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Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again?

Started byJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
First post2018-11-24 11:46 -0800
Last post2018-12-17 02:14 +0100
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  Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 11:46 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 12:57 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 15:49 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 16:34 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 20:48 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 09:27 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 20:53 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-25 11:40 -0600
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 11:26 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Steve <invalidz@example.net> - 2018-11-25 16:52 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-11-26 01:06 +0000
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 21:05 -0800
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 10:51 -0800
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Richard Cranium <involidz@example.net> - 2018-11-28 07:38 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-26 12:54 -0600
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 22:57 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 16:22 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-25 14:06 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 15:43 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 17:51 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Oscar <invalidz@example.net> - 2018-11-26 18:11 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 20:09 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 20:40 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 03:40 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 16:44 +0000
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 15:38 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 11:14 -0800
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 15:42 -0800
                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-28 01:08 +0100
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 21:51 -0800
                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 23:32 -0800
                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 23:44 -0800
                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 23:59 -0800
                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 08:54 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Buck Futter <invaolidz@example.net> - 2018-11-28 17:28 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 17:48 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 20:43 -0800
                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 20:50 -0800
                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 23:55 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 01:01 -0800
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 12:08 -0800
                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 15:11 -0800
                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 20:50 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 23:12 -0800
                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 00:03 -0800
                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 00:07 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Steve <invaolidz@example.net> - 2018-11-29 18:57 -0800
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-30 14:06 -0600
                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 12:02 -0800
                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 14:56 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 23:06 +0000
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 15:38 -0800
                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 18:05 -0800
                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 01:41 -0800
                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-30 14:06 -0600
                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 16:08 -0800
                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 01:34 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 19:16 -0800
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 20:14 -0800
                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 20:27 -0800
                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 21:59 -0800
                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 09:48 -0800
                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 11:07 -0800
                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 12:22 -0800
                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-02 18:31 -0800
                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-02 22:13 -0800
                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-02 22:14 -0800
                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-02 22:20 -0800
                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 13:28 -0800
                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-03 13:44 -0800
                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 14:38 -0800
                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-03 14:47 -0800
                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 03:32 -0800
                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 23:31 +0000
                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 17:14 -0800
                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 17:44 -0800
                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-05 18:49 -0700
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 20:00 -0800
                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 19:24 -0800
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 20:05 -0800
                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 21:08 -0800
                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 21:35 -0800
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 22:38 -0800
                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 22:52 -0800
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 22:50 -0800
                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 22:58 -0800
                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 23:14 -0800
                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 13:33 +0000
                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 07:41 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-06 16:34 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 09:45 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 09:56 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 11:16 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-06 12:26 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 11:34 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-06 12:54 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 13:42 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 19:48 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 20:35 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 08:14 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 15:58 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 16:34 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 21:46 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 22:16 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 22:32 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 23:38 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 09:45 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:43 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-12 14:46 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 23:33 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 23:40 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:51 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 20:29 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-08 23:07 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:20 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-09 09:13 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 09:40 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-09 14:37 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-10 14:03 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:34 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 21:33 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:06 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 10:06 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 16:01 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 16:36 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 04:28 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 15:25 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 07:46 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 17:18 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 09:51 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 18:05 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 10:17 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 10:44 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 13:26 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 15:05 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 17:37 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 19:22 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 21:48 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 13:08 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:26 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:27 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-10 14:09 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 15:00 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 03:17 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 23:03 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:02 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 18:14 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:25 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 18:44 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:52 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-09 05:44 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:31 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 10:49 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-09 22:36 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 23:44 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 18:28 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 02:52 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:22 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 18:22 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 20:14 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-09 20:22 -0800
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                                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 00:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-11 06:50 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 07:52 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 00:40 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 20:50 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 22:43 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-10 15:20 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 17:22 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-11 23:04 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 17:48 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 18:51 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-11 19:47 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 20:42 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 14:24 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 21:03 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Michael Moroney <moroney@TheWorld.com> - 2018-12-12 06:07 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 22:50 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-12 19:13 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 12:00 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 11:57 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 11:55 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-12 14:49 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 15:01 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-12 17:42 -0800
                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 11:14 -0800
                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 04:33 -0800
                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 07:58 -0800
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-09 14:03 -0600
                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 12:56 -0800
                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-09 14:38 -0800
                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 18:14 -0800
                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-09 19:37 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 20:32 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-09 20:48 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 12:37 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-12-16 14:01 -0800
                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-10 19:26 -0600
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 20:14 -0800
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-06 17:49 +0100
                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 13:19 -0800
                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 15:33 -0800
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 16:51 -0800
                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 17:42 -0800
                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 18:37 -0800
                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 18:53 -0800
                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 19:20 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 19:29 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 19:47 -0800
                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 19:50 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 20:08 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 20:52 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 22:09 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-08 00:19 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 03:41 -0800
                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-07 01:01 +0100
                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 04:32 -0800
                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-11 23:29 +0100
                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 20:41 -0800
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 20:46 -0800
                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 21:01 -0800
                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-07 11:35 +0100
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 03:54 -0800
                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-08 15:19 +0100
                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 16:27 +0000
                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 13:29 -0800
                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-12 07:34 +0100
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 21:55 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-15 15:05 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 17:15 -0800
                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 21:43 -0800
                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-14 05:58 +0000
                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-14 00:11 -0800
                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-15 15:03 +0100
                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 17:10 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-17 22:01 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 14:29 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-17 22:03 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 14:26 -0800
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 10:38 -0800
                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-03 20:20 -0800
                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 22:15 +0000
                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-03 23:18 +0100
                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-03 23:32 +0100
                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 15:35 -0800
                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-12 01:30 +0100
                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 17:45 -0800
                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-12 07:21 +0100
                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-14 00:32 -0800
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-15 15:18 +0100
                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-15 11:53 -0800
                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-15 17:21 -0800
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-15 21:57 -0800
                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 17:26 -0800
                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-16 18:28 -0700
                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-16 22:32 +0100
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 13:10 -0800
                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 17:17 -0800
                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-17 22:11 +0100
                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-16 23:35 -0800
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-17 12:27 -0800
                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 12:35 -0800
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-17 22:42 +0100
                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 14:33 -0800
                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-03 20:17 -0800
                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-03 20:21 -0800
                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-03 20:29 -0800
                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 19:33 -0800
                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 20:02 -0800
                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 10:36 -0800
                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-07 12:11 +0100
                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 21:13 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-30 14:30 -0600
                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 23:57 -0800
                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 21:10 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-27 15:24 -0600
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 17:56 -0800
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 12:00 -0800
                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-11-28 13:47 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 11:05 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 21:48 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 15:14 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 10:10 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-12-07 10:57 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-12 11:45 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Scott Richman <sunn@idhnonow.iv> - 2018-12-12 19:55 +0000
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-16 21:42 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-12 12:56 -0700
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-17 02:14 +0100

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#717067

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2018-12-07 12:11 +0100
Message-ID<69425870-55a2-fb5d-b620-4f138145f158@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#716518
pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 8:17:56 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> The math of light mass is C...
> 
> No, the math of light is c...

No, the _speed_ of light is c:

> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/c.html
> 
> "A lower-case c has been consistently used to denote the speed of light […]
                                                           ^^^^^
The "math of light" is more like

                  ∂²E∕∂t² = c² ∇²E
                  ∂²B∕∂t² = c² ∇²B       (electromagnetic wave equations
                                          in vacuum),

                        p = ℎ∕λ          (linear momentum of a photon),

                        E = p c = ℎ f    (Planck–Einstein relation).

and

  c²dt² − dx² − dy² − dz² = 0            (null geodesic in flat spacetime)

Do not use crackpots’ “not even wrong” terminology; you are only confirming
their misconceptions, and end up as a crackpot yourself.

This is a corollary of

  “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level
   and beat you with experience.”

    –George Carlin (1937–2008), (and others)

Finally, avoid using the buggy Google Groups Web interface for posting to
Usenet:

<http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/>

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
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#715284

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-11-28 21:13 -0800
Message-ID<600f5fa9-ddcd-4008-b1fd-551fff383120@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715060
On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 11:59:19 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:44:14 UTC+11, por...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:32:41 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 9:51:44 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:15:03 UTC+11, Edward Prochak  wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 6:40:39 AM UTC-5, john wrote:
> > > > > > Ari
> > > > > > “When light goes from less dense medium to more dense medium, it REFRACTS. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That is the basis of the optical lensing phenomenon. 
> > > > > > ”
> > > > > > And different wavelengths bend differently.
> > > > > > This is not observed
> > > > > 
> > > > > Good for you, John. You thought through the facts logically
> > > > > and correctly. Refraction has been long eliminated as the
> > > > > cause of changed stellar positions as observed in a
> > > > > solar eclipse.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Ed
> > > > 
> > > > Eliminated by fiat. How unscientific!
> > > 
> > > Space is only as flat as the flat Earth...
> > > 
> > > 
> > >==============================
> > 
> > RIGHT   !!!!
> > 
> > IF SO 
> > CAN IT*(space ) DO* ANYTHING ??!!!
> > 
> > WITHUT THE EXISTANCE OF   MASS IN IT ??
> > 2
> > AND IF SO
> > WHO IS*** THE REAL FORCE MAKER*** THERE ??
> > (space or mass!! ??
> > need  one to be a genius
> > in   order of understanding it ????
> > ==
> > TIA
> > Y.P
> > =================
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > > > There is definitely a metaphysical angle to this. The Christian fundie types love all this e=mcc stuff. Probably because it keeps the universe finite and their theology thus okay. One simply has to ignore some inconvenient issues about the Earth's revolution around the Sun, and all is hunky-dory, back to the Dark Ages.
> > > 
> > > Energy has mass density.
> 
> 
> Energy is the capacity to do work, and work is force times distance.
>  It is all about force, which is mass times acceleration.
> 
> > > The universe has an absolute beginning.
> 
> 
> Who told you that?

No one. who told you Roy Masters?

> > > And the Earth orbits the Sun...
> 
> 
> e=mcc wallahs should not think so

That equation has something right...
And you don't have a real science to
replace it. Energy has density.
Light is the lightest form...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#715774

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-11-30 14:30 -0600
Message-ID<pts6l7$1t55$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#715284
On 11/28/2018 11:13 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 11:59:19 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:44:14 UTC+11, por...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:32:41 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 9:51:44 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:15:03 UTC+11, Edward Prochak  wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 6:40:39 AM UTC-5, john wrote:
>>>>>>> Ari
>>>>>>> “When light goes from less dense medium to more dense medium, it REFRACTS. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is the basis of the optical lensing phenomenon. 
>>>>>>> ”
>>>>>>> And different wavelengths bend differently.
>>>>>>> This is not observed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good for you, John. You thought through the facts logically
>>>>>> and correctly. Refraction has been long eliminated as the
>>>>>> cause of changed stellar positions as observed in a
>>>>>> solar eclipse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Ed
>>>>>
>>>>> Eliminated by fiat. How unscientific!
>>>>
>>>> Space is only as flat as the flat Earth...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ==============================
>>>
>>> RIGHT   !!!!
>>>
>>> IF SO 
>>> CAN IT*(space ) DO* ANYTHING ??!!!
>>>
>>> WITHUT THE EXISTANCE OF   MASS IN IT ??
>>> 2
>>> AND IF SO
>>> WHO IS*** THE REAL FORCE MAKER*** THERE ??
>>> (space or mass!! ??
>>> need  one to be a genius
>>> in   order of understanding it ????
>>> ==
>>> TIA
>>> Y.P
>>> =================
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>>> There is definitely a metaphysical angle to this. The Christian fundie types love all this e=mcc stuff. Probably because it keeps the universe finite and their theology thus okay. One simply has to ignore some inconvenient issues about the Earth's revolution around the Sun, and all is hunky-dory, back to the Dark Ages.
>>>>
>>>> Energy has mass density.
>>
>>
>> Energy is the capacity to do work, and work is force times distance.
>>  It is all about force, which is mass times acceleration.
>>
>>>> The universe has an absolute beginning.
>>
>>
>> Who told you that?
> 
> No one. who told you Roy Masters?

ZOD told him that.  KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!

> 
>>>> And the Earth orbits the Sun...
>>
>>
>> e=mcc wallahs should not think so
> 
> That equation has something right...
> And you don't have a real science to
> replace it. Energy has density.
> Light is the lightest form...
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 

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#715059

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-27 23:57 -0800
Message-ID<c2a5c145-b6c2-45eb-b8fc-d2598854006f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715053
On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:32:41 UTC+11, mitchr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 9:51:44 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:15:03 UTC+11, Edward Prochak  wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 6:40:39 AM UTC-5, john wrote:
> > > > Ari
> > > > “When light goes from less dense medium to more dense medium, it REFRACTS. 
> > > > 
> > > > That is the basis of the optical lensing phenomenon. 
> > > > ”
> > > > And different wavelengths bend differently.
> > > > This is not observed
> > > 
> > > Good for you, John. You thought through the facts logically
> > > and correctly. Refraction has been long eliminated as the
> > > cause of changed stellar positions as observed in a
> > > solar eclipse.
> > > 
> > >  Ed
> > 
> > Eliminated by fiat. How unscientific!
> 
> Space is only as flat as the flat Earth...

Get your eyes checked, and see a dictionary.
> 
> > 
> > There is definitely a metaphysical angle to this. The Christian fundie types love all this e=mcc stuff. Probably because it keeps the universe finite and their theology thus okay. One simply has to ignore some inconvenient issues about the Earth's revolution around the Sun, and all is hunky-dory, back to the Dark Ages.
> 
> Energy has mass density.
> The universe has an absolute beginning.
> And the Earth orbits the Sun...

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#715283

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-11-28 21:10 -0800
Message-ID<cae1bae3-66bc-4eea-877c-45e8e4391f2b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715059
On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 11:57:21 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:32:41 UTC+11, mitchr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 9:51:44 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:15:03 UTC+11, Edward Prochak  wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 6:40:39 AM UTC-5, john wrote:
> > > > > Ari
> > > > > “When light goes from less dense medium to more dense medium, it REFRACTS. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > That is the basis of the optical lensing phenomenon. 
> > > > > ”
> > > > > And different wavelengths bend differently.
> > > > > This is not observed
> > > > 
> > > > Good for you, John. You thought through the facts logically
> > > > and correctly. Refraction has been long eliminated as the
> > > > cause of changed stellar positions as observed in a
> > > > solar eclipse.
> > > > 
> > > >  Ed
> > > 
> > > Eliminated by fiat. How unscientific!
> > 
> > Space is only as flat as the flat Earth...
> 
> Get your eyes checked, and see a dictionary.

… From Roy Masters the hypnotist...
What did you see?

> > > 
> > > There is definitely a metaphysical angle to this. The Christian fundie types love all this e=mcc stuff. Probably because it keeps the universe finite and their theology thus okay. One simply has to ignore some inconvenient issues about the Earth's revolution around the Sun, and all is hunky-dory, back to the Dark Ages.
> > 
> > Energy has mass density.
> > The universe has an absolute beginning.
> > And the Earth orbits the Sun...

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#715004

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-11-27 15:24 -0600
Message-ID<ptkclf$d60$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#714948
On 11/27/2018 5:40 AM, john wrote:
> Ari
> “When light goes from less dense medium to more dense medium, it REFRACTS. 
> 
> That is the basis of the optical lensing phenomenon. 
> ”
> And different wavelengths bend differently.
> This is not observed
> 

my glasses work that way, some of the non-bendie wavelengths you can't
see anyway.

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#715030

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-27 17:56 -0800
Message-ID<b84d0bc3-3cc9-47d9-9b17-55f91ff263c6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714948
On Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:40:39 UTC+11, john  wrote:
> Ari
> “When light goes from less dense medium to more dense medium, it REFRACTS.


Which is what all sane people agree upon, except the e=mcc=hv madmen and badmen who will say that one de Broglie is doing the refracting.

> That is the basis of the optical lensing phenomenon. 
> ”
> And different wavelengths bend differently.
> This is not observed

Newton found that out with his prism. Light is composed of different wavelengths, of different frequencies. Denser medium's refractive index varies with the frequency. The higher frequencies are refracted more, as the components of light at higher frequencies travel less slowly (have lesser speed than the lower frequencies) in the denser medium. This explains the natural phenomenon of the rainbow.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

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#715174

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-28 12:00 -0800
Message-ID<e81a8d65-e588-4b27-9830-2e52c7e1951c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#715030
On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 5:56:29 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:40:39 UTC+11, john  wrote:
> > Ari
> > “When light goes from less dense medium to more dense medium, it REFRACTS.
> 
> 
> Which is what all sane people agree upon, except the e=mcc=hv madmen and badmen who will say that one de Broglie is doing the refracting.
> 
> > That is the basis of the optical lensing phenomenon. 
> > ”
> > And different wavelengths bend differently.
> > This is not observed
> 
> Newton found that out with his prism. Light is composed of different wavelengths, of different frequencies. Denser medium's refractive index varies with the frequency. The higher frequencies are refracted more, as the components of light at higher frequencies travel less slowly (have lesser speed than the lower frequencies) in the denser medium. This explains the natural phenomenon of the rainbow.
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee

It curves photons.Proven Bert

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#715198

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-11-28 13:47 -0800
Message-ID<ptn2ja$9fq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#715174
"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote
> Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >
john wrote:
> > Ari
> > “When light goes from less dense medium to more
> > dense medium, it REFRACTS.
>
Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> Which is what all sane people agree upon, except
the e=mcc=hv madmen and badmen who will say
that one de Broglie is doing the refracting.
>
john wrote:
> > That is the basis of the optical lensing phenomenon.
> > And different wavelengths bend differently.
> > This is not observed
>
Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> Newton found that out with his prism. Light is composed
of different wavelengths, of different frequencies. Denser
medium's refractive index varies with the frequency. The
higher frequencies are refracted more, as the components
of light at higher frequencies travel less slowly (have lesser
speed than the lower frequencies) in the denser medium.
This explains the natural phenomenon of the rainbow.
>
Enter SwineBert, who says he know how everything works,
It curves Jewish photons.Proven by Bert's Judenphysik. Bert 

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#714998

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-11-27 11:05 -0800
Message-ID<e035371d-0229-486f-b63c-d1a407a24b9a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714924
On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 8:40:38 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Tuesday, 27 November 2018 15:09:35 UTC+11, mitchr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 3:43:22 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > On Sunday, 25 November 2018 06:46:06 UTC+11, James McGinn  wrote:
> > > > Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  
> > > 
> > > So is claimed by the e=mcc=hv Einsteinan devils, as a "proof" for their ridiculous theories of relativity.
> > > 
> > > > Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)
> > > 
> > > Of course this is the obvious explanation. I have been making it since 2003 or earlier. The Sun's outer atmosphere is acting as an optical lens. What is a simple optical phenomenon is being passed off as proof of GR. Heh. 
> > > 
> > > > Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?
> > > 
> > > Gravity does not bend light, but appears to from the moving Earth platform. So when the light goes straight away from the Earth - really - it APPEARS to be bending from the Earth platform, and this happens because the Earth too is moving. Now, this APPARENT bending of light is said to be caused by Earth's gravity. Which is false. Similarly for GPS - the maths works because of conformal mapping (keeping the Earth still and twist up the maths), a great case of two wrongs making a right.
> > > 
> > > > Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> > > 
> > > Stars are too far away, James. We need to know what is what right beneath our feet. Is the centre of the Earth, Sun, Jupiter or any other large body with a magnetic field very cold, or very hot?  
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > 
> > > > James McGinn
> > 
> > There is a difference between Sun's atmosphere diffracting light
> > and gravity redirection of light's motion.
> 
> Gravity does not redirect light.
> 
> The Sun's atmosphere is denser than space.
> 
> When light goes from less dense medium to more dense medium, it REFRACTS.
> 
> That is the basis of the optical lensing phenomenon.
> 
> So as the Sun has an atmosphere (a fact neglected by the Einsteinian devils) the light HAS to bend as per the laws of optics.

But it bends in all directions...
And that is not what we see...
Sobral shows that gravity curves light in
one direction alone.

Mitchell Raemsch

> 
> That it is supposed to bend due to gravity, is the greatest sleight-of-hand in the history of science.
> 
> 
> And this most obvious and ridiculous nonsense, is accepted as the highest sense in all countries and preached in all universities.
> 
> 
> What greater infamy can be conceived among supposedly honourable people?
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
> 
> 
>  The diffraction won't work.
> > It happens stochastically. It is causing light redirection
> > in all directions. Thus average no net effect. But we see what gravity
> > is predicted to do alone. It does it in the direction Sobral
> > demonstrated.
> > 
> > Show how diffraction would do what gravity would do Roy Masters...
> > if it goes in all directions?
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch

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#715041

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-27 21:48 -0800
Message-ID<78ae05ad-11f7-44a2-973c-21a23e47c72a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714998
On Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:06:00 UTC+11, mitchr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 8:40:38 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 27 November 2018 15:09:35 UTC+11, mitchr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > > On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 3:43:22 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, 25 November 2018 06:46:06 UTC+11, James McGinn  wrote:
> > > > > Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  
> > > > 
> > > > So is claimed by the e=mcc=hv Einsteinan devils, as a "proof" for their ridiculous theories of relativity.
> > > > 
> > > > > Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)
> > > > 
> > > > Of course this is the obvious explanation. I have been making it since 2003 or earlier. The Sun's outer atmosphere is acting as an optical lens. What is a simple optical phenomenon is being passed off as proof of GR. Heh. 
> > > > 
> > > > > Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?
> > > > 
> > > > Gravity does not bend light, but appears to from the moving Earth platform. So when the light goes straight away from the Earth - really - it APPEARS to be bending from the Earth platform, and this happens because the Earth too is moving. Now, this APPARENT bending of light is said to be caused by Earth's gravity. Which is false. Similarly for GPS - the maths works because of conformal mapping (keeping the Earth still and twist up the maths), a great case of two wrongs making a right.
> > > > 
> > > > > Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> > > > 
> > > > Stars are too far away, James. We need to know what is what right beneath our feet. Is the centre of the Earth, Sun, Jupiter or any other large body with a magnetic field very cold, or very hot?  
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > 
> > > > > James McGinn
> > > 
> > > There is a difference between Sun's atmosphere diffracting light
> > > and gravity redirection of light's motion.
> > 
> > Gravity does not redirect light.
> > 
> > The Sun's atmosphere is denser than space.
> > 
> > When light goes from less dense medium to more dense medium, it REFRACTS.
> > 
> > That is the basis of the optical lensing phenomenon.
> > 
> > So as the Sun has an atmosphere (a fact neglected by the Einsteinian devils) the light HAS to bend as per the laws of optics.
> 
> But it bends in all directions...

It has to bend as per the variation in speed from lighter to denser medium, and let us not forget that the refractive index varies with frequency. So some components of light (higher frequency) get more bent than those of lower frequency.

> And that is not what we see...
> Sobral shows that gravity curves light in
> one direction alone.

That is why it is called "gravitational lensing" as the Sun acts as an optical lens. The fact is that with its atmosphere which is denser than vacuum the Sun *IS* an optical lens.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> > 
> > That it is supposed to bend due to gravity, is the greatest sleight-of-hand in the history of science.
> > 
> > 
> > And this most obvious and ridiculous nonsense, is accepted as the highest sense in all countries and preached in all universities.
> > 
> > 
> > What greater infamy can be conceived among supposedly honourable people?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
> > 
> > 
> >  The diffraction won't work.
> > > It happens stochastically. It is causing light redirection
> > > in all directions. Thus average no net effect. But we see what gravity
> > > is predicted to do alone. It does it in the direction Sobral
> > > demonstrated.
> > > 
> > > Show how diffraction would do what gravity would do Roy Masters...
> > > if it goes in all directions?
> > > 
> > > Mitchell Raemsch

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#715521

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2018-11-29 15:14 -0800
Message-ID<d802661c-fa2e-4245-a3bf-57def6534152@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714456
This paper will analyze the wave theory of light.  Huygens describes the propagation of light using spherical waves formed by the motion of an ether, composed of matter, yet light propagates in vacuum that is void of matter.  Fresnel derived a diffraction intensity equation using interfering spherical waves based on "Huygens' principle" but Huygens' spherical waves do not interfere. Maxwell introduces an electromagnetic theory of light based on Faraday's induction effect since induction forms in vacuum but Faraday's induction effect is not luminous. Michelson tests for the existence of Fresnel's ether using an interferometer but the result was negative.  Hertz's radio waves are used to justify Maxwell's theory but radio waves do not alter the fact that Maxwell's theory is based on Faraday's induction effect that is not luminous. Lorentz uses a transformation to reverse the negative result of Michelson's experiment to justify the existence of Fresnel's ether but light propagates in vacuum which proves the ether does not exist. Lenard proves light is composed of particles which conflicts with the continuity of Maxwell's electromagnetic field. In special relativity (1905), Einstein alters the coordinate system of Maxwell's equations to justify Maxwell's theory but manipulating the coordinate system does not change the fact that Maxwell's equations are derived using Faraday's induction effect that is not luminous. Einstein (1910) describes an electromagnetic ether which conflicts with Huygens-Fresnel ether that remains stationary after the light wave propagates through the ether. 

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#717098

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-07 10:10 -0800
Message-ID<ab37f5a8-a1ed-408e-ad6f-fde98a720d50@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714456
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  
> 
> Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)
> 
> Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?
> 
> Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> 
> James McGinn

NO Bert

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#717118

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-12-07 10:57 -0800
Message-ID<puefsn$vvi$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#717098
"homo-reber G=emc^2" <herbertgay-lazier0@gmail.com> is 
<http://tinyurl.com/The-Chosen-Graveyard-Vandal> who wrote:
"Dog is God spelled backward, just like *Treb* is Bert, when
spelled backwards. *Treb* is short for *The reeking excrement 
bucket* that Bert shits into in his Van. Go figure. O ya". Bert.

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#717917

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-12-12 11:45 -0800
Message-ID<6d925dfb-d27d-40b9-9968-1bbe97a9c0f7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714456
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  

There is no evidence for straight light in gravity.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#717919

FromScott Richman <sunn@idhnonow.iv>
Date2018-12-12 19:55 +0000
Message-ID<purp2u$1f58$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#717917
mitchrae3323 wrote:

> On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
>> Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by
>> gravity?
> 
> There is no evidence for straight light in gravity. Mitchell Raemsch

go prove.

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#718931

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-12-16 21:42 -0800
Message-ID<afe6acaa-f432-4c44-ac98-b506e8562124@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#717919
On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 11:55:20 AM UTC-8, Scott Richman wrote:
> mitchrae3323 wrote:
> 
> > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> >> Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by
> >> gravity?
> > 
> > There is no evidence for straight light in gravity. Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> go prove.

God creates gravity.

Where can you find the evidence for straight path light under gravity?
No. I didn't think so...


Mitchell Raemsch

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#717920

From% <%>
Date2018-12-12 12:56 -0700
Message-ID<bqoemd.evk.17.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#717917
On 2018-12-12 12:45 p.m., mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
>> Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?
> 
> There is no evidence for straight light in gravity.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 

there is no light its illumination

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#718889

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2018-12-17 02:14 +0100
Message-ID<b6153ae5-1ab5-59f7-b066-e086cc4b27a6@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#717920
% wrote:
> On 2018-12-12 12:45 p.m., mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
>>> Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?
>> There is no evidence for straight light in gravity.
> 
> there is no light its illumination

How you three of you can post such a ridiculous nonsense
to a scientific newsgroup is truly beyond my understanding.

Are you all very lonely, perhaps?

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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