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| First post | 2018-11-15 23:22 -0800 |
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IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-15 23:22 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-15 23:44 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 17:22 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-17 16:05 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 12:08 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-16 04:36 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 13:15 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-16 06:57 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 02:00 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-16 23:12 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 19:19 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-17 16:17 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 13:57 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 06:43 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 07:04 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Melvin <invalid@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 07:58 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 17:07 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:30 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 09:52 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 17:07 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 10:46 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-18 19:50 +0100
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 11:04 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-18 22:03 +0100
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 19:54 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 12:23 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 21:33 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 16:43 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 06:20 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 09:00 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 00:10 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 20:51 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 14:19 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 02:51 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 00:20 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 02:13 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 14:04 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 02:24 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 14:04 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 06:09 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 15:02 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 22:23 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 22:34 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 22:46 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 14:04 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 08:47 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 08:55 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 18:43 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 11:09 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 21:32 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 15:52 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 14:22 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 16:42 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 09:19 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 22:00 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 02:44 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Ricardo Efftardo <invalid@example.net> - 2018-11-21 16:15 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 17:30 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 18:43 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 23:17 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 12:35 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 21:33 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 16:38 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 06:54 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 07:09 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 19:19 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 14:33 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 00:17 +0000
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-17 21:45 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 00:12 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! "Hoofington P. McSnort" <invalid@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 08:00 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:30 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-18 17:00 -0600
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 16:56 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 18:34 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 23:22 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 03:29 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! "Hoofington P. McSnort" <invalid@example.net> - 2018-11-20 16:54 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 21:23 -0800
Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Mutt Buncher <invalid@ezamplee.com> - 2018-11-17 07:26 -0800
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-18 10:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9b69a032-ac7c-4db8-bf51-0476ac3a9bb8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #713222 |
Odd “n’t justify. It’s just what you personally believe, John. Your choice to believe” Points can’t exist because if you don’t have dimensions you can’t define spin Suck Gravity is impossible because outgoing energy can’t suddenly b come incoming energy Fields are a measure of energy flow through a space- they have no identity of their own Etc etc You’re some kind of savage with a bone through your nose, right?
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-11-18 19:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bd53bf0b-b797-2641-bcbd-618c694d0e15@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #713237 |
john wrote on 18.11.2018 19:46: > Odd > “n’t justify. > It’s just what you personally believe, John. Your choice to believe” > Points can’t exist because if you don’t have dimensions you can’t define spin > Suck Gravity is impossible because outgoing energy can’t suddenly b come incoming energy > Fields are a measure of energy flow through a space- they have no identity of their own > Etc etc > You’re some kind of savage with a bone through your nose, right? You seem to have experience in that area, savagery and all. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-18 11:04 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <0e2f81f0-62fe-4ace-afdc-a7b8f0b41a3f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #713238 |
Point “You seem to have experience in that area, savagery and all. ” Knowing exactly how things work for decades and nobody believing you will do that. I have two areas of frustration, you guys and HSV2. They’ve finally determined that some kind of HSV is behind ALL arthritis. I pegged HSV2 for arthritis, heart disease, hair loss, and depression 25 years ago. As well as a few other things, including interference in puberty for infected individuals.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-11-18 22:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <dd16d9d9-173a-c36e-1e13-2f59354a44ec@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #713241 |
Will you ever learn how to quote properly?
[Quotation repaired]
john wrote:
> Point
Who?
>> “You seem to have experience in that area, savagery and all. ”
>
> Knowing exactly how things work for decades
No, you just *believe* that you know that.
Rest assured that this is NOT so.
> and nobody believing you
This is not about belief. It is about logic and observation.
Your claims defy all logic, and observation falsifies your claims.
For example, IIRC, I had explained to you how a PET scanner works (beta-plus
decay with a neutrino channel, M/A pair annihilation, and photon detection),
which you probably encountered in real life because of your *physical*
illnesses; it works based on the conservation of total energy, electric
charge and momentum. This machine could not have been built if we were not
*sufficiently* *certain* that Nature works this way.
Yet you kept claiming that it works differently, in a way that does not even
make sense *in words*. Such a behavior on your part is *insane*, a sign of
a *mental* illness, too.
> will do that.
It is *your* problem if you let your emotions cloud your judgment.
You must learn to control your emotions, or they will be your undoing.
> I have two areas of frustration, you guys and HSV2. […]
See above.
This is a scientific newsgroup where *facts* matter; it is NOT your
feel-well group where your feelings and your fantasies about things
matter in any way. Also, nobody here cares about your life’s story.
If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!
And if you really think about it: Is it not completely irrational on your
part to keep frequenting a place where you *know* that you are not welcome
(for whatever reason, although in this case the reason is the *proved*
*nonsense* that you post)? What is the point of hanging on? Why not enjoy
*real* life while you can?
--
PointedEars
Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-18 19:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pssg12$1796$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #713237 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “n’t justify. > It’s just what you personally believe, John. Your choice to believe” > Points can’t exist because if you don’t have dimensions you can’t define spin Oh yes you can. You’re thinking about spinning extended objects — a COLLOQUIAL meaning of spin, not quantum mechanical spin. Don’t say that it can’t be defined if you have no idea what the definition is. > Suck Gravity is impossible because outgoing energy can’t suddenly b come incoming energy There is no outgoing energy or incoming energy. This is your OWN fabrication, something you’ve layered on attractive gravity to make it seem impossible. It’s NOT THERE. > Fields are a measure of energy flow through a space- they have no identity of their own Bullshit. Another thing you’ve made up, because YOU DON’T KNOW what a field is in the first place, and so you make something up. > Etc etc > You’re some kind of savage with a bone through your nose, right? > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | yporat08@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-18 12:23 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <2f59b3a0-5a58-4421-9fa7-8bb7b9d5493f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #713248 |
On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 9:54:15 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > > Odd > > “n’t justify. > > It’s just what you personally believe, John. Your choice to believe” > > Points can’t exist because if you don’t have dimensions you can’t define spin ==================== Mr parrot spin is some movement,, no matter what movement now idiot parrot movement is change in location you cannot notice change in location if you don't have even find a single point unless it is defined by some mass!! vacuum has no points to hold on it !! no mass no detectable points got it ?? no chance !!! ====> > Oh yes you can. You’re thinking about spinning extended objects — a > COLLOQUIAL meaning of spin, not quantum mechanical spin. Don’t say that it > can’t be defined if you have no idea what the definition is. > > > Suck Gravity is impossible because outgoing energy can’t suddenly b come incoming energy ============== and no mass'' no energy-- one big nothing and if still you dont know energy ha mass the only mass !!!not relativistic andn ot schmelativistic! ==== > > There is no outgoing energy or incoming energy. This is your OWN > fabrication, something you’ve layered on attractive gravity to make it seem > impossible. It’s NOT THERE. ================== indeed nothing if there is no mass and your original space ''has no mass in short ===================================== no mass no real physics'' ==================================== if your space has no mass in it than it is not curved not shmerved !!! ============================== > > > Fields are a measure of energy flow through a space- they have no identity of their own > > Bullshit. Another thing you’ve made up, because YOU DON’T KNOW what a field > is in the first place, and so you make something up. > ===================== field s as well has mass the only mass ! ==========================================!!~ > > Etc etc > > You’re some kind of savage with a bone through your nose, right?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-18 21:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <psslqr$1h1v$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #713253 |
<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 9:54:15 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Odd >>> nt justify. >>> Its just what you personally believe, John. Your choice to believe >>> Points cant exist because if you dont have dimensions you cant define spin > > ===================Mr parrot > > spin is some movement,, no matter what movement No. Not in quantum mechanics. Don’t foist your impressions on a concept you know nothing about. > now > idiot parrot > movement is change in location > you cannot notice change in location if you don't have even > find a single point > unless it is defined by some mass!! > vacuum has no points to hold on it !! > > no mass no detectable points > got it ?? > no chance !!! > ====> >> Oh yes you can. Youre thinking about spinning extended objects a >> COLLOQUIAL meaning of spin, not quantum mechanical spin. Dont say that it >> cant be defined if you have no idea what the definition is. >> >>> Suck Gravity is impossible because outgoing energy cant suddenly b come incoming energy > =============and > no mass'' no energy-- one big nothing > and if still you dont know > energy ha mass the only mass !!!not relativistic andn ot schmelativistic! > ==== >> >> There is no outgoing energy or incoming energy. This is your OWN >> fabrication, something youve layered on attractive gravity to make it seem >> impossible. Its NOT THERE. > =================indeed nothing if there is no mass > and your original space ''has no mass > in short > ====================================no mass no real physics'' > ===================================if your space has no mass in it than > it is not curved not shmerved !!! > =============================> >>> Fields are a measure of energy flow through a space- they have no identity of their own >> >> Bullshit. Another thing youve made up, because YOU DONT KNOW what a field >> is in the first place, and so you make something up. >> > ====================field s as well has mass the only mass ! > ==========================================!!~ >>> Etc etc >>> Youre some kind of savage with a bone through your nose, right? > > > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | yporat08@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-18 16:43 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <0241fe6b-6230-4d28-a57c-ae79b09f947e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #713272 |
On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 11:33:21 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: > <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 9:54:15 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Odd > >>> n t justify. > >>> It s just what you personally believe, John. Your choice to believe > >>> Points can t exist because if you don t have dimensions you can t define spin > > > > ===================Mr parrot > > > > spin is some movement,, no matter what movement > > No. Not in quantum mechanics. Don’t foist your impressions on a concept you > know nothing about. > > > now > > idiot parrot > > movement is change in location > > you cannot notice change in location if you don't have even > > find a single point > > unless it is defined by some mass!! > > vacuum has no points to hold on it !! > > > > no mass no detectable points > > got it ?? > > no chance !!! > > ====> > >> Oh yes you can. You re thinking about spinning extended objects a > >> COLLOQUIAL meaning of spin, not quantum mechanical spin. Don t say that it > >> can t be defined if you have no idea what the definition is. > >> > >>> Suck Gravity is impossible because outgoing energy can t suddenly b come incoming energy > > =============and > > no mass'' no energy-- one big nothing > > and if still you dont know > > energy ha mass the only mass !!!not relativistic andn ot schmelativistic! > > ==== > >> > >> There is no outgoing energy or incoming energy. This is your OWN > >> fabrication, something you ve layered on attractive gravity to make it seem > >> impossible. It s NOT THERE. > > =================indeed nothing if there is no mass > > and your original space ''has no mass > > in short > > ====================================no mass no real physics'' > > ===================================if your space has no mass in it than > > it is not curved not shmerved !!! > > =============================> > >>> Fields are a measure of energy flow through a space- they have no identity of their own > >> > >> Bullshit. Another thing you ve made up, because YOU DON T KNOW what a field > >> is in the first place, and so you make something up. > >> > > ====================field s as well has mass the only mass ! > > ==========================================!!~ > >>> Etc etc > >>> You re some kind of savage with a bone through your nose, right? > > > > >================== master of obfuscation !! q m has nothing to do with it in that case it is HAND WAVINGS in which crock s like you aere experts ========================= ==Y.P
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <psucvg$4gj$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #713298 |
<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 11:33:21 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 9:54:15 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Odd >>>>> n t justify. >>>>> It s just what you personally believe, John. Your choice to believe >>>>> Points can t exist because if you don t have dimensions you can t define spin >>> >>> ===================Mr parrot >>> >>> spin is some movement,, no matter what movement >> >> No. Not in quantum mechanics. Dont foist your impressions on a concept you >> know nothing about. >> >>> now >>> idiot parrot >>> movement is change in location >>> you cannot notice change in location if you don't have even >>> find a single point >>> unless it is defined by some mass!! >>> vacuum has no points to hold on it !! >>> >>> no mass no detectable points >>> got it ?? >>> no chance !!! >>> ====> >>>> Oh yes you can. You re thinking about spinning extended objects a >>>> COLLOQUIAL meaning of spin, not quantum mechanical spin. Don t say that it >>>> can t be defined if you have no idea what the definition is. >>>> >>>>> Suck Gravity is impossible because outgoing energy can t suddenly b >>>>> come incoming energy >>> =============and >>> no mass'' no energy-- one big nothing >>> and if still you dont know >>> energy ha mass the only mass !!!not relativistic andn ot schmelativistic! >>> ==== >>>> >>>> There is no outgoing energy or incoming energy. This is your OWN >>>> fabrication, something you ve layered on attractive gravity to make it seem >>>> impossible. It s NOT THERE. >>> =================indeed nothing if there is no mass >>> and your original space ''has no mass >>> in short >>> ====================================no mass no real physics'' >>> ===================================if your space has no mass in it than >>> it is not curved not shmerved !!! >>> =============================> >>>>> Fields are a measure of energy flow through a space- they have no identity of their own >>>> >>>> Bullshit. Another thing you ve made up, because YOU DON T KNOW what a field >>>> is in the first place, and so you make something up. >>>> >>> ====================field s as well has mass the only mass ! >>> ==========================================!!~ >>>>> Etc etc >>>>> You re some kind of savage with a bone through your nose, right? >>> >>> >> =================master of obfuscation !! > > q m > has nothing to do with it > in that case it is HAND WAVINGS QM spin is what he was talking about. Catch up. > > in which crock s like you > aere experts > ==========================Y.P > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 06:20 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <de51ed38-7587-411e-830c-4142aeaf4a78@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #713323 |
Odd “QM spin is what he was talking about. Catch up. ” Which has no equivalent in real life
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| From | yporat08@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 09:00 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <51730127-c13b-4471-9dec-55c186aa8e8d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #713325 |
On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 4:20:51 PM UTC+2, john wrote: > Odd > “QM spin is what he was talking about. Catch up. ” > > Which has no equivalent in real life ==================== Thank you john!!! now another (among endless Questions): --CAN THERE BE 'CURVED SPACE' WITHOUT THE EXISTANS / (PRESENCE) OF MASS )!!!?? ===== TIA Y.P ========================
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 00:10 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d7bb38e9-bd89-4996-8049-106a7181c19c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #713357 |
On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 7:00:54 PM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 4:20:51 PM UTC+2, john wrote: > > Odd > > “QM spin is what he was talking about. Catch up. ” > > > > Which has no equivalent in real life > > ==================== > Thank you john!!! > now another (among endless Questions): > > --CAN THERE BE 'CURVED SPACE' > WITHOUT THE EXISTANS / (PRESENCE) OF MASS )!!!?? > > ===== > TIA > Y.P > ======================== difficult questions ? Bodkin can answer only 'as you like it questions === TIA Y.P =====================
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 20:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <psv7oj$1kul$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #713325 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “QM spin is what he was talking about. Catch up. ” > > Which has no equivalent in real life > QM *is* real life. You are confusing real life with what you can see in the macro world with your senses. According to you, atoms, genes, neutrinos, microwaves don’t exist in the real world because you can’t hold them in your hand or draw them. Real life involves a ton more than what 3rd graders can see. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 14:19 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <065ea53a-371b-45d9-870f-30fe4a247ec2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #713397 |
Odd “You are confusing real life with what you can see in the macro world with your senses. ” No. I’m saying your point particle QM spin is fantasy. Along with most of QM. I don’t get how you believe in that nonsense
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 02:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <psvsr0$iad$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #713414 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “You are confusing real life with what you can see in the macro world with > your senses. ” > No. > I’m saying your point particle QM spin is fantasy. > Along with most of QM. > I don’t get how you believe in that nonsense > Your incredulity is no match for data. Sorry. It just doesn’t matter what you find incomprehensible. Understand why? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 00:20 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9fa2f073-d6f0-426f-8fe8-ff8abe620e76@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #713461 |
Odd “Your incredulity is no match for data.” Which is fudged by things like DM and ‘renormalizing’? Right- data
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 02:13 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <bfc48352-06ff-4577-9843-d04f23a4037a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #713481 |
On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 10:20:57 AM UTC+2, john wrote:
> Odd
> “Your incredulity is no match for data.”
> Which is fudged by things like DM and ‘renormalizing’?
> Right- data
========================
right !!
now more questions to ODD
1
as you know
physics is among the others a quantitative science
if so
please tell us :
1
what are the length dimensions of curved space ?
do you measure it in
Meter^2
do you measure may be in
Meter^3 ?
2
how does curved space 'know'' that
there is some mass near by ??
and then immediately curve around it ?
sort of an octopus with long flexible 'arms ??
or may be it has some 'smell sense ''to detect mass and then immediately overlap on it(all over or may be not allover ??
or may be not immediately !!
======================
you see I am a strange curious old man
('''that has to retire''' immediately ( according to a quote from you ?)
BTW
did it occur to you that 'age' might sometimes be rather an -advantage ??
=============
Y.P
=====================
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 14:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pt149p$n8h$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #713483 |
<poraty6@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 10:20:57 AM UTC+2, john wrote:
>> Odd
>> Your incredulity is no match for data.
>> Which is fudged by things like DM and renormalizing?
>> Right- data
> =======================right !!
>
> now more questions to ODD
> 1
> as you know
> physics is among the others a quantitative science
Note that none of the questions below are quantitative. They are
qualitative. Do you know what quantitative means?
> if so
> please tell us :
> 1
>
> what are the length dimensions of curved space ?
> do you measure it in
> Meter^2
> do you measure may be in
> Meter^3 ?
>
> 2
> how does curved space 'know'' that
> there is some mass near by ??
> and then immediately curve around it ?
> sort of an octopus with long flexible 'arms ??
Why do you think a material arm is necessary?
How does a permanent magnet work? With arms reaching out to pull in?
>
> or may be it has some 'smell sense ''to detect mass and then
> immediately overlap on it(all over or may be not allover ??
> or may be not immediately !!
> =====================you see I am a strange curious old man
> ('''that has to retire''' immediately ( according to a quote from you ?)
> BTW
> did it occur to you that 'age' might sometimes be rather an -advantage ??
> ============Y.P
> =====================
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 02:24 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5f722c81-a617-4d2c-8883-12ba2bb31d6a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #713481 |
On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 10:20:57 AM UTC+2, john wrote: > Odd > “Your incredulity is no match for data.” > Which is fudged by things like DM and ‘renormalizing’? > Right- data ==== right ! now a few more questions to odd ==== how do you measure curved space : is in in Meter ^2 is it in Meter ^3 and more =========== how does space know that there is mass somewhere around does it has some smell sense or does it has some long arms like an octopus to curve around mass or may not all around ? == TIA Y.P ============================
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 14:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pt149o$n8h$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #713481 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “Your incredulity is no match for data.” > Which is fudged by things like DM and ‘renormalizing’? > Right- data > Data is fudged? Heck no. Data is not modified at all. What are you on about? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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