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CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!!

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  CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-03 22:25 -0700
    Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-03 22:27 -0700
    Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-04 08:52 -0800
      Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 18:45 +0000
        Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-04 12:10 -0800
          Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 22:14 +0000
            Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 17:08 -0800
            Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-04 18:23 -0800
              Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-04 18:55 -0800
              Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 03:00 +0000
                Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-04 22:17 -0800
                  Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 12:59 +0000
                    Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-05 06:46 -0800
                      Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 15:26 +0000
                        Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 07:55 -0800
                          Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 17:42 +0000
                            Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 10:20 -0800
                              Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 21:28 +0000
                                Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-05 16:42 -0800
                            Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 10:24 -0800
                        Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-05 10:27 -0800
              Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! Davey Jones <djones1998@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 20:15 -0800
          Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 17:21 -0800
            Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 21:50 -0500
              Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-05 22:34 -0800
            Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-05 22:32 -0800
      Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-11-05 13:59 -0800
        Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-05 16:53 -0800
        Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-06 13:15 -0800
          Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-11-06 14:03 -0800
            Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-06 14:52 -0800
              Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 18:25 -0500
              Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-06 22:30 -0800
            Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-06 22:21 -0800
    Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! "I. Seymour Butts" <invalid@example.com> - 2018-11-04 09:37 -0800
    Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! Steve Jones <SJones1995@gmaile.com> - 2018-11-06 19:05 -0800
      Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-06 22:39 -0800
        Re: CURVED SPACE'' -AND THER EDIGTON EXPERIMENT ??!! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-07 01:38 -0800

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#711652

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-05 10:27 -0800
Message-ID<e95d92da-cf7f-496f-9207-07db9d434bc2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711631
On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 5:26:25 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 2:59:08 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 5:00:47 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 12:14:44 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:45:32 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
> >>>>>>>>>> his 'curved space ''THEORY  
> >>>>>>>>>> if so 
> >>>>>>>>>> can  anyone  hear  tell   us
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
> >>>>>>>>>> DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!> >>>> --and around   it 
> >>>>>>>>>> and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> TIA
> >>>>>>>>>> Y.Porat
> >>>>>>>>>> =======================> >>> 
> >>>>>>>>> no answer is an answer as well !!!!
> >>>>>>>>> until now
> >>>>>>>>> no one can explain /describe 
> >>>>>>>>> how    curved space
> >>>>>>>>> look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Manipulative lying. You said the same thing about curvature calculations,
> >>>>>>>> and you said the same thing about GR in the GPS system. Then when given
> >>>>>>>> answers you went mute. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Now here you are doing it on another topic. 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> I man  not  only in this    NG
> >>>>>>>>> but in general and   everywhere 
> >>>>>>>>> just mumblings are  going on  here 
> >>>>>>>>> and there 
> >>>>>>>>> ==============> >>> TIA
> >>>>>>>>> Y.P
> >>>>>>>>> ==============> >>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> =================> > what is that you don't understand little parrot
> >>>>>>> I wanted to show  
> >>>>>>> that idiots like you 
> >>>>>>> speak about curved  space  right ??
> >>>>>>> as the maim actor of gravity
> >>>>>>> if so
> >>>>>>> I ask you to  discrine your 'main hero of gravity
> >>>>>>> called  CURVED SPACE 
> >>>>>>> that is doing  gravity
> >>>>>>> if so 
> >>>>>>> just go on and tell us how is that curved  space of your (AND NOT MASES
> >>>>>>> !!) just the  great magician 
> >>>>>>> that you call ''curved space' is creating   gravity in  that  Edington experiment ?
> >>>>>>> so 
> >>>>>>> if it such a big magician  (that curved space '')
> >>>>>>> tell us 
> >>>>>>> how is that wizard  (curved  space )
> >>>>>>> how is took like while so many masses are  involved in it _
> >>>>>>> is it just one curve around all involved  masses
> >>>>>>> is  it many  different curves   around any mass  involved with it   etc etc 
> >>>>>>> in short 
> >>>>>>> you have not the faintest idea  about what you are 
> >>>>>>> mumbling around magic curved space that  is actually
> >>>>>>> A BIG NOTHING !!
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> That s wrong. Sorry. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> got it idiot crock ??
> >>>>>>> if you don't understand 
> >>>>>>> say
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I DONT  UNDERSAND WAHT I AM TALKING ABOUT   
> >>>>>>> JUST BASIC DECENCY !!
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> that  is demanded form a real  scientist
> >>>>>>> we are not here 
> >>>>>>> in a fish (fishy )market !!!
> >>>>>>> ==> > Y.Porat 
> >>>>>>> ==============================================> > > 
> >>>>>> ==================I ask you Bodkin 
> >>>>> a simple question :
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> the  EDIGTON EXPERIMENT WAS CONSIDRED 
> >>>>> a big triumph of 'curves space'
> >>>>> in that experiment at  least   
> >>>>> 3 main Msses  where involved  in  it
> >>>>> if  so
> >>>>> a basic  needed question has to be explained :
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> how was ''curved space' was looking like 
> >>>>> even just approximately  like --
> >>>>> -- during that famous experiment ?!!
> >>>>> that was considered  a breakthrough experiment 
> >>>>> for 
> >>>>> curved space' story ??
> >>>> 
> >>>> I already showed you how to calculate the curvature of spacetime in the
> >>>> vicinity of the earth s surface, using the simple everyday observation of
> >>>> throwing a baseball 30 feet.
> > 
> > ===============
> > YOU DINT ANSWR 
> > HOW DOES YOUR FEN CURVED SPACE
> > LOOK LIKE  
> > AROUND    THE 3!!!! MASSES INVOLVED 
> > SUN 
> > PLANT
> > AND EARTH ??!
> 
> What plant? You mean planet? The only planet involved in the Eddington
> experiment was the Earth. If you don’t know what Eddington did, try reading
> a book about it. 
> 
> There are 4D wells surrounding the sun and the earth, and the one around
> the sun dominates the experiment completely for obvious reasons. 
> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> This same kind of calculation can be used to calculate the curvature of
> >>>> spacetime near the sun s surface. Just follow the same calculation.
> > 
> > PIGGY
> > TELL US HOE IT LOOKS LIKE ALL 
> > ARUND ALLABOVE  3  MASSES /!!???
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>>> Substituting the mass and radius of the sun for the mass and radius of the
> >>>> earth. 
> > ===
> > BUT PIGGY 
> > YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH ** ALL**  OF THEM
> >   simultaneously !!!!
> > because ha was the REALITY THERE qq
> 
> No, you really don’t. The sun was BY FAR the biggest mass in the experiment
> and so the effect of any other bodies is negligible. Second, the bending
> only is significant if the light is grazing tangentially. The light came in
> almost vertically to the earth and so no significant bending happens there.
> 
> 
> You really have NO idea other than a cartoon version what this experiment
> measured and how, do you?
> 
> > 
> > er
> > ========
> > 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 2
> >>>>> I was asking another question 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> what are/is  the minimal number of basic physical dimensions 
> >>>>> that are  the   needed for a PHYSICAL ENTITY
> >>>>> IN  ORDER OF BEING CONSIDERD  
> >>>>> A PHYSICAL  ENTITY ??!
> >>>> 
> >>>> There aren t any minimal ones. 
> > =
> > oh o see 
> > length is good enough for all  sound  physics?
> > but even for length
> > you need point of mass there !! 
> > you did not answer that
> >  !
> > complicated for a genius like you ???
> >  > >>> ================TIA
> >>>> ==============================imbecile !!!!
> >>> 
> >>> if just length   is goo enough to  make it 
> >>> AN **ACTIVE* PHYSICAL ENRITY !!!???!!
> >>> what for were the 
> >>> M K S or c g s system whee created ??
> >> ===============================================
> >> Not for what you think. Not to set a minimum for physical entity.
> > ==================
> > if so 
> > FOR WAHT ??!!
> 
> For setting a stable and reproducible standard for unit measures. Period.
> That’s ALL its for. 
>=============================== 

but dont  you notice that it is **a whole ** set
unseparated set !!
if one of them   is missing
the whole set collapse  !!
ie
others may be not active
but needed  even as as   passive  
show  me how cant  here be a physical 
phenomenon
in which  you/we can use  only one dimension
and assume that  only  one dimension is  acting
and all the  others  are ***unnecessary* there ??

even  as passive ??
for  instance 

if you  climb on a lather 
you are active
while the lather  is passive 
but you cant do it without that  lather!
how about that 
===============================================
I > > UNLESS   THERE ARE POINTS OF MASSIN IY ?? !!
> > 
> > == 
> >> 
> >>> and used  SO LONG AND SO  SUCCESFULL YY !!!
> >>> 2
> >>> can you  
> >>> even  just detect a physical  entity that has 
> >>> for instance no mass ??
> >>> 
> >>> sorry my rudeness  but there should be a limit 
> >>> to damaging 
> >>> 
> >>> ==Y.P
> >>> =============   
 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
======
yes  indeed exactly  -- toys

you could not describe yourself better...
at least you  Saied   something  right about yourself ... 

just a little improvised joke of  mine (:-) believe it or not
some   people  find that here and  there 
I have some humor sense ... 
====
TIA
Y.P
================

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#711585

FromDavey Jones <djones1998@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-04 20:15 -0800
Message-ID<prog55$u34$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#711564
Get a brain.

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#711776

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-05 17:21 -0800
Message-ID<9d456b98-d965-4ab7-b83d-1d9983321352@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711499
On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 12:10:37 PM UTC-8, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:45:32 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
> > >> his 'curved space ''THEORY  
> > >> if so 
> > >> can  anyone  hear  tell   us
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
> > >> DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!=
> > >> --and around   it 
> > >> and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
> > >> 
> > >> TIA
> > >> Y.Porat
> > >> ========================
> > > 
> > > no answer is an answer as well !!!!
> > > until now
> > > no one can explain /describe 
> > > how    curved space
> > > look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
> > 
> > Manipulative lying. You said the same thing about curvature calculations,
> > and you said the same thing about GR in the GPS system. Then when given
> > answers you went mute. 
> > 
> > Now here you are doing it on another topic. 
> > 
> > > I man  not  only in this    NG
> > > but in general and   everywhere 
> > > just mumblings are  going on  here 
> > > and there 
> > > ===============
> > > TIA
> > > Y.P
> > > ===============
> > > 
> > >  
>  
> ==================
> what is that you don't understand little parrot
> I wanted to show  
> that idiots like you 
> speak about curved  space  right ??
> as the maim actor of gravity
> if so
> I ask you to  discrine your 'main hero of gravity
> called  CURVED SPACE 
> that is doing  gravity
> if so 
> just go on and tell us how is that curved  space of your (AND NOT MASES !!) just the  great magician 
> that you call ''curved space' is creating   gravity in  that  Edington experiment ?
> so 
> if it such a big magician  (that curved space '')
> tell us 
> how is that wizard  (curved  space )
> how is took like while so many masses are  involved in it _
> is it just one curve around all involved  masses
> is  it many  different curves   around any mass  involved with it   etc etc 
> in short 
> you have not the faintest idea  about what you are 
> mumbling around magic curved space that  is actually
> A BIG NOTHING !!
> 
> got it idiot crock ??
> if you don't understand 
> say
> 
> I DONT  UNDERSAND WAHT I AM TALKING ABOUT   
> JUST BASIC DECENCY !!
> 
> that  is demanded form a real  scientist
> we are not here 
> in a fish (fishy )market !!!
> ===
> Y.Porat 
> ===============================================

Gravity is the reason that going from A to B can not be a straight line.Reason why nature loves the circle.Why spin is in.Orbit etc.Bert

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#711794

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-05 21:50 -0500
Message-ID<prqvhl$15i9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#711776
On 11/5/2018 8:21 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 12:10:37 PM UTC-8, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:45:32 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
>>>>> his 'curved space ''THEORY
>>>>> if so
>>>>> can  anyone  hear  tell   us
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
>>>>> DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!=
>>>>> --and around   it
>>>>> and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Y.Porat
>>>>> ========================
>>>>
>>>> no answer is an answer as well !!!!
>>>> until now
>>>> no one can explain /describe
>>>> how    curved space
>>>> look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
>>>
>>> Manipulative lying. You said the same thing about curvature calculations,
>>> and you said the same thing about GR in the GPS system. Then when given
>>> answers you went mute.
>>>
>>> Now here you are doing it on another topic.
>>>
>>>> I man  not  only in this    NG
>>>> but in general and   everywhere
>>>> just mumblings are  going on  here
>>>> and there
>>>> ===============
>>>> TIA
>>>> Y.P
>>>> ===============
>>>>
>>>>   
>>   
>> ==================
>> what is that you don't understand little parrot
>> I wanted to show
>> that idiots like you
>> speak about curved  space  right ??
>> as the maim actor of gravity
>> if so
>> I ask you to  discrine your 'main hero of gravity
>> called  CURVED SPACE
>> that is doing  gravity
>> if so
>> just go on and tell us how is that curved  space of your (AND NOT MASES !!) just the  great magician
>> that you call ''curved space' is creating   gravity in  that  Edington experiment ?
>> so
>> if it such a big magician  (that curved space '')
>> tell us
>> how is that wizard  (curved  space )
>> how is took like while so many masses are  involved in it _
>> is it just one curve around all involved  masses
>> is  it many  different curves   around any mass  involved with it   etc etc
>> in short
>> you have not the faintest idea  about what you are
>> mumbling around magic curved space that  is actually
>> A BIG NOTHING !!
>>
>> got it idiot crock ??
>> if you don't understand
>> say
>>
>> I DONT  UNDERSAND WAHT I AM TALKING ABOUT
>> JUST BASIC DECENCY !!
>>
>> that  is demanded form a real  scientist
>> we are not here
>> in a fish (fishy )market !!!
>> ===
>> Y.Porat
>> ===============================================
> 
> Gravity is the reason that going from A to B can not be a straight line.Reason why nature loves the circle.Why spin is in.Orbit etc.Bert
> 
Bert has given a lecture in the Eddington Wing of MIT and showed how he 
stops light three inches from its source. Hoo Rah!

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#711812

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-05 22:34 -0800
Message-ID<d6fa2a46-9a93-41f3-b761-42b4092a0e35@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711794
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 4:50:35 AM UTC+2, benj wrote:
> On 11/5/2018 8:21 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 12:10:37 PM UTC-8, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:45:32 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
> >>>>> his 'curved space ''THEORY
> >>>>> if so
> >>>>> can  anyone  hear  tell   us
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
> >>>>> DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!=
> >>>>> --and around   it
> >>>>> and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
> >>>>>
> >>>>> TIA
> >>>>> Y.Porat
> >>>>> ========================
> >>>>
> >>>> no answer is an answer as well !!!!
> >>>> until now
> >>>> no one can explain /describe
> >>>> how    curved space
> >>>> look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
> >>>
> >>> Manipulative lying. You said the same thing about curvature calculations,
> >>> and you said the same thing about GR in the GPS system. Then when given
> >>> answers you went mute.
> >>>
> >>> Now here you are doing it on another topic.
> >>>
> >>>> I man  not  only in this    NG
> >>>> but in general and   everywhere
> >>>> just mumblings are  going on  here
> >>>> and there
> >>>> ===============
> >>>> TIA
> >>>> Y.P
> >>>> ===============
> >>>>
> >>>>   
> >>   
> >> ==================
> >> what is that you don't understand little parrot
> >> I wanted to show
> >> that idiots like you
> >> speak about curved  space  right ??
> >> as the maim actor of gravity
> >> if so
> >> I ask you to  discrine your 'main hero of gravity
> >> called  CURVED SPACE
> >> that is doing  gravity
> >> if so
> >> just go on and tell us how is that curved  space of your (AND NOT MASES !!) just the  great magician
> >> that you call ''curved space' is creating   gravity in  that  Edington experiment ?
> >> so
> >> if it such a big magician  (that curved space '')
> >> tell us
> >> how is that wizard  (curved  space )
> >> how is took like while so many masses are  involved in it _
> >> is it just one curve around all involved  masses
> >> is  it many  different curves   around any mass  involved with it   etc etc
> >> in short
> >> you have not the faintest idea  about what you are
> >> mumbling around magic curved space that  is actually
> >> A BIG NOTHING !!
> >>
> >> got it idiot crock ??
> >> if you don't understand
> >> say
> >>
> >> I DONT  UNDERSAND WAHT I AM TALKING ABOUT
> >> JUST BASIC DECENCY !!
> >>
> >> that  is demanded form a real  scientist
> >> we are not here
> >> in a fish (fishy )market !!!
> >> ===
> >> Y.Porat
> >> ===============================================
> > 
> > Gravity is the reason that going from A to B can not be a straight line.Reason why nature loves the circle.Why spin is in.Orbit etc.Bert
> > 
> Bert has given a lecture in the Eddington Wing of MIT and showed how he 
> stops light three inches from its source. Hoo Rah!
==================
????
Y.P
====================

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#711811

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-05 22:32 -0800
Message-ID<1f34bc4c-edee-41dc-b8e6-0b4f8a1fadd7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711776
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 3:21:21 AM UTC+2, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 12:10:37 PM UTC-8, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:45:32 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > > <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
> > > >> his 'curved space ''THEORY  
> > > >> if so 
> > > >> can  anyone  hear  tell   us
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
> > > >> DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!=
> > > >> --and around   it 
> > > >> and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
> > > >> 
> > > >> TIA
> > > >> Y.Porat
> > > >> ========================
> > > > 
> > > > no answer is an answer as well !!!!
> > > > until now
> > > > no one can explain /describe 
> > > > how    curved space
> > > > look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
> > > 
> > > Manipulative lying. You said the same thing about curvature calculations,
> > > and you said the same thing about GR in the GPS system. Then when given
> > > answers you went mute. 
> > > 
> > > Now here you are doing it on another topic. 
> > > 
> > > > I man  not  only in this    NG
> > > > but in general and   everywhere 
> > > > just mumblings are  going on  here 
> > > > and there 
> > > > ===============
> > > > TIA
> > > > Y.P
> > > > ===============
> > > > 
> > > >  
> >  
> > ==================
> > what is that you don't understand little parrot
> > I wanted to show  
> > that idiots like you 
> > speak about curved  space  right ??
> > as the maim actor of gravity
> > if so
> > I ask you to  discrine your 'main hero of gravity
> > called  CURVED SPACE 
> > that is doing  gravity
> > if so 
> > just go on and tell us how is that curved  space of your (AND NOT MASES !!) just the  great magician 
> > that you call ''curved space' is creating   gravity in  that  Edington experiment ?
> > so 
> > if it such a big magician  (that curved space '')
> > tell us 
> > how is that wizard  (curved  space )
> > how is took like while so many masses are  involved in it _
> > is it just one curve around all involved  masses
> > is  it many  different curves   around any mass  involved with it   etc etc 
> > in short 
> > you have not the faintest idea  about what you are 
> > mumbling around magic curved space that  is actually
> > A BIG NOTHING !!
> > 
> > got it idiot crock ??
> > if you don't understand 
> > say
> > 
> > I DONT  UNDERSAND WAHT I AM TALKING ABOUT   
> > JUST BASIC DECENCY !!
> > 
> > that  is demanded form a real  scientist
> > we are not here 
> > in a fish (fishy )market !!!
> > ===
> > Y.Porat 
> > ===============================================
> 
> Gravity is the reason that going from A to B can not be a straight line.Reason why nature loves the circle.Why spin is in.Orbit etc.Bert
=====================
it is not spin   
it is CURVED  MOTION 
AND THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM 
====
Y.Porat
=================

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#711708

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-11-05 13:59 -0800
Message-ID<0eec75b8-3806-4827-a279-7e951ef0ecd3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711461
On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:52:26 AM UTC-8, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
> >     his 'curved space ''THEORY  
> > if so 
> > can  anyone  hear  tell   us
> > 
> > 
> >  --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
> > DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!=
> > --and around   it 
> > and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
> > 
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ========================
> 
> no answer is an answer as well !!!!
> until now
> no one can explain /describe 
> how    curved space
> look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
> I man  not  only in this    NG
> but in general and   everywhere 
> just mumblings are  going on  here 
> and there 
> ===============
> TIA
> Y.P
> ===============


I'm not sure Eddington was really into curved space.  He kept making statements like "Light has weight!"

Double-A

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#711769

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-05 16:53 -0800
Message-ID<ae353c02-d69f-4542-93d2-c3674066c24e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711708
On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 11:59:23 PM UTC+2, Double-A wrote:
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:52:26 AM UTC-8, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
> > >     his 'curved space ''THEORY  
> > > if so 
> > > can  anyone  hear  tell   us
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
> > > DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!=
> > > --and around   it 
> > > and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
> > > 
> > > TIA
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ========================
> > 
> > no answer is an answer as well !!!!
> > until now
> > no one can explain /describe 
> > how    curved space
> > look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
> > I man  not  only in this    NG
> > but in general and   everywhere 
> > just mumblings are  going on  here 
> > and there 
> > ===============
> > TIA
> > Y.P
> > ===============
> 
> 
> I'm not sure Eddington was really into curved space.  He kept making statements like "Light has weight!"
> 
> Double-A
==================================
thank you again and again 
of coarse !!

LIGHT   (EM WAVES)
HAS MASS- THE  ONLY MASS 

not relativistic and   nor schmelativistic  
I proved  it long ago by analyzing the

E=hf formula 

NOTHNGIN in  IT- HAS A ZERO MULTIPLYER 
NOR A RELATIVISTIC Multiplayer to the M
dimension there in the h factor !!!!!
it is well documented in Google 
sci. physics  many years ago !!  
TIA
Y.Porat
============================

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#711858

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-11-06 13:15 -0800
Message-ID<c9b7e6f8-1199-4737-bbf9-61b8b5f49141@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711708
On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 1:59:23 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote:
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:52:26 AM UTC-8, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
> > >     his 'curved space ''THEORY  
> > > if so 
> > > can  anyone  hear  tell   us
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
> > > DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!=
> > > --and around   it 
> > > and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
> > > 
> > > TIA
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ========================
> > 
> > no answer is an answer as well !!!!
> > until now
> > no one can explain /describe 
> > how    curved space
> > look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
> > I man  not  only in this    NG
> > but in general and   everywhere 
> > just mumblings are  going on  here 
> > and there 
> > ===============
> > TIA
> > Y.P
> > ===============
> 
> 
> I'm not sure Eddington was really into curved space.  He kept making statements like "Light has weight!"

When light is absorbed into the atom it creates the
lightest weight difference. That Heaviness manifests at
the atomic solid surface.

> 
> Double-A

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#711866

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-11-06 14:03 -0800
Message-ID<03f67c0c-2e9b-4329-8818-44b4acf8bc95@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711858
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 1:15:40 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 1:59:23 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:52:26 AM UTC-8, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
> > > >     his 'curved space ''THEORY  
> > > > if so 
> > > > can  anyone  hear  tell   us
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
> > > > DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!=
> > > > --and around   it 
> > > > and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
> > > > 
> > > > TIA
> > > > Y.Porat
> > > > ========================
> > > 
> > > no answer is an answer as well !!!!
> > > until now
> > > no one can explain /describe 
> > > how    curved space
> > > look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
> > > I man  not  only in this    NG
> > > but in general and   everywhere 
> > > just mumblings are  going on  here 
> > > and there 
> > > ===============
> > > TIA
> > > Y.P
> > > ===============
> > 
> > 
> > I'm not sure Eddington was really into curved space.  He kept making statements like "Light has weight!"
> 
> When light is absorbed into the atom it creates the
> lightest weight difference. That Heaviness manifests at
> the atomic solid surface.
> 
> > 
> > Double-A


Yes, an atom gains weight when it absorbs a photon.  Even Einstein argued that when he said that it's inertia is increased.

Double-A

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#711875

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-11-06 14:52 -0800
Message-ID<70892b32-5115-49b2-900a-41b4f4eed64b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711866
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 2:03:33 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 1:15:40 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 1:59:23 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:52:26 AM UTC-8, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
> > > > >     his 'curved space ''THEORY  
> > > > > if so 
> > > > > can  anyone  hear  tell   us
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
> > > > > DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!=
> > > > > --and around   it 
> > > > > and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
> > > > > 
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > ========================
> > > > 
> > > > no answer is an answer as well !!!!
> > > > until now
> > > > no one can explain /describe 
> > > > how    curved space
> > > > look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
> > > > I man  not  only in this    NG
> > > > but in general and   everywhere 
> > > > just mumblings are  going on  here 
> > > > and there 
> > > > ===============
> > > > TIA
> > > > Y.P
> > > > ===============
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure Eddington was really into curved space.  He kept making statements like "Light has weight!"
> > 
> > When light is absorbed into the atom it creates the
> > lightest weight difference. That Heaviness manifests at
> > the atomic solid surface.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Double-A
> 
> 
> Yes, an atom gains weight when it absorbs a photon.  Even Einstein argued that when he said that it's inertia is increased.
> 
> Double-A

No the atomic doesn't speed up Einstein...
But light energy weighs at the atom surface.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#711884

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-06 18:25 -0500
Message-ID<prt7t9$ufv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#711875
On 11/6/2018 5:52 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 2:03:33 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 1:15:40 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 1:59:23 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:52:26 AM UTC-8, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
>>>>>>      his 'curved space ''THEORY
>>>>>> if so
>>>>>> can  anyone  hear  tell   us
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
>>>>>> DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!=
>>>>>> --and around   it
>>>>>> and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>> Y.Porat
>>>>>> ========================
>>>>>
>>>>> no answer is an answer as well !!!!
>>>>> until now
>>>>> no one can explain /describe
>>>>> how    curved space
>>>>> look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
>>>>> I man  not  only in this    NG
>>>>> but in general and   everywhere
>>>>> just mumblings are  going on  here
>>>>> and there
>>>>> ===============
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Y.P
>>>>> ===============
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure Eddington was really into curved space.  He kept making statements like "Light has weight!"
>>>
>>> When light is absorbed into the atom it creates the
>>> lightest weight difference. That Heaviness manifests at
>>> the atomic solid surface.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Double-A
>>
>>
>> Yes, an atom gains weight when it absorbs a photon.  Even Einstein argued that when he said that it's inertia is increased.
>>
>> Double-A
> 
> No the atomic doesn't speed up Einstein...
> But light energy weighs at the atom surface.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 
Babbling gibberish, Roy.

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#711976

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-06 22:30 -0800
Message-ID<adf7541d-35c6-4126-a0ef-c8c88565374f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711875
On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 12:52:43 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 2:03:33 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 1:15:40 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 1:59:23 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:52:26 AM UTC-8, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
> > > > > >     his 'curved space ''THEORY  
> > > > > > if so 
> > > > > > can  anyone  hear  tell   us
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
> > > > > > DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!=
> > > > > > --and around   it 
> > > > > > and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > ========================
> > > > > 
> > > > > no answer is an answer as well !!!!
> > > > > until now
> > > > > no one can explain /describe 
> > > > > how    curved space
> > > > > look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
> > > > > I man  not  only in this    NG
> > > > > but in general and   everywhere 
> > > > > just mumblings are  going on  here 
> > > > > and there 
> > > > > ===============
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Y.P
> > > > > ===============
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not sure Eddington was really into curved space.  He kept making statements like "Light has weight!"
> > > 
> > > When light is absorbed into the atom it creates the
> > > lightest weight difference. That Heaviness manifests at
> > > the atomic solid surface.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Double-A
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, an atom gains weight when it absorbs a photon.  Even Einstein argued that when he said that it's inertia is increased.
> > 
> > Double-A
> 
> No the atomic doesn't speed up Einstein...
> But light energy weighs at the atom surface.
=====================
not clear !
'energy weights at the Atom surface'  but how ??? ??

what  to you know about atom surface ??

in general sounds more of less reasonable 

but ]
the devil and angle    are in the details'' 

ATB
Y.P
============================

> 
> Mitchell Raemsch

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#711975

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-06 22:21 -0800
Message-ID<aa93aad5-3ebc-4e1c-825b-de6d7e63a28b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711866
On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 12:03:33 AM UTC+2, Double-A wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 1:15:40 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 1:59:23 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:52:26 AM UTC-8, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > one of the big' Triumphs'    of Einstein about
> > > > >     his 'curved space ''THEORY  
> > > > > if so 
> > > > > can  anyone  hear  tell   us
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  --HOW WAS  'CURVED SOPACE'  LOOK LIKE
> > > > > DURING THAT EDIGTON EXPERINET ??!!=
> > > > > --and around   it 
> > > > > and even  if difficult - just in general lines ??
> > > > > 
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > ========================
> > > > 
> > > > no answer is an answer as well !!!!
> > > > until now
> > > > no one can explain /describe 
> > > > how    curved space
> > > > look like  at the Edington  experiment !!!
> > > > I man  not  only in this    NG
> > > > but in general and   everywhere 
> > > > just mumblings are  going on  here 
> > > > and there 
> > > > ===============
> > > > TIA
> > > > Y.P
> > > > ===============
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure Eddington was really into curved space.  He kept making statements like "Light has weight!"
> > 
> > When light is absorbed into the atom it creates the
> > lightest weight difference. That Heaviness manifests at
> > the atomic solid surface.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Double-A
> 
> 
> Yes, an atom gains weight when it absorbs a photon.  Even Einstein argued that when he said that it's inertia is increased.
> 
> Double-A
=====================
indeed a pity that s many parrots do not get it !!

never mind
it is inevitable !!
time -if not quick wit -- will    do it!!!
real revolutions  always- took time
sooner or later 

Thanks  A  A 
==
Y.Porat
===========================

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#711469

From"I. Seymour Butts" <invalid@example.com>
Date2018-11-04 09:37 -0800
Message-ID<prnap7$15em$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#711412
No brain for posting
just impotent boasting

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#711944

FromSteve Jones <SJones1995@gmaile.com>
Date2018-11-06 19:05 -0800
Message-ID<prtkp5$1ea7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#711412
Learn how to spell "Eddington" you boring lunatic.

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#711977

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-06 22:39 -0800
Message-ID<aec8a12b-c36b-4e15-8d57-3656d66144d1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711944
On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 5:05:14 AM UTC+2, Steve Jones wrote:
> Learn how to spell "Eddington" you boring lunatic.

==========================
little dreCK pig shit - miserable creature -hired gangster   
this is not a Shakespeare  literature ng 
if you can comment   physics -do it-  if not 
than Fuick of !!
or may be others here will fuck of  
====
Y.P
========================

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#711990

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-07 01:38 -0800
Message-ID<3a4b8f73-b37e-4eff-930f-e4d1ee86e9af@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711977
On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 8:40:02 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 5:05:14 AM UTC+2, Steve Jones wrote:
> > Learn how to spell "Eddington" you boring lunatic.
> 
> ==========================
> little dreCK pig shit - miserable creature -hired gangster   
> this is not a Shakespeare  literature ng 
> if you can comment   physics -do it-  if not 
> than Fuick of !!
> or may be others here will fuck  you of  
> ====
> Y.P
> ========================

next !
to  human laver decent human beings 
it is   more  than   time for it 
==
Y.P
======================

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