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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2019-02-16 05:17 -0800 |
| Last post | 2019-02-21 12:30 +0000 |
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Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 05:17 -0800
Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-16 19:32 -0800
Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-17 06:53 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2019-02-17 14:50 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-17 15:54 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-18 00:31 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-17 17:08 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 14:45 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-18 17:59 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 19:19 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-18 19:32 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 13:52 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-19 04:03 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 15:03 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> - 2019-02-18 18:36 -0600
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-18 16:50 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-19 04:08 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 13:52 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-19 10:06 -0500
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 06:03 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 15:11 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 10:00 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 19:06 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 13:06 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 23:16 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 16:14 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 01:58 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-20 19:10 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-02-20 21:06 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 01:14 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 12:30 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 05:59 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 06:31 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 14:51 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 08:34 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 17:15 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 17:19 -0500
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 14:44 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 23:08 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 15:51 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-22 01:41 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 17:47 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-22 12:42 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 21:19 -0500
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-22 12:42 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 21:13 -0500
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-22 12:42 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 23:08 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 21:10 -0500
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 09:14 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 17:21 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 09:34 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 18:40 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 12:07 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 20:30 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 12:53 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 21:26 +0000
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 14:02 -0800
Re: Quasar ejected from galaxy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-02-21 12:30 +0000
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-16 05:17 -0800 |
| Subject | Quasar ejected from galaxy |
| Message-ID | <9631e63f-c067-4f62-9ead-fbd9279974ca@googlegroups.com> |
http://astronomy.com/news/2017/03/astronomers-spot-a-runaway-quasar?utm_source=asyfb&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=asyfb As I have said before, Quasars are to galaxies as photons are to excited atoms.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-16 19:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <54dd64e0-6e94-42f7-b32d-abe8352a3453@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #727599 |
Halton Arp was right
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-17 06:53 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <043a0f09-f444-4035-b31c-9468c6906362@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #727706 |
I told you guys that telescopes would lead to the truth. Halton Arp observed a pair of Quasars that were in line with a central galaxy and equally-far from it. Using their redshifts and their angle from the galaxy, he determined that they were moving in opposite directions at 1/9c. This is the ratio I use to determine electron radiation and proton spin, which will therefore be 9c. Sue me
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-17 14:50 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d6558c1e-7ad4-4b45-82b5-37966068e4b5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #727732 |
On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 6:53:18 AM UTC-8, john wrote: > I told you guys that telescopes would lead to the truth. > Halton Arp observed a pair of Quasars that were in line with a central galaxy and equally-far from it. Using their redshifts and their angle from the galaxy, he determined that they were moving in opposite directions at 1/9c. > > This is the ratio I use to determine electron radiation and proton spin, which will therefore be 9c. > > Sue me Arp may well have been right, but your trying to equate the macro to the micro is not likely. Double-A
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-17 15:54 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ed557484-8468-4765-a213-62c9858495f2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #727770 |
AA “Arp may well have been right, but your trying to equate the macro to the micro is not likely. ” It gives a better understanding of photon production in atoms. The photon accretes at the nucleus and pulls the electron arms in tighter until they suddenly achieve their next excited stage, which requires much less energy, and the arms suddenly relax. This sudden change kicks the photon out.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2019-02-18 00:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q4cudo$23n$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #727780 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >AA >"Arp may well have been right, but your trying to equate the macro = >to the micro is not likely. >" >It gives a better understanding of photon production in atoms. How so? We're discussing this quasar which was ejected from a galaxy, which has nothing to do with photon production in atoms. Other than the fact that quasars produce lots and lots of photons. >The photon accretes at the nucleus and pulls the electron arms in tighter >until they suddenly achieve their next excited stage, which requires much >less energy, and the arms suddenly relax. This sudden change kicks the photon > out. Word salad. No, k0okbabble. Pure k0okbabble.
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-02-17 17:08 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <49cc4f97-8abb-416d-ba2f-2fbf376677bc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #727780 |
On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 3:54:52 PM UTC-8, john wrote: > AA > “Arp may well have been right, but your trying to equate the macro to the micro is not likely. > ” > It gives a better understanding of photon production in atoms. > The photon accretes at the nucleus and pulls the electron arms in tighter until they suddenly achieve their next excited stage, which requires much less energy, and the arms suddenly relax. This sudden change kicks the photon out. Utter crap that John has pulled directly from his butt, without an iota of evidence. Typical from John.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-18 14:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c2e73bb5-d939-4690-8137-e2b294045873@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #727794 |
pnal “Utter crap that John has pulled directly from his butt, without an iota of evidence. ” The Galaxy Model for the Atom, which I have been presenting here since 1995, equates galaxies with atoms and quasars with photons. Unfortunately, that seems to be too difficult for some people to grasp.
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-02-18 17:59 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1fb6cf1b-4993-410e-adbc-440ef70b19df@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #727974 |
On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 2:45:26 PM UTC-8, john wrote: > pnal > “Utter crap that John has pulled directly from his butt, without an iota of evidence. ” > The Galaxy Model for the Atom, which I have been presenting here since 1995, equates galaxies with atoms and quasars with photons. No, John, it certainly does not, and you have not provided any evidence that what you preach is correct, not even close. > Unfortunately, that seems to be too difficult for some people to grasp. Unfortunately, it is YOU who does not grasp even freshman physics... and that would be high school freshmen...
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-18 19:19 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <98f532c7-2f35-4cd3-9c43-c3310b1ba803@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #727997 |
Penile “Unfortunately, it is YOU who does not grasp even freshman physics... and that would be high school freshmen... ” Like ‘point particles’? I’ll bet you’ll defend that concept. Go for it, penile. Go hard
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-02-18 19:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <15af789f-6cee-473f-ad95-f119a3bbbad0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #728005 |
On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 7:19:20 PM UTC-8, john wrote: > Penile > “Unfortunately, it is YOU who does not grasp even freshman physics... and that would be high school freshmen... ” > Like ‘point particles’? I’ll bet you’ll defend that concept. > Go for it, penile. Go hard Don't change the subject, John, we are not talking about point particles, we are talking about your bizarre "Galaxy Model for the Atom", for which you can't offer any evidence whatsoever, freshly spewed from your overactive imagination. You can shuck and jive all you want, and you can go for it, John, and you can go hard, but it is a fruitless endeavor on your part, but you still don't know what you don't know, and you just look more and more foolish as time goes by.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 13:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q4h1ml$1o6f$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #728005 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Penile > “Unfortunately, it is YOU who does not grasp even freshman physics... and > that would be high school freshmen... ” > Like ‘point particles’? I’ll bet you’ll defend that concept. > Go for it, penile. Go hard > You can’t seem to figure out the difference between “doesn’t actually happen in nature” (back to back photon emission from atoms) and “doesn’t fit with Sefton’s view if what’s possible and not possible in nature” (pointlike particles). The former is experimental evidence. The latter is what you call using Logic. Now, do you think scientists refer at all to what John Sefton thinks is possible or not possible in nature? And if not, why should they? Answer that question with all seriousness. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 04:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q4fv7d$ejs$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #727974 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >pnal >"Utter crap that John has pulled directly from his butt, without an iota >of evidence. " You insult crap pulled directly from butts, pnal. >The Galaxy Model for the Atom, which I have been presenting here since 1995, >equates galaxies with atoms and quasars with photons. No predictions, no theory, no calculations, no science, no math, nothing. You don't even have a model. >Unfortunately, that seems to be too difficult for some people to grasp.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 15:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q4h5s4$deg$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #727974 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > pnal > “Utter crap that John has pulled directly from his butt, without an iota of evidence. ” > The Galaxy Model for the Atom, which I have been presenting here since > 1995, equates galaxies with atoms and quasars with photons. And unfortunately you do not seem to know what “quasar” means or what their properties are. > Unfortunately, that seems to be too difficult for some people to grasp. > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Serg Io <invvalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-18 18:36 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <q4fj26$1dcm$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #727780 |
On 2/17/2019 5:54 PM, john wrote: > AA > “Arp may well have been right, but your trying to equate the macro to the micro is not likely. > ” > It gives a better understanding of photon production in atoms. > The photon accretes at the nucleus and pulls the electron arms in tighter until they suddenly achieve their next excited stage, which requires much less energy, and the arms suddenly relax. This sudden change kicks the photon out. > like very very tiny rubber bands...
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-18 16:50 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <905fa052-f45e-4792-9733-60d733147a52@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #727988 |
Sergio “like very very tiny rubber bands... ” What happens is, photons accrete in pairs. They accrete with each of their Propagation vectors pointing towards the ‘BH’. When they get perturbed, they both flip and suddenly propagate away in opposite directions along the magnetic field perpendicular to the disc.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 04:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q4fvg8$ejs$4@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #727990 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Sergio >What happens is, photons accrete in pairs. >They accrete with each of their Propagation vectors pointing towards the 'BH'. >When they get perturbed, they both flip and suddenly propagate away in >opposite directions along the magnetic field perpendicular to the disc. The problem (just one of many) is that photons from excited atoms are not emitted in pairs, but singly.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 13:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q4h1mi$1o6f$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #727990 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Sergio > “like very very tiny rubber bands... > ” > What happens is, photons accrete in pairs. > They accrete with each of their Propagation vectors pointing towards the ‘BH’. > When they get perturbed, they both flip and suddenly propagate away in > opposite directions along the magnetic field perpendicular to the disc. > Doesn’t happen in atoms — back to back photons. Sorry. Idiot. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-19 10:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <q4h60m$ddv$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #728063 |
On 2/19/2019 8:52 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >> Sergio >> “like very very tiny rubber bands... >> ” >> What happens is, photons accrete in pairs. >> They accrete with each of their Propagation vectors pointing towards the ‘BH’. >> When they get perturbed, they both flip and suddenly propagate away in >> opposite directions along the magnetic field perpendicular to the disc. >> > > Doesn’t happen in atoms — back to back photons. Sorry. > > Idiot. > Bert Says that Photons always go in pairs.1 It's one of his best theories. It completely explains the double slit experiments. Oh Ya! Two Nobels is a given!
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-20 06:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e46ea681-7ec3-440a-8c6e-0eb24dab5fc0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #728071 |
benj “Bert Says that Photons always go in pairs.1 It's one of his best theories. It completely explains the double slit experiments. Oh Ya! Two Nobels is a given! ” Haha. These 2 go opposite directions.
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