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Precessing quasar

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2019-02-01 05:37 -0800
Last post2019-02-02 20:25 -0800
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  Precessing quasar john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-01 05:37 -0800
    Re: Precessing quasar moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-01 14:16 +0000
      Re: Precessing quasar john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-01 06:28 -0800
        Re: Precessing quasar moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-02-01 16:20 +0000
          Re: Precessing quasar john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-02-01 14:05 -0800
    Re: Precessing quasar mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-02-02 20:25 -0800

#725499 — Precessing quasar

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-01 05:37 -0800
SubjectPrecessing quasar
Message-ID<cf6ea447-fd89-41a8-8b66-f635e1a7c8c4@googlegroups.com>
Now isn’t this interesting.

https://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/pdf/2011/02/aa14968-10.pdf
Results. We found a period in multi-frequency total flux-density light curves of 7.9 ± 0.5 yrs. Moreover, a quasi-stationary jet component C1 follows a prominent helical path on a similar timescale of eight years. We have also found that the average instantaneous speeds of the jet components show a clear helical pattern along the jet with a characteristic scale of 3 mas. Taking into account average speeds of jet components, this scale corresponds to a timescale of about 7.7 years. Jet precession can explain the helical path of the quasi-stationary jet component C1 and the periodical modulation of the total flux-density light curves. We have fitted a precession model to the trajectory of the jet component C1, with a viewing angle φ0 = 2.6◦ ± 2.2◦, aperture angle of the precession cone Ω = 23.9◦ ± 1.9◦ and fixed precession period (in the observers frame) P = 7.9 yrs.

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#725503

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2019-02-01 14:16 +0000
Message-ID<q31kba$ihq$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#725499
And you consider this notable, why?

GR predicts accretion disk precession if the disk rotational axis is not the
same as that of the black hole.
The jets follow the disk's axis at the time of emission.

Do take note that nothing ever gets all retarded and precesses 360 degrees
in aa 2:1 ratio or anything dumb like that. The disk precession is usually
a dozen or so degrees, like a wobbly top.

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#725504

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-01 06:28 -0800
Message-ID<3d3f585b-c548-4e9e-bb1a-ec33c8988abe@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#725503
MM
“take note that nothing ever gets all retarded and precesses 360 degrees 
in aa 2:1 ratio or anything dumb like that. The disk precession is usually 
a dozen or so degrees, like a wobbly top. ”
How have you seen this?

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#725510

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2019-02-01 16:20 +0000
Message-ID<q31rjl$ehu$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#725504
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"take note that nothing ever gets all retarded and precesses 360 degrees
>in aa 2:1 ratio or anything dumb like that. The disk precession is usually
>a dozen or so degrees, like a wobbly top. "
>How have you seen this?
>
I have seen many articles on corkscrew jets from AGN and quasars that mention
the precession of the accretion disk causing it. Including some posted here
by yourself as you yelled "Look!!! Precessing spinny things!!!"

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#725547

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-01 14:05 -0800
Message-ID<9c707bfb-3106-4158-8902-24899edc124c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#725510
MM
“I have seen many articles on corkscrew jets from AGN and quasars that mention 
the precession of the accretion disk causing it. Including some posted here 
by yourself as you yelled "Look!!! Precessing spinny things!!!" ”
Mmm hmmm. Nobody has seen up close what’s happening. Some people seem to reject the idea that the whole disc rotates AND precesses, for some reason.
I guess cause they were told that’s impossible and they believe everything they’re told. Baaaa!!

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#725746

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2019-02-02 20:25 -0800
Message-ID<d2bb44c1-d699-41e2-945e-e9474b37a370@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#725499
Quasars have no special place...
Science cannot have it both ways.

Quasars are not an universal edge.
Science has known there is no center
for there to be any edge...???


Quasars are equally distributed and
have a cosmic distance redshift everywhere
and a maximum gravitational redshift by
their most massive Neutronium core.


God creates gravity.

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