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Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again?

Started byJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
First post2018-11-24 11:46 -0800
Last post2018-12-17 02:14 +0100
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  Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 11:46 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 12:57 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 15:49 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 16:34 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 20:48 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 09:27 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 20:53 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-25 11:40 -0600
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 11:26 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Steve <invalidz@example.net> - 2018-11-25 16:52 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-11-26 01:06 +0000
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 21:05 -0800
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 10:51 -0800
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Richard Cranium <involidz@example.net> - 2018-11-28 07:38 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-26 12:54 -0600
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 22:57 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 16:22 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-25 14:06 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 15:43 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 17:51 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Oscar <invalidz@example.net> - 2018-11-26 18:11 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 20:09 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 20:40 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 03:40 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 16:44 +0000
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 15:38 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 11:14 -0800
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 15:42 -0800
                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-28 01:08 +0100
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 21:51 -0800
                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 23:32 -0800
                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 23:44 -0800
                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 23:59 -0800
                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 08:54 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Buck Futter <invaolidz@example.net> - 2018-11-28 17:28 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 17:48 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 20:43 -0800
                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 20:50 -0800
                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 23:55 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 01:01 -0800
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 12:08 -0800
                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 15:11 -0800
                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 20:50 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 23:12 -0800
                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 00:03 -0800
                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 00:07 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Steve <invaolidz@example.net> - 2018-11-29 18:57 -0800
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-30 14:06 -0600
                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 12:02 -0800
                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 14:56 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 23:06 +0000
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 15:38 -0800
                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 18:05 -0800
                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 01:41 -0800
                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-30 14:06 -0600
                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 16:08 -0800
                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 01:34 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 19:16 -0800
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 20:14 -0800
                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 20:27 -0800
                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 21:59 -0800
                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 09:48 -0800
                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 11:07 -0800
                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 12:22 -0800
                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-02 18:31 -0800
                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-02 22:13 -0800
                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-02 22:14 -0800
                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-02 22:20 -0800
                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 13:28 -0800
                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-03 13:44 -0800
                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 14:38 -0800
                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-03 14:47 -0800
                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 03:32 -0800
                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 23:31 +0000
                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 17:14 -0800
                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 17:44 -0800
                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-05 18:49 -0700
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 20:00 -0800
                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 19:24 -0800
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 20:05 -0800
                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 21:08 -0800
                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 21:35 -0800
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 22:38 -0800
                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 22:52 -0800
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 22:50 -0800
                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 22:58 -0800
                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 23:14 -0800
                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 13:33 +0000
                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 07:41 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-06 16:34 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 09:45 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 09:56 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 11:16 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-06 12:26 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 11:34 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-06 12:54 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 13:42 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 19:48 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 20:35 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 08:14 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 15:58 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 16:34 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 21:46 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 22:16 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 22:32 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 23:38 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 09:45 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:43 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-12 14:46 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 23:33 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 23:40 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:51 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 20:29 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-08 23:07 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:20 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-09 09:13 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 09:40 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-09 14:37 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-10 14:03 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:34 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 21:33 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:06 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 10:06 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 16:01 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 16:36 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 04:28 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 15:25 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 07:46 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 17:18 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 09:51 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 18:05 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 10:17 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 10:44 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 13:26 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 15:05 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 17:37 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 19:22 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 21:48 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 13:08 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:26 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:27 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-10 14:09 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 15:00 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 03:17 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 23:03 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:02 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 18:14 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:25 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 18:44 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:52 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-09 05:44 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:31 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 10:49 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-09 22:36 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 23:44 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 18:28 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 02:52 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:22 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 18:22 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 20:14 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-09 20:22 -0800
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                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 18:14 -0800
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                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 20:32 -0800
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                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-06 17:49 +0100
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                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 16:51 -0800
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                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 18:37 -0800
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                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 19:20 -0800
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                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-07 11:35 +0100
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                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 13:29 -0800
                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-12 07:34 +0100
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 21:55 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-15 15:05 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 17:15 -0800
                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 21:43 -0800
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                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-14 00:11 -0800
                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-15 15:03 +0100
                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 17:10 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-17 22:01 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 14:29 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-17 22:03 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 14:26 -0800
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                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 22:15 +0000
                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-03 23:18 +0100
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                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 15:35 -0800
                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-12 01:30 +0100
                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 17:45 -0800
                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-12 07:21 +0100
                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-14 00:32 -0800
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-15 15:18 +0100
                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-15 11:53 -0800
                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-15 17:21 -0800
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-15 21:57 -0800
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                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 17:17 -0800
                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-17 22:11 +0100
                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 23:35 -0800
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-17 12:27 -0800
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                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-17 22:42 +0100
                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 14:33 -0800
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                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 23:57 -0800
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            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-27 15:24 -0600
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 17:56 -0800
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                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-11-28 13:47 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 11:05 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 21:48 -0800
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      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-12-07 10:57 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-12 11:45 -0800
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#715443

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-11-29 12:08 -0800
Message-ID<d925ba76-9d10-4fd3-b8fb-ebac0282994c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715320
On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 1:01:48 AM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 November 2018 18:55:28 UTC+11, por...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 6:50:04 AM UTC+2, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:43:49 UTC+11, por...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 6:54:15 PM UTC+2, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:59:19 AM UTC+2, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:44:14 UTC+11, por...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:32:41 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 9:51:44 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:15:03 UTC+11, Edward Prochak  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 6:40:39 AM UTC-5, john wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Ari
> > > > > > > > > > > “When light goes from less dense medium to more dense medium, it REFRACTS. 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > That is the basis of the optical lensing phenomenon. 
> > > > > > > > > > > ”
> > > > > > > > > > > And different wavelengths bend differently.
> > > > > > > > > > > This is not observed
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Good for you, John. You thought through the facts logically
> > > > > > > > > > and correctly. Refraction has been long eliminated as the
> > > > > > > > > > cause of changed stellar positions as observed in a
> > > > > > > > > > solar eclipse.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >  Ed
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Eliminated by fiat. How unscientific!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Space is only as flat as the flat Earth...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >==============================
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > RIGHT   !!!!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > IF SO 
> > > > > > > CAN IT*(space ) DO* ANYTHING ??!!!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > WITHUT THE EXISTANCE OF   MASS IN IT ??
> > > > > > > 2
> > > > > > > AND IF SO
> > > > > > > WHO IS*** THE REAL FORCE MAKER*** THERE ??
> > > > > > > (space or mass!! ??
> > > > > > > need  one to be a genius
> > > > > > > in   order of understanding it ????
> > > > > > > ==
> > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > Y.P
> > > > > > > =================
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > There is definitely a metaphysical angle to this. The Christian fundie types love all this e=mcc stuff. Probably because it keeps the universe finite and their theology thus okay. One simply has to ignore some inconvenient issues about the Earth's revolution around the Sun, and all is hunky-dory, back to the Dark Ages.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Energy has mass density.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Energy is the capacity to do work, and work is force times distance.
> > > > > >  It is all about force, which is mass times acceleration.
> > > > > =================
> > > > > =very nice !!
> > > > > but 
> > > > > what is making that** force** that you are   talking about 
> > > > > 
> > > > > do you see the mass there ?
> > > > > may be it is mass that doing the  force ?
> > > > > did you  see   a  mass   of a permanent manet 
> > > > > that is doing force ??……
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > is  that mass   passive ??
> > > > > or may be the  mass there 
> > > > > IS ACTIVE ??.
> > > > > how about some creative innovating  thinking   ? 
> > > > > ========================
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Y.P
> > > > >
> > > >  ==================
> > > > still  no answer !!
> > > > are my above questions too   difficult to   answer ??
> > > 
> > > Your questions are expressions of imbecility, so cannot be understood let alone answered.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > TIA
> > > > Y.P
> > > > 
> > ======================
> > Pakistani   psychopath criminal against mankind
> > who btw
> > 
> > ''found'' than that 
> > E=mc^2
> > is not right !

What then is wrong Roy Masters?

> > is  it not by  itself- a certificate that you are a psychopath ??
> 
> All those who believe in e=mcc are eiher fools or scoundrels, for it was back in 2000AD that I published the correct formula relating mass and energy on a kinetic basis, which is
> e=0.5mVVN(N-k)

But there is more to energy than motion alone
Does light have kinetic energy Roy Masters?
Gravity gives light more energy without
light speeding up...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#715518

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-29 15:11 -0800
Message-ID<9e2577b2-1b93-450d-b269-1741c259a4ba@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715443
On Friday, 30 November 2018 07:08:55 UTC+11, mitchr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 1:01:48 AM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Thursday, 29 November 2018 18:55:28 UTC+11, por...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > > On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 6:50:04 AM UTC+2, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:43:49 UTC+11, por...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 6:54:15 PM UTC+2, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:59:19 AM UTC+2, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:44:14 UTC+11, por...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:32:41 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 9:51:44 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:15:03 UTC+11, Edward Prochak  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 6:40:39 AM UTC-5, john wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ari
> > > > > > > > > > > > “When light goes from less dense medium to more dense medium, it REFRACTS. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > That is the basis of the optical lensing phenomenon. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > ”
> > > > > > > > > > > > And different wavelengths bend differently.
> > > > > > > > > > > > This is not observed
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Good for you, John. You thought through the facts logically
> > > > > > > > > > > and correctly. Refraction has been long eliminated as the
> > > > > > > > > > > cause of changed stellar positions as observed in a
> > > > > > > > > > > solar eclipse.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >  Ed
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Eliminated by fiat. How unscientific!
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Space is only as flat as the flat Earth...
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >==============================
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > RIGHT   !!!!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > IF SO 
> > > > > > > > CAN IT*(space ) DO* ANYTHING ??!!!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > WITHUT THE EXISTANCE OF   MASS IN IT ??
> > > > > > > > 2
> > > > > > > > AND IF SO
> > > > > > > > WHO IS*** THE REAL FORCE MAKER*** THERE ??
> > > > > > > > (space or mass!! ??
> > > > > > > > need  one to be a genius
> > > > > > > > in   order of understanding it ????
> > > > > > > > ==
> > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > Y.P
> > > > > > > > =================
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > There is definitely a metaphysical angle to this. The Christian fundie types love all this e=mcc stuff. Probably because it keeps the universe finite and their theology thus okay. One simply has to ignore some inconvenient issues about the Earth's revolution around the Sun, and all is hunky-dory, back to the Dark Ages.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Energy has mass density.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Energy is the capacity to do work, and work is force times distance.
> > > > > > >  It is all about force, which is mass times acceleration.
> > > > > > =================
> > > > > > =very nice !!
> > > > > > but 
> > > > > > what is making that** force** that you are   talking about 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > do you see the mass there ?
> > > > > > may be it is mass that doing the  force ?
> > > > > > did you  see   a  mass   of a permanent manet 
> > > > > > that is doing force ??……
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > is  that mass   passive ??
> > > > > > or may be the  mass there 
> > > > > > IS ACTIVE ??.
> > > > > > how about some creative innovating  thinking   ? 
> > > > > > ========================
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > Y.P
> > > > > >
> > > > >  ==================
> > > > > still  no answer !!
> > > > > are my above questions too   difficult to   answer ??
> > > > 
> > > > Your questions are expressions of imbecility, so cannot be understood let alone answered.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Y.P
> > > > > 
> > > ======================
> > > Pakistani   psychopath criminal against mankind
> > > who btw
> > > 
> > > ''found'' than that 
> > > E=mc^2
> > > is not right !
> 
> What then is wrong Roy Masters?

What is wrong, first of all, is that you are wrong to call me by that name.
Why you do that is a mystery. 

e=mcc is wrong because its derivation is flawed. Its derivation is flawed because it assumes the constancy of the speed of light, which is wrong.
It also proves nothing, shows nothing, predicts nothing. It is just rubbish.

> 
> > > is  it not by  itself- a certificate that you are a psychopath ??
> > 
> > All those who believe in e=mcc are eiher fools or scoundrels, for it was back in 2000AD that I published the correct formula relating mass and energy on a kinetic basis, which is
> > e=0.5mVVN(N-k)
> 
> But there is more to energy than motion alone

Yes. Energy can be in a potential state, leading to motion and thus work.

> Does light have kinetic energy Roy Masters?

Light is aetheric disturbance. The aether is energised by a light source and passes the energy as a disturbance from the source to receiver. Light thus is a transfer of energy which also contains information; but then there has to be a sensory receiver to comprehend the information.

So, no, light is not a particle so it does not have kinetic energy. It is a natural phenomenon for energy transfer through space, involving wave motion with the aether as the medium.

> Gravity gives light more energy without
> light speeding up...

Gravity has nothing to do with light. Light bending happens because of refraction, when it passes from lower to denser medium and vice versa. And this is because light travels more slowly in a denser medium, and because the wavefront has to be preserved.

Aside: I often get the feeling here, of casting pearls before swine. But what to do, the e=mcc thugs will never let me publish in one of their journals. Physics is one huge racket, now. Social media is the only outlet. Maybe one day these words will not be gobbled by swine, or let to rot on hard rock, but find fertile moist soil to grow. I hope that happens soon. In the meantime, I am glad that I live in enlightened times...

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch

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#715278

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-11-28 20:50 -0800
Message-ID<a32433d8-46e2-452a-9392-05881fa7e9f3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715060
On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:59:19 AM UTC+2, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:44:14 UTC+11, por...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:32:41 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 9:51:44 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:15:03 UTC+11, Edward Prochak  wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 6:40:39 AM UTC-5, john wrote:
> > > > > > Ari
> > > > > > “When light goes from less dense medium to more dense medium, it REFRACTS. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That is the basis of the optical lensing phenomenon. 
> > > > > > ”
> > > > > > And different wavelengths bend differently.
> > > > > > This is not observed
> > > > > 
> > > > > Good for you, John. You thought through the facts logically
> > > > > and correctly. Refraction has been long eliminated as the
> > > > > cause of changed stellar positions as observed in a
> > > > > solar eclipse.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Ed
> > > > 
> > > > Eliminated by fiat. How unscientific!
> > > 
> > > Space is only as flat as the flat Earth...
> > > 
> > > 
> > >==============================
> > 
> > RIGHT   !!!!
> > 
> > IF SO 
> > CAN IT*(space ) DO* ANYTHING ??!!!
> > 
> > WITHUT THE EXISTANCE OF   MASS IN IT ??
> > 2
> > AND IF SO
> > WHO IS*** THE REAL FORCE MAKER*** THERE ??
> > (space or mass!! ??
> > need  one to be a genius
> > in   order of understanding it ????
> > ==
> > TIA
> > Y.P
> > =================
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > > > There is definitely a metaphysical angle to this. The Christian fundie types love all this e=mcc stuff. Probably because it keeps the universe finite and their theology thus okay. One simply has to ignore some inconvenient issues about the Earth's revolution around the Sun, and all is hunky-dory, back to the Dark Ages.
> > > 
> > > Energy has mass density.
> 
> 
> Energy is the capacity to do work, and work is force times distance.
>  It is all about force, which is mass times acceleration.
> 
> > > The universe has an absolute beginning.
> 
> 
> Who told you that?
> 
> > > And the Earth orbits the Sun...
> 
> 
> e=mcc wallahs should not think so

============================
yo are fighting the ''wind mills'
and  it want help you  

E=mc^2
is one of the greatest  ingenuities    historic  discoveries of science  
and technology    ever since  !!
===
Y.P
=================

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#715307

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-28 23:12 -0800
Message-ID<1236f73f-fa84-4c5c-af42-4b5ec33abe54@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715278
How can any imbecile drooling e=mcc be of any use to anyone?

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#715314

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-11-29 00:03 -0800
Message-ID<c6e37d1e-bcac-443d-99d3-c729dd90eb72@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715307
On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 9:12:11 AM UTC+2, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> How can any imbecile drooling e=mcc be of any use to anyone?

======================
psychopath 
E=mc^2  is one of the greatest discoveries in physics
 most of mymodel
about  nuclear structure -are based on it 
not only that
much of modern  technology is based on it!!so criminal 
piss of  to your hospital 
Y.P  

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#715315

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-11-29 00:07 -0800
Message-ID<c3e5fa84-23c7-4859-af47-85c6f4d54cce@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715314
On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 10:03:48 AM UTC+2, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 9:12:11 AM UTC+2, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > How can any imbecile drooling e=mcc be of any use to anyone?
> 
> ======================
> psychopath 
> E=mc^2  is one of the greatest discoveries in physics
>  most of mymodel
> about  nuclear structure -are based on it 
> not only that
> much of modern  technology is based on it!!so criminal 
> piss of  to your hospital 
> Y.P
=====================
let us make a 'referendum' here 
about how many peoples  hear think like you 
that  E=mc^2
is not right ??
===
TIA
Y.P
=====================

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#715616

FromSteve <invaolidz@example.net>
Date2018-11-29 18:57 -0800
Message-ID<ptq8ut$dhv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#715315
You are drooling imbecile person.

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#715766

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-11-30 14:06 -0600
Message-ID<pts57r$1qlq$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#715616
On 11/29/2018 8:57 PM, Steve wrote:
> You are drooling imbecile person.
> 

how do you know that ?  you cant see him.

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#715442

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-11-29 12:02 -0800
Message-ID<d2b85ff9-96f0-4db2-81a3-35af65d2a20d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715307
On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 11:12:11 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> How can any imbecile drooling e=mcc be of any use to anyone?

You are a tyrant over science Roy Masters...
of what good are you?

Mitchell Raemsch

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#715511

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-29 14:56 -0800
Message-ID<d6b2653a-d018-4fee-b488-39bce4d932c5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715442
On Friday, 30 November 2018 07:02:45 UTC+11, mitchr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 11:12:11 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > How can any imbecile drooling e=mcc be of any use to anyone?
> 
> You are a tyrant over science Roy Masters...

Alas, no. Had I been really a functioning tyrant I would have sacked all the e=mcc=hv blabberers, and taught the world correct physics.

> of what good are you?

Let us see. In India I developed a range of military IFF and primary radar, space, navigation, space antenna systems. For my MTech thesis I pioneered what is now known as googling, but that is only one aspect of that work. In Australia I joined Telstra Research Labs where I worked for 18 years, developing many new fields, from X.500, security protocols, CCS7 standardisation, quality of service involving queuing theory, call centre network modelling involving comprehensive simulation, very fast message passing software for intelligent robotics, numerous web portals involving databases...


Had enough of all that, so left employment and started my own business HTN Research to solve the world's energy and motion problems. The following videos show the work and its implications:


IFE - 1 Ground Experiments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqBfwAClVlg 
IFE - 2 Experimental setups  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9eGq4Oiv9s 
IFE - 3 Pendulum experiments  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3hC48BMrno 
IFE - 4 Evolution of spaceship https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sSPxGsLkws 
IFE - 5 Hydrogen Transmission Network  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJdM6UDPauU 
IFE - 6 Spaceship Design https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUAcx7rAplc 
IFE - 7 Anti-Gravity  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Zbpvc3fdA 
IFE - 8 New Physics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA9LUwqMhxY 

Those interested show see the videos in sequence.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch

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#715515

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-29 23:06 +0000
Message-ID<ptprej$1ral$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#715511
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 30 November 2018 07:02:45 UTC+11, mitchr...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 11:12:11 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> How can any imbecile drooling e=mcc be of any use to anyone?
>> 
>> You are a tyrant over science Roy Masters...
> 
> Alas, no. Had I been really a functioning tyrant I would have sacked all
> the e=mcc=hv blabberers, and taught the world correct physics.
> 
>> of what good are you?
> 
> Let us see. In India I developed a range of military IFF and primary
> radar, space, navigation, space antenna systems. For my MTech thesis I
> pioneered what is now known as googling, but that is only one aspect of
> that work. In Australia I joined Telstra Research Labs where I worked for
> 18 years, developing many new fields, from X.500, security protocols,
> CCS7 standardisation, quality of service involving queuing theory, call
> centre network modelling involving comprehensive simulation, very fast
> message passing software for intelligent robotics, numerous web portals
> involving databases...
> 
> 
> Had enough of all that, so left employment

Gee you were were doing so well in this reply until you decided to spin
this little event in your favor...

>  and started my own business HTN Research to solve the world's energy and
> motion problems. The following videos show the work and its implications:
> 
> 
> IFE - 1 Ground Experiments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqBfwAClVlg 
> IFE - 2 Experimental setups  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9eGq4Oiv9s 
> IFE - 3 Pendulum experiments  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3hC48BMrno 
> IFE - 4 Evolution of spaceship https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sSPxGsLkws 
> IFE - 5 Hydrogen Transmission Network  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJdM6UDPauU 
> IFE - 6 Spaceship Design https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUAcx7rAplc 
> IFE - 7 Anti-Gravity  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Zbpvc3fdA 
> IFE - 8 New Physics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA9LUwqMhxY 
> 
> Those interested show see the videos in sequence.
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
>> 
>> Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#715541

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-29 15:38 -0800
Message-ID<f1191e89-7a8e-4cfe-8820-c31a5eef9935@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715515
On Friday, 30 November 2018 10:07:04 UTC+11, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, 30 November 2018 07:02:45 UTC+11, mitchr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 11:12:11 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >>> How can any imbecile drooling e=mcc be of any use to anyone?
> >> 
> >> You are a tyrant over science Roy Masters...
> > 
> > Alas, no. Had I been really a functioning tyrant I would have sacked all
> > the e=mcc=hv blabberers, and taught the world correct physics.
> > 
> >> of what good are you?
> > 
> > Let us see. In India I developed a range of military IFF and primary
> > radar, space, navigation, space antenna systems. For my MTech thesis I
> > pioneered what is now known as googling, but that is only one aspect of
> > that work. In Australia I joined Telstra Research Labs where I worked for
> > 18 years, developing many new fields, from X.500, security protocols,
> > CCS7 standardisation, quality of service involving queuing theory, call
> > centre network modelling involving comprehensive simulation, very fast
> > message passing software for intelligent robotics, numerous web portals
> > involving databases...
> > 
> > 
> > Had enough of all that, so left employment
> 
> Gee you were were doing so well in this reply until you decided to spin
> this little event in your favor…

OH, all that above was for the survival of family and self. I am glad that I was good enough at my work to become financially independent, and so, do the really-really important work below, more or less on my own. (Well I did do 4 years of PhD research without much support for the general mood was hostile; nevertheless I managed to acquire what I needed to make my new experiments, so it wasn't a waste of time.)

True it is, and sad too, that pigheads or fatheads won't get it - understand the video films that is. Fortunately for me I have worked with people far superior to you and the others here in intellect and insight; so they will and do appreciate. Point now, is how to turn the new physics findings into trillions and quintillions, which will be a measure of the levels of happiness attained for all spirit and matter - animal, mineral and vegetable.


> >  and started my own business HTN Research to solve the world's energy and
> > motion problems. The following videos show the work and its implications:
> > 
> > 
> > IFE - 1 Ground Experiments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqBfwAClVlg 
> > IFE - 2 Experimental setups  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9eGq4Oiv9s 
> > IFE - 3 Pendulum experiments  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3hC48BMrno 
> > IFE - 4 Evolution of spaceship https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sSPxGsLkws 
> > IFE - 5 Hydrogen Transmission Network  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJdM6UDPauU 
> > IFE - 6 Spaceship Design https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUAcx7rAplc 
> > IFE - 7 Anti-Gravity  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Zbpvc3fdA 
> > IFE - 8 New Physics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA9LUwqMhxY 
> > 
> > Those interested show see the videos in sequence.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
> >> 
> >> Mitchell Raemsch
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#715603

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-11-29 18:05 -0800
Message-ID<090329ed-7b6c-4c32-935f-a6fd4e3ca207@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715541
Gravity changes the direction of motion.
Try to argue the truth...
And of what good are you Roy Masters?

Mitchell Raemsch

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#715667

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-11-30 01:41 -0800
Message-ID<43390b53-ea88-44f8-a2ed-03c0b63472dd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715603
On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 4:05:54 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Gravity changes the direction of motion.
> Try to argue the truth...
> And of what good are you Roy Masters?
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
====================
(:-)

but what makes gravity ??
===
Y.P
================

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#715767

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-11-30 14:06 -0600
Message-ID<pts58c$1qlq$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#715667
On 11/30/2018 3:41 AM, poraty6@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 4:05:54 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Gravity changes the direction of motion.
>> Try to argue the truth...
>> And of what good are you Roy Masters?
>>
>> Mitchell Raemsch
> ====================
> (:-)
> 
> but what makes gravity ??
> ===
> Y.P
> ================
> 
> 

     MASS !

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#715800

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-11-30 16:08 -0800
Message-ID<5be1f87d-45c6-4e0e-86a3-9151cee92e0b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715767
On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 10:06:41 PM UTC+2, Sergio wrote:
> On 11/30/2018 3:41 AM, poraty6@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 4:05:54 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Gravity changes the direction of motion.
> >> Try to argue the truth...
> >> And of what good are you Roy Masters?
> >>
> >> Mitchell Raemsch
> > ====================
> > (:-)
> > 
> > but what makes gravity ??
> > ===
> > Y.P
> > ================
> > 
> > 
> 
>      MASS !
==================================
BEAVO !!!!
thank you 

YOU GOT IT !!
even   not easy to understand it !!!!
================
Y.Porat
==========================


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#716912

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-12-06 01:34 -0800
Message-ID<0e7ae6cc-bc5a-47ed-9716-f36e0e4e3830@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715800
On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 2:08:50 AM UTC+2, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 10:06:41 PM UTC+2, Sergio wrote:
> > On 11/30/2018 3:41 AM, poraty6@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 4:05:54 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> Gravity changes the direction of motion.
> > >> Try to argue the truth...
> > >> And of what good are you Roy Masters?
> > >>
> > >> Mitchell Raemsch
> > > ====================
> > > (:-)
> > > 
> > > but what makes gravity ??
> > > ===
> > > Y.P
> > > ================
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> >      MASS !
> ==================================
> BEAVO !!!!
> thank you 
> 
> YOU GOT IT !!
> even   not easy to understand it !!!!
> ================
> Y.Porat
> ==========================

see ''the y circlon   mechanism ''
===============================================
http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
-----------------------------
at its appendix  !!
====
TIA
Y.Porat 
===============


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#715622

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-11-29 19:16 -0800
Message-ID<4862f149-8aeb-4b04-bdd5-5ed3b5aac861@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715511
On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 2:56:07 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Friday, 30 November 2018 07:02:45 UTC+11, mitchr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 11:12:11 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > How can any imbecile drooling e=mcc be of any use to anyone?
> > 
> > You are a tyrant over science Roy Masters...
> 
> Alas, no. Had I been really a functioning tyrant I would have sacked all the e=mcc=hv blabberers, and taught the world correct physics.

Your tyranny is up as sure as my God exists...
You couldn't take Him from me Roy Masters.

Mitchell Raemsch


> 
> > of what good are you?
>> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch

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#715632

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-29 20:14 -0800
Message-ID<147e5cc8-a060-4bb2-8a61-ebbc53ba04c5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715622
On Friday, 30 November 2018 14:16:12 UTC+11, mitchr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 2:56:07 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Friday, 30 November 2018 07:02:45 UTC+11, mitchr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 11:12:11 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > How can any imbecile drooling e=mcc be of any use to anyone?
> > > 
> > > You are a tyrant over science Roy Masters...
> > 
> > Alas, no. Had I been really a functioning tyrant I would have sacked all the e=mcc=hv blabberers, and taught the world correct physics.
> 
> Your tyranny is up as sure as my God exists...
> You couldn't take Him from me Roy Masters.

I knew it, these racist fundie bigots - and there are so many of them in the USA - are behind all the e=mcc=hv nonsenses. Desperate they are, to keep the universe small and finite, with a beginning, and all around the Earth. This to suit their metaphysics!

Irony is, no God (One True or one of many) would want to be anywhere near poor fools who have only Roy Masters in their heads.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> 
> > 
> > > of what good are you?
> >> > 
> > > Mitchell Raemsch

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#715634

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2018-11-29 20:27 -0800
Message-ID<ff6ed1c8-26df-4d3a-8006-d3fb7ae6efc4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715632
On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 8:14:25 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:

Who cares?

you are as bat-shit crazy as ever, Banjo-Boy...

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