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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-09-29 09:12 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-10-02 13:04 -0700 |
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Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 09:12 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 10:01 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 13:26 -0400
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 18:50 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-29 19:22 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-29 13:26 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-09-29 14:01 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 18:13 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 09:53 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 19:27 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 13:00 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 21:51 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 16:44 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-01 01:38 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 14:37 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 08:18 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 08:24 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-01 15:45 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 16:05 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 10:21 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-01 17:56 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 21:17 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-01 15:40 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 16:05 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 09:31 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 10:05 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 10:21 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 17:23 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:02 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-30 17:12 -0500
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 18:54 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 06:05 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-01 15:36 +0000
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 09:29 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 15:20 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 16:40 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 18:52 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 18:52 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 09:25 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 09:19 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-01 12:17 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-01 14:35 -0500
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-01 12:45 -0700
Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:04 -0700
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-29 09:12 -0700 |
| Subject | Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism |
| Message-ID | <c9d975cc-cff8-4f48-b368-a785fe73020f@googlegroups.com> |
All electrons give off energy. All the time. This is felt as the electric field. They don’t ‘spiral into’ the nucleus because all protons collect energy. This is felt as gravity. Electrons are constantly being re-energized by their protons. This produces magnetism.
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| From | "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-29 10:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <12ffa5ba-ee7f-4749-81e1-2e5004c82335@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #705150 |
On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 9:12:52 AM UTC-7, john wrote: > All electrons give off energy. All the time. This is felt as the electric field. They don’t ‘spiral into’ the nucleus because all protons collect energy. This is felt as gravity. Electrons are constantly being re-energized by their protons. This produces magnetism. Magnetisum and electricity are two sides to the same coin.Gravity is completly different than a magnet with its two poles .Bert
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| From | benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-29 13:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <poock1$m3d$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #705157 |
On 9/29/2018 1:01 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote: > On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 9:12:52 AM UTC-7, john wrote: >> All electrons give off energy. All the time. This is felt as the electric field. They don’t ‘spiral into’ the nucleus because all protons collect energy. This is felt as gravity. Electrons are constantly being re-energized by their protons. This produces magnetism. > > Magnetisum and electricity are two sides to the same coin.Gravity is completly different than a magnet with its two poles .Bert > Bert you senile idiot, don't you know all the "negative" gravity poles are all on the other side of universe where we can't see them? This kind of thinking will never get you those three Nobels!
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-29 18:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <poohhq$vmf$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #705150 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > All electrons give off energy. All the time. This is felt as the electric > field. They don’t ‘spiral into’ the nucleus because all protons collect > energy. This is felt as gravity. Electrons are constantly being > re-energized by their protons. This produces magnetism. > Burbliblubblibubble-boop -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-09-29 19:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <poojdq$fpo$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #705150 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: <snip word salad babble> John, I already told you, don't take the brown acid!
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-09-29 13:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0f0b84bc-815e-4e1e-b49a-92bfbe19cf1f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #705150 |
All electric particles absorb store and radiate light waves....
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-29 14:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <da2765ef-9e0f-434a-b8a0-306a52ec8cf2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #705182 |
On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 1:26:39 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > All electric particles absorb store and radiate light waves.... Do electrons absorb and radiate light waves even when they are not in an atomic orbital? What would be the implications of that? Double-A
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-29 18:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <dc93c736-e54b-419a-b959-c614fc78204c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #705184 |
AA “ Do electrons absorb and radiate light waves even when they are not in an atomic orbital? What would be the implications of that? ” Electrons give off. Protons absorb. Transfer back to electron causes magnetism. When are electrons never associated with protons? Good question
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| From | Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-30 09:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d98cc18d-11ce-453b-b200-6231f3758ce2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #705221 |
On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:13:44 PM UTC-10, john wrote: > AA > “ > Do electrons absorb and radiate light waves even when they are not in an atomic orbital? What would be the implications of that? ” > Electrons give off. > Protons absorb. > Transfer back to electron causes magnetism. > > When are electrons never associated with protons? > Good question Excellent question. "When are electrons never associated with protons?" Colliders and laboratories should study that instead of quarks. I expect that each proton is paired with one electron, except in dark matter.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-30 19:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <por83m$14ft$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #705221 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > AA > “ > Do electrons absorb and radiate light waves even when they are not in an > atomic orbital? What would be the implications of that? ” > Electrons give off. > Protons absorb. > Transfer back to electron causes magnetism. > > When are electrons never associated with protons? ? What do you think an atom is? > Good question > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-30 13:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b302b970-a316-4067-a2eb-d06c184c728f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #705351 |
Odd “..atom...” Yes, they ARE associated with a proton in the atom. ‘The electric field is caused by the discharging of the electron, which happens continually. The magnetic field is caused by the re-charging of the electron, which happens sporadically.’ (when in association with a proton.)
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-30 21:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <porgh3$1i26$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #705356 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “..atom...” > > Yes, they ARE associated with a proton in the atom. > > ‘The electric field is caused by the discharging of the electron, which > happens continually. The magnetic field is caused by the re-charging of > the electron, which happens sporadically.’ (when in association with a proton.) > You know an electron beam (no protons nearby) has a magnetic field? No, of course you don’t. Why would you know basics? -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-30 16:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bb664f3f-d535-4ff3-b998-c569683144c8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #705410 |
Odd “You know an electron beam (no protons nearby) has a magnetic fie” Where are there no protons?
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 01:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <portqb$tmf$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #705434 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >"You know an electron beam (no protons nearby) has a magnetic fie" >Where are there no protons? Ever own an old-style CRT television or computer monitor? Inside its picture tube. Inside is a vacuum with an electron beam (when operating).
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 14:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <potben$dn4$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #705434 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “You know an electron beam (no protons nearby) has a magnetic fie” > Where are there no protons? > In an electron beam, with the nearest proton a billion atomic diameters away. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 08:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c1652079-a735-4741-b9fe-b269b99e9cbb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #705558 |
Odd “In an electron beam, with the nearest proton a billion atomic diameters away. ” Yah But I’ll bet there’s an actual proton sheath surrounding it. And burnt-out bits of electron are sucked in like mad and magnetism is off the charts. The electric field is caused by radiations from electrons being emitted by electrons. Gravity is caused by radiations from electrons being absorbed by protons- it is a ‘backward’ field. Both are long range. Magnetism is caused by bits of burnt out electrons falling into the protons spin and being shot out as jets of high-energy particles. It is short range.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 08:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <99622df2-3278-44d8-97d3-80211e36abed@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #705563 |
Odd “with the nearest proton a billion atomic diameters away. ” And this is known for sure....how?
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 15:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <potfep$d17$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #705566 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >"with the nearest proton a billion atomic diameters >away. " >And this is known for sure....how? Ummm, because electron beams are produced in a vacuum? And a good vacuum has very few (ideally no) atoms in it?? And that is done because electron beams striking stray atoms produce undesired effects??
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 16:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <potgkq$ofg$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #705566 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “with the nearest proton a billion atomic diameters > away. ” > And this is known for sure....how? > Vacuum pipe, John. All the protons sucked out of it. My, you are clueless. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 10:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d0075225-c3ee-4af5-a4ca-12a81570819e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #705574 |
Odd “Vacuum pipe, John. All the protons sucked out of it. ” No protons making up the pipe? Oh!! Dark Matter!!! The pipe smokes dark Matter? Of course- your go-to answer. Very handy. How?
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