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  Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 09:12 -0700
    Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 10:01 -0700
      Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 13:26 -0400
    Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 18:50 +0000
    Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-29 19:22 +0000
    Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-29 13:26 -0700
      Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-09-29 14:01 -0700
        Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 18:13 -0700
          Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 09:53 -0700
          Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 19:27 +0000
            Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 13:00 -0700
              Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 21:51 +0000
                Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 16:44 -0700
                  Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-01 01:38 +0000
                  Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 14:37 +0000
                    Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 08:18 -0700
                      Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 08:24 -0700
                        Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-01 15:45 +0000
                        Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 16:05 +0000
                          Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 10:21 -0700
                            Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-01 17:56 +0000
                            Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 21:17 +0000
                      Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-01 15:40 +0000
                      Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 16:05 +0000
                  Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 09:31 -0700
                    Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 10:05 -0700
                      Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 10:21 -0700
                      Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 17:23 +0000
                      Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:02 -0700
              Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-30 17:12 -0500
            Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 18:54 -0700
              Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 06:05 -0700
                Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-01 15:36 +0000
          Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 09:29 -0700
        Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 15:20 -0700
          Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 16:40 -0700
            Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 18:52 -0700
        Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-30 18:52 -0700
        Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 09:25 -0700
      Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 09:19 -0700
        Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-01 12:17 -0700
          Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-01 14:35 -0500
            Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-01 12:45 -0700
          Re: Electricity, Gravity, and Magnetism Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:04 -0700

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#705617

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd
>"Vacuum pipe, John.  All the protons sucked out of it. "
>No protons making up the pipe?
>Oh!!
>Dark Matter!!!
>The pipe smokes dark Matter?
>Of course- your go-to answer. Very handy. How?

He said the protons were billions of atomic diameters away, not that the
pipe had no protons making it up. Or are you niggling about "All the
protons sucked out of it [the vacuum pipe]" when it's obvious he's talking
about the inside of the pipe, the space the pipe encloses.

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#705655

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd 
> “Vacuum pipe, John.  All the protons sucked out of it. ”
> No protons making up the pipe?

Sure there are. They’re quite occupied by the electrons in the pipe. The
pipe is made of neutral atoms. 

And of course, John, the electrons in the electron beam are a BILLION times
further away than the electrons right there in the metal, which means the
electromagnetic interactions between the pipe protons and beam electrons is
a MILLION TRILLION times smaller. Somehow the magnitude of this doesn’t
sink in. 

> Oh!!
> Dark Matter!!!
> The pipe smokes dark Matter?
> Of course- your go-to answer. Very handy. How?
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#705569

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> tarded:

>Yah
>But I'll bet there's an actual proton sheath surrounding it. 

WTF is a "proton sheath"??

Another LSD-induced hallucination?

>And burnt-out bits of electron are sucked in like mad and magnetism is off 
>the charts.

The magnetic field is easily measured and is hardly "off the charts".

>Magnetism is caused by bits of burnt out electrons falling into the protons
> spin and being shot out as jets of high-energy particles.
>It is short range.

Magnetism has infinite range, John.

You need to cut back on the trips to "Little Pharma".

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#705573

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “In an electron beam, with the nearest proton a billion atomic diameters 
> away. 
> ”
> Yah
> But I’ll bet there’s an actual proton sheath surrounding it. 

There’s a metal sheath around it, which is electrically neutral. And the
electron beam is billions of atomic diameters away, which means the
magnetic interaction between beam electrons and metal protons is down 18
orders of magnitude compared to inside the atom. 

Check out Ampere’s Law, John. It was thought out before the Civil War. 


> And burnt-out bits of electron are sucked in like mad and magnetism is off the charts.
> 
> The electric field is caused by radiations from electrons being emitted by electrons.
> Gravity is caused by radiations from electrons being absorbed by protons-
> it is a ‘backward’ field.
> Both are long range.
> Magnetism is caused by bits of burnt out electrons falling into the
> protons spin and being shot out as jets of high-energy particles.
> It is short range.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#705585

On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 7:44:42 PM UTC-4, john wrote:
> Odd
> “You know an electron beam (no protons nearby) has a magnetic fie”
> Where are there no protons?

Watch the free electrons in the next lightning storm.
Enjoy.
  Ed  8^)

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#705591

Ed
“Watch the free electrons in the next lightning storm. 
Enjoy. ”
And why might they be in a hurry?

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#705599

On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 10:05:40 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
> Ed
> “Watch the free electrons in the next lightning storm. 
> Enjoy. ”
> And why might they be in a hurry?

Photons are the building blocks of electrons.Magnetic field is created by photons QED comes to mind.Bert PS Photons go at c because the electron spins at c.Coming and going its at c.Going through a medium it does not slow down.No ever Bert

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#705601

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ed
> “Watch the free electrons in the next lightning storm. 
> Enjoy. ”
> And why might they be in a hurry?
> 

Large potential difference between cloud and ground. Caused by air
friction, just like socks coming out of the dryer. 

My, you are uninformed of the basics. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#705881

On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 1:05:40 PM UTC-4, john wrote:
> Ed
> “Watch the free electrons in the next lightning storm. 
> Enjoy. ”
> And why might they be in a hurry?

They are late for the bus.

Ed
(ask a silly question, get a silly answer)

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#705416

On 9/30/2018 3:00 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> “..atom...”
> 
> Yes, they ARE associated with a proton in the atom.
> 
> ‘The electric field is caused by the discharging of the electron, which happens continually. The magnetic field is caused by the re-charging of the electron, which happens sporadically.’ (when in association with a proton.)
> 

discharging electrons causes collapse of electric field.

magnetic fields are caused by moving electrons.

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#705456

On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 10:28:02 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> > AA
> > “
> > Do electrons absorb and radiate light waves even when they are not in an
> > atomic orbital?  What would be the implications of that? ”
> > Electrons give off.
> > Protons absorb.
> > Transfer back to electron causes magnetism.
> > 
> > When are electrons never associated with protons?
> 
> ? What do you think an atom is?
> 
> 
> > Good question
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
===========================
an Atom is 
first of all 

MASS ....

00
Y.P
=====================

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#705546

The electric field is electrons radiating.
The gravitational field is protons absorbing.
The magnetic field is protons recycling electron material.

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#705568

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>The electric field is electrons radiating.
>The gravitational field is protons absorbing.
>The magnetic field is protons recycling electron material.

Do you really think that's how science works? Throw some of your shit 
against the wall and see if any of it sticks??

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#705584

On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 9:13:44 PM UTC-4, john wrote:
> AA
> “
> Do electrons absorb and radiate light waves even when they are not in an atomic orbital?  What would be the implications of that? ”
> Electrons give off.
> Protons absorb.
> Transfer back to electron causes magnetism.
> 
> When are electrons never associated with protons?
> Good question

Free electrons are all around. Without them you would not have
x-ray tubes to perform your CT scan. (And I'd be out of a job 8^)
But x-ray tubes do work. So I should be safe for now.

Without free electrons, there would not be lightning.

Feel free to contribute other examples.
  Ed

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#705419

On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 2:01:34 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 1:26:39 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > All electric particles absorb store and radiate light waves....
> 
> 
> Do electrons absorb and radiate light waves even when they are not in an atomic orbital?  What would be the implications of that?
> 
> Double-A

I believe most particles belong only in the atom itself...
Science believes somethings I don't.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#705432

On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 3:20:47 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Science believes somethings I don't.

An understatement if I ever heard one! 

There are too many scientific principles that you don't agree with to count...

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#705455

On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 4:40:09 PM UTC-7, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 3:20:47 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Science believes somethings I don't.
> 
> An understatement if I ever heard one! 
> 
> There are too many scientific principles that you don't agree with to count...

Einstein believed in his aether of which he lectured in 1920's.
Science isn't honest...
Einstein went away from his Photon for a spherical wavelet.
Science doesn't talk.
Einstein never believed in quantum mechanics.
The world of his judges don't believe in
order by God like he did...
Einstein was right. The world of science had
to judge him and he said it on his deathbed 
that the atheists were his enemy but he didn't
recognize it till then.

The one thing he held most to was something the
world held him to the most... the world of science
was wrong...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#705454

On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 12:01:34 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 1:26:39 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > All electric particles absorb store and radiate light waves....
> 
> 
> Do electrons absorb and radiate light waves even when they are not in an atomic orbital?  What would be the implications of that?
> 
> Double-A
========================
it is all done by    mass 
--
Y.P
================

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#705583

On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 5:01:34 PM UTC-4, Double-A wrote:
> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 1:26:39 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > All electric particles absorb store and radiate light waves....
> 
> 
> Do electrons absorb and radiate light waves even when they are not in an atomic orbital?  What would be the implications of that?
> 
> Double-A

Changes in the motion of the electron.
Consider the particle aspect of photons.
Photons and electrons collide following the same laws of
physics as other collisions:
Energy is conserved and momentum is conserved.
A photon has momentum with magnitude given by p=h/{lambda}
lambda is the wavelength.
Of course there is a direction associated with the photon's
momentum.
Similarly the electron has momentum p=mv
where m = mass of the electron and v = the velocity
(including the direction).

From there it is just vector mathematics.

Enjoy.
  Ed

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#705578

On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 4:26:39 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> All electric particles absorb store and radiate light waves....


Congratulations! you somehow managed to blurt out a
reasonably correct statement.
Ed

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