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| Started by | Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-08-18 23:08 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-08-21 13:02 -0700 |
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From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 23:08 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-08-19 16:19 +1000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 00:05 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-08-19 19:00 +1000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-19 02:39 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-19 02:43 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 06:21 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:01 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 12:45 -0400
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 09:53 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 20:47 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 18:26 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 17:45 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 12:29 -0400
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 12:26 -0400
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 12:23 -0400
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 18:26 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 12:05 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 20:47 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:19 -0700
From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 05:39 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:01 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 12:41 -0400
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 18:26 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 17:32 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 14:17 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-19 13:37 -0500
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 14:18 -0400
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 13:38 -0500
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:56 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:01 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 17:29 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 13:38 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 07:01 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 14:29 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 16:06 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 00:43 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 18:25 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-20 18:33 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 12:52 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-21 11:10 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:56 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 18:59 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-21 19:44 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 12:21 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 07:10 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 14:39 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-22 11:23 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-22 11:42 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 20:43 +0000
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-22 20:17 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-21 15:06 -0500
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-21 19:58 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 19:28 -0700
From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 10:14 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 12:24 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 13:07 -0700
Re: From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-21 13:02 -0700
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-21 11:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f762a041-0521-44f2-8eb3-a81bd9f8087c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #699437 |
On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 3:52:06 PM UTC+3, Odd > >>> Just follow the scientific methods. > >>> > >>> State your axioms, and build upon them to form a theory. Then validate > >>> that theory with experiment. Make valid predictions with the theory. > >>> > >> > >> I believe there is 113 years of literature doing exactly that. You want > >> that replicated in a newsgroup? Why??? > >> =============================(:-) > > the crock Bodkin > > js a member of a publishing company > > of publishing books ...!!! > > No sir. This is a repeated error. Retract. > > >> -- > >> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > > > now that is all the story of > > curved space > > > > TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR** LIVING** > > FROM THAT f EN CORRUPTED STORY OF 'CURVES SPACE > > AND TOO LONG NAIVE IDIOTS BELIEVE IN THAT > > IDIOTIC CORRUPTED STORY > > space has no curvature and no schmervature > > it is just nothing and can **do ** nothing! > > That’s your claim but it’s wrong and you have no evidence whatsoever that > space is nothing. > > > ================================================== > > MASS *IS THE CREATOR OF ALL FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY ! > > ==================================================== > > i proved it simply by the example of > > the magnetic force of a permanent magnet > > is it from curvers apce '?? > > > > just heatthat magnet > > and the magnetism of it is gon !! > > so dear readers > > if the magnetism of a n iron magnet is gone by > > heating it > > so where is that f en curved space gon ?? > > so > > wake up idiot parrots > > dont let those shameless crock s > > to waist your precious time and money > > --==ATB > > Y.Porat > > ================================= Bodi ..Bodkin do i have to [prove that space is nothing ??!! it is YOU ** have to prove that it is**something THAT CAN ACT/DO ANYTHING **: why did curved space suddenly disappeared while the poor**permanent** of iron - magnet was just heated ??!! TIA Y.Porat =======================
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-21 18:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <plhn9k$jkp$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #699462 |
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 3:52:06 PM UTC+3, Odd > >>> Just follow > the scientific methods. >>>>> >>>>> State your axioms, and build upon them to form a theory. Then validate >>>>> that theory with experiment. Make valid predictions with the theory. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I believe there is 113 years of literature doing exactly that. You want >>>> that replicated in a newsgroup? Why??? >>>> =============================(:-) >>> the crock Bodkin >>> js a member of a publishing company >>> of publishing books ...!!! >> >> No sir. This is a repeated error. Retract. >> >>>> -- >>>> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>> >>> now that is all the story of >>> curved space >>> >>> TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR** LIVING** >>> FROM THAT f EN CORRUPTED STORY OF 'CURVES SPACE >>> AND TOO LONG NAIVE IDIOTS BELIEVE IN THAT >>> IDIOTIC CORRUPTED STORY >>> space has no curvature and no schmervature >>> it is just nothing and can **do ** nothing! >> >> Thats your claim but its wrong and you have no evidence whatsoever that >> space is nothing. >> >>> =================================================> > MASS *IS THE >>> CREATOR OF ALL FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY ! >>> ==================================================== >>> i proved it simply by the example of >>> the magnetic force of a permanent magnet >>> is it from curvers apce '?? >>> >>> just heatthat magnet >>> and the magnetism of it is gon !! >>> so dear readers >>> if the magnetism of a n iron magnet is gone by >>> heating it >>> so where is that f en curved space gon ?? >>> so >>> wake up idiot parrots >>> dont let those shameless crock s >>> to waist your precious time and money >>> --==ATB >>> Y.Porat >>> ================================ > Bodi ..Bodkin > do i have to [prove that space is nothing ??!! Yes! Models of the universe that treat space as NOT nothing are very successful in comparison with data. So the scientific understanding of space is that it most certainly has physical properties. Since you do not agree with scientists here, yes, it is up to you to prove that it’s nothing. > > it is YOU ** have to prove that it is**something > > THAT CAN ACT/DO ANYTHING **: > > why did curved space > suddenly disappeared > while > the poor**permanent** of iron - magnet > was just heated ??!! > > TIA > Y.Porat > ====================== > > > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-21 18:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <plhnec$js5$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #699462 |
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 3:52:06 PM UTC+3, Odd > >>> Just follow > the scientific methods. >>>>> >>>>> State your axioms, and build upon them to form a theory. Then validate >>>>> that theory with experiment. Make valid predictions with the theory. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I believe there is 113 years of literature doing exactly that. You want >>>> that replicated in a newsgroup? Why??? >>>> =============================(:-) >>> the crock Bodkin >>> js a member of a publishing company >>> of publishing books ...!!! >> >> No sir. This is a repeated error. Retract. >> >>>> -- >>>> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>> >>> now that is all the story of >>> curved space >>> >>> TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR** LIVING** >>> FROM THAT f EN CORRUPTED STORY OF 'CURVES SPACE >>> AND TOO LONG NAIVE IDIOTS BELIEVE IN THAT >>> IDIOTIC CORRUPTED STORY >>> space has no curvature and no schmervature >>> it is just nothing and can **do ** nothing! >> >> Thats your claim but its wrong and you have no evidence whatsoever that >> space is nothing. >> >>> =================================================> > MASS *IS THE >>> CREATOR OF ALL FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY ! >>> ==================================================== >>> i proved it simply by the example of >>> the magnetic force of a permanent magnet >>> is it from curvers apce '?? >>> >>> just heatthat magnet >>> and the magnetism of it is gon !! >>> so dear readers >>> if the magnetism of a n iron magnet is gone by >>> heating it >>> so where is that f en curved space gon ?? >>> so >>> wake up idiot parrots >>> dont let those shameless crock s >>> to waist your precious time and money >>> --==ATB >>> Y.Porat >>> ================================ > Bodi ..Bodkin > do i have to [prove that space is nothing ??!! > > it is YOU ** have to prove that it is**something > > THAT CAN ACT/DO ANYTHING **: > > why did curved space > suddenly disappeared > while > the poor**permanent** of iron - magnet > was just heated ??!! It didn’t. The curvature of magnetic field lines has nothing — absolutely nothing — to do with the curvature of space. > > TIA > Y.Porat > ====================== > > > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-21 19:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5a83ab0a-255c-4dcd-8fce-c9e13834bd7d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #699467 |
On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 9:59:30 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >> No sir. This is a repeated error. Retract. > >> > >>>> -- > >>>> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > >>> > >>> now that is all the story of > >>> curved space > >>> > >>> TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR** LIVING** > >>> FROM THAT f EN CORRUPTED STORY OF 'CURVES SPACE > >>> AND TOO LONG NAIVE IDIOTS BELIEVE IN THAT > >>> IDIOTIC CORRUPTED STORY > >>> space has no curvature and no schmervature > >>> it is just nothing and can **do ** nothing! > >> > >> That s your claim but it s wrong and you have no evidence whatsoever that > >> space is nothing. > >> > >>> =================================================> > MASS *IS THE > >>> CREATOR OF ALL FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY ! > >>> ==================================================== > >>> i proved it simply by the example of > >>> the magnetic force of a permanent magnet > >>> is it from curvers apce '?? > >>> > >>> just heatthat magnet > >>> and the magnetism of it is gon !! > >>> so dear readers > >>> if the magnetism of a n iron magnet is gone by > >>> heating it > >>> so where is that f en curved space gon ?? > >>> so > >>> wake up idiot parrots > >>> dont let those shameless crock s > >>> to waist your precious time and money > >>> --==ATB > >>> Y.Porat > >>> ================================ > > Bodi ..Bodkin > > do i have to [prove that space is nothing ??!! > > > > it is YOU ** have to prove that it is**something > > > > THAT CAN ACT/DO ANYTHING **: > > > > why did curved space > > suddenly disappeared > > while > > the poor**permanent** of iron - magnet > > was just heated ??!! > > It didn’t. The curvature of magnetic field lines has nothing — absolutely > nothing — to do with the curvature of space. >===================================== ok now i t is your tern to explan why are those**tangible CURVED force lines** around a permanent magnet are existing and by heat --disappear ?? is it not from mass properties ??!! ===== TIA Y.Porat ==========================
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-22 12:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pljkfp$1e69$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #699523 |
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 9:59:30 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >> No sir. This is a repeated error. Retract. >>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>>>> >>>>> now that is all the story of >>>>> curved space >>>>> >>>>> TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR** LIVING** >>>>> FROM THAT f EN CORRUPTED STORY OF 'CURVES SPACE >>>>> AND TOO LONG NAIVE IDIOTS BELIEVE IN THAT >>>>> IDIOTIC CORRUPTED STORY >>>>> space has no curvature and no schmervature >>>>> it is just nothing and can **do ** nothing! >>>> >>>> That s your claim but it s wrong and you have no evidence whatsoever that >>>> space is nothing. >>>> >>>>> =================================================> > MASS *IS THE >>>>> CREATOR OF ALL FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY ! >>>>> ==================================================== >>>>> i proved it simply by the example of >>>>> the magnetic force of a permanent magnet >>>>> is it from curvers apce '?? >>>>> >>>>> just heatthat magnet >>>>> and the magnetism of it is gon !! >>>>> so dear readers >>>>> if the magnetism of a n iron magnet is gone by >>>>> heating it >>>>> so where is that f en curved space gon ?? >>>>> so >>>>> wake up idiot parrots >>>>> dont let those shameless crock s >>>>> to waist your precious time and money >>>>> --==ATB >>>>> Y.Porat >>>>> ================================ >>> Bodi ..Bodkin >>> do i have to [prove that space is nothing ??!! >>> >>> it is YOU ** have to prove that it is**something >>> >>> THAT CAN ACT/DO ANYTHING **: >>> >>> why did curved space >>> suddenly disappeared >>> while >>> the poor**permanent** of iron - magnet >>> was just heated ??!! >> >> It didnt. The curvature of magnetic field lines has nothing absolutely >> nothing to do with the curvature of space. >> ====================================ok > now i t is your tern to > explan > why are those**tangible CURVED force lines** around a permanent magnet are existing > and by heat --disappear ?? is it not from mass properties ??!! > ====TIA > Y.Porat > ========================= > > > It’s the magnetic field. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-22 07:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2f724fe0-4294-42b6-8bd8-b09ad66d5644@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #699570 |
Odd “It’s the magnetic field. ” Yes, Odd. We are talking about the magnetic field! Good catch!! So, when we heat the magnet over HERE, the magnetic field disappears OVER THERE. Your answer: it’s the magnetic field. You’re consistent, anyway- zero content across the board
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-22 14:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pljsig$1t9m$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #699575 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “It’s the magnetic field. ” > Yes, Odd. > We are talking about the magnetic field! > Good catch!! > > So, when we heat the magnet over HERE, > the magnetic field disappears OVER THERE. No. The strength of the magnetic field over there diminishes. It does not disappear. > > Your answer: it’s the magnetic field. > > You’re consistent, anyway- zero content across the board > Zero content? Porat wasn’t aware that magnetic field lines have nothing to do with the curvature of space. Now he does. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-22 11:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a359ebe6-954b-4e34-88fd-12588bbb4690@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #699570 |
On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 3:21:18 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 9:59:30 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >> No sir. This is a repeated error. Retract. > >>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > >>>>> > >>>>> now that is all the story of > >>>>> curved space > >>>>> > >>>>> TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR** LIVING** > >>>>> FROM THAT f EN CORRUPTED STORY OF 'CURVES SPACE > >>>>> AND TOO LONG NAIVE IDIOTS BELIEVE IN THAT > >>>>> IDIOTIC CORRUPTED STORY > >>>>> space has no curvature and no schmervature > >>>>> it is just nothing and can **do ** nothing! > >>>> > >>>> That s your claim but it s wrong and you have no evidence whatsoever that > >>>> space is nothing. > >>>> > >>>>> =================================================> > MASS *IS THE > >>>>> CREATOR OF ALL FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY ! > >>>>> ==================================================== > >>>>> i proved it simply by the example of > >>>>> the magnetic force of a permanent magnet > >>>>> is it from curvers apce '?? > >>>>> > >>>>> just heatthat magnet > >>>>> and the magnetism of it is gon !! > >>>>> so dear readers > >>>>> if the magnetism of a n iron magnet is gone by > >>>>> heating it > >>>>> so where is that f en curved space gon ?? > >>>>> so > >>>>> wake up idiot parrots > >>>>> dont let those shameless crock s > >>>>> to waist your precious time and money > >>>>> --==ATB > >>>>> Y.Porat > >>>>> ================================ > >>> Bodi ..Bodkin > >>> do i have to [prove that space is nothing ??!! > >>> > >>> it is YOU ** have to prove that it is**something > >>> > >>> THAT CAN ACT/DO ANYTHING **: > >>> > >>> why did curved space > >>> suddenly disappeared > >>> while > >>> the poor**permanent** of iron - magnet > >>> was just heated ??!! > >> > >> It didn t. The curvature of magnetic field lines has nothing absolutely > >> nothing to do with the curvature of space. > >> ====================================ok > > now i t is your tern to > > explan > > why are those**tangible CURVED force lines** around a permanent magnet are existing > > and by heat --disappear ?? is it not from mass properties ??!! > > ====TIA > > Y.Porat > > ========================= > > > > > > > > It’s the magnetic field. ================================== =magnetic field ''? hi genius magnetic field can be done without mass ??? ============================= Y.P ================================== >
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-22 11:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8edb0c06-cfd7-4d49-a1b5-bd16dfaf92ec@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #699599 |
On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 9:23:32 PM UTC+3, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 3:21:18 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 9:59:30 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >> No sir. This is a repeated error. Retract. > > >>>> > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > >>>>> > > >>>>> now that is all the story of > > >>>>> curved space > > >>>>> > > >>>>> TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR** LIVING** > > >>>>> FROM THAT f EN CORRUPTED STORY OF 'CURVES SPACE > > >>>>> AND TOO LONG NAIVE IDIOTS BELIEVE IN THAT > > >>>>> IDIOTIC CORRUPTED STORY > > >>>>> space has no curvature and no schmervature > > >>>>> it is just nothing and can **do ** nothing! > > >>>> > > >>>> That s your claim but it s wrong and you have no evidence whatsoever that > > >>>> space is nothing. > > >>>> > > >>>>> =================================================> > MASS *IS THE > > >>>>> CREATOR OF ALL FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY ! > > >>>>> ==================================================== > > >>>>> i proved it simply by the example of > > >>>>> the magnetic force of a permanent magnet > > >>>>> is it from curvers apce '?? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> just heatthat magnet > > >>>>> and the magnetism of it is gon !! > > >>>>> so dear readers > > >>>>> if the magnetism of a n iron magnet is gone by > > >>>>> heating it > > >>>>> so where is that f en curved space gon ?? > > >>>>> so > > >>>>> wake up idiot parrots > > >>>>> dont let those shameless crock s > > >>>>> to waist your precious time and money > > >>>>> --==ATB > > >>>>> Y.Porat > > >>>>> ================================ > > >>> Bodi ..Bodkin > > >>> do i have to [prove that space is nothing ??!! > > >>> > > >>> it is YOU ** have to prove that it is**something > > >>> > > >>> THAT CAN ACT/DO ANYTHING **: > > >>> > > >>> why did curved space > > >>> suddenly disappeared > > >>> while > > >>> the poor**permanent** of iron - magnet > > >>> was just heated ??!! > > >> > > >> It didn t. The curvature of magnetic field lines has nothing absolutely > > >> nothing to do with the curvature of space. > > >> ====================================ok > > > now i t is your tern to > > > explan > > > why are those**tangible CURVED force lines** around a permanent magnet are existing > > > and by heat --disappear ?? is it not from mass properties ??!! > > > ====TIA > > > Y.Porat > > > ========================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > It’s the magnetic field. > > ================================== > =magnetic field ''? > hi genius > magnetic field can be done without mass ??? > > ============================= > Y.P > ================================== > > ================ HI GENIOS my point is that ALL ** AGAIN ALL!! FORCES ARE DONE BY MASS !! not any f en curved space ie just another case of no curvature and n os chmervature of space ! in our case it is**curved force lines**!! that has nothing to do with curved space !! but again done by maSS !!CUVED BUT NOT BY SPACE BY MASS !!! NOT CURVED SPACE !! another example of ================================================ all forces inculding gravity are dine by **mass ================================================== could you believe another example of curved force lines that are crated by permanent magnet mass !! not by f em curved space ====================== Y.P =======================
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-22 20:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <plkhsp$1358$6@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #699599 |
<poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 3:21:18 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 9:59:30 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >> No sir. This is a repeated error. Retract. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>>>>>> >>>>>>> now that is all the story of >>>>>>> curved space >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR** LIVING** >>>>>>> FROM THAT f EN CORRUPTED STORY OF 'CURVES SPACE >>>>>>> AND TOO LONG NAIVE IDIOTS BELIEVE IN THAT >>>>>>> IDIOTIC CORRUPTED STORY >>>>>>> space has no curvature and no schmervature >>>>>>> it is just nothing and can **do ** nothing! >>>>>> >>>>>> That s your claim but it s wrong and you have no evidence whatsoever that >>>>>> space is nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>>> =================================================> > MASS *IS THE >>>>>>> CREATOR OF ALL FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY ! >>>>>>> ==================================================== >>>>>>> i proved it simply by the example of >>>>>>> the magnetic force of a permanent magnet >>>>>>> is it from curvers apce '?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> just heatthat magnet >>>>>>> and the magnetism of it is gon !! >>>>>>> so dear readers >>>>>>> if the magnetism of a n iron magnet is gone by >>>>>>> heating it >>>>>>> so where is that f en curved space gon ?? >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> wake up idiot parrots >>>>>>> dont let those shameless crock s >>>>>>> to waist your precious time and money >>>>>>> --==ATB >>>>>>> Y.Porat >>>>>>> ================================ >>>>> Bodi ..Bodkin >>>>> do i have to [prove that space is nothing ??!! >>>>> >>>>> it is YOU ** have to prove that it is**something >>>>> >>>>> THAT CAN ACT/DO ANYTHING **: >>>>> >>>>> why did curved space >>>>> suddenly disappeared >>>>> while >>>>> the poor**permanent** of iron - magnet >>>>> was just heated ??!! >>>> >>>> It didn t. The curvature of magnetic field lines has nothing absolutely >>>> nothing to do with the curvature of space. >>>> ====================================ok >>> now i t is your tern to >>> explan >>> why are those**tangible CURVED force lines** around a permanent magnet are existing >>> and by heat --disappear ?? is it not from mass properties ??!! >>> ====TIA >>> Y.Porat >>> ========================> > >>> >>> >> >> Its the magnetic field. > > ==================================magnetic field ''? > hi genius > magnetic field can be done without mass ??? > > ============================Y.P > =================================> > Are you including masses a million miles away? -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-22 20:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d03fa8dd-f5d9-4940-93e1-0c3d830e8f54@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #699610 |
On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 11:43:10 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 3:21:18 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 9:59:30 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >>>> <poraty149@gmail.com> wrote: >> No sir. This is a repeated error. Retract. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> now that is all the story of > >>>>>>> curved space > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR** LIVING** > >>>>>>> FROM THAT f EN CORRUPTED STORY OF 'CURVES SPACE > >>>>>>> AND TOO LONG NAIVE IDIOTS BELIEVE IN THAT > >>>>>>> IDIOTIC CORRUPTED STORY > >>>>>>> space has no curvature and no schmervature > >>>>>>> it is just nothing and can **do ** nothing! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That s your claim but it s wrong and you have no evidence whatsoever that > >>>>>> space is nothing. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> =================================================> > MASS *IS THE > >>>>>>> CREATOR OF ALL FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY ! > >>>>>>> ==================================================== > >>>>>>> i proved it simply by the example of > >>>>>>> the magnetic force of a permanent magnet > >>>>>>> is it from curvers apce '?? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> just heatthat magnet > >>>>>>> and the magnetism of it is gon !! > >>>>>>> so dear readers > >>>>>>> if the magnetism of a n iron magnet is gone by > >>>>>>> heating it > >>>>>>> so where is that f en curved space gon ?? > >>>>>>> so > >>>>>>> wake up idiot parrots > >>>>>>> dont let those shameless crock s > >>>>>>> to waist your precious time and money > >>>>>>> --==ATB > >>>>>>> Y.Porat > >>>>>>> ================================ > >>>>> Bodi ..Bodkin > >>>>> do i have to [prove that space is nothing ??!! > >>>>> > >>>>> it is YOU ** have to prove that it is**something > >>>>> > >>>>> THAT CAN ACT/DO ANYTHING **: > >>>>> > >>>>> why did curved space > >>>>> suddenly disappeared > >>>>> while > >>>>> the poor**permanent** of iron - magnet > >>>>> was just heated ??!! > >>>> > >>>> It didn t. The curvature of magnetic field lines has nothing absolutely > >>>> nothing to do with the curvature of space. > >>>> ====================================ok > >>> now i t is your tern to > >>> explan > >>> why are those**tangible CURVED force lines** around a permanent magnet are existing > >>> and by heat --disappear ?? is it not from mass properties ??!! > >>> ====TIA > >>> Y.Porat > >>> ========================> > > >>> > >>> > >> > >> It s the magnetic field. > > > > ==================================magnetic field ''? > > hi genius > > magnetic field can be done without mass ??? > > > > ============================Y.P > > =================================> > > > > Are you including masses a million miles away? > > -- > Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables ======================== ??? indeed toyes ) --==== does curved space is dealing with cases of million miles far from some mass ?? 2 if you dont understand the case that i broght not any one else = the Faraday experiment prove both ! 1 a force (magnetic ) shoes at least 2 things 1 there are tangible curved force lines that a stemming from mass b and not from curved space !! (even a blockhead parrot ie huold understand that a magnetism of a magnet it not by curved space but just **another property of **mass* === yet that is not all the forces that are stemming from mass ****ut all forces** are stemming fro mass you dont have a force that closer or more distance you will find the mass that created it and do you think that curves space is valid for millions of miles ? if so show us the calculations about what and how curved space is don it is done ie the connection between 1 amount of mass 2 distance 3 curvature - but exacact amount *** of curvature ?? if you dont know i know curvature is defined by RADIUS OF CURVATURE ! ==== =============== TIA y.PORAT ==================
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-21 15:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <plhrbb$q65$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #699462 |
On 8/21/2018 1:10 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 3:52:06 PM UTC+3, Odd > >>> Just follow the scientific methods. >>>>> >>>>> State your axioms, and build upon them to form a theory. Then validate >>>>> that theory with experiment. Make valid predictions with the theory. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I believe there is 113 years of literature doing exactly that. You want >>>> that replicated in a newsgroup? Why??? >>>> =============================(:-) >>> the crock Bodkin >>> js a member of a publishing company >>> of publishing books ...!!! >> >> No sir. This is a repeated error. Retract. >> >>>> -- >>>> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>> >>> now that is all the story of >>> curved space >>> >>> TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR** LIVING** >>> FROM THAT f EN CORRUPTED STORY OF 'CURVES SPACE >>> AND TOO LONG NAIVE IDIOTS BELIEVE IN THAT >>> IDIOTIC CORRUPTED STORY >>> space has no curvature and no schmervature >>> it is just nothing and can **do ** nothing! >> >> That’s your claim but it’s wrong and you have no evidence whatsoever that >> space is nothing. >> >>> ================================================== >>> MASS *IS THE CREATOR OF ALL FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY ! >>> ==================================================== >>> i proved it simply by the example of >>> the magnetic force of a permanent magnet >>> is it from curvers apce '?? >>> >>> just heatthat magnet >>> and the magnetism of it is gon !! >>> so dear readers >>> if the magnetism of a n iron magnet is gone by >>> heating it >>> so where is that f en curved space gon ?? >>> so >>> wake up idiot parrots >>> dont let those shameless crock s >>> to waist your precious time and money >>> --==ATB >>> Y.Porat >>> ================================= > > Bodi ..Bodkin > do i have to [prove that space is nothing ??!! > > it is YOU ** have to prove that it is**something > > THAT CAN ACT/DO ANYTHING **: > > why did curved space > suddenly disappeared > while > the poor**permanent** of iron - magnet > was just heated ??!! > excellent question! why would "curved space" at a distance of 6 foot, where a strong magnet would effect, suddenly disappear when the magnet is simply heated up ?
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| From | poraty149@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-21 19:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <618e8b46-7c09-46d4-90a8-0ed261f17483@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #699475 |
On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:06:09 PM UTC+3, Sergio wrote: > On 8/21/2018 1:10 PM, poraty149@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 3:52:06 PM UTC+3, Odd > >>> Just follow the scientific methods. > >>>>> > >>>>> State your axioms, and build upon them to form a theory. Then validate > >>> the crock Bodkin > >>> js a member of a publishing company > >>> of publishing books ...!!! > >> > >> No sir. This is a repeated error. Retract. > >> > >>>> -- > >>>> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > >>> > >>> now that is all the story of > >>> curved space > >>> > >>> TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR** LIVING** > >>> FROM THAT f EN CORRUPTED STORY OF 'CURVES SPACE > >>> AND TOO LONG NAIVE IDIOTS BELIEVE IN THAT > >>> IDIOTIC CORRUPTED STORY > >>> space has no curvature and no schmervature > >>> it is just nothing and can **do ** nothing! > >> > >> That’s your claim but it’s wrong and you have no evidence whatsoever that > >> space is nothing. > >> > >>> ================================================== > >>> MASS *IS THE CREATOR OF ALL FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY ! > >>> ==================================================== > >>> i proved it simply by the example of > >>> the magnetic force of a permanent magnet > >>> is it from curvers apce '?? > >>> > >>> just heatthat magnet > >>> and the magnetism of it is gon !! > >>> so dear readers > >>> if the magnetism of a n iron magnet is gone by > >>> heating it > >>> so where is that f en curved space gon ?? > >>> so > >>> wake up idiot parrots > >>> dont let those shameless crock s > >>> to waist your precious time and money > >>> --==ATB > >>> Y.Porat > >>> ================================= > > > > Bodi ..Bodkin > > do i have to [prove that space is nothing ??!! > > > > it is YOU ** have to prove that it is**something > > > > THAT CAN ACT/DO ANYTHING **: > > > > why did curved space > > suddenly disappeared > > while > > the poor**permanent** of iron - magnet > > was just heated ??!! > > > > excellent question! > > why would "curved space" at a distance of 6 foot, where a strong magnet > would effect, suddenly disappear when the magnet is simply heated up ? ================================= Thank you Sergio !! ============================ is it not clear that it is all done in mass!! i would take it ever much further : ANYTHING THAT IS JUST **DONE** IS DON BY MASS ** if you like NASS IS THE NEW GODDESS OF PHYSICS !!... ------- Y.POrat =====================
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| From | "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-21 19:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1590755c-e8d1-4a94-b40b-e95561f7bf11@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #699462 |
On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:10:33 AM UTC-7, pora...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 3:52:06 PM UTC+3, Odd > >>> Just follow the scientific methods. > > >>> > > >>> State your axioms, and build upon them to form a theory. Then validate > > >>> that theory with experiment. Make valid predictions with the theory. > > >>> > > >> > > >> I believe there is 113 years of literature doing exactly that. You want > > >> that replicated in a newsgroup? Why??? > > >> =============================(:-) > > > the crock Bodkin > > > js a member of a publishing company > > > of publishing books ...!!! > > > > No sir. This is a repeated error. Retract. > > > > >> -- > > >> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > > > > > now that is all the story of > > > curved space > > > > > > TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR** LIVING** > > > FROM THAT f EN CORRUPTED STORY OF 'CURVES SPACE > > > AND TOO LONG NAIVE IDIOTS BELIEVE IN THAT > > > IDIOTIC CORRUPTED STORY > > > space has no curvature and no schmervature > > > it is just nothing and can **do ** nothing! > > > > That’s your claim but it’s wrong and you have no evidence whatsoever that > > space is nothing. > > > > > ================================================== > > > MASS *IS THE CREATOR OF ALL FORCES INCLUDING GRAVITY ! > > > ==================================================== > > > i proved it simply by the example of > > > the magnetic force of a permanent magnet > > > is it from curvers apce '?? > > > > > > just heatthat magnet > > > and the magnetism of it is gon !! > > > so dear readers > > > if the magnetism of a n iron magnet is gone by > > > heating it > > > so where is that f en curved space gon ?? > > > so > > > wake up idiot parrots > > > dont let those shameless crock s > > > to waist your precious time and money > > > --==ATB > > > Y.Porat > > > ================================= > > Bodi ..Bodkin > do i have to [prove that space is nothing ??!! > > it is YOU ** have to prove that it is**something > > THAT CAN ACT/DO ANYTHING **: > > why did curved space > suddenly disappeared > while > the poor**permanent** of iron - magnet > was just heated ??!! > > TIA > Y.Porat > ======================= Sleeping on a water bed gives you great dreams about gravity.Its has a rubber surface.It curves,and the more you weigh the greater the curve gets.It relates to my posting mass density increasing creates a greater gravity force.A feather on my water bed not even noticed An anvil big dent.Kicker is both want to accelerate to Earth gravitational core at the same rate.That tells me gravity is a low,and all goes at the same speed.Common sense tells you heavy stuff should go faster.Galellio gave us the truth. Bert
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-19 10:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <47d7b4b9-8638-412f-95fa-9666bd19f1bf@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #699171 |
Arindam The aether is everywhere, making up, or-better- manifesting all matter. Okay? But you have a basic disconnect, here, because you start talking like it IS the matter. If the Sun is over THERE made from THAT aether, and we are over HERE, made from THIS aether, and then we move to a new place, we are now made from the aether in that new place. NO AETHER MOVES. There is and can be NO AETHER WIND. MM was proving only that they didn’t understand that. For example: watching football on TV- does the ball carry its pixels with it when it gets kicked? And then surrounding pixels rush in to fill the gap? THAT is ‘aether wind’. How stupid is that? Marginally more stupid than not realizing that Carbon rings can share one way and accept from the other and ‘delocalizing’ their ‘fundamental’ particle (just before they ‘distribute’ it because of course it CAN’T be moving since if it were it would radiate etc etc) Idiots rule
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| From | Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-19 12:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6805db5e-28e1-40aa-809f-46d3e43e381e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #699171 |
On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 8:08:25 PM UTC-10, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? > > How does it support the transmission of light? > > No mathematical blah, please. > > Just follow the scientific methods. > > State your axioms, and build upon them to form a theory. Then validate that theory with experiment. Make valid predictions with the theory. Spacetime is defined by gravity. The amount of space taken into baryons is equal to the amount of time excreted. space = time proton volume = 5.13ns for r = 0/95fm r is proton radius momentum of spacetime = 7.02*10^-37 cubic meters per second per baryon It's the Law.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-19 13:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6e3b9185-c42f-4489-bf31-8759530f94bb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #699250 |
Alan “Spacetime is defined by gravity. The amount of space taken into baryons is equal to the amount of time excreted. ” Haha. Pretty close on the gravity thing. The amount of electron energy absorbed by protons is equal to the amount radiated by electrons.
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-21 13:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f32b7e8f-d995-424a-8c25-9872415131b0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #699171 |
On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 11:08:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: > From first principles what is the definition of spacetime? Aether dimension - Gravity - Time > > How does it support the transmission of light? Gravity guided the motion of light... > No mathematical blah, please. Universal Gamma mathematics... > > Just follow the scientific methods. There is a problem for scientists. Methods can leave things out... > > State your axioms, and build upon them to form a theory. Then validate that theory with experiment. Make valid predictions with the theory. There are no black holes Roy Masters... Mitchell Raemsch
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