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  Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 07:04 -0700
    Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 14:48 +0000
      Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 08:36 -0700
        Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 10:02 -0700
        Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 17:24 +0000
          Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 11:12 -0700
            Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 19:02 +0000
              Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 05:50 -0700
                Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 14:24 +0000
                  Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 10:19 -0700
                    Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 13:12 +0000
                      Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 08:37 -0700
                        Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 17:56 +0000
                    Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-17 16:37 +0000
                      Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 18:02 -0700
                        Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 17:55 +0000
                          Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 12:18 -0700
                            Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 22:47 +0000
                              Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 19:25 -0700
                                Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-19 11:03 +0000
                                  Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-19 04:07 -0700
                                  Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-19 11:10 +0000
                                    Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-19 07:25 -0700
                                      Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-19 08:51 -0700
                                        Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-19 20:37 +0000
                                      Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-19 18:15 +0000
        Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-15 14:09 -0700
    Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 10:26 -0700
      Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 11:13 -0700
        Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 12:50 -0700
      Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 13:26 -0700
    Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 14:55 -0700
    Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 15:28 -0700
    Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 19:25 -0700
      Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 20:52 -0700
        Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-16 12:38 -0500
          Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 10:56 -0700
        Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 08:53 -0700
          Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 09:01 -0700
            Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 12:11 -0700
              Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-20 09:04 -0700
                Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-20 13:38 -0700
    Re: Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-10-20 17:18 -0700

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#708199 — Supermassive black holes give birth to stars, astronomers discover

CBC headline today

Haha.
Told ya so

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#708205

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> CBC headline today
> 
> Haha.
> Told ya so
> 

I looked, didn’t find the reference. Link?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#708210

Odd
“I looked, didn’t find the reference. Link? “
 https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/supermassive-black-hole-birth-stars-1.4042363
Just googled CBC supermassive
Didn’t even get past super
This is over a year old

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#708240

On Monday, October 15, 2018 at 8:36:39 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
> Odd
> “I looked, didn’t find the reference. Link? “
>  https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/supermaBBssive-black-hole-birth-stars-1.4042363
> Just googled CBC supermassive
> Didn’t even get past super
> This is over a year old

BB being of universes greatest force give birth to all that is.Thus G=EMC^2.Think of my BB mass density theory.That is the way all things evolve.Bert

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#708244

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “I looked, didn’t find the reference. Link? “
>  https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/supermassive-black-hole-birth-stars-1.4042363
> Just googled CBC supermassive
> Didn’t even get past super
> This is over a year old
> 

Google gives you CBC because of your location. I have to search harder to
find it. Surely you knew this. 

What’s the point of your comment? That the finding agrees with something
you say would happen, and which by the way gravitational theorists have
been saying would happen for years? Or that the finding disagrees with what
you think the standard theory says? 

Note the journalist’s comment: 
While it was suspected that these supermassive black holes could actually
be giving rise to new stars while simultaneously destroying unfortunate
interlopers, there wasn't enough direct evidence to support that theory.
Until now.


-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#708264

Odd
“What’s the point of your comment? That the finding agrees with something 
you say would happ”
The point is that galactic centres are strongly-rotating vortices. Matter doesn’t stay in there. Matter gets pulled in, pulled apart, reenergized, and shot back out.
It’s a CYCLE. 

There is NOTHING inside the ‘black hole’.
There NEVER HAS BEEN.

Black holes are a direct result of getting gravity backwards

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#708274

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “What’s the point of your comment? That the finding agrees with something 
> you say would happ”
> The point is that galactic centres are strongly-rotating vortices. Matter
> doesn’t stay in there. Matter gets pulled in, pulled apart, reenergized, and shot back out.
> It’s a CYCLE. 
> 
> There is NOTHING inside the ‘black hole’.
> There NEVER HAS BEEN.
> 
> Black holes are a direct result of getting gravity backwards
> 

There is certainly nothing in that article you cited that supports what you
just said. Not a fucking thing. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#708438

Odd
“There is certainly nothing in that article you cited that supports what you 
just said. Not a fucking thing. 
“
Wilful blindness cutting in - this will be normal until the end. Odd can’t change

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#708447

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “There is certainly nothing in that article you cited that supports what you 
> just said. Not a fucking thing. 
> “
> Wilful blindness cutting in - this will be normal until the end. Odd can’t change
> 

No seriously. What part of that article do you think supports your claim.
The link is right there. Let’s quote it. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#708468

Odd
“No seriously. What part of that article do you think supports your claim. 
The link is right there. Let’s quote it. 
“
The title

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#708595

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “No seriously. What part of that article do you think supports your claim. 
> The link is right there. Let’s quote it. 
> “
> The title
> 

Is that all you read???

Did you not read the part in the article where it says scientists have
predicted giving birth to stars for years? Did you not read the part in the
article where it says black holes also eat stars?

No, OF COURSE you didn’t. Because you only read titles. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#708598

Odd
“Did you not read the part in the 
article where it says black holes also eat stars? ”

You can’t prove ANYTHING stayed in the BH.
It’s OBSERVED that as soon as the star shreds, INSTANTLY, outgoing jets are formed. Why would you think anything would stay there? The material is shooting outwards at .9c, for fucksake. It’s not ‘bounce’. And if all THAT material wants to be elsewhere quickly, which part would stay?
You’re STILL refusing to think

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#708626

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “Did you not read the part in the 
> article where it says black holes also eat stars? ”
> 
> You can’t prove ANYTHING stayed in the BH.

So what you are saying is that there are parts of the article, like the
title, which you like and so you mention. And there are parts of the
article you don’t like, and which you pretend don’t exist. And then you say
the article supports everything you’ve been saying. 

I see. 

> It’s OBSERVED that as soon as the star shreds, INSTANTLY, outgoing jets
> are formed. Why would you think anything would stay there? The material
> is shooting outwards at .9c, for fucksake. It’s not ‘bounce’. And if all
> THAT material wants to be elsewhere quickly, which part would stay?
> You’re STILL refusing to think
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#708604

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd
>"No seriously. What part of that article do you think supports your claim.
>The link is right there. Let's quote it.
>"
>The title

Since all you read was the title, you missed this part (caption under an
image):

"This illustration shows a doomed star (orange circle) that wanders so 
close to a giant black hole that the enormous gravity stretches the star 
until it is torn apart. Some of the star's mass (white stream) is 
swallowed by the black hole, while the rest is flung away into the 
surrounding galaxy. (M.Weiss/NASA/CXC)"

Some of the stuff from "shredded" stars goes out to become part of stuff
that forms new stars. The rest gets sucked in. Nothing new here.

Astronomers have been predicting this for years. The point of the article
was that they actually found evidence of it.

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#708719

MM
“This illustration”
It’s an artists conception showing something going IN.
Such has never actually been seen.
We HAVE seen HUGE JETS shooting OUT

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#708818

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> MM
> “This illustration”
> It’s an artists conception showing something going IN.
> Such has never actually been seen.
> We HAVE seen HUGE JETS shooting OUT
> 

We have evidence of black hole growth, consistent with matter falling in.
We have clear observation of stars orbiting gravitationally, with no
indication that the force is diluted by outward pressure and no indication
of a barrier. Supermassive black holes are in regions where high
concentration of mass is. 

Now I’m sure you can come up with some arcane scheme by which stars are
drawn inward but there is some impenetrable barrier that keeps them from
actually going in, by which supermassive black holes just happen to
spontaneously appear where mass concentration is high, where they grow for
no particular reason even while ejecting matter. And I’m sure your arcane
scheme will involve word croutons like “empty spin” with NO calculations of
anything, nor any description of HOW the absolute exclusion of matter
happens, but you’ll like it just fine. Because it’s yours and it’s
different and you want attention for pretending to have physics ideas. 




-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#708822

Odd
“We have evidence of black hole growth, ”

Your idea of ‘evidence’ suddenly becomes really accepting when it bolsters your story.
Somebody hand-waved...right?

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#708841

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “We have evidence of black hole growth, ”
> 
> Your idea of ‘evidence’ suddenly becomes really accepting when it bolsters your story.
> Somebody hand-waved...right?
> 

Nope. Your ignorance of observations, combined by your inclination to read
only the titles and not the content underneath, is not my problem. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#708857

Odd
“Nope. Your ignorance of observations, combined by your inclination to read 
only the titles and not the content underneath, is not my problem. ”
Gotcha. No give, only take.
No more links for you

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#708904

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “Nope. Your ignorance of observations, combined by your inclination to read 
> only the titles and not the content underneath, is not my problem. ”
> Gotcha. No give, only take.
> No more links for you
> 

How about a book?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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