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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2019-01-11 16:55 -0800 |
| Last post | 2019-01-19 15:12 +0000 |
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Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 16:55 -0800
Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-11 17:02 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-11 19:43 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-12 04:36 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 05:12 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 15:27 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:11 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-12 22:23 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-12 14:34 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 00:33 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 18:46 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 12:40 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 11:48 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 21:05 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 14:17 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 22:24 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 15:38 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-14 01:05 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 16:52 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 22:34 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 15:36 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 16:49 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-14 01:01 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-14 00:57 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 22:40 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 10:13 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-12 17:29 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-12 11:06 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-12 20:42 +0100
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-11 21:24 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 00:20 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2019-01-18 14:04 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-18 18:44 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2019-01-19 12:40 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-18 20:21 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2019-01-19 12:42 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Earle Jones <earledjones@icloud.com> - 2019-01-19 12:54 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-19 05:39 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-18 22:15 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-19 07:00 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-19 01:22 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-19 15:12 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-19 16:52 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-19 09:28 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-19 16:22 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-19 11:39 -0500
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-20 20:50 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 07:01 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 15:18 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-21 09:26 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 11:38 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-21 12:13 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 14:45 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-21 16:16 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 17:11 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-21 17:43 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 17:14 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-21 17:30 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-21 17:52 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-21 18:07 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-21 20:05 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-21 20:37 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 07:03 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 07:40 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 08:05 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 16:11 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 09:14 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 13:04 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-22 14:13 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 00:09 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-22 15:42 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 16:27 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-22 17:05 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 20:39 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-22 20:53 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 21:19 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 05:33 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 21:43 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-22 21:50 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 02:10 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 11:20 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-23 20:33 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 05:24 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 10:20 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 10:41 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-25 19:05 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-25 18:56 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 13:18 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 23:32 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-25 12:20 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 13:21 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 23:32 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-25 19:39 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 23:19 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 12:53 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 14:25 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2019-01-27 11:42 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 09:56 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-26 19:13 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 23:32 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-25 16:49 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-26 01:05 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-23 11:20 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-22 20:48 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-22 20:54 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole "Chris M. Thomasson" <ahh_f_it@crap.nothing> - 2019-01-22 19:33 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-22 20:41 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 12:52 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 05:38 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-22 15:37 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-21 17:51 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-19 01:31 -0800
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-19 16:37 +0000
Re: Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-19 15:12 +0000
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-11 16:55 -0800 |
| Subject | Another RAPIDLY spinning black hole |
| Message-ID | <5f88bdc6-3fbf-42f7-8d29-940db77bfa19@googlegroups.com> |
http://www.astronomy.com/news/2019/01/astronomers-clock-a-black-hole-spinning-at-half-the-speed-of-light Half the speed of light will probably shred matter
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-11 17:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <db63fbea-f973-42d0-ba26-50b4746d0807@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #723100 |
http://www.astronomy.com/news/2019/01/astronomers-clock-a-black-hole-spinning-at-half-the-speed-of-light Actually, they say it could be faster.
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-01-11 19:43 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d49a01cf-bc8d-4571-af2a-029d626f4030@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #723101 |
On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 5:02:11 PM UTC-8, john wrote: > http://www.astronomy.com/news/2019/01/astronomers-clock-a-black-hole-spinning-at-half-the-speed-of-light > Actually, they say it could be faster. How would we see gravity rotate? No. God creates gravity. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2019-01-12 04:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q1bqt6$qtr$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #723100 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >http://www.astronomy.com/news/2019/01/astronomers-clock-a-black-hole-spinning-at-half-the-speed-of-light And... ?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-12 05:12 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1dee9f8f-3e45-4d0b-9c42-2904b44c14f8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #723115 |
MM “john <johnse...@gmail.com> writes: >http://www.astronomy.com/news/2019/01/astronomers-clock-a-black-hole-spinning-at-half-the-speed-of-light And..?” Black holes are SPINNING SPACE. Space is composed of the next-size Fractal Matter down (and all the smaller-gauge ones). These smaller gauges of matter CAN spin at those speeds. Ours can’t.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-12 15:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q1d10i$2uj$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #723135 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > MM > “john <johnse...@gmail.com> writes: > >> http://www.astronomy.com/news/2019/01/astronomers-clock-a-black-hole-spinning-at-half-the-speed-of-light >> > > And..?” > > Black holes are SPINNING SPACE. > Space is composed of the next-size Fractal Matter down (and all the smaller-gauge ones). > These smaller gauges of matter CAN spin at those speeds. Ours can’t. > Well, I’m pretty sure they didn’t say any of that. I’m a little intrigued by your claim that matter can’t spin at high speeds. What makes you say that? Let me put it another way. What do you think holds matter together? And what is the limit of that binding force? -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-12 14:11 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f36c5455-22c7-4474-a13d-43f7cc129ae9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #723140 |
Odd “What do you think holds matter together?” I think that negative charges are attracted to positive charges.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2019-01-12 22:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q1dpch$82a$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #723201 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >"What do you think holds matter together?" >I think that negative charges are attracted to positive charges. So what holds the sun together? With the enormous pressures involved, why doesn't the sun just go poof as a giant cloud of gas?
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2019-01-12 14:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9d576191-e702-4a62-b398-07bb5a50b33a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #723201 |
On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-8, john wrote: > Odd > “What do you think holds matter together?” > I think that negative charges are attracted to positive charges. Learn something for once, John... http://wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/2013/05/22/why-is-gravity-the-strongest-force/ ... you can read, right?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-13 00:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q1e0vv$ikp$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #723201 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “What do you think holds matter together?” > I think that negative charges are attracted to positive charges. > Well that’s interesting because you think attractive forces are impossible. But let’s take it as revelation on your part. So what is the strength of that attraction that spinning at high speed will break that maximum attraction? -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-12 18:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <8f66ddb8-c7f8-49c2-8886-a7e4332ee6d4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #723219 |
Odd “So what is the strength of that attraction that spinning at high speed will break that maximum attraction? ” If you turn an electron in a circle, you get a magnetic field at right angles. If there is a proton also turning in the same circle, it will produce the opposite field. What do you suppose will then happen, Odd?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-13 12:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q1fbjq$5fi$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #723227 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “So what is the strength of that attraction that spinning at high speed will > break that maximum attraction? ” > If you turn an electron in a circle, you get a magnetic field at right angles. > If there is a proton also turning in the same circle, it will produce the opposite field. > What do you suppose will then happen, Odd? > The fields will cancel. Why? What do you think will happen? If I whirl a rubber ball around my head, are you saying there are magnetic fields generated? Where? Are they measurable? -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-13 11:48 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f66dd442-6b6c-4ab5-ab04-0a4226c887ae@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #723247 |
Odd “The fields will cancel. ” So, when two opposite magnets are right against each other, the fields ‘cancel’? They don’t push each other apart? Gee- I must be misremembering something
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-13 21:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q1g96j$e66$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #723258 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “The fields will cancel. ” > So, when two opposite magnets are right against each other, the fields ‘cancel’? > They don’t push each other apart? > Gee- I must be misremembering something > Well yeah, kinda. First of all, it’s like poles that repel. Secondly, the magnetic field due to a circling charge does not emanate from the charge. It is in fact strongest near the center of the circle the charge is circumnavigating and is zero where the charge actually is. You can find pictures of this. So if you have a circulating electron and a circulating proton in the same orbit, will they repel each other away from the plane of the orbit magnetically? No. Third, let’s compare your idea with common sense. A little wooden ball is filled full of zillions of protons and electrons. So put the wooden ball on the end of a string and whirl it. According to you, the protons and electrons that are all going around in the same circle are going to push each other away, so that one side of the ball becomes positively charged and the other side becomes negatively charged. So, does this actually happen in real life? Does it happen with tires? Does it happen with turbine blades? Does it happen with a metal axle? Anyplace? -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-13 14:17 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c23037bf-275a-4ca6-b1ab-186fa0fb72d4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #723267 |
Odd “First of all, it’s like poles that repel. ” Opposite magnetic fields are pointed in opposite directions- so, yes, their ‘like’ poles will be facing each other. You have SO MUCH difficulty with English- no wonder you can’t describe your model verbally. Those stars whirling around the BH are shredded. What do YOU think causes that? They get dizzy and ‘swarm’? :)
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-13 22:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q1gdrp$13e9$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #723271 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “First of all, it’s like poles that repel. ” > Opposite magnetic fields are pointed in opposite directions- so, yes, > their ‘like’ poles will be facing each other. > You have SO MUCH difficulty with English- no wonder you can’t describe your model verbally. > > Those stars whirling around the BH are shredded. > What do YOU think causes that? They get dizzy and ‘swarm’? > :) > That’s obvious John, and it’s even talked about in those papers you mention but don’t read. Infalling matter heats up as it approaches the horizon. And before it gets there, that superheated matter radiates high energy gammas and X-rays. And that blasts surrounding matter, just like gamma radiation therapy for cancer blasts biological tissue. Just twenty or thirty orders of magnitude more intense. And did you note the other problems with your idea? By the way, oppositely directed magnetic FIELDS do not push each other. The magnets do, but the fields cancel. Look at a diagram of the field around two bar magnets. What’s the strength of the field along a line between those poles? You should be able to read it from the field line diagram. Remember I taught you how to read those? -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-13 15:38 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c85f870f-e146-44ca-ba26-a0a4080964fa@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #723272 |
Odd “Infalling matter heats up as it approaches the horizon. And before it gets there, that superh” So superheating matter causes it to blast away at right angles to the spin that heats it. Gotcha
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2019-01-14 01:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q1gn8r$j2j$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #723282 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >"Infalling matter heats up as it approaches the horizon. And before it gets >there, that superh" >So superheating matter causes it to blast away at right angles to the spin >that heats it. >Gotcha All the stuff in the disk is colliding at extreme velocities. The mechanism is complicated but matter is ejected outward from the face of the disk mostly near the hole and GR effects and magnetic fields confine the matter to jets.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-14 16:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q1ienr$31f$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “Infalling matter heats up as it approaches the horizon. And before it gets > there, that superh” > So superheating matter causes it to blast away at right angles to the spin that heats it. > Gotcha > Huh? Look at solar flares and prominences. Fusion and gravitational compression superheats the gases which exerts an outward pressure in that gas. But the path of the mass so heated is tightly constrained by local magnetic fields (which are NOT the source of the outward pressure on the heated matter), which is why you see them in arches and filaments rather than just blasting outward. Don’t oversimplify. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-13 22:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <q1ged8$15t9$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “First of all, it’s like poles that repel. ” > Opposite magnetic fields are pointed in opposite directions- so, yes, > their ‘like’ poles will be facing each other. > You have SO MUCH difficulty with English- no wonder you can’t describe your model verbally. If it helps, John, let’s correct one simple misconception. Around a pair of permanent magnets, there is ONE magnetic field. At any point in the space around the magnets, you can calculate THE magnetic field as the sum of contributions from the two magnets, but it’s still ONE field. This is explained in the basic books you never read. > > Those stars whirling around the BH are shredded. > What do YOU think causes that? They get dizzy and ‘swarm’? > :) > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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