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Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again?

Started byJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
First post2018-11-24 11:46 -0800
Last post2018-12-17 02:14 +0100
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  Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 11:46 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 12:57 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 15:49 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 16:34 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 20:48 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 09:27 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 20:53 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-25 11:40 -0600
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 11:26 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Steve <invalidz@example.net> - 2018-11-25 16:52 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-11-26 01:06 +0000
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 21:05 -0800
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 10:51 -0800
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Richard Cranium <involidz@example.net> - 2018-11-28 07:38 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-26 12:54 -0600
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 22:57 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 16:22 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-25 14:06 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 15:43 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 17:51 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Oscar <invalidz@example.net> - 2018-11-26 18:11 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 20:09 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 20:40 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 03:40 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 16:44 +0000
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 15:38 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 11:14 -0800
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 15:42 -0800
                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-28 01:08 +0100
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 21:51 -0800
                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 23:32 -0800
                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 23:44 -0800
                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 23:59 -0800
                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 08:54 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Buck Futter <invaolidz@example.net> - 2018-11-28 17:28 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 17:48 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 20:43 -0800
                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 20:50 -0800
                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 23:55 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 01:01 -0800
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 12:08 -0800
                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 15:11 -0800
                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 20:50 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 23:12 -0800
                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 00:03 -0800
                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 00:07 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Steve <invaolidz@example.net> - 2018-11-29 18:57 -0800
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-30 14:06 -0600
                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 12:02 -0800
                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 14:56 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 23:06 +0000
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 15:38 -0800
                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 18:05 -0800
                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 01:41 -0800
                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-30 14:06 -0600
                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 16:08 -0800
                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 01:34 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 19:16 -0800
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 20:14 -0800
                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 20:27 -0800
                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 21:59 -0800
                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 09:48 -0800
                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 11:07 -0800
                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 12:22 -0800
                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-02 18:31 -0800
                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-02 22:13 -0800
                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-02 22:14 -0800
                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-02 22:20 -0800
                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 13:28 -0800
                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-03 13:44 -0800
                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 14:38 -0800
                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-03 14:47 -0800
                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 03:32 -0800
                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 23:31 +0000
                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 17:14 -0800
                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 17:44 -0800
                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-05 18:49 -0700
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 20:00 -0800
                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 19:24 -0800
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 20:05 -0800
                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 21:08 -0800
                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 21:35 -0800
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 22:38 -0800
                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 22:52 -0800
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 22:50 -0800
                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 22:58 -0800
                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 23:14 -0800
                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 13:33 +0000
                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 07:41 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-06 16:34 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 09:45 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 09:56 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 11:16 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-06 12:26 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 11:34 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-06 12:54 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 13:42 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 19:48 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 20:35 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 08:14 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 15:58 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 16:34 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 21:46 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 22:16 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 22:32 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 23:38 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 09:45 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:43 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-12 14:46 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 23:33 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 23:40 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:51 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 20:29 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-08 23:07 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:20 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-09 09:13 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 09:40 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-09 14:37 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-10 14:03 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:34 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 21:33 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:06 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 10:06 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 16:01 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 16:36 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 04:28 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 15:25 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 07:46 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 17:18 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 09:51 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 18:05 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 10:17 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 10:44 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 13:26 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 15:05 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 17:37 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 19:22 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 21:48 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 13:08 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:26 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:27 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-10 14:09 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 15:00 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 03:17 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 23:03 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:02 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 18:14 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:25 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 18:44 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:52 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-09 05:44 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:31 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 10:49 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-09 22:36 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 23:44 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 18:28 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 02:52 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:22 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 18:22 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 20:14 -0800
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#717532

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-09 18:22 -0800
Message-ID<5f9472d5-cd74-4fb1-bba2-dc173c5a2c79@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717441
On Sunday, 9 December 2018 22:12:56 UTC+11, Arindam Banerjee  wrote:
> I don't think the concrete-brains here understand clear and simple logic. They are beyond help.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=iAL42tN3&id=A80665299848CB7AA7726EB9AB52863F9B2BAC7F&thid=OIP.iAL42tN3QSZNIr7eWiDj1wHaGD&mediaurl=http%3a%2f%2fserc.carleton.edu%2fimages%2fresearch_education%2fequilibria%2fh2o_phase_diagram_-_color.v2.jpg&exph=1460&expw=1784&q=phase+diagram+water&simid=608022798998439779&selectedIndex=0&ajaxhist=0

This graph is so self-explanatory. Obviously the compound H2O has to remain as water only within the 0 to 100degC range when the pressure is 1 atmosphere.

Within 0 to 100degC it can be vapour/gas if and only if the atmospheric pressure is less than 1 atmosphere.

McGinn's point is simple - the compound H2O at 1 atm and 1-100deg has to be in a watery state.

So far so good, assuming that the graph I have shown has been produced after scientific experiment. No one who can read a graph can dispute this.

The issue of contention then arises with the phenomenon of evaporation. Water evaporates at 1 atmos and within 1-100degC. what is the state of water that has evaporated - solid, liquid or gas?

At this stage I pause for a response.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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#717534

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-09 20:14 -0800
Message-ID<88d7c04c-8b48-48b2-accf-17b2fd4a7448@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717532
This graph is so self-explanatory. Obviously the compound H2O has to remain as water only within the 0 to 100degC range when the pressure is 1 atmosphere. 

Right. 

Within 0 to 100degC it can be vapour/gas if and only if the atmospheric pressure is less than 1 atmosphere. 

Well,  not less than. 

McGinn's point is simple - the compound H2O at 1 atm and 1-100deg has to be in a watery state. 

So far so good, assuming that the graph I have shown has been produced after scientific experiment. No one who can read a graph can dispute this.

Right. Which is why meteorologists wont acknowledge it,  because then they would have to confront the fact that their theory harbors a major error. 


The issue of contention then arises with the phenomenon of evaporation. Water evaporates at 1 atmos and within 1-100degC. what is the state of water that has evaporated - solid, liquid or gas? 

At this stage I pause for a response. 

Liquid. 

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#717535

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2018-12-09 20:22 -0800
Message-ID<4a3c0f97-10d9-4664-a9d0-97bccfd66712@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717532
On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 6:22:56 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Sunday, 9 December 2018 22:12:56 UTC+11, Arindam Banerjee  wrote:
> > I don't think the concrete-brains here understand clear and simple logic. They are beyond help.
> 
> https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=iAL42tN3&id=A80665299848CB7AA7726EB9AB52863F9B2BAC7F&thid=OIP.iAL42tN3QSZNIr7eWiDj1wHaGD&mediaurl=http%3a%2f%2fserc.carleton.edu%2fimages%2fresearch_education%2fequilibria%2fh2o_phase_diagram_-_color.v2.jpg&exph=1460&expw=1784&q=phase+diagram+water&simid=608022798998439779&selectedIndex=0&ajaxhist=0
> 
> This graph is so self-explanatory. Obviously the compound H2O has to remain as water only within the 0 to 100degC range when the pressure is 1 atmosphere.

Yes, but what you *don't* understand is that when water vapor is part of the air, things are very different. Go find the graph for the triple point of *air*, rather than just plain water.

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#717538

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-09 20:45 -0800
Message-ID<c2a80156-962e-4488-940c-829736d92047@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717535
Yes, but what you *don't* understand is that when water vapor is part of the air, things are very different. Go find the graph for the triple point of *air*, rather than just plain water. 

LOL. The triple point for air?

Surreal. 

Not even Sergio is this dumb. 

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#717611

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2018-12-10 15:46 -0800
Message-ID<30112a86-9a16-4458-bc35-4426c7c05c4d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717538
So, Jim you don't think that there is a triple point or phase diagram for air? You are incapable of finding such a thing, so you think it doesn't exist? Think again...

https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-gas-liquid-equilibrium-condition-properties-temperature-pressure-boiling-curve-d_2008.html


Triple point:  The temperature and pressure at which the three phases (gas, liquid, and solid) of a substance coexist in thermodynamic equilibrium

  Triple point pressure of air:         0.05196 atm = 0.05265 bar = 5265 Pa = 0.7636 psi (=lbf/in2)

  Triple point temperature of air:    59.75 K = -213.40 °C = -352.12 °F

Go ahead and make your argument as to just how and why you think this is all wrong, you complete buffoon. The only people making fools of themselves here you and Banjo Boy...

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#717617

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-10 17:04 -0800
Message-ID<a24996d0-e656-477d-8214-1c832237e144@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717611
So, Jim you don't think that there is a triple point or phase diagram for air? You are incapable of finding such a thing, so you think it doesn't exist? Think again... 

https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-gas-liquid-equilibrium-condition-properties-temperature-pressure-boiling-curve-d_2008.html 


Triple point:  The temperature and pressure at which the three phases (gas, liquid, and solid) of a substance coexist in thermodynamic equilibrium 

  Triple point pressure of air:         0.05196 atm = 0.05265 bar = 5265 Pa = 0.7636 psi (=lbf/in2) 

  Triple point temperature of air:    59.75 K = -213.40 °C = -352.12 °F 

Go ahead and make your argument as to just how and why you think this is all wrong, you complete buffoon. The only people making fools of themselves here you and Banjo Boy... 

Show us the triple point for air,  you fruit loop.

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#717633

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-10 17:43 -0800
Message-ID<8bbed4ae-d8d4-413c-9df9-b87a9f870ee3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717611
So, Jim you don't think that there is a triple point or phase diagram for air? You are incapable of finding such a thing, so you think it doesn't exist? Think again... 

https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-gas-liquid-equilibrium-condition-properties-temperature-pressure-boiling-curve-d_2008.html 

Okay.  Now answer the question.  Go ahead. 
Triple point:  The temperature and pressure at which the three phases (gas, liquid, and solid) of a substance coexist in thermodynamic equilibrium 

  Triple point pressure of air:         0.05196 atm = 0.05265 bar = 5265 Pa = 0.7636 psi (=lbf/in2) 

  Triple point temperature of air:    59.75 K = -213.40 °C = -352.12 °F 

Go ahead and make your argument as to just how and why you think this is all wrong, you complete buffoon. The only people making fools of themselves here you and Banjo Boy... 

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#717644

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2018-12-10 20:04 -0800
Message-ID<d60c27ee-89db-424b-ba24-a9b3b7b8c6c6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717633
Answer the question? Why Jim, it is right there on the page in front of you, in plain English. Must I do everything for you? Can't you read?

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#717646

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-10 20:29 -0800
Message-ID<5fce2a39-adff-4905-bc6a-418c589b35d0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717644
Answer the question? Why Jim, it is right there on the page in front of you, in plain English. Must I do everything for you? Can't you read? 

LOL. 

You got nothing you worthless troll. 

James McGinn / Solving Tornadoes

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#717647

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2018-12-10 20:42 -0800
Message-ID<bb3648f1-c210-46eb-acd1-e3d7fed4bd65@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717646
Did you really not understand this?


  Triple point pressure of air:         0.05196 atm = 0.05265 bar = 5265 Pa = 0.7636 psi (=lbf/in2) 

  Triple point temperature of air:    59.75 K = -213.40 °C = -352.12 °F 

These numbers, in fact, describe the exact pressure and temperature of the Triple Point of air. Are you really so stupid that you don't realize this?

Un-freakin'-believable... and there was even a graph on that link... which apparently you didn't understand, either...

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#717653

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-10 22:44 -0800
Message-ID<b748ac0a-e88d-4718-af1b-a673e2a8c98a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717647
These numbers, in fact, describe the exact pressure and temperature of the Triple Point of air. Are you really so stupid that you don't realize this? 

JMcG:
References?


Un-freakin'-believable... and there was even a graph on that link... which apparently you didn't understand, either...

JMcG:
Relevance?

James McGinn / Solving Tornadoes

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#717657

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-11 00:32 -0800
Message-ID<dcc9676e-6a40-4d81-909e-c979e2e13ff3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717647
Triple point pressure of air:         0.05196 atm = 0.05265 bar = 5265 Pa = 0.7636 psi (=lbf/in2) 

  Triple point temperature of air:    59.75 K = -213.40 °C = -352.12 °F 

These numbers, in fact, describe the exact pressure and temperature of the Triple Point of air. Are you really so stupid that you don't realize this? 

Un-freakin'-believable... and there was even a graph on that link... which apparently you didn't understand, either.

JMcG:
The triple point being discussed here is that of H2O.

Moron.

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#717668

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2018-12-11 06:50 -0800
Message-ID<e2fac3bd-17d7-4518-ade5-9d62e3948af0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717657
Well, no, you have been talking about water in the atmosphere all along... that is, water in the air... claiming that it not gaseous at all. Are you now retracting that claim?

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#717681

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-11 07:52 -0800
Message-ID<81c58189-537c-4c1e-a6df-1978e5751bd4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717668
There is no such thing as a triple point for air you goon. 

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#717547

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-10 00:40 -0800
Message-ID<3ee415dd-4269-43bb-8f36-bd26a446a7ff@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717535
On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 3:23:03 PM UTC+11, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 6:22:56 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Sunday, 9 December 2018 22:12:56 UTC+11, Arindam Banerjee  wrote:
> > > I don't think the concrete-brains here understand clear and simple logic. They are beyond help.
> > 
> > https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=iAL42tN3&id=A80665299848CB7AA7726EB9AB52863F9B2BAC7F&thid=OIP.iAL42tN3QSZNIr7eWiDj1wHaGD&mediaurl=http%3a%2f%2fserc.carleton.edu%2fimages%2fresearch_education%2fequilibria%2fh2o_phase_diagram_-_color.v2.jpg&exph=1460&expw=1784&q=phase+diagram+water&simid=608022798998439779&selectedIndex=0&ajaxhist=0
> > 
> > This graph is so self-explanatory. Obviously the compound H2O has to remain as water only within the 0 to 100degC range when the pressure is 1 atmosphere.
> 
> Yes, but what you *don't* understand is that when water vapor is part of the air, things are very different. Go find the graph for the triple point of *air*, rather than just plain water.

pnal excels with his stupidity. When presented a graph showing the phase diagram of water the fool tells me to go find a graph for the triple point of air! This is the e=mcc effect. So much are the heads of these illustrious Eisnteinian coxcombs deeply buried into the black holes of their sordid selves, that they have long forgotten the basic physics taught in high schools. They don't know the meanings of pressure or temperature, though they may just perhaps have some notion of volume.

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#717648

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-10 20:50 -0800
Message-ID<a218dc77-ee68-4575-9476-9f01109ae546@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717547
pnal excels with his stupidity. When presented a graph showing the phase diagram of water the fool tells me to go find a graph for the triple point of air! This is the e=mcc effect. So much are the heads of these illustrious Eisnteinian coxcombs deeply buried into the black holes of their sordid selves, that they have long forgotten the basic physics taught in high schools. They don't know the meanings of pressure or temperature, though they may just perhaps have some notion of volume. 

Humans are believers. 
For pnal science is his only religion
Church ladies have an emotional attachment to certainty
They are perfectly willing to lie to protect the sanctity of their belief
They are even willing to sacrifice their own reputation to preserve the delusion of certainty that they get from science

There are, literally,  billions and billions of these brain dead church ladies

Much of science operates like a religion also. 

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#717652

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-10 22:43 -0800
Message-ID<3482d6ca-0963-40d2-a66b-16ebac78af50@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717648
On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 3:50:06 PM UTC+11, James McGinn wrote:
> pnal excels with his stupidity. When presented a graph showing the phase diagram of water the fool tells me to go find a graph for the triple point of air! This is the e=mcc effect. So much are the heads of these illustrious Eisnteinian coxcombs deeply buried into the black holes of their sordid selves, that they have long forgotten the basic physics taught in high schools. They don't know the meanings of pressure or temperature, though they may just perhaps have some notion of volume. 
> 
> Humans are believers. 
> For pnal science is his only religion
> Church ladies have an emotional attachment to certainty
> They are perfectly willing to lie to protect the sanctity of their belief
> They are even willing to sacrifice their own reputation to preserve the delusion of certainty that they get from science
> 
> There are, literally,  billions and billions of these brain dead church ladies
> 
> Much of science operates like a religion also.

Comparing these blithering imbeciles to church ladies is a grave insult to church ladies. Church ladies are useful in their own ways. They make cakes and do lots of knitting. Useful purposes, warmly appreciated by my heathen self.

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#717592

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-12-10 15:20 -0600
Message-ID<pumlb6$s57$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#717125
On 12/7/2018 1:06 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>> You got nothing!!!
>>>> You got nothing!!!
>> You got nothing!!!
> 
> Now now, let's not have a meltdown. I'll help you, just this once.
> 
> At 20 C, the vapor pressure of water is 17.5 torr, or 2333 Pascals, or 
> 0.023 atmospheres, or 0.338 psi.
> 

no need to make it complicated for Jim,
just say there is no such thing as water vapor, and he dont have to
worry about, torr, or pascals or atmosphers or psi....
no pressure!

Jim is a a few drops of water on a cotton ball type of guy.

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#717620

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-10 17:22 -0800
Message-ID<baa7783c-439d-433f-8ebf-869dd6eb64f9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717592
So Sergio.  Arindam says there is no cold steam on the h2o phase diagram?

Now what are you nitwits going to do?

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#717756

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-12-11 23:04 +0000
Message-ID<pupfq0$uos$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#717620
James McGinn babbles:

> So Sergio.  Arindam says there is no cold steam on the h2o phase diagram?

> Now what are you nitwits going to do?

Laugh at him as well as laugh at you?

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