amount of energy that hits any given spot. Also, the long nights and short days prevent the Earth from warming up. Thus, we have winter!

 AP writes: this is a physics fact we all think we know well and fully, but in reality, we understand little of it. It relates directly to Gravity = Magnetism and the Lines of Force in EM theory. Furthermore it debunks the fakery of Doppler Redshift of light that so much of astronomy distance measure is based upon. Fools of physics and astronomy with their Doppler Redshift as “motion of the source” those foolish idiots would have to say that summer on Earth is no Doppler shift while winter is a Doppler shift. When we all know motion of source— Sun — has nothing to do with what causes summer and winter. But try explaining that to the dumb physicist, dumb astronomer, that a shift in wavelength is explained as simply what angle the ray is observed by the Observer and not by the “Motion of Source” from whence the light came.

AP

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#729937 — Summer—winter & redshift Re: some new geophysics:: with gravity=magnetism we have Lines of Force from Sun that cause some geophysics

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2019-03-02 08:59 -0800
SubjectSummer—winter & redshift Re: some new geophysics:: with gravity=magnetism we have Lines of Force from Sun that cause some geophysics
Message-ID<326e0c63-42b6-481d-a86d-caf4464b0a16@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#729930
Now the reason i bring this up is to use on physics and astronomy professors— very very ignorant in logic and science. There is a old saying about leading a mule to water. Here it applies to leading a ignorant physicist or astronomer to the truth. When a person is brainwashed and polluted with Doppler redshift as “caused by motion of source”

Then you have to find the very best true physics that can lead the ignorant physicist and astronomer out of his/her delusions and fantasy.

What causes winter and summer is that teaching aid.

AP

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#730048 — Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2019-03-02 21:25 -0800
SubjectPhotons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter
Message-ID<2eb5edc1-84a2-4df7-9b18-4984c9b33cb5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#729937
So let us drill into this physics a bit.

A spot on Earth where photons collide with if the angle of strike is 90 degree we have summer— is angle is small not much is absorbed on the spot— winter. Is the portion that is reflected— is it redshifted?? If redshifted then it explains Doppler Redshift is merely the amount of scattering the light has been subjected to, not distance. This is good in terms of mapping galaxies— for they then all form Rings in Jarretts Caltech plot.

AP

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#730114 — Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2019-03-03 10:28 -0800
SubjectPhotons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter
Message-ID<6543054f-64f7-4a6e-aa62-a57df0c9099b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#730048
I certainly have never seen any physicist even attempt to correlate light waves making summer/winter and their kook bozo Doppler Redshift. Maybe too much time eating their fruitcakes.

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#730210 — Re: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2019-03-04 00:51 +0000
SubjectRe: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test
Message-ID<q5hsr1$6ds$5@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#730114
AlzheimerPlutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> fails at math and science:

>On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 4:18:56 PM UTC-6, Michael Moroney wrote: 
>> Alzheimer Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> fails at math and science:

>Yes, Moroney why are they Alzheimer stupid at Reed College over the ellipse???

Oh you really like seeing that ellipse proof! Here it is!


Below you will find a simple *proof* that shows that certain conic 
sections are ellipses.

Some preliminaries:

Top view of the conic section and depiction of the coordinate system used 
in the proof:

              ^ x
              |
             -+- <= x=h
         .'   |   `.
        .     |     .
        |     |     |
        '     |     '      
         `.   |   .'
 y <----------+ <= x=0
             
Cone (side view):
                 .
                /|\
               / | \
              /b |  \
             /---+---' <= x = h
            /    |'   \
           /   ' |     \
          / '    |      \
x = 0 => '-------+-------\
        /    a   |        \

Proof:

r(x) = a - ((a-b)/h)x  and  d(x) = a - ((a+b)/h)x,  hence

y(x)^2 = r(x)^2 - d(x)^2 = ab - ab(2x/h - 1)^2 = ab(1 - 4(x - h/2)^2/h^2.

Hence (1/ab)y(x)^2 + (4/h^2)(x - h/2)^2 = 1  ...equation of an ellipse

qed

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#730621 — fake Doppler redshift and summer vs. winter Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2019-03-05 18:59 -0800
Subjectfake Doppler redshift and summer vs. winter Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter
Message-ID<89413a5b-b826-47ea-8d7d-ed81a01c4bbf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#730114
On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 12:28:06 PM UTC-6, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> I certainly have never seen any physicist even attempt to correlate light waves making summer/winter and their kook bozo Doppler Redshift. Maybe too much time eating their fruitcakes.

I need to drill down some more on this idea of summer and winter caused by direct hit of sunlight and slanted hit at 23degrees sunlight.

I have to examine it far more because I feel there are more science secret truths to this fact and that they relate intimately with the fake-doppler-redshift.

AP

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#730695 — fake Doppler redshift and summer vs. winter Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2019-03-06 08:23 -0800
Subjectfake Doppler redshift and summer vs. winter Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter
Message-ID<d7b985e2-666c-429f-82c1-fadc5ce9e2bc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#730621
Now i wonder, i just wonder if astronomers would take Doppler Redshifts of known galaxies on the height of Summer— sometime in July in northern hemisphere then take a reading in the dead of winter of that same galaxy Doppler Redshift and find vastly different different readings. Because Doppler Redshift of light is phony fake science.

Just as summer is direct light wave impact while winter is a shallow angle impact. Doppler Redshift is likely to be the measurement of angle of impact on telescope, not distance of galaxy.

So try out that experiment.

AP

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#730753 — fake Doppler redshift and summer vs. winter Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2019-03-06 17:53 -0800
Subjectfake Doppler redshift and summer vs. winter Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter
Message-ID<a5cf2712-8f1f-4fc3-8a17-0a34ac848b2c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#730695
Quoting wtamu.edu
When a region of land is tilted towards the sun in the summer, that means that the sun spends more time higher in the sky and the sunlight received by that spot of land is more direct. In contrast, when that spot on the earth is tilted away from the sun in the winter, the sun is in general lower in the sky, and it receives less direct sunlight. Less direct sunlight means that the sunlight is coming in at a low angle, so that it is smeared across a greater area when it hits the surface. Because it is smeared over a greater area, winter sunlight has less power per unit area, and therefore heats the earth less, leading to cold winter.

AP writes: i need a physics analysis a level below the above where we dispense with “smeared across a greater area”

AP

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#730760 — does Halliday&Resnick cover winter,summer why? Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2019-03-06 18:18 -0800
Subjectdoes Halliday&Resnick cover winter,summer why? Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter
Message-ID<0771ee67-fb28-4afa-a264-69deae1fda6c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#730753
On Wednesday, March 6, 2019 at 7:53:18 PM UTC-6, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Quoting wtamu.edu
> When a region of land is tilted towards the sun in the summer, that means that the sun spends more time higher in the sky and the sunlight received by that spot of land is more direct. In contrast, when that spot on the earth is tilted away from the sun in the winter, the sun is in general lower in the sky, and it receives less direct sunlight. Less direct sunlight means that the sunlight is coming in at a low angle, so that it is smeared across a greater area when it hits the surface. Because it is smeared over a greater area, winter sunlight has less power per unit area, and therefore heats the earth less, leading to cold winter.
> 
> AP writes: i need a physics analysis a level below the above where we dispense with “smeared across a greater area”
> 

So I need a level of physics that is perhaps one or two or three rungs of level lower than the above, so I get rid of terms like "more direct", "smeared across a greater area". I need the physics of light waves or light rays and the surface area of Earth's ground as impact.

Is there reflection of part of the ray, a single light ray when coming in at a shallow angle, and little no reflection of a single light ray at the equator.

You would think this physics is covered in Halliday& Resnick freshman physics, and let me see if they do cover it.

AP

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#730802 — page 474 Re: does Halliday&Resnick cover winter,summer why? Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2019-03-06 23:41 -0800
Subjectpage 474 Re: does Halliday&Resnick cover winter,summer why? Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter
Message-ID<05ff9493-73e4-4eab-9056-3ce003d41079@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#730760
Now Halliday & Resnick, FUNDAMENTALS OF PHYSICS, 3rd edition, 1988, pages 474 and 475 begin to discuss this idea that the winter and summer are due to the radiation of the Sun at different angles of incident.

--- quoting H&R, page 474 ---
The average temperature of our earth, for example, levels off at about 300K because at that temperature the earth radiates energy into space at the same rate that it receives it from the sun; see Fig.12. If the temperature of the earth were--by some miracle-- to change suddenly from 300K to 280K or to 320K, it would quickly either warm up or cool down to 300K, restoring its nice thermal balance.
--- end quote--

AP writes: So here we get the feeling that we have to drop down even more levels of physics. From what started with a Winter-- Summer explanation of that of direct hit of radiation to a 23degree tilt shallow hit of radiation, has now turned into even more theory.

The reason I am diving into the heart of this physics, is because no-one has done so before, and I believe, the best way to dispose of the phony fakery of a Doppler Redshift of light waves-- is the explanation of Summer and Winter.

AP

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#730833 — going through life as a scientist and not really understanding what causes Summer versus Winter-- shame on you Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2019-03-07 12:21 -0800
Subjectgoing through life as a scientist and not really understanding what causes Summer versus Winter-- shame on you Re: Photons incident at 90degree —summer and incident at 23degree —winter
Message-ID<abe0713b-7ea8-4629-9595-f997e1a24adb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#730802
On Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 1:41:20 AM UTC-6, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Now Halliday & Resnick, FUNDAMENTALS OF PHYSICS, 3rd edition, 1988, pages 474 and 475 begin to discuss this idea that the winter and summer are due to the radiation of the Sun at different angles of incident.
> 
> --- quoting H&R, page 474 ---
> The average temperature of our earth, for example, levels off at about 300K because at that temperature the earth radiates energy into space at the same rate that it receives it from the sun; see Fig.12. If the temperature of the earth were--by some miracle-- to change suddenly from 300K to 280K or to 320K, it would quickly either warm up or cool down to 300K, restoring its nice thermal balance.
> --- end quote--
> 
> AP writes: So here we get the feeling that we have to drop down even more levels of physics. From what started with a Winter-- Summer explanation of that of direct hit of radiation to a 23degree tilt shallow hit of radiation, has now turned into even more theory.
> 
> The reason I am diving into the heart of this physics, is because no-one has done so before, and I believe, the best way to dispose of the phony fakery of a Doppler Redshift of light waves-- is the explanation of Summer and Winter.
> 

Now it would be a shame going through life as a scientist and not really knowing the truth about what causes summer versus winter. And the truth about the physics nature of these two very different seasons. So we get the explanation of the 23degree Earth tilt, is absolutely fine and correct. But then we get many many nonscience minds filling in what causes winter. Ideas like "direct hit" like "shallow angle" and such as "smeared across a greater area" causes us to worry that the true truth of summer versus winter was never really given. That this physics of Summer versus Winter is another mistake in science comparable to the idiocy mistake in mathematics that the ellipse is a conic section when it never was. The oval is the slant cut in a cone, never the ellipse. And comparable to the physics of Summer versus Winter, no-one getting at the heart of the truth. It is in this spirit that we dig deeper into the question of summer versus winter.

Now, to my logical mind, and believe you me, most people, even those within science itself, rarely have a logical mind.

So, to my logical mind, what causes Winter versus Summer is truly the 23degree tilt of axis, for we see the daytime sunlight in northern hemisphere is very brief losing as much as almost  about 5 to 6 hours of daylight whereas the southern hemisphere gains that in daylight hours.

So that would be the most logical and simple explanation. Where Winter is less of the Sun rays and Summer is more sun rays per 24 hours. Just a matter of simple math of numbers of hours of sunlight.

Now that is probably not the full total answer because Earth has an atmosphere, and that light rays likely involve reflection. So we can talk about "direct hit" and "smeared over surface area" and other concepts.

AP

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