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AP's thoughts of physics on 29DEC2018//battery review

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  AP's thoughts of physics on 29DEC2018//battery review Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 08:36 -0800
    Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-29 17:23 +0000
    Re: AP's thoughts of physics on 29DEC2018//battery review Mike Hunt <invalid@example.com> - 2018-12-29 13:05 -0800
    I had always thought the capacitor was separate entity from Faraday's law, I was wrong, the Capacitor is the smallest, most primitive Faradays Law Re: AP's thoughts of physics on 29DEC2018//battery review Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 14:28 -0800
      The electrolyte is the thrusting bar magnet, only it is now a thrusting pressure Re: 29DEC2018//battery review Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 14:44 -0800
        The electrolyte is the thrusting bar magnet, only it is now a thrusting pressure Re: 29DEC2018//battery review turcaudjp@gmail.com - 2018-12-29 14:54 -0800
        Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-29 23:44 +0000

#721431 — AP's thoughts of physics on 29DEC2018//battery review

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-29 08:36 -0800
SubjectAP's thoughts of physics on 29DEC2018//battery review
Message-ID<d8940f65-f2d1-4e1d-9cc3-00bb54104a67@googlegroups.com>
AP's thoughts of physics on 29DEC2018//battery review

Alright I need to review the battery when electricity is the flow of magnetic monopoles. And that static electricity is simply the monopoles fixed and static. 

So the idiocy of Old Physics that the electron inside of atoms is electricity comes to an end. For the electron is the muon and stays inside the atom almost forever and is not involved in electricity at all. The muon with its attendant proton perform the Faraday Law that creates monopoles, and these monopoles are often 0 charge photons or neutrinos but can be sometimes monopoles are either Open-charge or Closed-Charge and is the electricity. 

In High School where I learned how the battery works for the first time, I was sadly confused for I could never see how those batteries worked for a long time and not have the electrodes all gunked up with the fluid making one trip to an electrode and then corroding the entire electrode and the battery losing its life in a matter of minutes. That is the picture of Old Physics on batteries. They gloss over the fact that according to their theory-- the battery should be dead in a matter of minutes. 

But with the idea that electricity is not electrons but is monopoles attached to molecules or atoms and those attached monopoles can jump ship to the electrode and allow the neutral molecule to gain passage of another monopole-- well that theory can have a battery last for months. 

AP 

me (Archimedes Plutonium change) 	
12:00 AM (10 hours ago)

true theory of battery Re: AP's thoughts of physics on 28DEC2018// I need to review the battery in light of the fact that the magnetic monopole is the .5MeV particle for we never really understood the battery

Alright, Old Physics did a horrible job on ions, as well as Old Chemistry. The ion theory becomes more of a piggyback ride for charged-photons of .5MeV and larger. And in New Physics we have the muon with attendant proton performing Faraday's Law, so electricity is never about muons flowing to make electricity, no, never that stupid and silly picture. 

In New Physics we have these charged and uncharged Dirac magnetic monopoles that create electricity and they are either static monopoles or flowing in electricity monopoles. 

So the picture that emerges here of ions in battery is that the monopoles are riding on molecules, are static electric monopoles and once they reach the electrode, give up its passenger monopole and then head back to the other side to pick up another monopole passenger. 

And this makes a lot more common sense in terms of static electricity and flowing electricity. It also easily explains superconductivity as a static electricity just being a capacitor until the loop is closed to flow out. 

Now this also explains Dirac's ocean of positron space, for the positron was not a antielectron but merely a charged monopole. 

So, finally at last, my total unease in High School when learning how the battery works, that how could the explanation ever ever be that electrons inside of atoms or molecules flow, and why the battery can last for months yet the theory would have them drained of charge within minutes. 

Muons are the true electrons and they seldom if ever leave their atom, for they are bound up with a attendant proton doing the Faraday Law dance of creating magnetic monopoles. That means, a battery is where monopoles are being carted from one electrode to another electrode as static electricity riding a ride on a molecule. 

And, this explains why you put two sheets of metal with dielectric sandwiched in between, and you have a current coming from that set-up. Because it is flowing of monopoles, not electrons. And the monopoles are created from the atoms doing Faraday's law. 

So, to create electricity via electric generator, we build a machine that is a Faraday Law machine that created monopoles of electricity. But in a battery, all we do here is collect monopoles created by the atoms of the sheets of metal. 

In Old Physics, they thought as you thrust a bar magnet through a closed loop of wire, the magnetism is making the .5MeV electrons flow around in the wire. That is silly. 

In New Physics, when you thrust the bar magnet through the closed loop wire, what you are doing is directing the monopoles created in the atoms of the wire, directing those monopoles to flow in a specific direction, leaving the muon + proton that created the monopole virtually static. 

Under this picture, then, is one able to reconcile theory with battery long life. That electricity is a piggyback ride of monopoles. 



me (Archimedes Plutonium change) 	
12:31 AM (10 hours ago)

Electrolyte becomes the wire Re: I need to review the battery in light of the fact that the magnetic monopole is the .5MeV particle for we never really understood the battery

Now perhaps i need to modify that view for it really is silly to think the mobile monopole is riding on a slow moving molecule. So a far better picture is the electrolyte forms into a wire-chain of molecules from one electrode to the other and then the monopoles use this chain of molecules to race to the electrode. 

AP 
 


me (Archimedes Plutonium change) 	
2:21 AM (8 hours ago)

as the capacitor merges into becoming a battery Re: I need to review the battery in light of the fact that the magnetic monopole is the .5MeV particle for we never really understood the battery

So, do i have any evidence that the electrolyte is mostly stationary forming a wire network for the monopoles to flow? 

Well this past summer and the year before i was exploring the capacitor, especially trying to build one from graphite. But when i built one from sheets of aluminum i remember thinking there is very very little difference between this capacitor and faraday law of producing electricity in closed loop. 

I remember thinking a capacitor is the same as a battery and without a electrolyte instead a dielectric. So what is the bar magnet? It was the force of squeezing the foil. 

So can we say capacitor is a battery is a electric generator, all one and the same, but varying in the amount of monopoles produced. 

In the lab i remember connecting my many foil and getting a tiny current reading. No electrolyte just foils and dielectrics. 

And if a capacitor is a battery then it easily explains why a battery can last a long time because the aluminum foils and sheets of paper are lasting durable. 

AP 


Very crude dot picture of 5f6, 94TH 
ELECTRON=muon DOT CLOUD of 231Pu 


                ::\ ::|:: /:: 
                 ::\::|::/:: 
                     _ _ 
                    (:Y:) 
                     - - 
                 ::/::|::\:: 
                ::/ ::|:: \:: 
One of those dots is the Milky Way galaxy. And each dot represents another galaxy. 
            . \ .  . | .   /. 
           . . \. . .|. . /. . 
              ..\....|.../... 
               ::\:::|::/:: 
---------------      ------------- 
--------------- (Y) ------------- 
---------------      -------------- 
               ::/:::|::\:: 
              ../....|...\... 
           . . /. . .|. . \. . 
            . / .  . | .   \ . 

  
http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ 
whole entire Universe is just one big atom 
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies 

I re-opened the old newsgroup PAU of 1990s and there one can read my recent posts without the hassle of spammers, off-topic-misfits, front-page-hogs, stalking mockers, suppression-bullies, and demonizers.      

Read my recent posts in peace and quiet. 

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/plutonium-atom-universe         
Archimedes Plutonium

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#721434 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-12-29 17:23 +0000
SubjectRe: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test
Message-ID<q08ahv$d4n$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#721431
Math Failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> fails:

>Subject: Re: AP's thoughts on math for 29DEC2018// Teaching True Math--conversion to polynomial

>This is a math textbook like none other, for it is a one book for all your
>math needs. No more buying a new math book every year. And unique in the 
>quality that it is written Logically-- that is-- everything fits into place.

[]

WARNING TO PARENTS: Archimedes Plutonium is offering to teach your children
his broken math. BEWARE! He will corrupt the minds of your children! He
teaches there are no negative numbers, no complex numbers, he teaches a
sine wave isn't a sine wave plus many, many other instances of bad math.
Nobody knows why he wishes to corrupt the minds of children like this.
Perhaps he wants everyone to be a failure at math, just like he is.
Perhaps he is an agent of Putin and Russia, or maybe of China, in order
to make sure they will continue to dominate the trade economy. But the
point is, stay away, if he offers to give or sell you his dangerous book!

In addition, Plutonium wants to usurp good Christians by trying to convince
students to worship his evil pagan Plutonium atom god.

X-no-archive: yes 

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#721477

FromMike Hunt <invalid@example.com>
Date2018-12-29 13:05 -0800
Message-ID<q08nie$17n9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#721431
> AP's thoughts

Already wrong.

> For the electron is the muon and stays inside the atom almost forever and is not involved in electricity at all. 

Idiot.

> I was sadly confused 

Typical.

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#721489 — I had always thought the capacitor was separate entity from Faraday's law, I was wrong, the Capacitor is the smallest, most primitive Faradays Law Re: AP's thoughts of physics on 29DEC2018//battery review

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-29 14:28 -0800
SubjectI had always thought the capacitor was separate entity from Faraday's law, I was wrong, the Capacitor is the smallest, most primitive Faradays Law Re: AP's thoughts of physics on 29DEC2018//battery review
Message-ID<96bdc3f3-c3b1-4de4-bba5-baa709eedf1b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#721431
In the past I thought the Capacitor comes from Ampere's law, but now with the existence of the magnetic monopole, I realize the capacitor is a part of the Faraday law and the most primitive characterization of the Faraday law, where the characterization of thrusting a bar magnet through closed loop of wire was the past Faraday Law, better yet is the characterization-- squeeze together plates of metal produces a electric current.


On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 10:36:39 AM UTC-6, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> AP's thoughts of physics on 29DEC2018//battery review
> 
> Alright I need to review the battery when electricity is the flow of magnetic monopoles. And that static electricity is simply the monopoles fixed and static. 
> 
> So the idiocy of Old Physics that the electron inside of atoms is electricity comes to an end. For the electron is the muon and stays inside the atom almost forever and is not involved in electricity at all. The muon with its attendant proton perform the Faraday Law that creates monopoles, and these monopoles are often 0 charge photons or neutrinos but can be sometimes monopoles are either Open-charge or Closed-Charge and is the electricity. 
> 
> In High School where I learned how the battery works for the first time, I was sadly confused for I could never see how those batteries worked for a long time and not have the electrodes all gunked up with the fluid making one trip to an electrode and then corroding the entire electrode and the battery losing its life in a matter of minutes. That is the picture of Old Physics on batteries. They gloss over the fact that according to their theory-- the battery should be dead in a matter of minutes. 
> 
> But with the idea that electricity is not electrons but is monopoles attached to molecules or atoms and those attached monopoles can jump ship to the electrode and allow the neutral molecule to gain passage of another monopole-- well that theory can have a battery last for months. 
> 
> AP 
> 
> me (Archimedes Plutonium change) 	
> 12:00 AM (10 hours ago)
> 
> true theory of battery Re: AP's thoughts of physics on 28DEC2018// I need to review the battery in light of the fact that the magnetic monopole is the .5MeV particle for we never really understood the battery
> 
> Alright, Old Physics did a horrible job on ions, as well as Old Chemistry. The ion theory becomes more of a piggyback ride for charged-photons of .5MeV and larger. And in New Physics we have the muon with attendant proton performing Faraday's Law, so electricity is never about muons flowing to make electricity, no, never that stupid and silly picture. 
> 
> In New Physics we have these charged and uncharged Dirac magnetic monopoles that create electricity and they are either static monopoles or flowing in electricity monopoles. 
> 
> So the picture that emerges here of ions in battery is that the monopoles are riding on molecules, are static electric monopoles and once they reach the electrode, give up its passenger monopole and then head back to the other side to pick up another monopole passenger. 
> 
> And this makes a lot more common sense in terms of static electricity and flowing electricity. It also easily explains superconductivity as a static electricity just being a capacitor until the loop is closed to flow out. 
> 
> Now this also explains Dirac's ocean of positron space, for the positron was not a antielectron but merely a charged monopole. 
> 
> So, finally at last, my total unease in High School when learning how the battery works, that how could the explanation ever ever be that electrons inside of atoms or molecules flow, and why the battery can last for months yet the theory would have them drained of charge within minutes. 
> 
> Muons are the true electrons and they seldom if ever leave their atom, for they are bound up with a attendant proton doing the Faraday Law dance of creating magnetic monopoles. That means, a battery is where monopoles are being carted from one electrode to another electrode as static electricity riding a ride on a molecule. 
> 
> And, this explains why you put two sheets of metal with dielectric sandwiched in between, and you have a current coming from that set-up. Because it is flowing of monopoles, not electrons. And the monopoles are created from the atoms doing Faraday's law. 
> 
> So, to create electricity via electric generator, we build a machine that is a Faraday Law machine that created monopoles of electricity. But in a battery, all we do here is collect monopoles created by the atoms of the sheets of metal. 
> 
> In Old Physics, they thought as you thrust a bar magnet through a closed loop of wire, the magnetism is making the .5MeV electrons flow around in the wire. That is silly. 
> 
> In New Physics, when you thrust the bar magnet through the closed loop wire, what you are doing is directing the monopoles created in the atoms of the wire, directing those monopoles to flow in a specific direction, leaving the muon + proton that created the monopole virtually static. 
> 
> Under this picture, then, is one able to reconcile theory with battery long life. That electricity is a piggyback ride of monopoles. 
> 
> 
> 
> me (Archimedes Plutonium change) 	
> 12:31 AM (10 hours ago)
> 
> Electrolyte becomes the wire Re: I need to review the battery in light of the fact that the magnetic monopole is the .5MeV particle for we never really understood the battery
> 
> Now perhaps i need to modify that view for it really is silly to think the mobile monopole is riding on a slow moving molecule. So a far better picture is the electrolyte forms into a wire-chain of molecules from one electrode to the other and then the monopoles use this chain of molecules to race to the electrode. 
> 
> AP 
>  
> 
> 
> me (Archimedes Plutonium change) 	
> 2:21 AM (8 hours ago)
> 
> as the capacitor merges into becoming a battery Re: I need to review the battery in light of the fact that the magnetic monopole is the .5MeV particle for we never really understood the battery
> 
> So, do i have any evidence that the electrolyte is mostly stationary forming a wire network for the monopoles to flow? 
> 
> Well this past summer and the year before i was exploring the capacitor, especially trying to build one from graphite. But when i built one from sheets of aluminum i remember thinking there is very very little difference between this capacitor and faraday law of producing electricity in closed loop. 
> 
> I remember thinking a capacitor is the same as a battery and without a electrolyte instead a dielectric. So what is the bar magnet? It was the force of squeezing the foil. 
> 
> So can we say capacitor is a battery is a electric generator, all one and the same, but varying in the amount of monopoles produced. 
> 
> In the lab i remember connecting my many foil and getting a tiny current reading. No electrolyte just foils and dielectrics. 
> 
> And if a capacitor is a battery then it easily explains why a battery can last a long time because the aluminum foils and sheets of paper are lasting durable. 
> 
> AP 
> 
> 
> Very crude dot picture of 5f6, 94TH 
> ELECTRON=muon DOT CLOUD of 231Pu 
> 
> 
>                 ::\ ::|:: /:: 
>                  ::\::|::/:: 
>                      _ _ 
>                     (:Y:) 
>                      - - 
>                  ::/::|::\:: 
>                 ::/ ::|:: \:: 
> One of those dots is the Milky Way galaxy. And each dot represents another galaxy. 
>             . \ .  . | .   /. 
>            . . \. . .|. . /. . 
>               ..\....|.../... 
>                ::\:::|::/:: 
> ---------------      ------------- 
> --------------- (Y) ------------- 
> ---------------      -------------- 
>                ::/:::|::\:: 
>               ../....|...\... 
>            . . /. . .|. . \. . 
>             . / .  . | .   \ . 
> 
>   
> http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ 
whole entire Universe is just one big atom 
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies 
> 
> I re-opened the old newsgroup PAU of 1990s and there one can read my recent posts without the hassle of spammers, off-topic-misfits, front-page-hogs, stalking mockers, suppression-bullies, and demonizers.      
> 
> Read my recent posts in peace and quiet. 
> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/plutonium-atom-universe         
> Archimedes Plutonium

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#721492 — The electrolyte is the thrusting bar magnet, only it is now a thrusting pressure Re: 29DEC2018//battery review

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-29 14:44 -0800
SubjectThe electrolyte is the thrusting bar magnet, only it is now a thrusting pressure Re: 29DEC2018//battery review
Message-ID<f7ff38d0-5d88-455a-95c2-008afeee08df@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#721489
On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 4:28:39 PM UTC-6, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> In the past I thought the Capacitor comes from Ampere's law, but now with the existence of the magnetic monopole, I realize the capacitor is a part of the Faraday law and the most primitive characterization of the Faraday law, where the characterization of thrusting a bar magnet through closed loop of wire was the past Faraday Law, better yet is the characterization-- squeeze together plates of metal produces a electric current.
> 
> 

Yes, in light of this idea, -- Capacitor is the most primitive of Faraday's Law, if we reexamine the Electric Eel of its electrocytes, we see those are cupped ridged plates of muscles. So that this cupped ridged plates of muscles is the squeezing together of all the thousands upon thousands of the Electric Eels plates that produces the magnetic monopoles-- which is the electricity.

Now in a battery, what is the squeezing together? The thrusting is the squeezing? What is that in the battery? Well, it is the motion of the electrolyte. But not a motion of carrying electric charge from one electrode to another electrode, no, but rather, the motion of the electrolyte is so the electrodes, both of them are the source of creating monopoles. The plates or electrodes is the closed loop wire, and the electrolyte is the thrusting bar magnet.

AP

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#721493 — The electrolyte is the thrusting bar magnet, only it is now a thrusting pressure Re: 29DEC2018//battery review

Fromturcaudjp@gmail.com
Date2018-12-29 14:54 -0800
SubjectThe electrolyte is the thrusting bar magnet, only it is now a thrusting pressure Re: 29DEC2018//battery review
Message-ID<d6e7a99a-2d24-4c9f-98bd-7e3aa29bf2a4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#721492
Ah ! 

I am flabbergasted,  and gasping for breath confronted to so much science.

JP

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#721500 — Re: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-12-29 23:44 +0000
SubjectRe: Archimedes "Village Idiot" Plutonium flunked the Math Test of a lifetime-generation test
Message-ID<q090s1$kcl$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#721492
Math Failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> fails:

>Subject: Re: 11:23:15 stalker Moroney wrote: > Math Failure..//Steven Weinberg,Peter Higgs,Sheldon Glashow,Murray-GellMann,Edward Witten, never learned what Angular Momentum was

>11:23:15 stalker Moroney wrote: > Math Failure..//Steven Weinberg,Peter 
>Higgs,Sheldon Glashow,Murray-GellMann,Edward Witten, never learned what 
>Angular Momentum was

>On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 11:23:15 AM UTC-6, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> Math Failure Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> fails:


>LIST OF Failed Physicists, in no order, going back to about 1992 when the 
>idiocy of the Plutonium Stupidity Theory took form in a hallucination.

Archimedes Plutonium
Archimedes Plutonium
Archimedes Plutonium
Archimedes Plutonium
Archimedes Plutonium

Archimedes Plutonium
Archimedes Plutonium
Archimedes Plutonium

>little fishes
>.
>.

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