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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-09-15 14:55 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-09-20 09:34 -0700 |
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Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 14:55 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-15 21:57 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 15:23 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-16 01:40 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 06:28 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-16 15:24 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 02:33 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 05:59 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 13:14 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 07:50 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-16 15:31 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 09:09 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 19:23 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 12:29 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-16 19:35 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 05:47 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 12:59 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 06:16 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 16:43 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-17 16:50 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 11:34 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 18:38 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 12:05 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-17 14:17 -0500
Re: Fractal radiations benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 15:53 -0400
Re: Fractal radiations Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-17 18:01 -0500
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 16:03 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 16:08 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 23:22 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 18:59 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 02:40 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-18 11:29 -0500
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 09:44 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-18 14:08 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-18 14:10 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 18:08 -0400
Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-18 17:18 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 10:22 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-18 18:03 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 11:57 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-18 19:17 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 13:12 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-17 18:09 -0500
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 21:24 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-17 15:07 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 22:16 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-17 15:22 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 15:27 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 23:16 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 22:27 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-17 15:38 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-17 21:28 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-18 14:11 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 14:28 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-18 15:54 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 02:42 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-17 22:42 -0500
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 05:47 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 12:49 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 13:06 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 06:23 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 14:30 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 08:14 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 16:22 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 18:24 -0400
Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-18 17:17 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-09-18 21:06 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 06:58 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 08:50 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 17:12 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 12:46 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 22:22 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 16:14 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-19 23:40 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 17:25 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 00:43 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 18:41 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 14:35 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 14:48 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 08:05 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 08:24 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 22:14 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 17:10 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-09-20 17:55 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 18:09 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 03:33 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-20 15:42 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 09:09 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-20 16:59 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 06:19 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 14:55 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 08:23 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 16:09 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 00:43 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-17 16:47 +0000
Re: Fractal radiations Mutt Buncher <invalid@example.com> - 2018-09-19 08:07 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 12:26 -0400
Re: Fractal radiations "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-19 23:54 -0700
Re: Fractal radiations "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 09:34 -0700
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-17 11:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a641b35b-7673-481c-b75d-c9b0a1e81703@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #703138 |
MM “Well you did say (and emphasize) "at ANY magnification", but even for you it only works at one scale, 1:10^31, so we can eliminate that definition. ” Not at ALL magnifications, dummy. The middle of the fern leaf looks nothing like the edge.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-17 18:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pnosa8$186u$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #703160 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > MM > “Well you did say (and emphasize) "at ANY magnification", but even for you > it only works at one scale, 1:10^31, so we can eliminate that definition. ” > > Not at ALL magnifications, dummy. > The middle of the fern leaf looks nothing like the edge. > Magnify the edge of the fern leaf, dummy. The fractal is the fern leaf EDGE. This means looking at the fern leaf EDGE at any scale, dummy. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-17 12:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4a254657-2ce0-40ae-85b8-27cd20e56f97@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #703161 |
Odd “Magnify the edge of the fern leaf, dummy. The fractal is the fern leaf EDGE. This means looking at the fern leaf EDGE at any scale, dummy. ” Well, it’s the ENTIRE ATOM that is identical to the ENTIRE GALAXY, fool. What is your problem?
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-17 14:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pnouku$1ccn$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #703173 |
On 9/17/2018 2:05 PM, john wrote:
> Odd
> “Magnify the edge of the fern leaf, dummy. The fractal is the fern leaf
> EDGE. This means looking at the fern leaf EDGE at any scale, dummy. ”
> Well, it’s the ENTIRE ATOM that is identical to the ENTIRE GALAXY, fool. What is your problem?
>
how can that be?
which atom is identical to which galaxy ?
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| From | benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-17 15:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pnp0od$1g1u$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #703178 |
On 9/17/2018 3:17 PM, Sergio wrote: > On 9/17/2018 2:05 PM, john wrote: >> Odd >> “Magnify the edge of the fern leaf, dummy. The fractal is the fern leaf >> EDGE. This means looking at the fern leaf EDGE at any scale, dummy. ” >> Well, it’s the ENTIRE ATOM that is identical to the ENTIRE GALAXY, fool. What is your problem? >> > > how can that be? > > which atom is identical to which galaxy ? > Not sure which one but Archie assures us all according to his theory that the ENTIRE Universe is noting but one atom!
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-17 18:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pnpbod$2b7$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #703198 |
On 9/17/2018 2:53 PM, benj wrote: > On 9/17/2018 3:17 PM, Sergio wrote: >> On 9/17/2018 2:05 PM, john wrote: >>> Odd >>> “Magnify the edge of the fern leaf, dummy. The fractal is the fern leaf >>> EDGE. This means looking at the fern leaf EDGE at any scale, dummy. ” >>> Well, it’s the ENTIRE ATOM that is identical to the ENTIRE GALAXY, >>> fool. What is your problem? >>> >> >> how can that be? >> >> which atom is identical to which galaxy ? >> > Not sure which one but Archie assures us all according to his theory > that the ENTIRE Universe is noting but one atom! isn't AP still looking for his marbles ?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-17 16:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <02a7dc5e-11d9-4125-b21d-eff0a759e24b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #703231 |
Galaxies are made from atoms
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-17 16:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2457be9d-0fd5-4eca-a73b-b4e1d113da7a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #703235 |
Galaxies are made from self-similar things called atoms.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-17 23:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pnpcvr$4a4$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #703237 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Galaxies are made from self-similar things called atoms. > At ANY scale? -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-17 18:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b52f5684-e8fb-4e6c-942d-c345830e5072@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #703244 |
Odd “ At ANY scale? “ Every atom of a galaxy is similar to the galaxy. Every atom, Odd! Even yours
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-18 02:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pnpojr$jgo$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #703259 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “ > At ANY scale? > “ > Every atom of a galaxy is similar to the galaxy. > Every atom, Odd! > Even yours > Seem to be missing the point, John. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-18 11:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pnr94i$14b6$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #703262 |
On 9/17/2018 9:40 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >> Odd >> “ >> At ANY scale? >> “ >> Every atom of a galaxy is similar to the galaxy. >> Every atom, Odd! >> Even yours >> > > Seem to be missing the point, John. > If you take a pencil, put a dot on a paper, then draw loose circles around it many times.... Now ask yourself, is it a galaxy? or is it an atom ? or is it both ?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-18 09:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1d747f58-a8e0-47de-a196-ef5120a95bf5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #703353 |
Sergio “ If you take a pencil, put a dot on a paper, then draw loose circles around it many times.... ” You get this: https://www.facebook.com/1rotation2precessions/photos/a.478432785836666/734715553541720/?type=3
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-18 14:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pnrpgi$huc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #703355 |
On 9/18/2018 9:44 AM, john wrote: > Sergio > “ > If you take a pencil, put a dot on a paper, then draw loose circles > around it many times.... > ” > You get this: > https://www.facebook.com/1rotation2precessions/photos/a.478432785836666/734715553541720/?type=3 > Fwiw, wrt pictures, well fractals can be used to generate some very interesting results. For instance, the following rendering kind of looks like a damn Hubble image of a nebula: http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17379 ;^)
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-18 14:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pnrpkn$huc$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #703399 |
On 9/18/2018 2:08 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 9/18/2018 9:44 AM, john wrote: >> Sergio >> “ >> If you take a pencil, put a dot on a paper, then draw loose circles >> around it many times.... >> ” >> You get this: >> >> https://www.facebook.com/1rotation2precessions/photos/a.478432785836666/734715553541720/?type=3 >> >> > > Fwiw, wrt pictures, well fractals can be used to generate some very > interesting results. For instance, the following rendering kind of looks > like a damn Hubble image of a nebula: > > http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=17379 > Fwiw, this is an experimental combination of mine involving a little Buddhabrot mixed with a Reverse Julia iteration. I have my C++ source code that generates it, never released it yet.
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| From | benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-18 18:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pnrt12$7e6$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #703353 |
On 9/18/2018 12:29 PM, Sergio wrote: > On 9/17/2018 9:40 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Odd >>> “ >>> At ANY scale? >>> “ >>> Every atom of a galaxy is similar to the galaxy. >>> Every atom, Odd! >>> Even yours >>> >> >> Seem to be missing the point, John. >> > > If you take a pencil, put a dot on a paper, then draw loose circles > around it many times.... > > Now ask yourself, is it a galaxy? or is it an atom ? > > or is it both ? > > It's everything! It's an electron, it's a proton, it's an atom, it's a yo yo, it's a solar system, it's a galaxy, it's the universe! It's anything you can imagine. This is Odd's fractal universe and ARchie's the universe is an atom theory. I smell Nobel!
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-09-18 17:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pnrc1p$b6l$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #703259 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Every atom of a galaxy is similar to the galaxy. >Every atom, Odd! >Even yours Except that is not true at all.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-18 10:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ac889344-7acb-4fa7-94f8-a3c4e8cb2c9e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #703358 |
MM “Except that is not true at all. ” You have no idea what is true. Black Holes are not true- singularity is math. Point particles is not true- singularity is math. Suck Gravity is not true- no little ropes ever found.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-09-18 18:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pnreko$eio$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #703359 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >"Except that is not true at all. " >You have no idea what is true. And you do???? How, did God whisper it in your ear?? >Black Holes are not true- singularity is math. At least the explanation makes more sense than "nothing" spinning. In fact it's a problem even trying to write your dumb claim - 'nothing spinning' sounds like that things don't spin at all, not a big bunch of 0 is spinning. Dumb! In order to have motion, you need something to move!! >Point particles is not true- singularity is math. Again, you know this just how? Where is the singularity? (size of 0 by itself is not a mathematical singularity) >Suck Gravity is not true- no little ropes ever found. You really think gravity would have to involve little ropes? What about push forces, no little push rods have been found, either! Could you explain both attraction and repulsion of electric charges with each other? Do charges need ropes, too?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-18 11:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8aa5bb23-3553-428d-8cc1-456d7322b277@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #703369 |
MM “Do charges need ropes, to” I’ve explained gravity to you lots- can’t remember?
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