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Fractal radiations

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2018-09-15 14:55 -0700
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  Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 14:55 -0700
    Re: Fractal radiations Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-15 21:57 +0000
      Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 15:23 -0700
    Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-16 01:40 +0000
      Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 06:28 -0700
        Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-16 15:24 +0000
    Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 02:33 +0000
      Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 05:59 -0700
        Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 13:14 +0000
          Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 07:50 -0700
            Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-16 15:31 +0000
              Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 09:09 -0700
            Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 19:23 +0000
              Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 12:29 -0700
                Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 19:35 +0000
                  Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 05:47 -0700
                    Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 12:59 +0000
                      Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 06:16 -0700
                        Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 16:43 +0000
                        Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-17 16:50 +0000
                          Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 11:34 -0700
                            Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 18:38 +0000
                              Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 12:05 -0700
                                Re: Fractal radiations Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-17 14:17 -0500
                                  Re: Fractal radiations benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 15:53 -0400
                                    Re: Fractal radiations Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-17 18:01 -0500
                                      Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 16:03 -0700
                                        Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 16:08 -0700
                                          Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 23:22 +0000
                                            Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 18:59 -0700
                                              Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 02:40 +0000
                                                Re: Fractal radiations Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-18 11:29 -0500
                                                  Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 09:44 -0700
                                                    Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-18 14:08 -0700
                                                      Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-18 14:10 -0700
                                                  Re: Fractal radiations benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 18:08 -0400
                                              Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-18 17:18 +0000
                                                Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 10:22 -0700
                                                  Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-18 18:03 +0000
                                                    Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 11:57 -0700
                                                      Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-18 19:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 13:12 -0700
                                        Re: Fractal radiations Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-17 18:09 -0500
                                Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 21:24 +0000
                                  Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-17 15:07 -0700
                                    Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 22:16 +0000
                                      Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-17 15:22 -0700
                                        Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 15:27 -0700
                                          Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 23:16 +0000
                                        Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 22:27 +0000
                                          Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-17 15:38 -0700
                                            Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-17 21:28 -0700
                                              Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-18 14:11 -0700
                                                Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 14:28 -0700
                                                  Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-18 15:54 -0700
                            Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 02:42 +0000
                              Re: Fractal radiations Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-17 22:42 -0500
                                Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 05:47 -0700
                                  Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 12:49 +0000
                                    Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 13:06 +0000
                                      Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 06:23 -0700
                                        Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 14:30 +0000
                                          Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 08:14 -0700
                                            Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 16:22 +0000
                                          Re: Fractal radiations benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 18:24 -0400
                                  Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-18 17:17 +0000
                                  Re: Fractal radiations pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-09-18 21:06 -0700
                                    Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 06:58 -0700
                                    Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 08:50 -0700
                                      Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 17:12 +0000
                                        Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 12:46 -0700
                                          Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 22:22 +0000
                                            Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 16:14 -0700
                                              Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-19 23:40 +0000
                                                Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 17:25 -0700
                                                  Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 00:43 +0000
                                                    Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 18:41 -0700
                                                      Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 14:35 +0000
                                                        Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 14:48 +0000
                                                          Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 08:05 -0700
                                                            Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 08:24 -0700
                                                              Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 22:14 +0000
                                                                Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 17:10 -0700
                                                                  Re: Fractal radiations pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-09-20 17:55 -0700
                                                                    Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 18:09 -0700
                                                                      Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 03:33 +0000
                                                      Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-20 15:42 +0000
                                                        Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 09:09 -0700
                                                          Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-20 16:59 +0000
                                                            Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 06:19 -0700
                                                              Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 14:55 +0000
                                                                Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 08:23 -0700
                                                                  Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 16:09 +0000
                                              Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 00:43 +0000
                    Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-17 16:47 +0000
    Re: Fractal radiations Mutt Buncher <invalid@example.com> - 2018-09-19 08:07 -0700
      Re: Fractal radiations benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 12:26 -0400
    Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-19 23:54 -0700
    Re: Fractal radiations "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 09:34 -0700

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#703649

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-20 08:24 -0700
Message-ID<afcf988b-d0e5-4563-ba35-fa9d53b1d529@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#703646
Odd
Gee, Odd, there is a ton of evidence that ‘really old’ cultures moved huge stones and had aircraft.
“Alchemy has played a significant role in the development of modern chemistry, medicine and psychology. ... “

Newton would laugh your ‘point particles ‘ off the face of this earth. 
Bus!! Odd!!
You’re lucky bus drivers are smarter than you.

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#703696

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-20 22:14 +0000
Message-ID<po164a$ugh$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#703649
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> Gee, Odd, there is a ton of evidence that ‘really old’ cultures moved
> huge stones and had aircraft.
> “Alchemy has played a significant role in the development of modern
> chemistry, medicine and psychology. ... “

So you ARE a fan of alchemy. No surprise. What a flake. 

> 
> Newton would laugh your ‘point particles ‘ off the face of this earth. 

You think? Check out his light corpuscles. Don’t be so quick to say that
most people think the way you do. 

> Bus!! Odd!!
> You’re lucky bus drivers are smarter than you.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#703717

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-20 17:10 -0700
Message-ID<6a255bc6-59e1-460d-b845-3a0ee9be2b95@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#703696
Odd
“1. Light consists of very tiny particles known as “ corpuscular”. 2. These corpuscles on emission from the source of light travel in straight line with  ...”

Very tiny, Odd, does not mean dimensionless.

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#703724

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2018-09-20 17:55 -0700
Message-ID<2944a053-6467-43ca-adfe-80dddcc16c75@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#703717
On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 5:10:05 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
> Odd
> “1. Light consists of very tiny particles known as “ corpuscular”. 2. These corpuscles on emission from the source of light travel in straight line with  ...”
> 
> Very tiny, Odd, does not mean dimensionless.

OK, John, so just how tiny are these corpuscles? 

You shouldn't have any problem at all answering this question, you just need to stay in character and simply create an answer, as is your usual and customary method.

Unfortunately, the corpuscular theory of light has been shown to be wrong a very long time ago...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpuscular_theory_of_light

"... This theory cannot explain refraction, diffraction, interference and polarization..."

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#703727

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-20 18:09 -0700
Message-ID<8868c919-d370-4af5-ad7f-f5b64fe1ffc1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#703724
pnal
“..how tiny...?”
WTF cares? Not points, anyway. He was smarter than that.

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#703750

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-21 03:33 +0000
Message-ID<po1opr$1m04$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#703727
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> pnal
> “..how tiny...?”
> WTF cares? Not points, anyway. He was smarter than that.
> 

What makes you think he thinks like you?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#703650

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-20 15:42 +0000
Message-ID<po0f4h$1mq$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#703579
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Hermes
>From the Emerald Tablet
>Second line:
>"That which is below is like that which is above & that which is above 
>is like that which is below to do the miracles of one only thing"

>Sure sounds like galaxies are atoms to me.

Sure doesn't sound like galaxies are atoms to me.

It's a bizarre work translated from Arabic that has more to do with 
alchemy, the philosopher's stone, Tarot cards than galaxies or atoms.
To be fair, it does mention the Sun and Moon, which are the 'father' and
'mother' of the "one thing" whose "miracles" include the above/below stuff.
But that's as close to 'galaxies' as it gets.

So you believe emerald tablets supposedly held by a corpse seated on a 
golden throne in a vault below a statue is a good basis for science, huh?
At least that part could be part of a good Indiana Jones plot.

>(This is Isaac Newton's translation.)

Sometimes the line between genius and madness gets a bit blurry. I don't
know if this was the case here.

>Nothing about plancks or quantum foam! :/

Nor atoms, nor galaxies.

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#703653

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-20 09:09 -0700
Message-ID<7a0d488c-979f-4ead-8d8d-eb09eb63e78d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#703650
MM
“Nor atoms, nor galaxies. ”
Galaxies aren’t in the sky- above?
Atoms aren’t fundamental building blocks- below?

Spin isn’t spin, either, in your ‘science’.
Newton would laugh you guys off the face of the earth

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#703766

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-20 16:59 +0000
Message-ID<po0jmb$5jd$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#703653
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"Nor atoms, nor galaxies. "
>Galaxies aren't in the sky- above?
>Atoms aren't fundamental building blocks- below?

There is no reason to believe that mysticism has anything to do with atoms
nor galaxies.  "to do the miracles of one only thing". It is mysticism
including how all things arose from this "one thing" whose father is the
sun and mother the moon.

You need to come up with something (much!) better than Newton's interest
in mysticism and alchemy.

>Spin isn't spin, either, in your "science".

Do try to keep up, especially with QM "spin".  Do you also think quarks
come in actual "colors" and you can taste their "flavors"? Why not
whine that "up" is not a "flavor"!

>Newton would laugh you guys off the face of the earth

I would think he would be impressed how science has progressed since his
time.

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#703818

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-21 06:19 -0700
Message-ID<e709923a-b9a1-4546-aca2-c0a2ff0f5755@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#703766
MM
“Do you also think quarks 
come in actual "colors" and you can taste their "flavors"? Why not 
whine that "up" is not a "flavor"! ”

So....me using the word ‘fractal’ bothers you and Odd...........why? Hypocrite!

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#703824

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-21 14:55 +0000
Message-ID<po30p9$1r8p$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#703818
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> MM
> “Do you also think quarks 
> come in actual "colors" and you can taste their "flavors"? Why not 
> whine that "up" is not a "flavor"! ”
> 
> So....me using the word ‘fractal’ bothers you and Odd...........why? Hypocrite!
> 

John, you are attempting to talk physics in a physics group. You try and
fail to use physics lingo because you never learned any of it and this is
somehow somebody else’s fault. Why not just own up to being out of your
depth? You think this is owed to you?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#703827

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-21 08:23 -0700
Message-ID<e47a0004-c991-4c84-8c12-68d4b8fadd90@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#703824
Odd
“John, you are attempting to talk physics in a physics group. You try and 
fail to use physi”
You’re just a jerk

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#703840

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-21 16:09 +0000
Message-ID<po354k$411$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#703827
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “John, you are attempting to talk physics in a physics group. You try and 
> fail to use physi”
> You’re just a jerk
> 

I don’t think it’s kind to indulge in someone’s pretenses. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#703572

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-20 00:43 +0000
Message-ID<pnuqfe$ul5$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#703557
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “that IS the picture of what the electron is doing. ”
> So why, pray tell, does attophysics find that the electron has a period?
> 

Because you read captions rather than articles. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#703134

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-17 16:47 +0000
Message-ID<pnolql$mf1$4@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#703113
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Okay then what do we call it when galaxies are composed of atoms and atoms
>are identical to galaxies?

I call it a lie. Or a fantasy. Or a hallucination. Depends on the 
circumstances.

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#703505

FromMutt Buncher <invalid@example.com>
Date2018-09-19 08:07 -0700
Message-ID<pntomg$14j1$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#702875
1) Google-poster.

2) gmail address.

3) Idiot.


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#703519

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-19 12:26 -0400
Message-ID<pnttat$1dnc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#703505
On 9/19/2018 11:07 AM, Mutt Buncher wrote:
> 1) Google-poster.
> 
> 2) gmail address.
> 
> 3) Idiot.

You forgot ultimate proof of left-wing insanity:

1. Google-poster
2. gmail address
3. Google has not censored his accounts yet.



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#703622

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-09-19 23:54 -0700
Message-ID<pnvg7q$udc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#702875
On 9/15/2018 2:55 PM, john wrote:
> In the Galaxy Model for the Atom, electrons emit the next-gauge emr; the Fractal photons and Fractal neutrinos. The Fractal photons create the electric field, while the Fractal neutrinos create the gravitational field.
> 

Fractally switching atoms?

https://youtu.be/nrOABous3gc

A crude zoom on any single circle:

https://youtu.be/Qznflp5Tfl4

;^)

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#703655

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-20 09:34 -0700
Message-ID<09e638f3-b7b3-4aa7-be63-fbe0de5656d2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702875
On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 2:55:38 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
> In the Galaxy Model for the Atom, electrons emit the next-gauge emr; the Fractal photons and Fractal neutrinos. The Fractal photons create the electric field, while the Fractal neutrinos create the gravitational field.

Neutrinos creating the force of gravity hard to believe.Being part of the force is OK since all that is is.Bert

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