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WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

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  WHY  NASSA   DOES NOT USE ' CURVED  SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-29 23:18 -0700
    Re:WHY  NASSA   DOES NOT USE ' CURVED  SPACE ''!!?? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-30 09:54 +0100
      Re: WHY  NASSA   DOES NOT USE ' CURVED  SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-30 04:53 -0700
        Re: WHY  NASSA   DOES NOT USE ' CURVED  SPACE ''!!?? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 06:43 -0700
          Re: WHY  NASSA   DOES NOT USE ' CURVED  SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-30 07:53 -0700
        Re: WHY  NASSA   DOES NOT USE ' CURVED  SPACE ''!!?? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-30 14:56 +0100
          Re: WHY  NASSA   DOES NOT USE ' CURVED  SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-30 11:00 -0700
    Re:WHY  NASSA   DOES NOT USE ' CURVED  SPACE ''!!?? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-30 10:15 +0100
    Re: WHY NASSA  DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 14:04 +0000
      Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-30 14:37 +0000
        Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-30 08:06 -0700
      Re: WHY NASSA  DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-30 07:58 -0700
        Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-30 15:13 +0000
        Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 18:04 +0000
      Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 13:17 -0400
        Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-30 10:44 -0700
          Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 18:04 +0000
      Re: WHY NASSA  DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-30 10:51 -0700
        Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 18:13 +0000
          Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-30 13:07 -0700
            Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 21:48 +0000
    Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-30 09:10 -0500
      Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-30 07:59 -0700
        Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-30 10:14 -0500
      Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-30 08:02 -0700
      Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 08:16 -0700
        Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-30 15:57 -0700
          Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-30 23:59 -0700
            Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-31 00:08 -0700
              Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-11-01 14:34 -0700
                Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-01 18:18 -0700
    Re: WHY  NASSA   DOES NOT USE ' CURVED  SPACE ''!!?? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 08:10 -0700
      Re: WHY  NASSA   DOES NOT USE ' CURVED  SPACE ''!!?? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-11-02 14:44 -0700
        Re: WHY  NASSA   DOES NOT USE ' CURVED  SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-02 22:02 -0700
          Re: WHY NASSA  DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 13:28 +0000
          Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-11-03 14:41 +0000
            Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-03 11:11 -0700
              Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!?? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 18:32 +0000

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#710439 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-30 21:48 +0000
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<prajjg$10k7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#710432
<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 8:13:49 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 4:04:10 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> why''  NASSA 
>>>>> DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
>>>>> in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> =================> > 
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Y.Porat
>>>>> =====================> > 
>>>> 
>>>> NASA trajectories are all in regions of weak gravity, and there Newtonian
>>>> physics, though an approximation, is generally adequate to high precision.
>>>> Other applications in higher gravitational fields or to even higher
>>>> precision than what NASA requires might well require GR. 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin   Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> =====================not clear!!
>>> Does to  send a human  being to mars
>>> -does snot mean :
>>> 
>>> USING THE BEST ACURATE    CALCULATIONS
>>> that ARE AVALABLE ???!!!
>>> 
>>> TIA
>>> Y.P
>>> ==================> > 
>> 
>> No, its simply not necessary. 
>> As an engineer should know, you use calculations that are as good as you
>> need them to be. Engineers do this all the time. 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin  Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> ===================common   Bodkin
> 
> to send a human   being to mars 
> is not  a   ''''as you like it program'' 
> is done  and should be  by 
> the   highest 
> MOST RELIABLE CALCULATION AND VALIDITY DATA ::

Sorry, but no. 

Engineers do this all the time. There are microscopic inclusions in steel
beams. Engineers do not do calculations that include the impact of those
inclusions when they design structures because they usually don’t need to,
even if the structure needs to support thousands of people every day.
That’s because it is not necessary to use the most precise calculations
available to design solutions that have human impact. If it were, then
every design would need supercomputer time. And you and I both know this is
not true. 

> 
> it is the most **RESPONSIBLE* task that can be 
> lif or dead !!
> and anyone who do it with  responsibility
> will choose    the beast theory or practice available !!
> as abridge engineer 
> please dont teach me how a serious reliable 
> manager of a mission should do 
> he would chose 
> the ''best available ! ::
> similar as a responsible Doctor of medicine 
> would behave to do    the best !!
> not a   children game 
> not a gambler game
> 
> AND  IF NASSA ****DOES NOT** USE 'CURVES SPACE' 
> BUT NEWTONIAM  PHYSICS 
> it tells he 
> through situation of 'curved space'
> as a reliable theory !!

No, that’s just not so. It is reliable. But it isn’t necessary or, as you
might say, useful to include such subtleties. 

> in  our case a good more than indication 
> that curved space 
> is a poor wrong guess 
> foe me 
> it is an idiotic harmful theory 
> because !!!
> preventing ***the real  theory/reality  
> to come  out and develop  real advance
> that is so badly needed 
> 
> AND ***PREVENTING**WAIST OF PRECIOUS HUMAN RESOURCESS !!
> on nonsense    curved  space  is   doing !!   
> 
> usefulness** is only one among many indications
> that is telling you which is the 
> first priority that you should invest your
> limited  resources !!

That idea just does not play in fundamental science. Usefulness has nothing
to do with it. Not one thing. 

> not to mansion that  we have already !!other possible alternatives
> like
> good experimental  indications  that
> 
> MASS** IS THE CREATOR OF ALL  FORCES !!!
> and please   don t forget
> who  told you that first !!!
> =================================TIA
> Y.Porat
> ================== 
>      
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#710328 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-10-30 09:10 -0500
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<pr9ool$1gf1$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#710305
On 10/30/2018 1:18 AM, yporat08@gmail.com wrote:
> why''  NASSA 
> DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
>  in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
> 
> ==================
> 
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ======================
> 

NASA does, they call it gravity.

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#710346 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-10-30 07:59 -0700
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<ab51f721-eec9-43d7-9714-b20468f063e1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#710328
On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 4:10:34 PM UTC+2, Sergio wrote:
> On 10/30/2018 1:18 AM, yporat08@gmail.com wrote:
> > why''  NASSA 
> > DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
> >  in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
> > 
> > ==================
> > 
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ======================
> > 
> 
> NASA does, they call it gravity.
================
ok gravity''' 
but do they use curved space for it ???

THEY DONT !!!!!
y.p
====================

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#710355 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-10-30 10:14 -0500
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<pr9sh5$1ntr$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#710346
On 10/30/2018 9:59 AM, yporat08@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 4:10:34 PM UTC+2, Sergio wrote:
>> On 10/30/2018 1:18 AM, yporat08@gmail.com wrote:
>>> why''  NASSA 
>>> DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
>>>  in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
>>>
>>> ==================
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Y.Porat
>>> ======================
>>>
>>
>> NASA does, they call it gravity.
> ================
> ok gravity''' 
> but do they use curved space for it ???
> 
> THEY DONT !!!!!
> y.p
> ====================
> 

nothing NASA uses goes that fast to worry about GR curvature,
SR yes - the GPS satellites timing corrections.


AND
checkout this NASA site, a lot of cool stuff

https://trajbrowser.arc.nasa.gov/user_guide.php


trip to Mars at NASA;

https://trajbrowser.arc.nasa.gov/traj_browser.php?NEAs=on&NECs=on&chk_maxMag=on&maxMag=25&chk_maxOCC=on&maxOCC=4&chk_target_list=on&target_list=Mars&mission_class=roundtrip&mission_type=rendezvous&LD1=2015&LD2=2030&maxDT=2.5&DTunit=yrs&maxDV=7.0&min=DV&wdw_width=365&submit=Search#a_load_results

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#710348 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-10-30 08:02 -0700
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<cec5d400-e14d-4cc2-bb53-bc177ac63cb0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#710328
On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 4:10:34 PM UTC+2, Sergio wrote:
> On 10/30/2018 1:18 AM, yporat08@gmail.com wrote:
> > why''  NASSA 
> > DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
> >  in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
> > 
> > ==================
> > 
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ======================
> > 
> 
> NASA does, they call it gravity.

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#710356 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-30 08:16 -0700
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<0dd0cc42-2680-4807-b084-eaea21af42ba@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#710328
On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 7:10:34 AM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> On 10/30/2018 1:18 AM, yporat08@gmail.com wrote:
> > why''  NASSA 
> > DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
> >  in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
> > 
> > ==================
> > 
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ======================
> > 
> 
> NASA does, they call it gravity.

Measurements go from center to center.Never from surface to surface.They made that mistake once and it cost millions Bert

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#710443 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-10-30 15:57 -0700
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<cb00d4b7-4025-4f8c-8969-899fc4749cd7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#710356
On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 8:16:32 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 7:10:34 AM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> > On 10/30/2018 1:18 AM, yporat08@gmail.com wrote:
> > > why''  NASSA 
> > > DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
> > >  in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
> > > 
> > > ==================
> > > 
> > > TIA
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ======================
> > > 
> > 
> > NASA does, they call it gravity.
> 
> Measurements go from center to center.Never from surface to surface.They made that mistake once and it cost millions Bert


NASA made such a bonehead mistake?  Sounds like them!

Double-A

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#710501 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-10-30 23:59 -0700
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<f35c084d-f54b-46e5-83e2-80ae8f5f179a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#710443
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 12:57:36 AM UTC+2, Double-A wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 8:16:32 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 7:10:34 AM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> > > On 10/30/2018 1:18 AM, yporat08@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > why''  NASSA 
> > > > DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
> > > >  in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
> > > > 
> > > > ==================
> > > > 
> > > > TIA
> > > > Y.Porat
> > > > ======================
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > NASA does, they call it gravity.
> > 
> > Measurements go from center to center.Never from surface to surface.They made that mistake once and it cost millions Bert
> 
> 
> NASA made such a bonehead mistake?  Sounds like them!
> 
> Double-A
==========================
they  NASSA   are not mistaken 
do you   know why ??

THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO  THEMSELVES 
BEING MISTAKEN  !!!!!!!

unlike too many 
f en parroting SMARTIES    '' physicist''s here  !!
=====
TIA
Y.Porat
=========================
 

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#710502 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-10-31 00:08 -0700
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<fe5a5f46-f0c6-40cd-af19-e0be9174d2d0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#710501
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 8:59:36 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 12:57:36 AM UTC+2, Double-A wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 8:16:32 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 7:10:34 AM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> > > > On 10/30/2018 1:18 AM, yporat08@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > why''  NASSA 
> > > > > DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
> > > > >  in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
> > > > > 
> > > > > ==================
> > > > > 
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > ======================
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > NASA does, they call it gravity.
> > > 
> > > Measurements go from center to center.Never from surface to surface.They made that mistake once and it cost millions Bert
> > 
> > 
> > NASA made such a bonehead mistake?  Sounds like them!
> > 
> > Double-A
> 

==========================
> they  NASSA   are not mistaken 
> do you   know why ??
> 
> THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO  THEMSELVES 
> BEING MISTAKEN  !!!!!!!
> 
> unlike too many 
> f en parroting SMARTIES  -  '' physicist''s here  !!
> =====
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> 
=========================
and that is exactly
why they use  NEWTONIAN PHYSICS !!
AND    NOT THE
 F -N  ''CURVED SPACE '-

---THAT LEASDS TO NOTHING !
 - LEADS TO A DEAD END !!!
=============================

TIA
Y.P
=========================

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#710879 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-11-01 14:34 -0700
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<314fbaca-ee47-41a2-be2c-6418a337cab5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#710502
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 12:08:56 AM UTC-7, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 8:59:36 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 12:57:36 AM UTC+2, Double-A wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 8:16:32 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 7:10:34 AM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> > > > > On 10/30/2018 1:18 AM, yporat08@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > why''  NASSA 
> > > > > > DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
> > > > > >  in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ==================
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > ======================
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > NASA does, they call it gravity.
> > > > 
> > > > Measurements go from center to center.Never from surface to surface.They made that mistake once and it cost millions Bert
> > > 
> > > 
> > > NASA made such a bonehead mistake?  Sounds like them!
> > > 
> > > Double-A
> > 
> 
> ==========================
> > they  NASSA   are not mistaken 
> > do you   know why ??
> > 
> > THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO  THEMSELVES 
> > BEING MISTAKEN  !!!!!!!
> > 
> > unlike too many 
> > f en parroting SMARTIES  -  '' physicist''s here  !!
> > =====
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > 
> =========================
> and that is exactly
> why they use  NEWTONIAN PHYSICS !!
> AND    NOT THE
>  F -N  ''CURVED SPACE '-
> 
> ---THAT LEASDS TO NOTHING !
>  - LEADS TO A DEAD END !!!
> =============================
> 
> TIA
> Y.P
> =========================


Newton, a man way ahead of his time, actually talked about how to put a satellite in orbit!  NASA, not having any ideas of their own, needed such clear cut instructions to follow.

Double-A



  

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#710958 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-01 18:18 -0700
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<185ada42-8404-4e2c-be6b-c5fddb7f9354@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#710879
On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 11:34:44 PM UTC+2, Double-A wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 12:08:56 AM UTC-7, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 8:59:36 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 12:57:36 AM UTC+2, Double-A wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 8:16:32 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 7:10:34 AM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> > > > > > On 10/30/2018 1:18 AM, yporat08@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > why''  NASSA 
> > > > > > > DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
> > > > > > >  in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ==================
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > > ======================
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > NASA does, they call it gravity.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Measurements go from center to center.Never from surface to surface.They made that mistake once and it cost millions Bert
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > NASA made such a bonehead mistake?  Sounds like them!
> > > > 
> > > > Double-A
> > > 
> > 
> > ==========================
> > > they  NASSA   are not mistaken 
> > > do you   know why ??
> > > 
> > > THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO  THEMSELVES 
> > > BEING MISTAKEN  !!!!!!!
> > > 
> > > unlike too many 
> > > f en parroting SMARTIES  -  '' physicist''s here  !!
> > > =====
> > > TIA
> > > Y.Porat
> > > 
> > =========================
> > and that is exactly
> > why they use  NEWTONIAN PHYSICS !!
> > AND    NOT THE
> >  F -N  ''CURVED SPACE '-
> > 
> > ---THAT LEASDS TO NOTHING !
> >  - LEADS TO A DEAD END !!!
> > =============================
> > 
> > TIA
> > Y.P
> > =========================
> 
> 
> Newton, a man way ahead of his time, actually talked about how to put a satellite in orbit!  NASA, not having any ideas of their own, needed such clear cut instructions to follow.
> 
> Double-A
=================================
good for you  A A

and therefore 
  even NASA does not need  ''curved space !!
do you know why ???


BECAUSE 'CURVED   SPACE '
IS ONE  OF THE GREATEST  BULL SHIT
IN THE HISTORY OF PHYSICS !! 

==================
Y.Porat
==============

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#710351

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-30 08:10 -0700
Message-ID<30b2e56d-722e-4753-970f-fd9208f24434@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#710305
On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 11:18:36 PM UTC-7, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> why''  NASSA 
> DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
>  in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
> 
> ==================
> 
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ======================

Snowflakes and universes have much in common.Shape is #1 and number 2 is their infinite number.#3 in time both will fad away.#4 they are white,and can be dirty with dust.#5 they turn.#6 both have lots of hydrogen.#6 Both have life Bert

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#711112

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-11-02 14:44 -0700
Message-ID<3c87a40f-4c19-4d0f-8fe4-ef6b05343250@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#710351
On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 8:10:06 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 11:18:36 PM UTC-7, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > why''  NASSA 
> > DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
> >  in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
> > 
> > ==================
> > 
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ======================
> 
> Snowflakes and universes have much in common.Shape is #1 and number 2 is their infinite number.#3 in time both will fad away.#4 they are white,and can be dirty with dust.#5 they turn.#6 both have lots of hydrogen.#6 Both have life Bert


You forgot:  No two are alike!

Double-A

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#711192

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-02 22:02 -0700
Message-ID<e948457f-6a7f-493a-8531-e6aea6482fbb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711112
On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 11:44:13 PM UTC+2, Double-A wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 8:10:06 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 11:18:36 PM UTC-7, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > why''  NASSA 
> > > DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
> > >  in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
> > > 
> > > ==================
> > > 
> > > TIA
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ======================
> > 
> > Snowflakes and universes have much in common.Shape is #1 and number 2 is their infinite number.#3 in time both will fad away.#4 they are white,and can be dirty with dust.#5 they turn.#6 both have lots of hydrogen.#6 Both have life Bert
> 
> 
> You forgot:  No two are alike!
> 
> Double-A
======================
 but now 
back to  science !!

why even  GPS
does   not need curved space stupidity ??!!

==TIA
Y.Porat
===========================

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#711218 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-03 13:28 +0000
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<prk7q2$cmv$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#711192
<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 11:44:13 PM UTC+2, Double-A wrote:
>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 8:10:06 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 11:18:36 PM UTC-7, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> why''  NASSA 
>>>> DOES NOT USE  ''CUVED  SPACE '--
>>>> in its interstellar  calculations ??!!
>>>> 
>>>> ==================
>>>> 
>>>> TIA
>>>> Y.Porat
>>>> ======================
>>> 
>>> Snowflakes and universes have much in common.Shape is #1 and number 2
>>> is their infinite number.#3 in time both will fad away.#4 they are
>>> white,and can be dirty with dust.#5 they turn.#6 both have lots of
>>> hydrogen.#6 Both have life Bert
>> 
>> 
>> You forgot:  No two are alike!
>> 
>> Double-A
> ======================
>  but now 
> back to  science !!
> 
> why even  GPS
> does   not need curved space stupidity ??!!

It does. It’s built in. 

> 
> ==TIA
> Y.Porat
> ===========================
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#711226 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-11-03 14:41 +0000
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<prkc24$uu3$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#711192
yporat08@gmail.com writes:

> but now 
>back to  science !!

>why even  GPS
>does   not need curved space stupidity ??!!

It does. "Curved space" (spacetime) is the explanation for 45 of the 38
microseconds per day of the time differential between the GPS and a ground
level clock.

( :-) )

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#711260 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

Fromyporat08@gmail.com
Date2018-11-03 11:11 -0700
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<b9c71843-0613-425e-83b9-7c0df0bf6fd6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#711226
On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 4:41:12 PM UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> yporat08@gmail.com writes:
> 
> > but now 
> >back to  science !!
> 
> >why even  GPS
> >does   not need curved space stupidity ??!!
> 
> It does. "Curved space" (spacetime) is the explanation for 45 of the 38
> microseconds per day of the time differential between the GPS and a ground
> level clock.
> 
> ( :-) )
========================
that looks like 
SR
not GR !!
I never  Saied that SR  is not right !!!
===
TIA
Y.P
===============

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#711265 — Re: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-03 18:32 +0000
SubjectRe: WHY NASSA DOES NOT USE ' CURVED SPACE ''!!??
Message-ID<prkpj6$1arn$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#711260
<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 4:41:12 PM UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> yporat08@gmail.com writes:
>> 
>>> but now 
>>> back to  science !!
>> 
>>> why even  GPS
>>> does   not need curved space stupidity ??!!
>> 
>> It does. "Curved space" (spacetime) is the explanation for 45 of the 38
>> microseconds per day of the time differential between the GPS and a ground
>> level clock.
>> 
>> ( :-) )
> ========================
> that looks like 
> SR
> not GR !!

No, it’s GR. Why do you think it’s SR? Know anything about either?

Note that I did a simple Google search for you that led to a simple article
about the role of GR in the GPS design and function. This was just a day or
two ago. Did you read it? No. 

> I never  Saied that SR  is not right !!!
> ===
> TIA
> Y.P
> ===============
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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