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| Started by | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-12-17 20:08 -0800 |
| Last post | 2018-12-24 10:41 -0800 |
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Question for Bodkin James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 20:08 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-18 13:52 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-18 05:55 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-18 14:02 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-18 16:56 -0500
Re: Question for Bodkin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 06:16 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 02:35 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-18 17:08 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 12:40 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 02:35 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 19:32 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 20:30 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 14:08 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 08:05 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 18:33 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 20:39 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-19 21:11 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-20 06:30 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 05:20 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-20 15:17 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 15:48 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 10:05 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-20 18:21 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 12:10 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 18:43 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-20 18:43 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 09:59 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-20 18:29 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 12:15 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2018-12-20 14:32 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-20 14:57 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-21 17:41 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 02:57 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 11:52 -0500
Re: Question for Bodkin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 09:45 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 18:38 +0000
Re: Question for Bodkin pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-20 14:55 -0800
Re: Question for Bodkin James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 10:41 -0800
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-20 15:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pvgdkl$nou$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #719659 |
Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote: > James McGinn writes: > >>>> Jim McGinn: >>>> Where is this extensive experimental data? > >>>> Why do you think it is that nobody can find it? > >>> Just because you can't find it, and because you are a nobody, doesn't make >>> "nobody can find it" a true statement. > >> Nobody is saying you are not allowed to believe whatever you want to >> believer. Just don't call it science and everything will be fine. > > So why are you here claiming that your "cold steam"/"no such thing as > water vapor below 100 C" crap is science, that you are the only one in the > world with correct science and that every single other scientist is wrong? > Just believe what you want to believe, don't call it science as you said. > Meanwhile real science will continue on without you, generating weather > reports and all kinds of other stuff that depends on actual observations > and experimental results. > Jim will go on believing that the scientific community has lost its claim to call themselves scientists, just because he believes that the entire class of professional scientists are deluded fools. He will also go on believing that he has the entitlement to declare himself a “true” scientist based on self-determined, self-serving criteria. This megalomania is a classic overcompensation for a massive sense of failure and social alienation, and a common symptom of schizoid break from reality. He’s aware of that, at some level, but emotional needs outweigh rationality. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-20 10:05 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <279093b7-8e45-44cf-b5ea-7453557fb621@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #719666 |
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 7:48:42 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote: > Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote: > > James McGinn writes: > > > >>>> Jim McGinn: > >>>> Where is this extensive experimental data? > > > >>>> Why do you think it is that nobody can find it? > > > >>> Just because you can't find it, and because you are a nobody, doesn't make > >>> "nobody can find it" a true statement. > > > >> Nobody is saying you are not allowed to believe whatever you want to > >> believer. Just don't call it science and everything will be fine. > > > > So why are you here claiming that your "cold steam"/"no such thing as > > water vapor below 100 C" crap is science, that you are the only one in the > > world with correct science and that every single other scientist is wrong? > > Just believe what you want to believe, don't call it science as you said. > > Meanwhile real science will continue on without you, generating weather > > reports and all kinds of other stuff that depends on actual observations > > and experimental results. > > > > Jim will go on believing that the scientific community has lost its claim > to call themselves scientists, just because he believes that the entire > class of professional scientists are deluded fools. He will also go on > believing that he has the entitlement to declare himself a “true” scientist > based on self-determined, self-serving criteria. This megalomania is a > classic overcompensation for a massive sense of failure and social > alienation, and a common symptom of schizoid break from reality. He’s > aware of that, at some level, but emotional needs outweigh rationality. > > -- > Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables Maybe tell us how your belief in 'cold steam' is different from somebody else's belief in ghostsl
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-12-20 18:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pvgmj1$kbt$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #719686 |
James McGinn writes: >moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) writes: >>James McGinn writes: >>>>>Jim McGinn: >>>>>Where is this extensive experimental data? >>>>>Why do you think it is that nobody can find it? >>>>Just because you can't find it, and because you are a nobody, doesn't make >>>>"nobody can find it" a true statement. >>>Nobody is saying you are not allowed to believe whatever you want to >>>believer. Just don't call it science and everything will be fine. >>So why are you here claiming that your "cold steam"/"no such thing as >>water vapor below 100 C" crap is science, that you are the only one in the >>world with correct science and that every single other scientist is wrong? >>Just believe what you want to believe, don't call it science as you said. >>Meanwhile real science will continue on without you, generating weather >>reports and all kinds of other stuff that depends on actual observations >>and experimental results. >Maybe tell us how your belief in 'cold steam' is different from somebody >else's belief in ghostsl 'Cold Steam' is something of your own creation, and I am not about to speculate what you believe is or isn't true about your 'cold steam' beliefs. My point stands about your point. Believe what you want to believe, just don't claim it's science. And don't be surprised when science keeps doing things that conflict with your beliefs.
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-20 12:10 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1adfb99e-0cec-4c1f-90c6-d7b56cc53cdc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #719688 |
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 10:21:25 AM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote: > James McGinn writes: > >moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) writes: > > >>James McGinn writes: > > >>>>>Jim McGinn: > >>>>>Where is this extensive experimental data? > > >>>>>Why do you think it is that nobody can find it? > > >>>>Just because you can't find it, and because you are a nobody, doesn't make > >>>>"nobody can find it" a true statement. > > >>>Nobody is saying you are not allowed to believe whatever you want to > >>>believer. Just don't call it science and everything will be fine. > > >>So why are you here claiming that your "cold steam"/"no such thing as > >>water vapor below 100 C" crap is science, that you are the only one in the > >>world with correct science and that every single other scientist is wrong? > >>Just believe what you want to believe, don't call it science as you said. > >>Meanwhile real science will continue on without you, generating weather > >>reports and all kinds of other stuff that depends on actual observations > >>and experimental results. > > >Maybe tell us how your belief in 'cold steam' is different from somebody > >else's belief in ghostsl > > 'Cold Steam' is something of your own creation, and I am not about to > speculate what you believe is or isn't true about your 'cold steam' > beliefs. > > My point stands about your point. Believe what you want to believe, just > don't claim it's science. And don't be surprised when science keeps doing > things that conflict with your beliefs. Science phoneys do their best to maintain the obscurity that allows them to continue to believe what they want to believe.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-20 18:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pvgnso$b9d$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #719686 |
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 7:48:42 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote: >>> James McGinn writes: >>> >>>>>> Jim McGinn: >>>>>> Where is this extensive experimental data? >>> >>>>>> Why do you think it is that nobody can find it? >>> >>>>> Just because you can't find it, and because you are a nobody, doesn't make >>>>> "nobody can find it" a true statement. >>> >>>> Nobody is saying you are not allowed to believe whatever you want to >>>> believer. Just don't call it science and everything will be fine. >>> >>> So why are you here claiming that your "cold steam"/"no such thing as >>> water vapor below 100 C" crap is science, that you are the only one in the >>> world with correct science and that every single other scientist is wrong? >>> Just believe what you want to believe, don't call it science as you said. >>> Meanwhile real science will continue on without you, generating weather >>> reports and all kinds of other stuff that depends on actual observations >>> and experimental results. >>> >> >> Jim will go on believing that the scientific community has lost its claim >> to call themselves scientists, just because he believes that the entire >> class of professional scientists are deluded fools. He will also go on >> believing that he has the entitlement to declare himself a “true” scientist >> based on self-determined, self-serving criteria. This megalomania is a >> classic overcompensation for a massive sense of failure and social >> alienation, and a common symptom of schizoid break from reality. He’s >> aware of that, at some level, but emotional needs outweigh rationality. >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > Maybe tell us how your belief in 'cold steam' is different from somebody > else's belief in ghostsl > And maybe you’ll stop claiming to be a physicist rather than a disenfranchised basement-dwelling troll who films himself in the park to stave off invisibility. I doubt either will happen. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-12-20 18:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pvgnsq$kbt$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #719666 |
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes: >Jim will go on believing that the scientific community has lost its claim >to call themselves scientists, just because he believes that the entire >class of professional scientists are deluded fools. He will also go on >believing that he has the entitlement to declare himself a “true” scientist >based on self-determined, self-serving criteria. This megalomania is a >classic overcompensation for a massive sense of failure and social >alienation, and a common symptom of schizoid break from reality. He’s >aware of that, at some level, but emotional needs outweigh rationality. That is 100% correct, and I know it. I've been watching kooks kook here for some 25 years, it's sort of a weird entertainment for me as is trying to talk common sense into them even though I know perfectly well it is doomed to failure. Several things very common for the kooks here (nearly all of them, not just McGinn) are an 'idee fixe' (some wrong idea that they are obsessed over and can't stop discussing, and it is impossible for any logic to fix the wrong idea in their mind), megalomania/narcissistic personality disorder, the Dunning-Kruger effect and delusions. Start off with a wrong science belief, add the others and poof, you have a classic physics crank.
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-20 09:59 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ac59d474-8f98-481f-ba84-53bb310d121a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #719659 |
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 7:17:18 AM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote: > James McGinn writes: > > >>>Jim McGinn: > >>>Where is this extensive experimental data? > > >>>Why do you think it is that nobody can find it? > > >>Just because you can't find it, and because you are a nobody, doesn't make > >>"nobody can find it" a true statement. > > >Nobody is saying you are not allowed to believe whatever you want to > >believer. Just don't call it science and everything will be fine. > > So why are you here claiming that your "cold steam"/"no such thing as > water vapor below 100 C" I've never claimed any such thing.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-12-20 18:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pvgn2j$kbt$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #719683 |
>> So why are you here claiming that your "cold steam"/"no such thing as >> water vapor below 100 C" [crap is science?] >I've never claimed any such thing. I can point hundreds of your posts where you claim there is no such thing as gaseous water below 100 C. You can't deny that. Oh I guess you're pulling a Ken Seto and have invented your very own definition for 'water vapor', correct? Sorry, I don't believe in redefining words and phrases like that. Do you believe that you are the only one in the world with correct science and that every single other scientist is wrong?
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-20 12:15 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <33cda408-0f5a-488b-8899-9224b407cef8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #719690 |
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 10:29:42 AM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote: > >> So why are you here claiming that your "cold steam"/"no such thing as > >> water vapor below 100 C" [crap is science?] > > >I've never claimed any such thing. > > I can point hundreds of your posts Go ahead, assbite. Put up or shut up.
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| From | Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-20 14:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <2126538c-aae5-4bd0-b5b5-08908b1c7620@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #719711 |
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 12:15:17 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote: > On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 10:29:42 AM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote: > > >> So why are you here claiming that your "cold steam"/"no such thing as > > >> water vapor below 100 C" [crap is science?] > > > > >I've never claimed any such thing. > > > > I can point hundreds of your posts > > Go ahead, assbite. Put up or shut up. Well Moroney. Go ahead.
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-20 14:57 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <8f86484a-f4a5-484c-a871-a9d7697c354a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #719747 |
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 2:32:36 PM UTC-8, Claudius Denk wrote: > Well Moroney. Go ahead. Jim, your sockpuppet has escaped again. Please return him to his kennel before he hurts himself.
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-21 17:41 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <2e13722e-35dc-42b9-a74b-b2c635eae0f6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #719757 |
Denk is getting 5000 views a day over in quora
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-22 02:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pvk97d$3u8$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #720057 |
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote: > Denk is getting 5000 views a day over in quora > Wonderful. A fictional character is getting attention on the internet. Meanwhile, you are still invisible. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-22 11:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pvlq4g$k9h$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #720076 |
On 12/21/2018 9:57 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote: >> Denk is getting 5000 views a day over in quora >> > > Wonderful. A fictional character is getting attention on the internet. > Meanwhile, you are still invisible. > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables Odd, what we all want is to see some images of your toys, tools and tables on the internet...
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-22 09:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <70cf6a13-4bbd-4b81-8a00-0474c2d7f820@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #720166 |
Odd benj wrote “Odd, what we all want is to see some images of your toys, tools and tables on the internet... ” Yes, Odd. Let’s see YOUR work, for once. That’ll never happen
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-24 18:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pvr93r$ihm$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #720193 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > benj wrote > “Odd, what we all want is to see some images of your toys, tools and > tables on the internet... ” > Yes, Odd. > Let’s see YOUR work, for once. > That’ll never happen > On a text newsgroup? I’ll try. | |. ========= === | | | | | | I don’t have a web page. I don’t have a Facebook or twitter or Snapchat or instagram account. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-20 14:55 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ae33f536-a5a4-47c4-a61e-606ccc90c06f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #719711 |
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 12:15:17 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote: > Put up or shut up. Well, Jim, I've been asking you to do the same thing for a long time. Let's see that empirical evidence of yours for, oh, I don't know, how about the absence of gaseous H2O in the atmosphere at STP? Put up or shut up, you wannabe.
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-24 10:41 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ea39199f-6e02-4beb-a9be-bcd3c1de9e20@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #719753 |
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 2:55:33 PMYou UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 12:15:17 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote: > > > Put up or shut up. > > Well, Jim, I've been asking you to do the same thing for a long time. > > Let's see that empirical evidence of yours for, oh, I don't know, how about the absence of gaseous H2O in the atmosphere at STP? > > Put up or shut up, you wannabe. You got nothing, you lying piece of shit.
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