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The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics

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  The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 00:27 -0700
    Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-10 04:00 -0700
      Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 09:05 -0700
        Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 17:12 +0000
          Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 10:25 -0700
            Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 17:32 +0000
              Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 11:39 -0700
                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 19:13 +0000
                  Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-10 14:22 -0500
                  Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 13:15 -0700
                    Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 21:07 +0000
                      Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 18:06 -0700
                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 21:07 +0000
                  Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 18:26 -0700
                    Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 02:38 +0000
                      Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 02:06 -0700
                        Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 11:58 +0000
                          Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 07:07 -0700
                            Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 07:54 -0700
                              Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 17:30 +0000
                            Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 17:30 +0000
                              Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 14:03 -0700
                                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 21:35 +0000
                                  Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 16:39 -0700
                                    Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 00:35 +0000
                                      Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 19:12 -0700
                                        Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 02:14 +0000
                                          Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 19:38 -0700
                                            Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-12 04:31 +0000
                                            Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 11:02 +0000
                                              Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 06:53 -0700
                                                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 14:47 +0000
                                                  Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 08:22 -0700
                                                    Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 16:19 +0000
                                                      Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 09:48 -0700
                                                        Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 17:43 +0000
                                                          Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 11:07 -0700
                                                            Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 19:18 +0000
                                                              Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 12:34 -0700
                                                                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-12 19:50 +0000
                                                                  Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 12:58 -0700
                                                                    Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-12 20:56 +0000
                                                                      Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 14:04 -0700
                                                                        Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 14:26 -0700
                                                                          Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-13 02:13 +0000
                                                                      Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 15:29 -0700
                                                                        Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-13 02:42 +0000
                                                                          Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 01:26 -0700
                                                                            Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Michael Moroney <moroney@TheWorld.com> - 2018-09-13 13:08 +0000
                                                                              Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 06:36 -0700
                                                                                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 07:33 -0700
                                                                                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-13 15:30 +0000
                                                                                  Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 09:18 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-13 17:26 +0000
                                                                                      Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 10:38 -0700
                                                                  Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 13:32 -0700
                                                                    Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 21:21 +0000
                                                                      Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 14:31 -0700
                                                                        Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 01:16 +0000
                                                                          Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 18:22 -0700
                                                                            Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 02:16 +0000
                                                                              Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 01:30 -0700
                                                                                Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 12:29 +0000
                                    Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-12 19:40 +0000
          Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 02:25 -0700
        Re: The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 02:21 -0700

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#701921 — The Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 00:27 -0700
SubjectThe Cycloid-Parabola Wave, to replace all sine and cosine waves of physics
Message-ID<f933bb87-a129-43df-acd1-d5f534e20780@googlegroups.com>
Newsgroups: sci.math
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 23:13:39 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Cycloid Remake wave to replace sine and cosine Re: Comparing
 AP-polynomial versus Graph-polynomial
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:13:39 +0000

Cycloid Remake wave to replace sine and cosine Re: Comparing AP-polynomial versus Graph-polynomial

Now an interesting function in New Math that looks somewhat similar to what Old Math sine and cosine looked like, with their up and down pattern 

v^v^v^ only with curved arcs 

We can admit that the Cycloid is a semiellipse from 0 to 3.14 and further semiellipses along the x axis 

But, what say you when at x= 1.57 we invert the semiellipse to its U shape 

So we have a quarter ellipse from 0 to 1.57, then at 1.57 it is the inverted ellipse the 1/x type of shape to that of x=3.14 

So here the Cycloid can be said to look like water waves on the beach. 

You see, the trouble with semicircle waves or sinusoid waves, is that Nature has none of those. Water waves are actually cycloid waves as a recent Scientific American article describes them-- August 2018, page 66. 

Now, I am going to need three points for the uptick of the cycloid from 0 to 1.57, then three more points for the downtick of the inverted cycloid from 1.57 to 3.14, then I apply my AP method for the Polynomial function, done in a mere few seconds. 

Now, physics wise, this shape of wave makes a lot of sense in that the highpoint, the maximum (1.57, 1) that the energy is all out of the wave and it comes crashing down in a parabola shaped half U. 

Now light waves are supposed to be Transverse waves of this up and down (Old Math's sine) but instead of sinusoid, what say you that the wave is this Cycloid Remake wave. 

AP 

Newsgroups: sci.math
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 00:00:20 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: Cycloid Remake wave to replace sine and cosine Re: Comparing
 AP-polynomial versus Graph-polynomial
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 07:00:22 +0000

Re: Cycloid-Parabola Wave to replace sine and cosine Re: Comparing AP-polynomial versus Graph-polynomial

On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 2:17:58 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
- show quoted text -
(x-h)^2/ a^2 + (y-k)^2/ b^2 = 1   with center at (h,k) 

a is x-axis radius, b is y-axis radius 

a= 1.57 
b= 1 
(h,k) (1.57, 0) 

plugging in we have 

(x - 1.57)^2 / 1.57^2 + (y-0)^2 / 1^2 = 1 
(x^2 -3.14x + 2.464) / 2.464 + y^2 = 1 

.40x^2 -1.27x + 1 + y^2 = 1 

Note : Now I like the above, for remember a true legitimate equation in mathematics must never be 0 on one side of the equation. So, if you are ever having problems, then just add 1 to both sides. 

So, say we picked x= 0 we have for y = 0 
For x= 1 we have .40 -1.27 = -.87     y =.87 
For x=2  we have 1.6 - 2.54 = - .94   y = .94 

So here I can now do a Polynomial over the Cycloid Remake Wave (will give it a nice name later such as Cycloid-Parabola wave provided a parabola not a hyperbola is involved, for I have to see if the parabola is inverse to ellipse) 

So now I have six coordinate points to graph a Cycloid Remake wave 

uptick wave 
(0,0) (1, .87) (1.57, 1) 

and the downswing or downtick portion taking the complement of .94 to be .06

(1.57, 1) (2, .06) (3.14, 0) 

Now I do not feel like doing this for the Generator method of 4graph points, not at the moment. I feel only up to doing the seconds fast speed AP Polynomial 

Will do this tomorrow-- 

AP 

Newsgroups: sci.math
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 00:11:06 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Cycloid-parabola wave to replace sine and cosine Re: Comparing
 AP-polynomial versus Graph-polynomial
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 07:11:07 +0000

Cycloid-parabola wave to replace sine and cosine Re: Comparing AP-polynomial versus Graph-polynomial

Alright, using some algebra we can see the parabola is an ellipse with one focal point. 

So i name my new wave function that is a replacement for both sine and cosine as the Cycloid-Parabola Wave. In science it should replace all waves of physics that sine and cosine had occupied. 

AP 

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#701926

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-09-10 04:00 -0700
Message-ID<b0a8c5b6-3538-4996-a65a-956a036ed3d2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#701921
On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:27:51 AM UTC+3, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Newsgroups: sci.math
> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 23:13:39 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> Subject: Cycloid Remake wave to replace sine and cosine Re: Comparing
>  AP-polynomial versus Graph-polynomial
> From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
> Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 06:13:39 +0000
> 
> Cycloid Remake wave to replace sine and cosine Re: Comparing AP-polynomial versus Graph-polynomial
> 
> Now an interesting function in New Math that looks somewhat similar to what Old Math sine and cosine looked like, with their up and down pattern 
> 
> v^v^v^ only with curved arcs 
> 
> We can admit that the Cycloid is a semiellipse from 0 to 3.14 and further semiellipses along the x axis 
> 
> But, what say you when at x= 1.57 we invert the semiellipse to its U shape 
> 
> So we have a quarter ellipse from 0 to 1.57, then at 1.57 it is the inverted ellipse the 1/x type of shape to that of x=3.14 
> 
> So here the Cycloid can be said to look like water waves on the beach. 
> 
> You see, the trouble with semicircle waves or sinusoid waves, is that Nature has none of those. Water waves are actually cycloid waves as a recent Scientific American article describes them-- August 2018, page 66. 
> 
> Now, I am going to need three points for the uptick of the cycloid from 0 to 1.57, then three more points for the downtick of the inverted cycloid from 1.57 to 3.14, then I apply my AP method for the Polynomial function, done in a mere few seconds. 
> 
> Now, physics wise, this shape of wave makes a lot of sense in that the highpoint, the maximum (1.57, 1) that the energy is all out of the wave and it comes crashing down in a parabola shaped half U. 
> 
> Now light waves are supposed to be Transverse waves of this up and down (Old Math's sine) but instead of sinusoid, what say you that the wave is this Cycloid Remake wave. 
> 
> AP 
> 
> Newsgroups: sci.math
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 00:00:20 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> Subject: Re: Cycloid Remake wave to replace sine and cosine Re: Comparing
>  AP-polynomial versus Graph-polynomial
> From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
> Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 07:00:22 +0000
> 
> Re: Cycloid-Parabola Wave to replace sine and cosine Re: Comparing AP-polynomial versus Graph-polynomial
> 
> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 2:17:58 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> - show quoted text -
> (x-h)^2/ a^2 + (y-k)^2/ b^2 = 1   with center at (h,k) 
> 
> a is x-axis radius, b is y-axis radius 
> 
> a= 1.57 
> b= 1 
> (h,k) (1.57, 0) 
> 
> plugging in we have 
> 
> (x - 1.57)^2 / 1.57^2 + (y-0)^2 / 1^2 = 1 
> (x^2 -3.14x + 2.464) / 2.464 + y^2 = 1 
> 
> .40x^2 -1.27x + 1 + y^2 = 1 
> 
> Note : Now I like the above, for remember a true legitimate equation in mathematics must never be 0 on one side of the equation. So, if you are ever having problems, then just add 1 to both sides. 
> 
> So, say we picked x= 0 we have for y = 0 
> For x= 1 we have .40 -1.27 = -.87     y =.87 
> For x=2  we have 1.6 - 2.54 = - .94   y = .94 
> 
> So here I can now do a Polynomial over the Cycloid Remake Wave (will give it a nice name later such as Cycloid-Parabola wave provided a parabola not a hyperbola is involved, for I have to see if the parabola is inverse to ellipse) 
> 
> So now I have six coordinate points to graph a Cycloid Remake wave 
> 
> uptick wave 
> (0,0) (1, .87) (1.57, 1) 
> 
> and the downswing or downtick portion taking the complement of .94 to be .06
> 
> (1.57, 1) (2, .06) (3.14, 0) 
> 
> Now I do not feel like doing this for the Generator method of 4graph points, not at the moment. I feel only up to doing the seconds fast speed AP Polynomial 
> 
> Will do this tomorrow-- 
> 
> AP 
> 
> Newsgroups: sci.math
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 00:11:06 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> Subject: Cycloid-parabola wave to replace sine and cosine Re: Comparing
>  AP-polynomial versus Graph-polynomial
> From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
> Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 07:11:07 +0000
> 
> Cycloid-parabola wave to replace sine and cosine Re: Comparing AP-polynomial versus Graph-polynomial
> 
> Alright, using some algebra we can see the parabola is an ellipse with one focal point. 
> 
> So i name my new wave function that is a replacement for both sine and cosine as the Cycloid-Parabola Wave. In science it should replace all waves of physics that sine and cosine had occupied. 
> 
> AP
===================================
much   simpler 
 just A  HELIX !!

provided you know aht   is a helix ....
================
Y.P
======================

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#701942

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 09:05 -0700
Message-ID<30b4b001-3f62-4d6a-96aa-15aa50024579@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#701926
porat
This is a photon; a mixture of curtate-cycloid and curl- just call it curling-cycloid :)
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/sefton/PHOTON.GIF

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#701944

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-10 17:12 +0000
Message-ID<pn68mf$c7j$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#701942
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>porat
>This is a photon; a mixture of curtate-cycloid and curl- just call it curling-cycloid :) 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/sefton/PHOTON.GIF

John, you have the axis of the retarded precessing spinny thing on the
left aligned with the axis of the retarded spinny thing on the right. What
happens when the axes are not aligned?

Also what evidence of thi...wait, you don't believe in evidence, so never
mind.

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#701946

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 10:25 -0700
Message-ID<4e49e4ca-b043-43a9-b908-e31e191e131e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#701944
MM
“John, you have the axis of the retarded precessing spinny thing on the 
left aligned with the axis of the retarded spinny thing on the right. What 
happens when the axes are not aligned? 
”
This represents two photons in a wavetrain.
Wavetrains come from the sun in groups of many hundreds.
They exactly follow each other.

Your theory doesn’t like to talk about wavetrains or full-spectrum emr because if your theory were correct, these things would not exist.

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#701947

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 17:32 +0000
Message-ID<pn69rc$155m$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#701946
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> MM
> “John, you have the axis of the retarded precessing spinny thing on the 
> left aligned with the axis of the retarded spinny thing on the right. What 
> happens when the axes are not aligned? 
> ”
> This represents two photons in a wavetrain.
> Wavetrains come from the sun in groups of many hundreds.
> They exactly follow each other.
> 
> Your theory doesn’t like to talk about wavetrains or full-spectrum emr
> because if your theory were correct, these things would not exist.
> 

Lol. Whaaaat?

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#701961

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 11:39 -0700
Message-ID<92eb225a-87bf-4b83-8769-bd0018f60dc3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#701947
Odd
“Lol. Whaaaat? ”
I said (lol)
use your theory to explain continuous-spectrum emission, and the existence of wavetrains of ANY frequency.
Go for it.

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#701964

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-10 19:13 +0000
Message-ID<pn6fpm$d35$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#701961
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>I said (lol)
>use your theory to explain continuous-spectrum emission, and the existence 
>of wavetrains of ANY frequency.
>Go for it.

You didn't answer my question. What happens if the axis of the retarded
precessing spinny thing on the left is not aligned with the axis of the
retarded precessing spinny thing on the right?

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#701967

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-09-10 14:22 -0500
Message-ID<pn6g8q$1h5j$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#701964
On 9/10/2018 2:13 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> I said (lol)
>> use your theory to explain continuous-spectrum emission, and the existence 
>> of wavetrains of ANY frequency.
>> Go for it.
> 
> You didn't answer my question. What happens if the axis of the retarded
> precessing spinny thing on the left is not aligned with the axis of the
> retarded precessing spinny thing on the right?
> 


looks like a line through two points,
and the two retards are already lined up,
pre-cessing or post-cessing,
but spinny for sure.

(?)

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#701977

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 13:15 -0700
Message-ID<a98c056b-7bd9-4cac-91ed-8bdc471593cd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#701964
MM
“You didn't answer my question.”
I answered.
They are two members of a wavetrain.

If the second isn’t in phase, it makes a different track.

Now you. Explain how your explanation of how photons form can make wavetrains of ANY frequency

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#701988

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-09-10 21:07 +0000
Message-ID<pn6mf8$6ue$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#701977
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"You didn't answer my question."
>I answered.
>They are two members of a wavetrain.

>If the second isn't in phase, it makes a different track.

Now you answered it.

>Now you. Explain

Why won't you answer any of my questions? Such as where is the evidence of
any of this? Or why are zero volume point particles "illogical"? I'll 
answer your question anyway.

>Now you. Explain how your explanation of how photons form can make 
>wavetrains of ANY frequency

I'll try to decypher your word salad and give you something to read.
First, photons are bosons, multiple photons can be in the same state.

Second, do you mean this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulated_emission#Overview

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#702020

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 18:06 -0700
Message-ID<3140a3b4-418a-4f66-a4b5-b309724e0a18@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#701988
MM
“Second, do you mean this? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulated_emission#Overview ”

Read a book on light.

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#701987

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 21:07 +0000
Message-ID<pn6mf5$1rtt$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#701961
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “Lol. Whaaaat? ”
> I said (lol)
> use your theory to explain continuous-spectrum emission, and the
> existence of wavetrains of ANY frequency.
> Go for it.
> 

Good grief, John. Your approach is: 

1. Know nothing about the theory. 
2. Put out some random bullshit about where the theory fails. 
3. When someone laughs at (2), demand that the explanation of how the
theory accounts for it be provided.  

Tell you what, why don’t you claim that current physics cannot possibly
account for parabolic trajectories of tossed baseballs. That way you’d at
least be starting with physics at your level. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#702025

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 18:26 -0700
Message-ID<4af74b2d-04d2-4815-9b0b-71f30382d25d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#701987
Odd
“Tell you what,”
Instead of telling me, draw me a picture of what light is doing.

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#702034

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-11 02:38 +0000
Message-ID<pn79qf$lor$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#702025
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “Tell you what,”
> Instead of telling me, draw me a picture of what light is doing.
> 

How about a picture of a parabola for a tossed baseball?

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#702075

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-11 02:06 -0700
Message-ID<2e984791-754d-4ad0-84af-780779b8aae4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702034
Odd
“
How about a picture of a parabola for a tossed baseball? 
“
Here’s a picture I want: 
A high-speed picture of a coin spinning on a flat surface- does the coin rotate as it is spinning? Yes. Is that rotation consistent in any way with the spin?

Send me those.

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#702083

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-11 11:58 +0000
Message-ID<pn8alq$8e6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#702075
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “
> How about a picture of a parabola for a tossed baseball? 
> “
> Here’s a picture I want: 
> A high-speed picture of a coin spinning on a flat surface- does the coin
> rotate as it is spinning? Yes. Is that rotation consistent in any way with the spin?
> 
> Send me those.
> 

https://youtu.be/cfe7BR9tOD0

Because you can’t google from your phone, for some reason. See the 2:1? Me
neither. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#702087

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-11 07:07 -0700
Message-ID<4d74c7ce-7852-4902-bb41-a7cf3735fb1a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702083
Odd
“
https://youtu.be/cfe7BR9tOD0 

Because you can’t google from your phone, for some reason. See the 2:1? Me “

Cool.
Now do a bunch of them in a controlled way.

I doubt if you can take things like ‘2:1’ from the atomic realm and have them perform exactly the same at our size, though. Is that what QM tells you?

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#702092

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-11 07:54 -0700
Message-ID<ca15bf96-b559-4110-88b8-3bbc4d5bdfb6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702087
Odd
You’re sure fast with a picture when you have one.
Guess you don’t understand your ‘model’ well-enough to ‘picture’ it

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#702117

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-11 17:30 +0000
Message-ID<pn8u3a$1ce5$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#702092
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> You’re sure fast with a picture when you have one.
> Guess you don’t understand your ‘model’ well-enough to ‘picture’ it
> 

Every now and again I like to shame you into facing your stark incompetence
at doing a bonehead simple google search. I do this to provoke you into
trying it yourself rather than begging like a baby bird. 

See John? It’s easy. Bonehead easy. Now you try. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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