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IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!!

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  IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-15 23:22 -0800
    Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-15 23:44 -0800
      Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 17:22 +0000
        Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-17 16:05 -0800
    Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 12:08 +0000
      Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-16 04:36 -0800
        Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 13:15 +0000
          Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-16 06:57 -0800
            Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 02:00 +0000
              Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-16 23:12 -0800
                Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 19:19 +0000
                  Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-17 16:17 -0800
                    Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 13:57 +0000
                      Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 06:43 -0800
                        Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 07:04 -0800
                          Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Melvin <invalid@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 07:58 -0800
                          Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 17:07 +0000
                            Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:30 -0800
                              Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 09:52 -0800
                        Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 17:07 +0000
                          Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 10:46 -0800
                            Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-18 19:50 +0100
                              Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 11:04 -0800
                                Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-18 22:03 +0100
                            Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 19:54 +0000
                              Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 12:23 -0800
                                Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 21:33 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 16:43 -0800
                                    Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000
                                      Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 06:20 -0800
                                        Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 09:00 -0800
                                          Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 00:10 -0800
                                        Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 20:51 +0000
                                          Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 14:19 -0800
                                            Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 02:51 +0000
                                              Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 00:20 -0800
                                                Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 02:13 -0800
                                                  Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 14:04 +0000
                                                Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 02:24 -0800
                                                Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 14:04 +0000
                                                  Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 06:09 -0800
                                                    Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 15:02 +0000
                                          Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 22:23 -0800
                                            Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 22:34 -0800
                                              Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 22:46 -0800
                                            Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 14:04 +0000
                                              Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 08:47 -0800
                                                Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 08:55 -0800
                                                  Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 18:43 +0000
                                                    Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 11:09 -0800
                                                      Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 21:32 +0000
                                                        Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 15:52 -0800
                                                          Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 14:22 +0000
                                                          Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 16:42 +0000
                                                            Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 09:19 -0800
                                                        Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 22:00 -0800
                                                          Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 02:44 -0800
                                                          Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Ricardo Efftardo <invalid@example.net> - 2018-11-21 16:15 -0800
                                                            Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 17:30 -0800
                                                Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 18:43 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 23:17 -0800
                                    Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000
                              Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 12:35 -0800
                                Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 21:33 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 16:38 -0800
                                    Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000
                      Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 06:54 -0800
              Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 07:09 -0800
                Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 19:19 +0000
                  Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 14:33 -0800
                    Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 00:17 +0000
                      Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-17 21:45 -0800
                    Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 00:12 -0800
                      Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! "Hoofington P. McSnort" <invalid@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 08:00 -0800
                    Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:30 -0800
                Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-18 17:00 -0600
                  Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 16:56 -0800
                  Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 18:34 -0800
                  Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 23:22 -0800
                  Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 03:29 -0800
                    Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! "Hoofington P. McSnort" <invalid@example.net> - 2018-11-20 16:54 -0800
                      Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 21:23 -0800
    Re: IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!! Mutt Buncher <invalid@ezamplee.com> - 2018-11-17 07:26 -0800

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#712937 — IT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!!

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-15 23:22 -0800
SubjectIT IS NOT ' CUVED SPACE' - IDIOT PARROT -ITIS **MASS **!!!
Message-ID<4cfb399c-1015-40b5-bc29-af107883422b@googlegroups.com>
not   used by    NASSA  

not used by G P  S

cannot explain/ predict /  calculate    ''free fall

does not have enough basic dimensions 

wasting  precious  human resources for too  long!!   

in short

IT IS (gravity ) DONE BY   ** MASS** !! (and  not only gravity done by mass )

more than  time for some    innovations !!  
----------------
excuse my bluntness :     

ONE BIG HARMFULL -  'BULL SHIT' !!


====================
TIA
Y. Porat
=====================
11/16/2018     
=====================     

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#712938

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-15 23:44 -0800
Message-ID<9b127142-640e-4e1d-be69-8e3179723014@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#712937
On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 9:22:12 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> not   used by    NASSA  
> 
> not used by G P  S
> 
> cannot explain/ predict /  calculate    ''free fall
> 
> does not have enough basic dimensions 
> 
> wasting  precious  human resources for too  long!!   
> 
> in short
> 
> IT IS (gravity ) DONE BY   ** MASS** !! (and  not only gravity done by mass )
> 
> more than  time for some    innovations !!  
> ----------------
> excuse my bluntness :     
> 
> ONE BIG HARMFULL -  'BULL SHIT' !!
> 
> 
> ====================
> TIA
> Y. Porat
> =====================
> 11/16/2018     
> =====================
oh yes !!
I forgot   to add    another item   to the above   list   :

IT CANNOT DEAL/COPE  WITH  THE STRONG   NUCLEAR FORCES  !!

2
that does not means -that I don't believe   in ** S R **!!
I  do believe in S R
and  even   understand why *THAT  S R- ** is* right !!! 

TIA
Y.P
=======================




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#713082

FromKeith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-17 17:22 +0000
Message-ID<c7YHD.174002$9M1.14554@fx23.am4>
In reply to#712938
On 16/11/2018 07:44, yporat08@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 9:22:12 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
>> not   used by    NASSA
>> not used by G P  S
>> cannot explain/ predict /  calculate    ''free fall
>> does not have enough basic dimensions
>> wasting  precious  human resources for too  long!!
>> in short
>> ONE BIG HARMFULL -  'BULL SHIT' !!
>>
>> Y. Porat

> that does not means -that I don't believe   in ** S R **!!
> I  do believe in S R
> and  even   understand why *THAT  S R- ** is* right !!! 
> TIA
> Y.P

You are right about GR Mr.Porat.  It *is* indeed 'BULL SHIT' !!
You are wrong about SR Mr.Porat.  That *is* 'BULL SHIT' too eh!

keith stein

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#713158

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-17 16:05 -0800
Message-ID<ba867fac-aa60-4555-82f7-319800709f9d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#713082
On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 7:22:19 PM UTC+2, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 16/11/2018 07:44, yporat08@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 9:22:12 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> not   used by    NASSA
> >> not used by G P  S
> >> cannot explain/ predict /  calculate    ''free fall
> >> does not have enough basic dimensions
> >> wasting  precious  human resources for too  long!!
> >> in short
> >> ONE BIG HARMFULL -  'BULL SHIT' !!
> >>
> >> Y. Porat
> 
> > that does not means -that I don't believe   in ** S R **!!
> > I  do believe in S R
> > and  even   understand why *THAT  S R- ** is* right !!! 
> > TIA
> > Y.P
> 
> You are right about GR Mr.Porat.  It *is* indeed 'BULL SHIT' !!
> You are wrong about SR Mr.Porat.  That *is* 'BULL SHIT' too eh!
> 
> keith stein

=======================
thank you Keith (btw i guess you are a woman right ) 
indeed GR  is bull  shit
 but yet still I
believe   it or not I  still believe and understand SR!!:
you  ask how come ??
there are some basic tiny mass particle 
that has 
AN UPPER LIMIT OF VELOCITY 
THAT MAKE FORCES 
NOW
IT IS DONE   BY  COLLISION!!
NOW
FOR SUCH A COLLISION AGENT 
WHILE IT HAS TO HAUNT  ANOTHER (acted mass) 
IT BECOMES DIFFICULT ANSD MORE DIFICULT TO haunt   That acted mas 
 !!UNTILL
IT CAN  T HAUNT ANYMORE 
THE ACTED   MASS !!

I am  not sure hoe clear I explained it !!
do you start to  understand it 
if yes
may be yo can explain it  more clearly 
(may be  without spelling mistakes   (:-)
if right
it is a copyright explanation …
==
TIA
Y.P
==============








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#712939

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-16 12:08 +0000
Message-ID<psmc06$1jt5$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#712937
<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> not   used by    NASSA  

A lie. 

> 
> not used by G P  S

A lie. 

> 
> cannot explain/ predict /  calculate    ''free fall

A lie. 

> 
> does not have enough basic dimensions 

Silly notion. 

> 
> wasting  precious  human resources for too  long!!   
> 
> in short
> 
> IT IS (gravity ) DONE BY   ** MASS** !! (and  not only gravity done by mass )
> 
> more than  time for some    innovations !!  
> ----------------
> excuse my bluntness :     
> 
> ONE BIG HARMFULL -  'BULL SHIT' !!
> 
> 
> ====================
> TIA
> Y. Porat
> =====================
> 11/16/2018     
> =====================     
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#712943

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-16 04:36 -0800
Message-ID<9923a643-58e1-4597-b934-64d8797df2fb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#712939
On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 2:08:43 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> > not   used by    NASSA  
> 
> A lie. =
==========
you  lie   shamelessly  or ignorantly or maliciously

they use  the ordinary Newtonian  physics !
I didn't not invent  that information 
I got it her from   one of the members 
I would  like to those who really know about it 
to get in ! > > 
====
> > not used by G P  S
> 
> A lie.
again  
of course   for an  idiot parrot like you 
that understand nothing about it ??
and take Wikipedia  as a judge    
> 
> > 
> > cannot explain/ predict /  calculate    ''free fall

A Lie 
nasty lier  
I amtalking about 
not jus free fall
but

the Galileo   experiment 
in which 
 A SMALL  MASS IS FALLING NEXT TO A BIG MASS 
LISTEN CAREFULLY

AT THE SAME TIME !!
  how can it be
tell us how 'curved space' kook like around those 2 masses !!

imbecile !!!

. 
> 
> > 
> > does not have enough basic dimensions 
> 
> Silly notion. 

idiot moron  lier 
what  are the physical   dimensions of curved   **space** ??
mass ? time ??
nasty   pig !!
===============================

> 
> > 
> > wasting  precious  human resources for too  long!!   
> > 
> > in short
> > 
> > IT IS (gravity ) DONE BY   ** MASS** !! (and  not only gravity done by mass )
> > 
> > more than  time for some    innovations !!  
> > ----------------
> > excuse my bluntness :     
> > 
> > ONE BIG HARMFULL -  'BULL SHIT' !!
> > 
> > 
> > ====================
> > TIA
> > Y. Porat
> > =====================
> > 11/16/2018     
> > =====================     
=====================
TIA
to cleaver decent  responsible people 
  Y.P
=================

 

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#712946

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-16 13:15 +0000
Message-ID<psmfsr$1qqv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#712943
<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 2:08:43 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> not   used by    NASSA  
>> 
>> A lie. =
> ==========
> you  lie   shamelessly  or ignorantly or maliciously
> 
> they use  the ordinary Newtonian  physics !

For some applications. For other applications, they use GR. 

> I didn't not invent  that information 
> I got it her from   one of the members 
> I would  like to those who really know about it 
> to get in ! > > 
> ====
>>> not used by G P  S
>> 
>> A lie.
> again  
> of course   for an  idiot parrot like you 
> that understand nothing about it ??
> and take Wikipedia  as a judge    

Not Wikipedia. The actual design specs for the system. Online. 

>> 
>>> 
>>> cannot explain/ predict /  calculate    ''free fall
> 
> A Lie 
> nasty lier  
> I amtalking about 
> not jus free fall
> but
> 
> the Galileo   experiment 
> in which 
>  A SMALL  MASS IS FALLING NEXT TO A BIG MASS 
> LISTEN CAREFULLY
> 
> AT THE SAME TIME !!
>   how can it be
> tell us how 'curved space' kook like around those 2 masses !!

“Look like” is different than explain / predict / calculate. 


> 
> imbecile !!!
> 
> . 
>> 
>>> 
>>> does not have enough basic dimensions 
>> 
>> Silly notion. 
> 
> idiot moron  lier 
> what  are the physical   dimensions of curved   **space** ??
> mass ? time ??
> nasty   pig !!
> ===============================
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> wasting  precious  human resources for too  long!!   
>>> 
>>> in short
>>> 
>>> IT IS (gravity ) DONE BY   ** MASS** !! (and  not only gravity done by mass )
>>> 
>>> more than  time for some    innovations !!  
>>> ----------------
>>> excuse my bluntness :     
>>> 
>>> ONE BIG HARMFULL -  'BULL SHIT' !!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ====================
>>> TIA
>>> Y. Porat
>>> =====================
>>> 11/16/2018     
>>> =====================     
> =====================
> TIA
> to cleaver decent  responsible people 
>   Y.P
> =================
> 
>  
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#712949

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-16 06:57 -0800
Message-ID<1dd656a3-c7b9-49f8-837f-c833d251c4f9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#712946
On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 3:15:12 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 2:08:43 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> not   used by    NASSA  
> >> 
> >> A lie. =
> > ==========
> > you  lie   shamelessly  or ignorantly or maliciously
> > 
> > they use  the ordinary Newtonian  physics !
> 
> For some applications. For other applications, they use GR. 
=====================
tell  us exactly for which application they use 
curved space
and for what 
that not use it ??
just general hand waving is cheating  

==== 

> 
> > I didn't not invent  that information 
> > I got it her from   one of the members 
> > I would  like to those who really know about it 
> > to get in ! > > 
> > ====
> >>> not used by G P  S
> >> 
> >> A lie.
> > again  
> > of course   for an  idiot parrot like you 
> > that understand nothing about it ??
> > and take Wikipedia  as a judge    
> 
> Not Wikipedia. The actual design specs for the system. Online.

they might use SR
but  no way GR 
a parrot le you 
does not take in  account   
that e m  waves might curve some
as in he Edington experiment 
but listen carefully
IT IS BECAUSE E M   WAVWES 
can  curve because
of …??? ---


---THE GRAVITATIO NOF OUR EAT   MASS !!
MASS   MASS GO TIT PARROT ??

=========> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> cannot explain/ predict /  calculate    ''free fall
> > 
> > A Lie 
> > nasty lier  
> > I amtalking about 
> > not jus free fall
> > but
> > 
> > the Galileo   experiment 
> > in which 
> >  A SMALL  MASS IS FALLING NEXT TO A BIG MASS 
> > LISTEN CAREFULLY
> > 
> > AT THE SAME TIME !!
> >   how can it be
> > tell us how 'curved space' kook like around those 2 masses !!
> 
> “Look like” is different than explain / predict / calculate. 
> 
> 
> > 
> > imbecile !!!
> > 
> > . 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> does not have enough basic dimensions 
> >> 
> >> Silly notion. 
> > 
> > idiot moron  lier 
> > what  are the physical   dimensions of curved   **space** ??
> > mass ? time ??
> > nasty   pig !!
> > ===============================

2
CAN  YOU MEASURE **LEGTH** IN SPACE 
THAT HAS NO MASS  POINTS TO RELAT TO ??!!!
===============
and !!
you didn't answer me 
how is curved  space look  like AND CALCULATED 
at the Galileo  experiment 
with  free fall  off 
big mass anD small  mass side  by  side
THAT DO IT EXACLY AT THE SAME FREEFALL TME !!>>
==
and why 
curve space cannot cope with the strong forces of the nuc ??
you evaded that question of mine !!

and you talk about   deliberate  cheating ??
half of the truth 
is cheating 

====
TIA
Y.P
===================  





> > 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> wasting  precious  human resources for too  long!!   
> >>> 
> >>> in short
> >>> 
> >>> IT IS (gravity ) DONE BY   ** MASS** !! (and  not only gravity done by mass )
> >>> 
> >>> more than  time for some    innovations !!  
> >>> ----------------
> >>> excuse my bluntness :     
> >>> 
> >>> ONE BIG HARMFULL -  'BULL SHIT' !!
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> ====================
> >>> TIA
> >>> Y. Porat
> >>> =====================
> >>> 11/16/2018     
> >>> =====================     
> > =====================
 TIA
 to cleaver decent  responsible people 

that are not criminals against mankind !!
we need badly some new  advance  

mass  is the creator  of all  forces !! 
INCLUDING   GRAVITY 

the Faraday experiment * permanent**!!!  magnet 
was the first  hint for it !
(now the Chinese  did  it in a bigger scale )

TIA
Y.P
=================
   
 

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#713018

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-17 02:00 +0000
Message-ID<psnsnn$4vo$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#712949
<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 3:15:12 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 2:08:43 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> not   used by    NASSA  
>>>> 
>>>> A lie. > > =========> > you  lie   shamelessly  or ignorantly or maliciously
>>> 
>>> they use  the ordinary Newtonian  physics !
>> 
>> For some applications. For other applications, they use GR. 
> ====================tell  us exactly for which application they use 
> curved space
> and for what 
> that not use it ??

Many. Do your own googling. 

> just general hand waving is cheating  
> 
> ==== 
> 
>> 
>>> I didn't not invent  that information 
>>> I got it her from   one of the members 
>>> I would  like to those who really know about it 
>>> to get in ! > > 
>>> ===> >>> not used by G P  S
>>>> 
>>>> A lie.
>>> again  
>>> of course   for an  idiot parrot like you 
>>> that understand nothing about it ??
>>> and take Wikipedia  as a judge    
>> 
>> Not Wikipedia. The actual design specs for the system. Online.
> 
> they might use SR
> but  no way GR 

Wrong. 

http://www.ipgp.fr/~tarantola/Files/Professional/GPS/Ashby_2003.pdf

> a parrot le you 
> does not take in  account   
> that e m  waves might curve some
> as in he Edington experiment 
> but listen carefully
> IT IS BECAUSE E M   WAVWES 
> can  curve because
> of &??? ---
> 
> 
> ---THE GRAVITATIO NOF OUR EAT   MASS !!
> MASS   MASS GO TIT PARROT ??
> 
> =========> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> cannot explain/ predict /  calculate    ''free fall
>>> 
>>> A Lie 
>>> nasty lier  
>>> I amtalking about 
>>> not jus free fall
>>> but
>>> 
>>> the Galileo   experiment 
>>> in which 
>>> A SMALL  MASS IS FALLING NEXT TO A BIG MASS 
>>> LISTEN CAREFULLY
>>> 
>>> AT THE SAME TIME !!
>>> how can it be
>>> tell us how 'curved space' kook like around those 2 masses !!
>> 
>> Look like is different than explain / predict / calculate. 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> imbecile !!!
>>> 
>>> . 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> does not have enough basic dimensions 
>>>> 
>>>> Silly notion. 
>>> 
>>> idiot moron  lier 
>>> what  are the physical   dimensions of curved   **space** ??
>>> mass ? time ??
>>> nasty   pig !!
>>> ==============================
> 2
> CAN  YOU MEASURE **LEGTH** IN SPACE 
> THAT HAS NO MASS  POINTS TO RELAT TO ??!!!

Yes!

Your mind is stuck on tangible, material things. 
More can be measured than material, tangible things. 

> ==============and !!
> you didn't answer me 
> how is curved  space look  like AND CALCULATED 

I’ve already answered this in the last month. I showed you the
calculations. 

> at the Galileo  experiment 
> with  free fall  off 
> big mass anD small  mass side  by  side
> THAT DO IT EXACLY AT THE SAME FREEFALL TME !!>>
> =and why 
> curve space cannot cope with the strong forces of the nuc ??

That’s right and it shouldn’t. Curved space is a theory of gravity, not a
theory of all interactions. Idiot. 

> you evaded that question of mine !!
> 
> and you talk about   deliberate  cheating ??
> half of the truth 
> is cheating 
> 
> ===TIA
> Y.P
> ===================  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> wasting  precious  human resources for too  long!!   
>>>>> 
>>>>> in short
>>>>> 
>>>>> IT IS (gravity ) DONE BY   ** MASS** !! (and  not only gravity done by mass )
>>>>> 
>>>>> more than  time for some    innovations !!  
>>>>> ----------------
>>>>> excuse my bluntness :     
>>>>> 
>>>>> ONE BIG HARMFULL -  'BULL SHIT' !!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ===================> >>> TIA
>>>>> Y. Porat
>>>>> ====================> >>> 11/16/2018     
>>>>> =====================     
>>> ==================== TIA
>  to cleaver decent  responsible people 
> 
> that are not criminals against mankind !!
> we need badly some new  advance  
> 
> mass  is the creator  of all  forces !! 
> INCLUDING   GRAVITY 
> 
> the Faraday experiment * permanent**!!!  magnet 
> was the first  hint for it !
> (now the Chinese  did  it in a bigger scale )
> 
> TIA
> Y.P
> ================   
>  
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#713053

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-16 23:12 -0800
Message-ID<916224b4-9703-4c93-b016-516d83ce6cca@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#713018
On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:00:30 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 3:15:12 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 2:08:43 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> not   used by    NASSA  
> >>>> 
> >>>> A lie. > > =========> > you  lie   shamelessly  or ignorantly or maliciously
> >>> 
> >>> they use  the ordinary Newtonian  physics !
> >> 
> >> For some applications. For other applications, they use GR. 
> > ====================tell  us exactly for which application they use 
> > curved space
> > and for what 
> > that not use it ??
> 
> Many. Do your own googling. 
> 
> > just general hand waving is cheating  
> > 
> > ==== 
> > 
> >> 
> >>> I didn't not invent  that information 
> >>> I got it her from   one of the members 
> >>> I would  like to those who really know about it 
> >>> to get in ! > > 
> >>> ===> >>> not used by G P  S
> >>>> 
> >>>> A lie.
> >>> again  
> >>> of course   for an  idiot parrot like you 
> >>> that understand nothing about it ??
> >>> and take Wikipedia  as a judge    
> >> 
> >> Not Wikipedia. The actual design specs for the system. Online.
> > 
> > they might use SR
> > but  no way GR 
> 
> Wrong. 
> 
> http://www.ipgp.fr/~tarantola/Files/Professional/GPS/Ashby_2003.pdf
> 
> > a parrot le you 
> > does not take in  account   
> > that e m  waves might curve some
> > as in he Edington experiment 
> > but listen carefully
> > IT IS BECAUSE E M   WAVWES 
> > can  curve because
> > of &??? ---
> > 
> > 
> > ---THE GRAVITATIO NOF OUR EAT   MASS !!
> > MASS   MASS GO TIT PARROT ??
> > 
> > =========> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> cannot explain/ predict /  calculate    ''free fall
> >>> 
> >>> A Lie 
> >>> nasty lier  
> >>> I amtalking about 
> >>> not jus free fall
> >>> but
> >>> 
> >>> the Galileo   experiment 
> >>> in which 
> >>> A SMALL  MASS IS FALLING NEXT TO A BIG MASS 
> >>> LISTEN CAREFULLY
> >>> 
> >>> AT THE SAME TIME !!
> >>> how can it be
> >>> tell us how 'curved space' kook like around those 2 masses !!
> >> 
> >>  Look like  is different than explain / predict / calculate. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> imbecile !!!
> >>> 
> >>> . 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> does not have enough basic dimensions 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Silly notion. 
> >>> 
> >>> idiot moron  lier 
> >>> what  are the physical   dimensions of curved   **space** ??
> >>> mass ? time ??
> >>> nasty   pig !!
> >>> ==============================
> > 2
> > CAN  YOU MEASURE **LEGTH** IN SPACE 
> > THAT HAS NO MASS  POINTS TO RELAT TO ??!!!
> 
> Yes!
> 
> Your mind is stuck on tangible, material things. 
> More can be measured than material, tangible things. 
> 
> > ==============and !!
> > you didn't answer me 
> > how is curved  space look  like AND CALCULATED 
> 
> I’ve already answered this in the last month. I showed you the
> calculations. 
==========================
==DAM LIER
 SO AGAIN
don't Give me/US  words and figures

BRING US GEOMETRY   PICTURE 
OR EVEN A ACHEEM  

geometry is not bubbling words  
it seem e that you never was dealing trained    with 3D geometry !!!
got   it    fucker  ? 

3 D GEOMETRY    
CURVATURE**** IS NOT F EN WORDS 
IT  IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO  PRACTICE AND LEARN !!!

====
> 
> > at the Galileo  experiment 
> > with  free fall  off 
> > big mass**** anD small  mass**** side  by  side!!-
> > THAT DO IT EXACLY AT THE SAME FREEFALL TME !!>>!!exactly same !!!
> > =and why 
> >
 
curve space cannot cope with the strong forces of the nuc ??
piggy
you did not answer that  !!!
========= 
> 
> That’s right and it shouldn’t. Curved space is a theory of gravity, not a
> theory of all interactions. Idiot.
===
why piggy it 'should not curve '' ?? 
because
you are a shameless   crock
AND CRIMINAL AGAINT MANKIND ??? !!

and   invent

AS YOU    LKIE''   IT PHYSICS !!!
'sometimes    curve and sometimes do not curve !!!/?
why  and  
because you can not   bring a a  s  scientific reason ??!!

 
======================

 
> > you evaded that question of mine !!
> > 
> > and you talk about   deliberate  cheating ??
> > half of the truth 
> > is cheating 
> > 
 > > 
 
> >>>>> wasting  precious  human resources for too  long!!   
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> in short
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> IT IS (gravity ) DONE BY   ** MASS** !! (and  not only gravity done by mass )
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> more than  time for some    innovations !!  
> >>>>> ----------------
> >>>>> excuse my bluntness :     
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ONE BIG HARMFULL -  'BULL SHIT' !!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ===================> >>> TIA
> >>>>> Y. Porat
> >>>>> ====================> >>> 11/16/2018     
> >>>>> =====================     
> >>> ==================== TIA
> >  to cleaver decent  responsible people 
> > 
> > that are not criminals against mankind !!
> > we need badly some new  advance  
> > 
> > mass  is the creator  of all  forces !! 
> > INCLUDING   GRAVITY 
> > 
> > the Faraday experiment * permanent**!!!  magnet 
> > was the first  hint for it !
> > (now the Chinese  did  it in a bigger scale )
 see again the alternative !!! -to IDIOTIC curved space --

=DON BY MASS  !!!!!!!!!
========================================
see the alternative   done by MASS!!  

http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract  

AT ITS APPENDIX  !!!
=============== 
TIA
Y.P
======================== 

   

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#713093

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-17 19:19 +0000
Message-ID<psppji$11ec$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#713053
<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:00:30 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 3:15:12 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 2:08:43 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> not   used by    NASSA  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A lie. > > =========> > you  lie   shamelessly  or ignorantly or maliciously
>>>>> 
>>>>> they use  the ordinary Newtonian  physics !
>>>> 
>>>> For some applications. For other applications, they use GR. 
>>> ====================tell  us exactly for which application they use 
>>> curved space
>>> and for what 
>>> that not use it ??
>> 
>> Many. Do your own googling. 
>> 
>>> just general hand waving is cheating  
>>> 
>>> ==== 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I didn't not invent  that information 
>>>>> I got it her from   one of the members 
>>>>> I would  like to those who really know about it 
>>>>> to get in ! > > 
>>>>> ===> >>> not used by G P  S
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A lie.
>>>>> again  
>>>>> of course   for an  idiot parrot like you 
>>>>> that understand nothing about it ??
>>>>> and take Wikipedia  as a judge    
>>>> 
>>>> Not Wikipedia. The actual design specs for the system. Online.
>>> 
>>> they might use SR
>>> but  no way GR 
>> 
>> Wrong. 
>> 
>> http://www.ipgp.fr/~tarantola/Files/Professional/GPS/Ashby_2003.pdf
>> 
>>> a parrot le you 
>>> does not take in  account   
>>> that e m  waves might curve some
>>> as in he Edington experiment 
>>> but listen carefully
>>> IT IS BECAUSE E M   WAVWES 
>>> can  curve because
>>> of &??? ---
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---THE GRAVITATIO NOF OUR EAT   MASS !!
>>> MASS   MASS GO TIT PARROT ??
>>> 
>>> =========> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> cannot explain/ predict /  calculate    ''free fall
>>>>> 
>>>>> A Lie 
>>>>> nasty lier  
>>>>> I amtalking about 
>>>>> not jus free fall
>>>>> but
>>>>> 
>>>>> the Galileo   experiment 
>>>>> in which 
>>>>> A SMALL  MASS IS FALLING NEXT TO A BIG MASS 
>>>>> LISTEN CAREFULLY
>>>>> 
>>>>> AT THE SAME TIME !!
>>>>> how can it be
>>>>> tell us how 'curved space' kook like around those 2 masses !!
>>>> 
>>>> Look like  is different than explain / predict / calculate. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> imbecile !!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> . 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> does not have enough basic dimensions 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Silly notion. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> idiot moron  lier 
>>>>> what  are the physical   dimensions of curved   **space** ??
>>>>> mass ? time ??
>>>>> nasty   pig !!
>>>>> ==============================
>>> 2
>>> CAN  YOU MEASURE **LEGTH** IN SPACE 
>>> THAT HAS NO MASS  POINTS TO RELAT TO ??!!!
>> 
>> Yes!
>> 
>> Your mind is stuck on tangible, material things. 
>> More can be measured than material, tangible things. 
>> 
>>> ==============and !!
>>> you didn't answer me 
>>> how is curved  space look  like AND CALCULATED 
>> 
>> I’ve already answered this in the last month. I showed you the
>> calculations. 
> ==========================
> ==DAM LIER
>  SO AGAIN
> don't Give me/US  words and figures
> 
> BRING US GEOMETRY   PICTURE 
> OR EVEN A ACHEEM  

How do you propose to bring a picture to a text forum? 

> 
> geometry is not bubbling words  
> it seem e that you never was dealing trained    with 3D geometry !!!
> got   it    fucker  ? 
> 
> 3 D GEOMETRY    
> CURVATURE**** IS NOT F EN WORDS 
> IT  IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO  PRACTICE AND LEARN !!!
> 
> ====
>> 
>>> at the Galileo  experiment 
>>> with  free fall  off 
>>> big mass**** anD small  mass**** side  by  side!!-
>>> THAT DO IT EXACLY AT THE SAME FREEFALL TME !!>>!!exactly same !!!
>>> =and why 
>>> 
>  
> curve space cannot cope with the strong forces of the nuc ??
> piggy
> you did not answer that  !!!

Just did, right below. General relativity is not a theory of all
interactions. Just one. Get a grip. 

> ========= 
>> 
>> That’s right and it shouldn’t. Curved space is a theory of gravity, not a
>> theory of all interactions. Idiot.
> ===
> why piggy it 'should not curve '' ?? 
> because
> you are a shameless   crock
> AND CRIMINAL AGAINT MANKIND ??? !!
> 
> and   invent
> 
> AS YOU    LKIE''   IT PHYSICS !!!
> 'sometimes    curve and sometimes do not curve !!!/?
> why  and  
> because you can not   bring a a  s  scientific reason ??!!
> 
>  
> ======================
> 
>  
>>> you evaded that question of mine !!
>>> 
>>> and you talk about   deliberate  cheating ??
>>> half of the truth 
>>> is cheating 
>>> 
>  > > 
>  
>>>>>>> wasting  precious  human resources for too  long!!   
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> in short
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> IT IS (gravity ) DONE BY   ** MASS** !! (and  not only gravity done by mass )
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> more than  time for some    innovations !!  
>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>> excuse my bluntness :     
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ONE BIG HARMFULL -  'BULL SHIT' !!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ===================> >>> TIA
>>>>>>> Y. Porat
>>>>>>> ====================> >>> 11/16/2018     
>>>>>>> =====================     
>>>>> ==================== TIA
>>> to cleaver decent  responsible people 
>>> 
>>> that are not criminals against mankind !!
>>> we need badly some new  advance  
>>> 
>>> mass  is the creator  of all  forces !! 
>>> INCLUDING   GRAVITY 
>>> 
>>> the Faraday experiment * permanent**!!!  magnet 
>>> was the first  hint for it !
>>> (now the Chinese  did  it in a bigger scale )
>  see again the alternative !!! -to IDIOTIC curved space --
> 
> =DON BY MASS  !!!!!!!!!
> ========================================
> see the alternative   done by MASS!!  
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract  
> 
> AT ITS APPENDIX  !!!
> =============== 
> TIA
> Y.P
> ======================== 
> 
>    
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#713160

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-17 16:17 -0800
Message-ID<a6789787-f78a-4fb4-8e9f-cb1c42ba58d9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#713093
On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 9:19:20 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:00:30 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 3:15:12 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 2:08:43 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> not   used by    NASSA  
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> A lie. > > =========> > you  lie   shamelessly  or ignorantly or maliciously
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> they use  the ordinary Newtonian  physics !
> >>>> 
> >>>> For some applications. For other applications, they use GR. 
> >>> ====================tell  us exactly for which application they use 
> >>> curved space
> >>> and for what 
> >>> that not use it ??
> >> 
> >> Many. Do your own googling. 
> >> 
> >>> just general hand waving is cheating  
> >>> 
> >>> ==== 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> I didn't not invent  that information 
> >>>>> I got it her from   one of the members 
> >>>>> I would  like to those who really know about it 
> >>>>> to get in ! > > 
> >>>>> ===> >>> not used by G P  S
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> A lie.
> >>>>> again  
> >>>>> of course   for an  idiot parrot like you 
> >>>>> that understand nothing about it ??
> >>>>> and take Wikipedia  as a judge    
> >>>> 
> >>>> Not Wikipedia. The actual design specs for the system. Online.
> >>> 
> >>> they might use SR
> >>> but  no way GR 
> >> 
> >> Wrong. 
> >> 
> >> http://www.ipgp.fr/~tarantola/Files/Professional/GPS/Ashby_2003.pdf
> >> 
> >>> a parrot le you 
> >>> does not take in  account   
> >>> that e m  waves might curve some
> >>> as in he Edington experiment 
> >>> but listen carefully
> >>> IT IS BECAUSE E M   WAVWES 
> >>> can  curve because
> >>> of &??? ---
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> ---THE GRAVITATIO NOF OUR EAT   MASS !!
> >>> MASS   MASS GO TIT PARROT ??
> >>> 
> >>> =========> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> cannot explain/ predict /  calculate    ''free fall
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> A Lie 
> >>>>> nasty lier  
> >>>>> I amtalking about 
> >>>>> not jus free fall
> >>>>> but
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> the Galileo   experiment 
> >>>>> in which 
> >>>>> A SMALL  MASS IS FALLING NEXT TO A BIG MASS 
> >>>>> LISTEN CAREFULLY
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> AT THE SAME TIME !!
> >>>>> how can it be
> >>>>> tell us how 'curved space' kook like around those 2 masses !!
> >>>> 
> >>>> Look like  is different than explain / predict / calculate. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> imbecile !!!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> . 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> does not have enough basic dimensions 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Silly notion. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> idiot moron  lier 
> >>>>> what  are the physical   dimensions of curved   **space** ??
> >>>>> mass ? time ??
> >>>>> nasty   pig !!
> >>>>> ==============================
> >>> 2
> >>> CAN  YOU MEASURE **LEGTH** IN SPACE 
> >>> THAT HAS NO MASS  POINTS TO RELAT TO ??!!!
> >> 
> >> Yes!
> >> 
> >> Your mind is stuck on tangible, material things. 
> >> More can be measured than material, tangible things. 
> >> 
> >>> ==============and !!
> >>> you didn't answer me 
> >>> how is curved  space look  like AND CALCULATED 
> >> 
> >> I’ve already answered this in the last month. I showed you the
> >> calculations. 
> > ==========================
> > ==DAM LIER
> >  SO AGAIN
> > don't Give me/US  words and figures
> > 
> > BRING US GEOMETRY   PICTURE 
> > OR EVEN A ACHEEM  
> 
> How do you propose to bring a picture to a text forum? 

-----

thank you for your question 
(:-)

''ONE PICTURE IS WORTH A THUSAND WORDS' 
DID   YOU EVER HEAR ABOUTH  IT 
and  may be you can add words to a  picture or a sketch 
it is welcome 
but sometimes 
impossible !!

see again :

http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
I   tried to ' deass  it''
by a dynamic  ''dress'  
by  adding a few sketches …btw 
please  note it is from 1993 !!!if I remember  right the date 
TIA
Y.P       
=========


> 
> > 
> > geometry is not bubbling words  
> > it seem e that you never was dealing trained    with 3D geometry !!!
> > got   it    fucker  ? 
> > 
> > 3 D GEOMETRY    
> > CURVATURE**** IS NOT F EN WORDS 
> > IT  IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO  PRACTICE AND LEARN !!!
> > 
> > ====
> >> 
> >>> at the Galileo  experiment 
> >>> with  free fall  off 
> >>> big mass**** anD small  mass**** side  by  side!!-
> >>> THAT DO IT EXACLY AT THE SAME FREEFALL TME !!>>!!exactly same !!!
> >>> =and why 
> >>> 
> >  
> > curve space cannot cope with the strong forces of the nuc ??
> > piggy
> > you did not answer that  !!!
> 
> Just did, right below. General relativity is not a theory of all
> interactions. Just one. Get a grip. 
> 
> > ========= 
> >> 
> >> That’s right and it shouldn’t. Curved space is a theory of gravity, not a
> >> theory of all interactions. Idiot.
> > ===
> > why piggy it 'should not curve '' ?? 
> > because
> > you are a shameless   crock
> > AND CRIMINAL AGAINT MANKIND ??? !!
> > 
> > and   invent
> > 
> > AS YOU    LKIE''   IT PHYSICS !!!
> > 'sometimes    curve and sometimes do not curve !!!/?
> > why  and  
> > because you can not   bring a a  s  scientific reason ??!!
> > 
> >  
> > ======================
> > 
> >  
> >>> you evaded that question of mine !!
> >>> 
> >>> and you talk about   deliberate  cheating ??
> >>> half of the truth 
> >>> is cheating 
> >>> 
> >  > > 
> >  
> >>>>>>> wasting  precious  human resources for too  long!!   
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> in short
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> IT IS (gravity ) DONE BY   ** MASS** !! (and  not only gravity done by mass )
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> more than  time for some    innovations !!  
> >>>>>>> ----------------
> >>>>>>> excuse my bluntness :     
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> ONE BIG HARMFULL -  'BULL SHIT' !!
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> ===================> >>> TIA
> >>>>>>> Y. Porat
> >>>>>>> ====================> >>> 11/16/2018     
> >>>>>>> =====================     
> >>>>> ==================== TIA
> >>> to cleaver decent  responsible people 
> >>> 
> >>> that are not criminals against mankind !!
> >>> we need badly some new  advance  
> >>> 
> >>> mass  is the creator  of all  forces !! 
> >>> INCLUDING   GRAVITY 
> >>> 
> >>> the Faraday experiment * permanent**!!!  magnet 
> >>> was the first  hint for it !
> >>> (now the Chinese  did  it in a bigger scale )
> >  see again the alternative !!! -to IDIOTIC curved space --
> > 
> > =DON BY MASS  !!!!!!!!!
> > ========================================
> > see the alternative   done by MASS!!  
> > 
> > http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract  
> > 
> > AT ITS APPENDIX  !!!
> > =============== 
> > TIA
> > Y.P
> > ======================== 
> > 
> >    
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#713204

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-18 13:57 +0000
Message-ID<psrr4p$2c1$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#713160
<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 9:19:20 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 4:00:30 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 3:15:12 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 2:08:43 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> not   used by    NASSA  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A lie. > > =========> > you  lie   shamelessly  or ignorantly or maliciously
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> they use  the ordinary Newtonian  physics !
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For some applications. For other applications, they use GR. 
>>>>> ====================tell  us exactly for which application they use 
>>>>> curved space
>>>>> and for what 
>>>>> that not use it ??
>>>> 
>>>> Many. Do your own googling. 
>>>> 
>>>>> just general hand waving is cheating  
>>>>> 
>>>>> ==== 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I didn't not invent  that information 
>>>>>>> I got it her from   one of the members 
>>>>>>> I would  like to those who really know about it 
>>>>>>> to get in ! > > 
>>>>>>> ===> >>> not used by G P  S
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A lie.
>>>>>>> again  
>>>>>>> of course   for an  idiot parrot like you 
>>>>>>> that understand nothing about it ??
>>>>>>> and take Wikipedia  as a judge    
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not Wikipedia. The actual design specs for the system. Online.
>>>>> 
>>>>> they might use SR
>>>>> but  no way GR 
>>>> 
>>>> Wrong. 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.ipgp.fr/~tarantola/Files/Professional/GPS/Ashby_2003.pdf
>>>> 
>>>>> a parrot le you 
>>>>> does not take in  account   
>>>>> that e m  waves might curve some
>>>>> as in he Edington experiment 
>>>>> but listen carefully
>>>>> IT IS BECAUSE E M   WAVWES 
>>>>> can  curve because
>>>>> of &??? ---
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---THE GRAVITATIO NOF OUR EAT   MASS !!
>>>>> MASS   MASS GO TIT PARROT ??
>>>>> 
>>>>> =========> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> cannot explain/ predict /  calculate    ''free fall
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A Lie 
>>>>>>> nasty lier  
>>>>>>> I amtalking about 
>>>>>>> not jus free fall
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> the Galileo   experiment 
>>>>>>> in which 
>>>>>>> A SMALL  MASS IS FALLING NEXT TO A BIG MASS 
>>>>>>> LISTEN CAREFULLY
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> AT THE SAME TIME !!
>>>>>>> how can it be
>>>>>>> tell us how 'curved space' kook like around those 2 masses !!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Look like  is different than explain / predict / calculate. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> imbecile !!!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> . 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> does not have enough basic dimensions 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Silly notion. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> idiot moron  lier 
>>>>>>> what  are the physical   dimensions of curved   **space** ??
>>>>>>> mass ? time ??
>>>>>>> nasty   pig !!
>>>>>>> ==============================
>>>>> 2
>>>>> CAN  YOU MEASURE **LEGTH** IN SPACE 
>>>>> THAT HAS NO MASS  POINTS TO RELAT TO ??!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Yes!
>>>> 
>>>> Your mind is stuck on tangible, material things. 
>>>> More can be measured than material, tangible things. 
>>>> 
>>>>> ==============and !!
>>>>> you didn't answer me 
>>>>> how is curved  space look  like AND CALCULATED 
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve already answered this in the last month. I showed you the
>>>> calculations. 
>>> ==========================
>>> ==DAM LIER
>>> SO AGAIN
>>> don't Give me/US  words and figures
>>> 
>>> BRING US GEOMETRY   PICTURE 
>>> OR EVEN A ACHEEM  
>> 
>> How do you propose to bring a picture to a text forum? 
> 
> -----
> 
> thank you for your question 
> (:-)
> 
> ''ONE PICTURE IS WORTH A THUSAND WORDS' 
> DID   YOU EVER HEAR ABOUTH  IT 
> and  may be you can add words to a  picture or a sketch 
> it is welcome 
> but sometimes 
> impossible !!


Indeed. Which is why it is silly to demand a picture here. If you want a
picture use google. Like normal folks. 

> 
> see again :
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
> I   tried to ' deass  it''
> by a dynamic  ''dress'  
> by  adding a few sketches …btw 
> please  note it is from 1993 !!!if I remember  right the date 
> TIA
> Y.P       
> =========
> 
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> geometry is not bubbling words  
>>> it seem e that you never was dealing trained    with 3D geometry !!!
>>> got   it    fucker  ? 
>>> 
>>> 3 D GEOMETRY    
>>> CURVATURE**** IS NOT F EN WORDS 
>>> IT  IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO  PRACTICE AND LEARN !!!
>>> 
>>> ====
>>>> 
>>>>> at the Galileo  experiment 
>>>>> with  free fall  off 
>>>>> big mass**** anD small  mass**** side  by  side!!-
>>>>> THAT DO IT EXACLY AT THE SAME FREEFALL TME !!>>!!exactly same !!!
>>>>> =and why 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> curve space cannot cope with the strong forces of the nuc ??
>>> piggy
>>> you did not answer that  !!!
>> 
>> Just did, right below. General relativity is not a theory of all
>> interactions. Just one. Get a grip. 
>> 
>>> ========= 
>>>> 
>>>> That’s right and it shouldn’t. Curved space is a theory of gravity, not a
>>>> theory of all interactions. Idiot.
>>> ===
>>> why piggy it 'should not curve '' ?? 
>>> because
>>> you are a shameless   crock
>>> AND CRIMINAL AGAINT MANKIND ??? !!
>>> 
>>> and   invent
>>> 
>>> AS YOU    LKIE''   IT PHYSICS !!!
>>> 'sometimes    curve and sometimes do not curve !!!/?
>>> why  and  
>>> because you can not   bring a a  s  scientific reason ??!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ======================
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> you evaded that question of mine !!
>>>>> 
>>>>> and you talk about   deliberate  cheating ??
>>>>> half of the truth 
>>>>> is cheating 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wasting  precious  human resources for too  long!!   
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> in short
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> IT IS (gravity ) DONE BY   ** MASS** !! (and  not only gravity done by mass )
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> more than  time for some    innovations !!  
>>>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>>>> excuse my bluntness :     
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ONE BIG HARMFULL -  'BULL SHIT' !!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ===================> >>> TIA
>>>>>>>>> Y. Porat
>>>>>>>>> ====================> >>> 11/16/2018     
>>>>>>>>> =====================     
>>>>>>> ==================== TIA
>>>>> to cleaver decent  responsible people 
>>>>> 
>>>>> that are not criminals against mankind !!
>>>>> we need badly some new  advance  
>>>>> 
>>>>> mass  is the creator  of all  forces !! 
>>>>> INCLUDING   GRAVITY 
>>>>> 
>>>>> the Faraday experiment * permanent**!!!  magnet 
>>>>> was the first  hint for it !
>>>>> (now the Chinese  did  it in a bigger scale )
>>> see again the alternative !!! -to IDIOTIC curved space --
>>> 
>>> =DON BY MASS  !!!!!!!!!
>>> ========================================
>>> see the alternative   done by MASS!!  
>>> 
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract  
>>> 
>>> AT ITS APPENDIX  !!!
>>> =============== 
>>> TIA
>>> Y.P
>>> ======================== 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#713206

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-18 06:43 -0800
Message-ID<16845f7d-d963-49ae-8d9e-7f6df19fc4ff@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#713204
Odd
“why it is silly ”
I’ve explained why your ‘model’ is silly:
it uses ‘points’
it uses ‘suck’ gravity
it uses ‘vacuum/nothingness’
it denies that moving/accelerating charges must radiate
it denies that...
No.
Too many things to write 
Odds not worth it

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#713209

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-18 07:04 -0800
Message-ID<ad54f22b-4be9-47f3-b489-33a1d179321f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#713206
On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 4:43:34 PM UTC+2, john wrote:
> Odd
> “why it is silly ”
> I’ve explained why your ‘model’ is silly:
> it uses ‘points’
> it uses ‘suck’ gravity
> it uses ‘vacuum/nothingness’
> it denies that moving/accelerating charges must radiate
> it denies that...
> No.
> Too many things to write 
> Odds not worth it
======================
thank you John!!

WE ATARTED A REVOUSION IN PHYSICS  
IT IS INEVITATABLE !!!!     

nothing will  stop us   even  not genius anonymous ''Bod''
and alike parrots    !!!   

TIA
Y.P
=====================   

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#713213

FromMelvin <invalid@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-18 07:58 -0800
Message-ID<pss268$e5o$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#713209
> WE ATARTED A REVOUSION IN PHYSICS
> IT IS INEVITATABLE !!!!
> 
'ATARTED' is not a word!

'FARTED' is a word!

Learn English silly donkey-bottom-wiper
dunce dork-nose boring lunatic troll
person who is wrong all the time!

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#713221

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-18 17:07 +0000
Message-ID<pss67l$m2q$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#713209
<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 4:43:34 PM UTC+2, john wrote:
>> Odd
>> why it is silly 
>> Ive explained why your model is silly:
>> it uses points
>> it uses suck gravity
>> it uses vacuum/nothingness
>> it denies that moving/accelerating charges must radiate
>> it denies that...
>> No.
>> Too many things to write 
>> Odds not worth it
> =====================thank you John!!
> 
> WE ATARTED A REVOUSION IN PHYSICS  
> IT IS INEVITATABLE !!!!     
> 
> nothing will  stop us   even  not genius anonymous ''Bod''
> and alike parrots    !!!   
> 
> TIA
> Y.P
> =====================   
> 

I look forward to seeing this inevitatable revousion you’ve atarted,
whatever that is. Is it a kind of fish?

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#713754

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-21 09:30 -0800
Message-ID<5e0a7421-2510-43c5-86dd-ad237c146b79@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#713221
On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 9:07:05 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 4:43:34 PM UTC+2, john wrote:
> >> Odd
> >>  why it is silly  
> >> I ve explained why your  model  is silly:
> >> it uses  points 
> >> it uses  suck  gravity
> >> it uses  vacuum/nothingness 
> >> it denies that moving/accelerating charges must radiate
> >> it denies that...
> >> No.
> >> Too many things to write 
> >> Odds not worth it
> > =====================thank you John!!
> > 
> > WE ATARTED A REVOUSION IN PHYSICS  
> > IT IS INEVITATABLE !!!!     
> > 
> > nothing will  stop us   even  not genius anonymous ''Bod''
> > and alike parrots    !!!   
> > 
> > TIA
> > Y.P
> > =====================   
> > 
> 
> I look forward to seeing this inevitatable revousion you’ve atarted,
> whatever that is. Is it a kind of fish?
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Its vibrating strings from core to core.Read my posting on this.Its reality Bert

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#713761

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-11-21 09:52 -0800
Message-ID<6509679c-90f1-47c8-a96e-0f8b154c51a5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#713754
On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:30:21 PM UTC+2, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 9:07:05 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 4:43:34 PM UTC+2, john wrote:
> > >> Odd
> > >>  why it is silly  
> > >> I ve explained why your  model  is silly:
> > >> it uses  points 
> > >> it uses  suck  gravity
> > >> it uses  vacuum/nothingness 
> > >> it denies that moving/accelerating charges must radiate
> > >> it denies that...
> > >> No.
> > >> Too many things to write 
> > >> Odds not worth it
> > > =====================thank you John!!
> > > 
> > > WE ATARTED A REVOUSION IN PHYSICS  
> > > IT IS INEVITATABLE !!!!     
> > > 
> > > nothing will  stop us   even  not genius anonymous ''Bod''
> > > and alike parrots    !!!   
> > > 
> > > TIA
> > > Y.P
> > > =====================   
> > > 
> > 
> > I look forward to seeing this inevitatable revousion you’ve atarted,
> > whatever that is. Is it a kind of fish?
> > 
> > -- 
> > Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> Its vibrating strings from core to core.Read my posting on this.Its reality Bert
====================
ok 
but still   it is mass   movement  !!
not just lines !!


==============
Y.P
=================

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#713222

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-18 17:07 +0000
Message-ID<pss67m$m2q$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#713206
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “why it is silly ”
> I’ve explained why your ‘model’ is silly:

Yes you have. It violates John laws that you’ve invented but can’t justify.
It’s just what you personally believe, John. Your choice to believe what
you will. Just don’t imagine that others share your peculiar world view. 

> it uses ‘points’
> it uses ‘suck’ gravity
> it uses ‘vacuum/nothingness’
> it denies that moving/accelerating charges must radiate
> it denies that...
> No.
> Too many things to write 
> Odds not worth it
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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