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11:23:15 stalker Moroney wrote: > Math Failure..//Steven Weinberg,Peter Higgs,Sheldon Glashow,Murray-GellMann,Edward Witten, never learned what Angular Momentum was

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  11:23:15 stalker Moroney wrote: > Math Failure..//Steven Weinberg,Peter Higgs,Sheldon Glashow,Murray-GellMann,Edward Witten, never learned what Angular Momentum was Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 15:10 -0800
    11:23:15 stalker Moroney wrote: > Math Failure..//Steven Weinberg,Peter Higgs,Sheldon Glashow,Murray-GellMann,Edward Witten, never learned what Angular Momentum was john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 20:21 -0800
      Re: 11:23:15 stalker Moroney wrote: > Math Failure..//Steven Weinberg,Peter Higgs,Sheldon Glashow,Murray-GellMann,Edward Witten, never learned what Angular Momentum was Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 21:13 -0800
        Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-30 16:04 +0000
          Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 13:03 -0800
            Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 01:25 +0000
              Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 17:54 -0800
                Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 02:42 +0000
                  Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:13 -0800
                    Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 22:31 +0000
                      Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:59 -0800
                        Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 00:02 +0000
                          Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 16:31 -0800
                            Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 01:47 +0000
                              Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 18:17 -0800
                                Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 16:33 +0000

#721495 — 11:23:15 stalker Moroney wrote: > Math Failure..//Steven Weinberg,Peter Higgs,Sheldon Glashow,Murray-GellMann,Edward Witten, never learned what Angular Momentum was

11:23:15 stalker Moroney wrote: > Math Failure..//Steven Weinberg,Peter Higgs,Sheldon Glashow,Murray-GellMann,Edward Witten, never learned what Angular Momentum was

On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 11:23:15 AM UTC-6, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Math Failure


Moroney has a big dumb stalker mouth that defends failed physicists, for here is an example that Moroney is a moron in even simple math-- he can't even do a percentage correctly.

Moroney math failure, here is where the fool thinks 938 is short of 945 by 12%, and he pretends he is an electrical engineer. Perhaps the first e.e. in the world that cannot do a percentage correctly 

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 12:30:22 AM UTC-6, Michael Moroney wrote: 
  
 > Silly boy, that's off by more than 12.6 MeV, or 12% of the mass of a muon. 
 > Hardly "exactly" 9 muons. 
Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 9:52:21 AM UTC-6, Michael Moroney wrote: 
  
>  Or, 938.2720813/105.6583745 = 8.88024338572.  A proton is about the mass 
 > of 8.88 muons, not 9. About 12% short. 


LIST OF Failed Physicists, in no order, going back to about 1979 when the idiocy of Standard Model of physics was in full bloom. And where no physicist back then ever truly understood what Angular Momentum was, for if you understand the concept of Angular Momentum you would realize that no chemistry can exist in a world where the proton to electron is 938MeV versus .5MeV when truly it is 840MeV to 105MeV. For the Covalent bond of chemistry such as H2 molecule to exist, you need a ratio of 8 to 1 as 840MeV to 105MeV.
And in the list below, is what I mean that in the long view of physics history, the Nobel prize has become a joke for there are more mistakes than is there actual true physics 

Steven Weinberg 
Peter Higgs 
Sheldon Glashow 
Murray-GellMann 
Edward Witten 

Rainer Weiss 
Kip S. Thorne 
Barry C. Barish 
David J. Thouless 
F. Duncan M. Haldane 
John M. Kosterlitz 
Takaaki Kajita 
Arthur B. McDonald 
Francois Englert 
Saul Perlmutter 
Brian P. Schmidt 
Adam G. Riess 
Makoto Kobayashi 
Toshihide Maskawa 
Yoichiro Nambu 
John C. Mather 
George F. Smoot 
Roy J. Glauber 
David J. Gross 
Hugh David Politzer 
Frank Wilczek 
Raymond Davis Jr. 
Masatoshi Koshiba 
Riccardo Giacconi 
Gerardus 't Hooft 
Martinus J.G. Veltman 
Jerome I. Friedman 
Henry W. Kendall 
Richard E. Taylor 
Carlo Rubbia 
Simon van der Meer 
Subramanyan Chandrasekhar 
William Alfred Fowler 
Kenneth G. Wilson 
Kai M. Siegbahn 
James Watson Cronin 
Val Logsdon Fitch 
Sheldon Lee Glashow 
Abdus Salam 
Steven Weinberg 
. 
.
little fishes
.
. 
Physical Review Letters: Proton Mass 
Yi-Bo Yang, Jian Liang, Yu-Jiang Bi, Ying Chen, Terrence Draper, Keh-Fei Liu, Zhaofeng Liu 
more and more layers of error thinking physics 
.
.
John Baez 
Brian Greene 
Lisa Randall
Alan H. Guth
Michael E. Brown
Konstantin Batygin


AP


Very crude dot picture of 5f6, 94TH 
ELECTRON=muon DOT CLOUD of 231Pu 


                ::\ ::|:: /:: 
                 ::\::|::/:: 
                     _ _ 
                    (:Y:) 
                     - - 
                 ::/::|::\:: 
                ::/ ::|:: \:: 
One of those dots is the Milky Way galaxy. And each dot represents another galaxy. 
            . \ .  . | .   /. 
           . . \. . .|. . /. . 
              ..\....|.../... 
               ::\:::|::/:: 
---------------      ------------- 
--------------- (Y) ------------- 
---------------      -------------- 
               ::/:::|::\:: 
              ../....|...\... 
           . . /. . .|. . \. . 
            . / .  . | .   \ . 

  
http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ 
whole entire Universe is just one big atom 
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies 

I re-opened the old newsgroup PAU of 1990s and there one can read my recent posts without the hassle of spammers, off-topic-misfits, front-page-hogs, stalking mockers, suppression-bullies, and demonizers.      

Read my recent posts in peace and quiet.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/plutonium-atom-universe         
Archimedes Plutonium 

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#721532

Ignore the moron.
He’s just trying to live up to his name.
I’ve never heard ONE interesting post from him-

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On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 10:41:17 PM UTC-6, john wrote:
> Ignore the moron.
> He’s just trying to live up to his name.
> I’ve never heard ONE interesting post from him-

Sorry John Sefton, I just am not built like you, with a nice compassion, which I just do not have. I suppose all of us are built differently, and can share our common concerns like physics, ever so briefly.

No, for me the breaking point is 20 years of that crap that MM dished out, and so, I just could not take it one more time.

Insane slime ball needs to be served up slime

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#721559 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> writes:

>On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 10:41:17 PM UTC-6, john wrote:
>> Ignore the moron.
>> He=E2=80=99s just trying to live up to his name.
>> I=E2=80=99ve never heard ONE interesting post from him-

>Sorry John Sefton, I just am not built like you, with a nice compassion, 
>which I just do not have. I suppose all of us are built differently, and 
>can share our common concerns like physics, ever so briefly.

If you will not learn not to attack me, you will continue to be punished
for your abuse and insubordination, and I will enjoy the lemonade.

You need to learn from John. While he can be grumpy at times (like now)
esp. when he sees that his unsupported ideas are going nowhere, he does
not distract from physics by attacking everybody. I do not attack him back
since he never attacks me beyond some name calling, I just give him a few
pokes for not thinking things through.  And John seems to accept that
these discussion groups are discussion groups and does try to discuss his
ideas rather than dump them here as if dumping shit into an open sewer the 
way you do.

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#721592 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

MM
“when he sees that his unsupported ideas are going nowhere, he do”

I notice you never replied about the shielding thing.
I repeat; they didn’t take into account that since the matter itself supples the push, those bodies will also be pushing on each other

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#721647 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"when he sees that his unsupported ideas are going nowhere, he do"

>I notice you never replied about the shielding thing.

Asked and answered. Repeatedly.

A   B   C

Consider the above: Standard theory has C attracted to A and B according
to the inverse square law, according to the sum of the forces from A
and B.  Your kooky claim would have B blocking some of the effect of A
on C. For example, when a moon of Jupiter (C) passes behind Jupiter (B)
and Jupiter purportedly shields the force from the Sun (A) on the moon.
This is *not* seen, there is never any gravitational shielding.
Observations refute your shielding claim, and thus your LeSage gravity.

With Juno there now, we can time things very precisely for any deviation
from the inverse square law. This would be a huge discovery.

Despite this, you keep bringing up LeSage shielding again and again. Why
dig up a dead, rotting corpse of a theory like that?

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#721652 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

MM
“I notice you never replied about the shielding thing. 

Asked and answered. Repeatedly. 

A   B   C 

Consider the above: Standard theory has C attracted to A and B according 
to the inverse square law, according to the sum of the forces from A 
and B.  Your kooky claim would have B blocking some of the effect of A 
on C. For example, when a moon of Jupiter (C) passes behind Jupiter (B) 
and Jupiter purportedly shields the force from the Sun (A) on the moon. 
This is *not* seen, there is never any gravitational shielding. 
Observations refute your shielding claim, and thus your LeSage gravity. ”

But you realize that if the push is coming from the matter, itself, it’s no longer LeSage Gravity, right?
Each body both absorbs AND radiates.
I can see that I’ll have to walk you through why this makes a difference

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#721659 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"I notice you never replied about the shielding thing.

>Asked and answered. Repeatedly.

>A   B   C

>Consider the above: Standard theory has C attracted to A and B according
>to the inverse square law, according to the sum of the forces from A
>and B.  Your kooky claim would have B blocking some of the effect of A
>on C. For example, when a moon of Jupiter (C) passes behind Jupiter (B)
>and Jupiter purportedly shields the force from the Sun (A) on the moon.
>This is *not* seen, there is never any gravitational shielding.
>Observations refute your shielding claim, and thus your LeSage gravity. "

>But you realize that if the push is coming from the matter, itself, it's 
>no longer LeSage Gravity, right?

Doesn't matter. If matter interferes in any way with the force from a
more distant body, it doesn't match observation, so therefore it is wrong!

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#721803 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

MM
“it doesn't match observation, so therefore it is wrong! ”
You mean like Suck Gravity doesn’t match galactic rotation curves? Unless DM is invoked, but not even then because no one has yet successfully modeled it using computers? And no one has seen any DM despite 40 years of trying?
You mean like that? 

Yes, I agree Suck Gravity is wrong. You have no mechanism. It leads to phantasmagoric end scenarios like Black Holes and alternate universes. It’s stupid.
Thanks for making my point.

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#721808 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> MM
> “it doesn't match observation, so therefore it is wrong! ”
> You mean like Suck Gravity doesn’t match galactic rotation curves? Unless
> DM is invoked, but not even then because no one has yet successfully
> modeled it using computers? And no one has seen any DM despite 40 years of trying?

And how long do you think is long enough to wait before giving up? 

Higgs boson: 49 years
Neutrino: 26 years
Genetic carrier: 87 years
Gravitational waves: 100 years 
Continental drift: 52 years


> You mean like that? 
> 
> Yes, I agree Suck Gravity is wrong. You have no mechanism. It leads to
> phantasmagoric end scenarios like Black Holes and alternate universes. It’s stupid.
> Thanks for making my point.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#721814 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

A new theory that explains everything simply will sweep most of those away.
Neutrinos will stay. They’re the big brother of what actually causes gravity.
Higgs boson is useless even if it WERE right.
Genetic carrier not familiar.
Continental drift will be linked to expanding Earth, which you probably reject.

Galaxies precess, bro. When they prove that, they prove my whole model, and Standard model goes away. Could be this year.

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#721823 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> A new theory that explains everything simply will sweep most of those away.
> Neutrinos will stay. They’re the big brother of what actually causes gravity.
> Higgs boson is useless even if it WERE right.
> Genetic carrier not familiar.
> Continental drift will be linked to expanding Earth, which you probably reject.
> 
> Galaxies precess, bro. When they prove that, they prove my whole model,
> and Standard model goes away. Could be this year.
> 

I think you kinda missed my point. It’s not uncommon there’s a long time
between hypothesis and discovery. And usefulness has nothing to do with it.


-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#721826 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

Odd
“And usefulness has nothing to do with it. 
”
Well, how much was spent on the “Higgs”, and what did it buy? A DUBIOUS confirmation of Standard Model.
My point was- epicycles exist if you look at things backwards, which you are. But they all go away if you turn it around.

Galaxies are spheres. They have spherical halos. They have spherical bodies of gas that extend 1/3 of the way PAST their halos. Their discs spin and precess around within that structure. There is no other way to explain the warps, curved jets, asymmetrical GRCs without phantasmagorical things like DM.
Atoms are MOSTLY SPACE. But electrons can’t be non-movingly ‘distributed’- because sometimes they’re there and sometimes they’re not; they HAVE to be moving and cycling, like a coin spinning on the table.
I’m sure you’ll see the light someday- think about it. You’re a smart guy.
Happy New Year, Big Dog ( that was my favourite of yours)

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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “And usefulness has nothing to do with it. 
> ”
> Well, how much was spent on the “Higgs”, and what did it buy? 

Knowledge. For its own sake. Like landing a rover on Mars. Or a radio
telescope to examine galaxies we will never visit. Or digging up long-dead
dinosaurs. 

What was your point about usefulness?

> A DUBIOUS confirmation of Standard Model.
> My point was- epicycles exist if you look at things backwards, which you
> are. But they all go away if you turn it around.
> 
> Galaxies are spheres. They have spherical halos. They have spherical
> bodies of gas that extend 1/3 of the way PAST their halos. Their discs
> spin and precess around within that structure. There is no other way to
> explain the warps, curved jets, asymmetrical GRCs without phantasmagorical things like DM.

And what would be useful about that?

> Atoms are MOSTLY SPACE. But electrons can’t be non-movingly
> ‘distributed’- because sometimes they’re there and sometimes they’re not;
> they HAVE to be moving and cycling, like a coin spinning on the table.
> I’m sure you’ll see the light someday- think about it. You’re a smart guy.
> Happy New Year, Big Dog ( that was my favourite of yours)
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#721843 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

Odd
“And what would be useful about that? ”
Being able to explain things without DM?
A better understanding of how things work is ALWAYS useful.

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#721895 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “And what would be useful about that? ”
> Being able to explain things without DM?

And why is doing without DM better? 

> A better understanding of how things work is ALWAYS useful.
> 

 Exactly. Hence the other things in my list. 


-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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