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Rub Odd's nose in it.

Started bybenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
First post2018-08-05 02:13 -0400
Last post2018-08-08 05:44 -0700
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  Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 02:13 -0400
    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 00:19 -0700
    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Tson Ylor <uo@srsysts.sd> - 2018-08-05 12:08 +0000
      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 10:08 -0700
    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 13:06 +0000
      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 12:10 -0400
        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 18:57 +0000
          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 13:33 -0400
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 18:07 +0000
              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 17:23 -0400
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 22:43 +0000
                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 04:39 -0400
                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 13:45 +0000
                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 08:38 -0700
                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 16:56 +0000
                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 20:11 -0400
                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 15:24 +0000
                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 08:42 -0700
                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-08 11:49 -0500
                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 13:07 -0400
                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 17:02 +0000
                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 12:51 -0400
                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 13:06 -0400
                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 17:27 +0000
                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 12:50 -0400
                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 10:32 -0700
                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 17:58 +0000
                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 12:11 -0700
                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 09:43 -0700
    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-05 08:27 -0500
      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Tson Ylor <uo@srsysts.sg> - 2018-08-05 14:13 +0000
        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 08:12 -0700
          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 12:19 -0400
          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 06:38 -0700
        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 12:23 -0400
          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Tson Ylor <uo@srsysts.sg> - 2018-08-05 17:47 +0000
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 13:32 -0400
              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.hp> - 2018-08-06 18:05 +0000
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 17:15 -0400
                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.hn> - 2018-08-07 09:21 +0000
                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-08-07 08:36 -0400
      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 12:17 -0400
        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 18:57 +0000
          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 13:31 -0700
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 20:40 +0000
              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 16:19 -0700
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-06 04:29 +0000
                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 13:55 +0000
              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 13:43 -0400
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 18:17 +0000
                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 17:25 -0400
                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 22:43 +0000
                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 04:42 -0400
                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 13:45 +0000
                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 12:52 -0400
                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 17:23 +0000
                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 20:18 -0400
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-06 04:27 +0000
              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 06:13 -0700
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 13:55 +0000
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-06 15:17 +0000
                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 11:59 -0700
                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 13:09 -0700
                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-06 15:31 -0500
                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 13:47 -0700
                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-06 16:01 -0500
                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 14:11 -0700
                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-06 16:22 -0500
                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 17:29 -0400
                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-06 21:29 +0000
                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 14:34 -0700
                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-06 16:48 -0500
                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-06 21:49 +0000
                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-06 18:01 -0500
                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 04:46 -0400
                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 13:49 +0000
                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 12:54 -0400
                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 17:23 +0000
                                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 20:18 -0400
                                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 15:55 +0000
                                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 13:00 -0400
                                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 09:53 -0700
                                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 09:57 -0700
                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 17:23 +0000
                                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 18:00 -0400
                                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 22:22 +0000
                                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 17:54 -0400
                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 15:05 -0700
                                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 15:24 -0700
                                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 19:53 -0400
                                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-09 11:49 -0500
                                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 18:27 -0400
                                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 22:47 +0000
                                                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 19:11 -0400
                                                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 15:08 +0000
                                                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 12:30 -0400
                                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 16:43 +0000
                                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 15:05 -0700
                                                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 18:30 -0400
                                                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 23:05 +0000
                                                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 03:12 -0400
                                                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 03:15 -0700
                                                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 13:55 +0000
                                                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 10:25 -0700
                                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 06:52 -0700
                                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-10 09:36 -0500
                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-07 01:58 +0000
                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 21:45 -0700
                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 09:48 -0700
                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-07 17:29 +0000
                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 21:29 +0000
                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 09:46 -0700
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 06:44 -0700
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 13:41 -0400
          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 13:39 -0400
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-06 19:22 -0500
              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 18:14 -0700
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 01:49 +0000
                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 18:55 -0700
                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 04:54 -0400
                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-06 22:17 -0500
        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-05 18:41 -0500
          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 08:59 -0700
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 16:24 +0000
              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 11:20 -0700
        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 06:40 -0700
          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 14:27 +0000
      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-05 22:50 -0500
        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-06 13:51 -0400
          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-06 13:08 -0500
    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-05 12:23 -0700
      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 19:31 +0000
        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-05 13:09 -0700
    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-08-07 11:40 +1000
      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 01:49 +0000
      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 04:53 -0400
        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.hn> - 2018-08-07 10:02 +0000
          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-07 08:55 -0500
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 13:05 -0400
        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-07 11:24 -0500
          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 16:56 +0000
          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-07 20:04 -0400
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-08 09:05 +0200
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-08-08 17:14 +1000
              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 10:34 -0400
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 07:45 -0700
                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 11:18 -0400
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-08 20:16 +0200
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-08-09 09:15 +1000
                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 19:57 -0400
                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-08-09 11:48 +1000
                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 11:02 -0400
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-08 11:08 -0500
              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 13:23 -0400
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-08 20:26 +0200
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 14:52 -0700
                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 20:06 -0400
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-09 10:15 -0500
                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 12:48 -0400
                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-11 23:37 -0500
                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Owen Scharff <nehh@fenvhw.ho> - 2018-08-12 11:31 +0000
                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Owen Scharff <nehh@fenvhw.ho> - 2018-08-12 11:34 +0000
                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-12 10:09 -0400
                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-12 21:29 -0500
                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-13 10:53 +0000
                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 11:41 -0400
                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-15 18:56 -0500
                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 17:24 -0700
                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 14:32 +0000
                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 13:22 -0400
                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 18:59 +0000
                                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 20:19 -0400
                                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 00:59 +0000
                                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 06:33 -0400
                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 11:33 +0000
                                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 08:53 -0700
                                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 16:00 +0000
                                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 09:19 -0700
                                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 16:46 +0000
                                                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 10:30 -0700
                                                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 20:54 +0000
                                                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 14:13 -0400
                                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 13:43 -0400
                                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 20:54 +0000
                                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 13:37 -0400
                                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 10:52 -0700
                                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 20:54 +0000
                                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 11:17 -0700
                                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 12:09 -0700
                                                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 20:58 +0000
                                                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 15:19 -0700
                                                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 22:33 +0000
                                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 15:55 -0700
                                                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 14:11 +0000
                                                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 07:22 -0700
                                                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 15:56 +0000
                                                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 11:03 -0700
                                                                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 18:32 +0000
                                                                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 14:21 -0700
                                                                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 00:15 +0000
                                                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 17:35 -0700
                                                                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 02:38 +0000
                                                                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 02:54 -0700
                                                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 19:15 -0700
                                                                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:01 +0000
                                                                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-08-19 22:20 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 14:29 -0400
                                                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 16:31 -0400
                                                                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 15:44 -0700
                                                                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 21:57 -0400
                                                                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 20:02 -0700
                                                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 14:21 -0400
                                                                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 00:15 +0000
                                                                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 22:03 -0400
                                                                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 20:05 -0700
                                                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 14:39 +0000
                                                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 14:22 -0400
                                                                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 19:44 +0000
                                                                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 16:30 -0400
                                                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 00:15 +0000
                                                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 22:01 -0400
                                                                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:01 +0000
                                                                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 12:39 -0400
                                                                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 18:35 +0000
                                                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 14:12 -0400
                                                                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 19:44 +0000
                                                                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 20:15 -0700
                                                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 05:43 -0700
                                                                              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 07:23 -0700
                                                                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-20 14:25 -0400
                                                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 15:38 -0700
                                                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 16:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 02:38 +0000
                                                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 20:54 +0000
                                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 15:24 -0700
                                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 20:01 -0400
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 23:55 +0000
              Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 10:58 -0400
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 15:26 +0000
                  Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 12:36 -0400
                    Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 17:53 +0000
                      Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 12:21 -0700
                        Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 21:49 +0000
                          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 19:28 -0400
                            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 15:08 +0000
                Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 07:01 -0700
          Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. Owen Scharff <nehh@fenohw.hn> - 2018-08-08 11:12 +0000
            Re: Rub Odd's nose in it. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-08 05:44 -0700

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#697417

FromVolney <volney@volney.invalid>
Date2018-08-07 08:36 -0400
Message-ID<pkc3kf$cud$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#697409
On 8/7/2018 5:21 AM, the nymshifting troll, now trolling as Owen 
Scharff, wrote:
> I'm just popping in here, and what am I seeing. This place is a magnet
> attracting almost half-engineers in computer science.
> 

No, you are not "just popping in here", nymshifter. You just recently 
nynshifted to a new nym and are now (ab)using it.

Do you *really* think you are fooling anyone, nymshifter?

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#697105

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-05 12:17 -0400
Message-ID<pk77ud$1c7l$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697089
On 8/5/2018 9:27 AM, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 8/5/18 1:13 AM, benj wrote:
>> Odd Boinker says that electric fields do not travel that the speed c. 
>> (the speed of light) He says only field disturbances travel at that 
>> speed.
>> [... nonsense]
> 
> He is correct: fields do not "propagate", but changes in fields can and 
> do. To see this, all one has to do is examine a) what "field" means, and 
> b) the form of the Lienard-Wiechert potentials of classical 
> electrodynamics.
> 
> Your discussion violates basic conservation laws and is therefore 
> useless. Modifying it to obey the conservation of charge forces the two 
> charges to be introduced at the same point and then separated, and that 
> destroys what you think is an argument.
> 
> But it is true that if you have a charge present, and then wiggle it, 
> locations a distance L away won't observe the wiggling until a delay of 
> L/c.
> 
> Tom Roberts

So your argument is that all fields already exist throughout all space 
and then when a charge is created only the disturbances travel down 
these already existing fields at the speed of c?  You know that is 
nonsense.

Even if you introduce two charges and separate them, this still creates 
a dipole field traveling away at c. It will not be instantaneously 
sensed by a test charge somewhere.

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#697120

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-05 18:57 +0000
Message-ID<pk7h9v$1t5m$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697105
benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/5/2018 9:27 AM, Tom Roberts wrote:
>> On 8/5/18 1:13 AM, benj wrote:
>>> Odd Boinker says that electric fields do not travel that the speed c. 
>>> (the speed of light) He says only field disturbances travel at that 
>>> speed.
>>> [... nonsense]
>> 
>> He is correct: fields do not "propagate", but changes in fields can and 
>> do. To see this, all one has to do is examine a) what "field" means, and 
>> b) the form of the Lienard-Wiechert potentials of classical 
>> electrodynamics.
>> 
>> Your discussion violates basic conservation laws and is therefore 
>> useless. Modifying it to obey the conservation of charge forces the two 
>> charges to be introduced at the same point and then separated, and that 
>> destroys what you think is an argument.
>> 
>> But it is true that if you have a charge present, and then wiggle it, 
>> locations a distance L away won't observe the wiggling until a delay of 
>> L/c.
>> 
>> Tom Roberts
> 
> So your argument is that all fields already exist throughout all space 
> and then when a charge is created only the disturbances travel down 
> these already existing fields at the speed of c?  You know that is 
> nonsense.

No, it’s absolutely right. 

> 
> Even if you introduce two charges and separate them, this still creates 
> a dipole field traveling away at c. It will not be instantaneously 
> sensed by a test charge somewhere.
> 


You’re not creating the dipole field. You’re changing the field to pick up
a dipole configuration. That configuration — that CHANGE — propagates at c.
So say the textbooks. 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#697141

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-05 13:31 -0700
Message-ID<0675519d-776b-4180-af67-c758486c7c44@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697120
Odd
“> So your argument is that all fields already exist throughout all space 
> and then when a charge is created only the disturbances travel down 
> these already existing fields at the speed of c?  You know that is 
> nonsense. 

No, it’s absolutely right. 
”
Odd, you have zero logic.
Some things happen here and others there and many are extremely complicated and repetitive and other places nothing ever happens.
And all that multiplies and squares a mile a minute with Time.
Odd, you don’t possess a logical bone in your body.

I’ll bet you believe in the Space Elevator.

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#697142

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-05 20:40 +0000
Message-ID<pk7nc5$8mb$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697141
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
>> So your argument is that all fields already exist throughout all space 
>> and then when a charge is created only the disturbances travel down 
>> these already existing fields at the speed of c?  You know that is 
>> nonsense. 
> 
> No, it’s absolutely right. 
> ”
> Odd, you have zero logic.
> Some things happen here and others there and many are extremely
> complicated and repetitive and other places nothing ever happens.
> And all that multiplies and squares a mile a minute with Time.

John, I just love how everything you can not fathom becomes illogical, by
your estimation. 

If it’s not immediately obvious to the unread, the unskilled, and the
uneducated, then it’s illogical. And anyone who believes it is lacking any
logical bone in their body. 

Lol. 

There must be a TON of things you consider illogical, across a lot of
areas. 

> Odd, you don’t possess a logical bone in your body.
> 
> I’ll bet you believe in the Space Elevator.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#697149

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-05 16:19 -0700
Message-ID<efaf7c4e-dfb8-47d6-a98f-6f7582172801@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697142
Odd
“There must be a TON of things you consider illogical, across a lot of 
areas. 
”
Mostly just the crazy stuff you espouse.
Point particles.
Suck Gravity.
Distributed/delocalized fundamentals (amazing oxymoron- one of your best)
Moving but non moving electrons.
You know.
All your crazy stuff

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#697200

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-08-06 04:29 +0000
Message-ID<pk8iqv$ap$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#697149
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Mostly just the crazy stuff you espouse.
>Point particles.
>Suck Gravity.
>Distributed/delocalized fundamentals (amazing oxymoron- one of your best)
>Moving but non moving electrons.
>You know.
>All your crazy stuff

Could you explain _why_ you consider all that to be "crazy" ?
(I know the answer; no!)

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#697226

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-06 13:55 +0000
Message-ID<pk9jvo$16mn$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697200
Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Mostly just the crazy stuff you espouse.
>> Point particles.
>> Suck Gravity.
>> Distributed/delocalized fundamentals (amazing oxymoron- one of your best)
>> Moving but non moving electrons.
>> You know.
>> All your crazy stuff
> 
> Could you explain _why_ you consider all that to be "crazy" ?
> (I know the answer; no!)
> 

John, if you respond, “it’s just OBVIOUS to me,” then all this really shows
is that you never question your personal beliefs and assumptions. Part of
this is because you don’t actually know what your assumptions even are, let
alone why you think they are true. Reality is different than what you just
FEEL is true.  

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#697273

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-06 13:43 -0400
Message-ID<pka1cn$1v9l$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697142
On 8/5/2018 4:40 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Odd
>>> So your argument is that all fields already exist throughout all space
>>> and then when a charge is created only the disturbances travel down
>>> these already existing fields at the speed of c?  You know that is
>>> nonsense.
>>
>> No, it’s absolutely right.
>> ”
>> Odd, you have zero logic.
>> Some things happen here and others there and many are extremely
>> complicated and repetitive and other places nothing ever happens.
>> And all that multiplies and squares a mile a minute with Time.
> 
> John, I just love how everything you can not fathom becomes illogical, by
> your estimation.
> 
> If it’s not immediately obvious to the unread, the unskilled, and the
> uneducated, then it’s illogical. And anyone who believes it is lacking any
> logical bone in their body.
> 
> Lol.
> There must be a TON of things you consider illogical, across a lot of
> areas.

And a large number of those things John (and any sane person) finds 
illogical are issuing from your posts, Odd.

>> Odd, you don’t possess a logical bone in your body.
>>
>> I’ll bet you believe in the Space Elevator.
>>
> 
> 
> 

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#697285

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-06 18:17 +0000
Message-ID<pka3bp$3d0$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697273
benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/5/2018 4:40 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Odd
>>>> So your argument is that all fields already exist throughout all space
>>>> and then when a charge is created only the disturbances travel down
>>>> these already existing fields at the speed of c?  You know that is
>>>> nonsense.
>>> 
>>> No, it’s absolutely right.
>>> ”
>>> Odd, you have zero logic.
>>> Some things happen here and others there and many are extremely
>>> complicated and repetitive and other places nothing ever happens.
>>> And all that multiplies and squares a mile a minute with Time.
>> 
>> John, I just love how everything you can not fathom becomes illogical, by
>> your estimation.
>> 
>> If it’s not immediately obvious to the unread, the unskilled, and the
>> uneducated, then it’s illogical. And anyone who believes it is lacking any
>> logical bone in their body.
>> 
>> Lol.
>> There must be a TON of things you consider illogical, across a lot of
>> areas.
> 
> And a large number of those things John (and any sane person) 

And since there are a BUNCH of physicists who don’t find them illogical,
they are all insane, right, Ben?

> finds 
> illogical are issuing from your posts, Odd.
> 
>>> Odd, you don’t possess a logical bone in your body.
>>> 
>>> I’ll bet you believe in the Space Elevator.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#697319

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-06 17:25 -0400
Message-ID<pkaebt$m6e$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697285
On 8/6/2018 2:17 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 8/5/2018 4:40 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Odd
>>>>> So your argument is that all fields already exist throughout all space
>>>>> and then when a charge is created only the disturbances travel down
>>>>> these already existing fields at the speed of c?  You know that is
>>>>> nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> No, it’s absolutely right.
>>>> ”
>>>> Odd, you have zero logic.
>>>> Some things happen here and others there and many are extremely
>>>> complicated and repetitive and other places nothing ever happens.
>>>> And all that multiplies and squares a mile a minute with Time.
>>>
>>> John, I just love how everything you can not fathom becomes illogical, by
>>> your estimation.
>>>
>>> If it’s not immediately obvious to the unread, the unskilled, and the
>>> uneducated, then it’s illogical. And anyone who believes it is lacking any
>>> logical bone in their body.
>>>
>>> Lol.
>>> There must be a TON of things you consider illogical, across a lot of
>>> areas.
>>
>> And a large number of those things John (and any sane person)
> 
> And since there are a BUNCH of physicists who don’t find them illogical,
> they are all insane, right, Ben?

Well, insane or perhaps philosophers. It's sort of the same thing.


>> finds
>> illogical are issuing from your posts, Odd.
>>
>>>> Odd, you don’t possess a logical bone in your body.
>>>>
>>>> I’ll bet you believe in the Space Elevator.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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#697342

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-06 22:43 +0000
Message-ID<pkaits$t11$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697319
benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/6/2018 2:17 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/5/2018 4:40 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Odd
>>>>>> So your argument is that all fields already exist throughout all space
>>>>>> and then when a charge is created only the disturbances travel down
>>>>>> these already existing fields at the speed of c?  You know that is
>>>>>> nonsense.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No, it’s absolutely right.
>>>>> ”
>>>>> Odd, you have zero logic.
>>>>> Some things happen here and others there and many are extremely
>>>>> complicated and repetitive and other places nothing ever happens.
>>>>> And all that multiplies and squares a mile a minute with Time.
>>>> 
>>>> John, I just love how everything you can not fathom becomes illogical, by
>>>> your estimation.
>>>> 
>>>> If it’s not immediately obvious to the unread, the unskilled, and the
>>>> uneducated, then it’s illogical. And anyone who believes it is lacking any
>>>> logical bone in their body.
>>>> 
>>>> Lol.
>>>> There must be a TON of things you consider illogical, across a lot of
>>>> areas.
>>> 
>>> And a large number of those things John (and any sane person)
>> 
>> And since there are a BUNCH of physicists who don’t find them illogical,
>> they are all insane, right, Ben?
> 
> Well, insane or perhaps philosophers. It's sort of the same thing.

Well, I’m sure the physics community is mightily shamed by you calling the
lot of them insane philosophers. 

> 
> 
>>> finds
>>> illogical are issuing from your posts, Odd.
>>> 
>>>>> Odd, you don’t possess a logical bone in your body.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ll bet you believe in the Space Elevator.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#697401

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-07 04:42 -0400
Message-ID<pkbm18$btj$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697342
On 8/6/2018 6:43 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 8/6/2018 2:17 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/5/2018 4:40 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Odd
>>>>>>> So your argument is that all fields already exist throughout all space
>>>>>>> and then when a charge is created only the disturbances travel down
>>>>>>> these already existing fields at the speed of c?  You know that is
>>>>>>> nonsense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it’s absolutely right.
>>>>>> ”
>>>>>> Odd, you have zero logic.
>>>>>> Some things happen here and others there and many are extremely
>>>>>> complicated and repetitive and other places nothing ever happens.
>>>>>> And all that multiplies and squares a mile a minute with Time.
>>>>>
>>>>> John, I just love how everything you can not fathom becomes illogical, by
>>>>> your estimation.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it’s not immediately obvious to the unread, the unskilled, and the
>>>>> uneducated, then it’s illogical. And anyone who believes it is lacking any
>>>>> logical bone in their body.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lol.
>>>>> There must be a TON of things you consider illogical, across a lot of
>>>>> areas.
>>>>
>>>> And a large number of those things John (and any sane person)
>>>
>>> And since there are a BUNCH of physicists who don’t find them illogical,
>>> they are all insane, right, Ben?
>>
>> Well, insane or perhaps philosophers. It's sort of the same thing.
> 
> Well, I’m sure the physics community is mightily shamed by you calling the
> lot of them insane philosophers.

I said insane OR philosophers. For a publisher you certainly have never 
learned reading comprehension. If you are going to make statements for 
me why not just write the whole posts for me too? Thanks.

>>
>>>> finds
>>>> illogical are issuing from your posts, Odd.
>>>>
>>>>>> Odd, you don’t possess a logical bone in your body.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ll bet you believe in the Space Elevator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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#697422

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-07 13:45 +0000
Message-ID<pkc7q3$1ai5$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697401
benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/6/2018 6:43 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/6/2018 2:17 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/5/2018 4:40 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Odd
>>>>>>>> So your argument is that all fields already exist throughout all space
>>>>>>>> and then when a charge is created only the disturbances travel down
>>>>>>>> these already existing fields at the speed of c?  You know that is
>>>>>>>> nonsense.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No, it’s absolutely right.
>>>>>>> ”
>>>>>>> Odd, you have zero logic.
>>>>>>> Some things happen here and others there and many are extremely
>>>>>>> complicated and repetitive and other places nothing ever happens.
>>>>>>> And all that multiplies and squares a mile a minute with Time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John, I just love how everything you can not fathom becomes illogical, by
>>>>>> your estimation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If it’s not immediately obvious to the unread, the unskilled, and the
>>>>>> uneducated, then it’s illogical. And anyone who believes it is lacking any
>>>>>> logical bone in their body.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>> There must be a TON of things you consider illogical, across a lot of
>>>>>> areas.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And a large number of those things John (and any sane person)
>>>> 
>>>> And since there are a BUNCH of physicists who don’t find them illogical,
>>>> they are all insane, right, Ben?
>>> 
>>> Well, insane or perhaps philosophers. It's sort of the same thing.
>> 
>> Well, I’m sure the physics community is mightily shamed by you calling the
>> lot of them insane philosophers.
> 
> I said insane OR philosophers. 

Well, I’m sure the physics community is mightily shamed by you calling the
lot of them insane OR philosophers. 

> For a publisher you certainly have never 
> learned reading comprehension. 

I’m not a publisher. Can you read that?

> If you are going to make statements for 
> me why not just write the whole posts for me too? Thanks.
> 
>>> 
>>>>> finds
>>>>> illogical are issuing from your posts, Odd.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Odd, you don’t possess a logical bone in your body.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’ll bet you believe in the Space Elevator.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#697443

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-07 12:52 -0400
Message-ID<pkcioo$1u78$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697422
On 8/7/2018 9:45 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 8/6/2018 6:43 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/6/2018 2:17 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/5/2018 4:40 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Odd
>>>>>>>>> So your argument is that all fields already exist throughout all space
>>>>>>>>> and then when a charge is created only the disturbances travel down
>>>>>>>>> these already existing fields at the speed of c?  You know that is
>>>>>>>>> nonsense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, it’s absolutely right.
>>>>>>>> ”
>>>>>>>> Odd, you have zero logic.
>>>>>>>> Some things happen here and others there and many are extremely
>>>>>>>> complicated and repetitive and other places nothing ever happens.
>>>>>>>> And all that multiplies and squares a mile a minute with Time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John, I just love how everything you can not fathom becomes illogical, by
>>>>>>> your estimation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it’s not immediately obvious to the unread, the unskilled, and the
>>>>>>> uneducated, then it’s illogical. And anyone who believes it is lacking any
>>>>>>> logical bone in their body.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>> There must be a TON of things you consider illogical, across a lot of
>>>>>>> areas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And a large number of those things John (and any sane person)
>>>>>
>>>>> And since there are a BUNCH of physicists who don’t find them illogical,
>>>>> they are all insane, right, Ben?
>>>>
>>>> Well, insane or perhaps philosophers. It's sort of the same thing.
>>>
>>> Well, I’m sure the physics community is mightily shamed by you calling the
>>> lot of them insane philosophers.
>>
>> I said insane OR philosophers.
> 
> Well, I’m sure the physics community is mightily shamed by you calling the
> lot of them insane OR philosophers.

You are a philosopher, Odd. Are you shamed by the term?

>> For a publisher you certainly have never
>> learned reading comprehension.
> 
> I’m not a publisher. Can you read that?

Disingenuous denial noted, Roy.

>> If you are going to make statements for
>> me why not just write the whole posts for me too? Thanks.
>>
>>>>
>>>>>> finds
>>>>>> illogical are issuing from your posts, Odd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Odd, you don’t possess a logical bone in your body.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’ll bet you believe in the Space Elevator.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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#697452

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-07 17:23 +0000
Message-ID<pkckic$1po$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697443
benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/7/2018 9:45 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/6/2018 6:43 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/6/2018 2:17 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/5/2018 4:40 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Odd
>>>>>>>>>> So your argument is that all fields already exist throughout all space
>>>>>>>>>> and then when a charge is created only the disturbances travel down
>>>>>>>>>> these already existing fields at the speed of c?  You know that is
>>>>>>>>>> nonsense.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No, it’s absolutely right.
>>>>>>>>> ”
>>>>>>>>> Odd, you have zero logic.
>>>>>>>>> Some things happen here and others there and many are extremely
>>>>>>>>> complicated and repetitive and other places nothing ever happens.
>>>>>>>>> And all that multiplies and squares a mile a minute with Time.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John, I just love how everything you can not fathom becomes illogical, by
>>>>>>>> your estimation.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If it’s not immediately obvious to the unread, the unskilled, and the
>>>>>>>> uneducated, then it’s illogical. And anyone who believes it is lacking any
>>>>>>>> logical bone in their body.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>> There must be a TON of things you consider illogical, across a lot of
>>>>>>>> areas.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And a large number of those things John (and any sane person)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And since there are a BUNCH of physicists who don’t find them illogical,
>>>>>> they are all insane, right, Ben?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, insane or perhaps philosophers. It's sort of the same thing.
>>>> 
>>>> Well, I’m sure the physics community is mightily shamed by you calling the
>>>> lot of them insane philosophers.
>>> 
>>> I said insane OR philosophers.
>> 
>> Well, I’m sure the physics community is mightily shamed by you calling the
>> lot of them insane OR philosophers.
> 
> You are a philosopher, Odd. Are you shamed by the term?

I’m not a member of the physics community. 
Neither are you, apparently, since you regard the lot of them as insane OR
philosophers. 

And yes, I have some schooling in philosophy. 

> 
>>> For a publisher you certainly have never
>>> learned reading comprehension.
>> 
>> I’m not a publisher. Can you read that?
> 
> Disingenuous denial noted, Roy.

No, really, I’m not a publisher. 
But if you want to start behaving like our favorite street psycho Mitch,
then I’m sure the reception will be similar. 

> 
>>> If you are going to make statements for
>>> me why not just write the whole posts for me too? Thanks.
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> finds
>>>>>>> illogical are issuing from your posts, Odd.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Odd, you don’t possess a logical bone in your body.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I’ll bet you believe in the Space Elevator.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#697529

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-07 20:18 -0400
Message-ID<pkdct2$16qm$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697452
On 8/7/2018 1:23 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 8/7/2018 9:45 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/6/2018 6:43 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/6/2018 2:17 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2018 4:40 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Odd
>>>>>>>>>>> So your argument is that all fields already exist throughout all space
>>>>>>>>>>> and then when a charge is created only the disturbances travel down
>>>>>>>>>>> these already existing fields at the speed of c?  You know that is
>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, it’s absolutely right.
>>>>>>>>>> ”
>>>>>>>>>> Odd, you have zero logic.
>>>>>>>>>> Some things happen here and others there and many are extremely
>>>>>>>>>> complicated and repetitive and other places nothing ever happens.
>>>>>>>>>> And all that multiplies and squares a mile a minute with Time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John, I just love how everything you can not fathom becomes illogical, by
>>>>>>>>> your estimation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it’s not immediately obvious to the unread, the unskilled, and the
>>>>>>>>> uneducated, then it’s illogical. And anyone who believes it is lacking any
>>>>>>>>> logical bone in their body.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>>> There must be a TON of things you consider illogical, across a lot of
>>>>>>>>> areas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And a large number of those things John (and any sane person)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And since there are a BUNCH of physicists who don’t find them illogical,
>>>>>>> they are all insane, right, Ben?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, insane or perhaps philosophers. It's sort of the same thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I’m sure the physics community is mightily shamed by you calling the
>>>>> lot of them insane philosophers.
>>>>
>>>> I said insane OR philosophers.
>>>
>>> Well, I’m sure the physics community is mightily shamed by you calling the
>>> lot of them insane OR philosophers.
>>
>> You are a philosopher, Odd. Are you shamed by the term?
> 
> I’m not a member of the physics community.
> Neither are you, apparently, since you regard the lot of them as insane OR
> philosophers.
> 
> And yes, I have some schooling in philosophy.
> 
>>
>>>> For a publisher you certainly have never
>>>> learned reading comprehension.
>>>
>>> I’m not a publisher. Can you read that?
>>
>> Disingenuous denial noted, Roy.
> 
> No, really, I’m not a publisher.
> But if you want to start behaving like our favorite street psycho Mitch,
> then I’m sure the reception will be similar.

What ever you say, Roy Masters.

>>
>>>> If you are going to make statements for
>>>> me why not just write the whole posts for me too? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> finds
>>>>>>>> illogical are issuing from your posts, Odd.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Odd, you don’t possess a logical bone in your body.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’ll bet you believe in the Space Elevator.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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#697199

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-08-06 04:27 +0000
Message-ID<pk8io8$ap$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#697141
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd, you have zero logic.

You won't ever explain why what you consider logical is logical or
why Odd has "zero logic".

I know several things you simply don't believe in (fundamental particles
etc.) but you never explain _why._ You appear to be projecting your
disbelief as "that's not logical" but, of course, you can never justify
such projection.

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#697217

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-06 06:13 -0700
Message-ID<e86777f2-bac1-4441-9ea2-ca093d41fd39@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#697199
MM
“You won't ever explain why what you consider logical is logical or 
why Odd has "zero logic". “

You are asking why a point particle is illogical?

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#697225

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-06 13:55 +0000
Message-ID<pk9jvn$16mn$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#697217
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> MM
> “You won't ever explain why what you consider logical is logical or 
> why Odd has "zero logic". “
> 
> You are asking why a point particle is illogical?
> 

Yes, John. 
Please note: 
1. Different than common experience is not illogical. 
2. Conflict with your own personal beliefs (like, all real things must have
volume) is not illogical. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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