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| First post | 2018-07-26 01:09 -0700 |
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IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 01:09 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 01:14 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 05:43 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 06:00 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 07:53 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! nobody@invalid.invalid - 2018-07-26 11:56 -0400
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 09:08 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 14:07 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:28 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:02 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 21:45 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:36 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:05 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:38 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 18:50 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 03:08 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 21:27 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 21:34 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 04:43 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 21:51 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 05:08 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 22:35 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 22:41 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:59 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 21:49 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 23:05 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 00:05 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 01:22 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:02 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 14:59 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:26 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:43 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:43 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:50 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 16:13 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 08:31 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 08:24 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:36 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 01:43 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:59 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:14 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 09:25 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 17:34 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:23 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:36 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 23:50 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 18:45 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 17:50 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 17:57 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 10:39 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 11:22 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 19:07 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 17:06 -0400
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-01 01:11 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 04:46 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:41 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 06:09 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 14:42 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 11:56 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-02 03:45 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 04:57 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 01:25 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 23:47 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 14:55 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:25 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 11:47 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 15:16 -0400
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 20:02 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 12:44 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 15:55 -0400
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 20:09 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 23:24 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 04:52 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 07:20 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 12:37 -0400
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-04 14:24 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 00:02 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-05 12:29 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 19:32 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 17:24 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 17:14 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-05 00:48 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 08:13 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 10:14 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 18:57 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-06 04:16 +0000
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 00:25 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 01:36 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-04 17:58 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 03:54 -0700
Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 19:59 -0700
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 09:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <007bc25e-8246-47e7-9493-01ca738e13f9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #695882 |
MM “Oh that's right, you don't have even a model, so you couldn't predict anything! ” The basic predictions of the Universal Fractal Galaxy Model for the Atom are that galaxies precess TWICE as fast as they rotate and thus sweep out a sphere once one way and once the other per rotation And Atoms are DISCS that sweep out their sphere twice per rotation (about every 100 attoseconds) So that’s not a prediction is it?
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 09:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <485ac6e6-42d6-4e64-ad41-a04f61d2ef0a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #695884 |
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:14:52 AM UTC-7, john wrote: > MM > “Oh that's > right, you don't have even a model, so you couldn't predict anything! ” > The basic predictions of the Universal Fractal Galaxy Model for the Atom are that > galaxies precess TWICE as fast as they rotate and thus sweep out a sphere once one way and once the other per rotation > And > Atoms are DISCS that sweep out their sphere twice per rotation (about every 100 attoseconds) > > So that’s not a prediction is it? Galaxies don't rotate. The stars orbit a gravity center. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 17:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pjfl3r$n2r$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #695884 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >"Oh that's >right, you don't have even a model, so you couldn't predict anything! " >The basic predictions of the Universal Fractal Galaxy Model for the Atom >are that galaxies precess TWICE as fast as they rotate and thus sweep out >a sphere once one way and once the other per rotation >So that's not a prediction is it? Not in this case. It's more like "Star S2 has been observed here and moving at speed V that way, and the black hole of mass X is there, we plug in the numbers into the formulas that are part of our model, and we predict at time Y the star will be over there moving at velocity Z, and we'll observe redshift R as it reaches close approach at time T with velocity U." Something like that. Where are your predictions of that form? Doesn't have to be specific to S2 or the galactic center. How about something like this: "If the Milky Way really is all retarded and precessing, the math formula of my model predicts the star Sirius will start to accelerate this way and reach velocity X over the next year." BTW still waiting for the source of the enormous torque needed to precess a galaxy like the Milky Way. And how do you explain something like a 2:1 prcession for something that doesn't even rotate as a unit??
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 11:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3be0296a-630e-463a-9128-0a47837c2faa@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #695904 |
MM “BTW still waiting for the source of the enormous torque needed to precess a galaxy like..” I said what I said. Wait
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 11:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e1a98bed-2fc8-48aa-9435-a34d9346b662@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #695913 |
By the way: Fatio and LeSage may have presented the framework in Push Gravity, but I have explained the players. Because of their enormous acceleration at all times, electrons constantly emit a MUCH FINER radiation than our emr- 10^31 times higher in frequency, 10^31 times smaller in energy, 10^31 times more numerous, and travelling 9 times as fast. These qualities check all the right boxes for LeSage and Fatio’s “ultramundane particles. They are absorbed by protons, and the matter doesn’t heat up, and the electrons don’t crash, because the proton cycles the back to its electron- which is why electrons so desperately need one.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 23:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pjgb4b$p9a$5@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #695917 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >By the way: Fatio and LeSage may have presented the framework in Push >Gravity, but I have explained the players. >Because of their enormous acceleration at all times, electrons constantly >emit a MUCH FINER radiation than our emr- 10^31 times higher in <babble babble babble> So you still don't understand why LeSage gravity can't work. BTW, don't miss this: it sounds almost like it was written especially for you. https://curiosity.com/topics/how-do-we-know-dark-matter-really-exists-curiosity/
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 18:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0d5424b3-fcaa-4d00-85c0-466e7d352894@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #695917 |
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:36:29 PM UTC+3, john wrote: > By the way: Fatio and LeSage may have presented the framework in Push Gravity, but I have explained the players. > Because of their enormous acceleration at all times, electrons constantly emit a MUCH FINER radiation than our emr- 10^31 times higher in frequency, 10^31 times smaller in energy, 10^31 times more numerous, and travelling 9 times as fast. > These qualities check all the right boxes for LeSage and Fatio’s “ultramundane particles. > They are absorbed by protons, and the matter doesn’t heat up, and the electrons don’t crash, because the proton cycles the back to its electron- which is why electrons so desperately need one. ======================= ok now i have to admit that I didn't study about dark matter that did not disturb me to find that ===================================== ALL FORCES ARE ONLY **PUSH FORCES** !!! but still I have an important question :!! that is more meaning full : ========================================= DOES DARK ,ATER IS*** MORE DENSE** IN THE vicinity OF BIG MASSES !!?? ======================================= TIA Y.Porat ========================== TIA Y.Porat
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-07-30 17:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3502e30f-4c0a-4987-b7fb-085ac1b07baf@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #695981 |
On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 4:46:00 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:36:29 PM UTC+3, john wrote: > > By the way: Fatio and LeSage may have presented the framework in Push Gravity, but I have explained the players. > > Because of their enormous acceleration at all times, electrons constantly emit a MUCH FINER radiation than our emr- 10^31 times higher in frequency, 10^31 times smaller in energy, 10^31 times more numerous, and travelling 9 times as fast. > > These qualities check all the right boxes for LeSage and Fatio’s “ultramundane particles. > > They are absorbed by protons, and the matter doesn’t heat up, and the electrons don’t crash, because the proton cycles the back to its electron- which is why electrons so desperately need one. > ======================= > ok > now i have to admit that I didn't study about dark matter > that did not disturb me to find that > ===================================== > ALL FORCES ARE ONLY **PUSH FORCES** !!! > > but still I have an important question :!! > that is more meaning full : > ========================================= > DOES DARK ,ATER IS*** MORE DENSE** > IN THE vicinity OF BIG MASSES !!?? > ======================================= > > TIA > Y.Porat > ========================== > > TIA > Y.Porat ======================= any answer for the above question ?? =================== TIA Y.P =======================
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-07-30 17:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <eaf3db6f-a7e4-4c8a-9c01-b15256a2fd4c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #696411 |
On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:50:23 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 4:46:00 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:36:29 PM UTC+3, john wrote: > > > By the way: Fatio and LeSage may have presented the framework in Push Gravity, but I have explained the players. > > > Because of their enormous acceleration at all times, electrons constantly emit a MUCH FINER radiation than our emr- 10^31 times higher in frequency, 10^31 times smaller in energy, 10^31 times more numerous, and travelling 9 times as fast. > > > These qualities check all the right boxes for LeSage and Fatio’s “ultramundane particles. > > > They are absorbed by protons, and the matter doesn’t heat up, and the electrons don’t crash, because the proton cycles the back to its electron- which is why electrons so desperately need one. > > ======================= > > ok > > now i have to admit that I didn't study about dark matter > > that did not disturb me to find that > > ===================================== > > ALL FORCES ARE ONLY **PUSH FORCES** !!! > > > > but still I have an important question :!! > > that is more meaning full : > > ========================================= > > DOES DARK ,ATER IS*** MORE DENSE** > > IN THE vicinity OF BIG MASSES !!?? > > ======================================= > > > > TIA > > Y.Porat > > ========================== > > > > TIA > > Y.Porat > ======================= > any answer for the above question ?? > =================== > TIA > Y.P > ======================= There is inertia and forces change it. Forces speed up or slow down matter. No absolute rest means perpetual motion with no inertial frames. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-07-31 10:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8af7b297-806a-42c3-b328-88859cb6d5d7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #696415 |
On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 3:57:04 AM UTC+3, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:50:23 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 4:46:00 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:36:29 PM UTC+3, john wrote: > > > > By the way: Fatio and LeSage may have presented the framework in Push Gravity, but I have explained the players. > > > > Because of their enormous acceleration at all times, electrons constantly emit a MUCH FINER radiation than our emr- 10^31 times higher in frequency, 10^31 times smaller in energy, 10^31 times more numerous, and travelling 9 times as fast. > > > > These qualities check all the right boxes for LeSage and Fatio’s “ultramundane particles. > > > > They are absorbed by protons, and the matter doesn’t heat up, and the electrons don’t crash, because the proton cycles the back to its electron- which is why electrons so desperately need one. > > > ======================= > > > ok > > > now i have to admit that I didn't study about dark matter > > > that did not disturb me to find that > > > ===================================== > > > ALL FORCES ARE ONLY **PUSH FORCES** !!! > > > > > > but still I have an important question :!! > > > that is more meaning full : > > > ========================================= > > > DOES DARK ,ATER IS*** MORE DENSE** > > > IN THE vicinity OF BIG MASSES !!?? > > > ======================================= > > > > > > TIA > > > Y.Porat > > > ========================== > > > > > > TIA > > > Y.Porat > > ======================= > > any answer for the above question ?? > > =================== > > TIA > > Y.P > > ======================= > > There is inertia and forces change it. > Forces speed up or slow down matter. > No absolute rest means perpetual motion > with no inertial frames. > > Mitchell Raemsch ================ but how is that push force acting ?? TIA Y.Porat ===================
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-31 11:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0de91d8b-53ec-4246-b23c-87d3709475d8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #696509 |
Porat “but how is that push force acting ?? TIA Y.“ Fractal neutrinos
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-31 19:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pjqc2b$ubv$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #696511 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Porat > “but how is that push force acting ?? > TIA > Y.“ > > Fractal neutrinos > Whatever the fuck John means by “fractal” and “neutrinos”, neither of which will correspond to what scientists mean by those words. They are for John just shiny-penny words that are fun to say. Like “gila vacuoles”. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-31 17:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pjqj0c$1akd$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #696520 |
On 7/31/2018 3:07 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >> Porat >> “but how is that push force acting ?? >> TIA >> Y.“ >> >> Fractal neutrinos >> > > Whatever the fuck John means by “fractal” and “neutrinos”, neither of which > will correspond to what scientists mean by those words. They are for John > just shiny-penny words that are fun to say. Like “gila vacuoles”. > I'm pretty sure I had a case of gila vacuoles when I was a teenager. They make your face all ugly! Fractals on the other hand are real science like say behind the global warming scam. They cleverly used Nile-like statistics to try to fool the but they waited too long and their lies caught up with them and they had to do a quick pivot to "climate change". I'm sure none of the "journalists" here have a clue what I"m talking about while those people that do are in on the scam and don't dare talk about it.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-08-01 01:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pjr1ba$obq$4@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #696520 |
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes: >john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: >> Porat >> “but how is that push force acting ?? >> TIA >> Y.“ >> >> Fractal neutrinos >> >Whatever the fuck John means by “fractal” and “neutrinos”, neither of which >will correspond to what scientists mean by those words. They are for John >just shiny-penny words that are fun to say. Like “gila vacuoles”. A small bite of John's famous word salad.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-01 04:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <92406369-6638-4fb2-af09-ad44029fab34@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #696567 |
MM “ A small bite of John's famous word salad. ” Meanwhile, in Michael’s world of him and Odd against the kooks, Fatio is now one of the kooks for his push gravity idea. Fatio was a good friend of Isaac Newton and collaborated with him and Leibniz in inventing the Calculus. He also was first to explain Zodiacal Light. When you no longer value logic, you end up on the other side of the fence from real science
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-01 12:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pjs9qe$bl$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #696593 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > MM > “ > > A small bite of John's famous word salad. ” > > Meanwhile, in Michael’s world of him and Odd against the kooks, Fatio is > now one of the kooks for his push gravity idea. > Fatio was a good friend of Isaac Newton and collaborated with him and > Leibniz in inventing the Calculus. He also was first to explain Zodiacal Light. > > When you no longer value logic, you end up on the other side of the fence from real science > You talk funny. Your term “fractal neutrinos” means as much as your term “logic”. You may have something in mind with those words but it bears no resemblance to what most other people mean by those words. So when you say “value logic”, what EXACTLY do you mean by “logic” there? -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-01 06:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <764fa1d5-e8ec-478f-b024-ba52f639dfbe@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #696601 |
Odd “So when you say “value logic”, what EXACTLY do you mean by “logic” there” New ideas require new terms. No one has suggested emr radiations that re-occur in mini form to accompany Fractal-recurring matter before. Have they? So call them Fractal neutrinos. Logical. It’s like when you say the ‘spin’ of matter is not spin as we know it, and then say my spinning/precessing pathway has never been known to happen, and then choose ‘no structure’ versus ‘structure not yet seen’ when no structure has never yet been seen. You’re just contrary
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-01 14:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pjsgtj$djf$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #696603 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “So when you say “value logic”, what EXACTLY do you mean by “logic” there” > > New ideas require new terms. > No one has suggested emr radiations that re-occur in mini form to accompany > Fractal-recurring matter before. Have they? So call them Fractal neutrinos. Logical. What do you mean by fractal, John? For example you use “fractal layer” a lot but that’s not a real term in fractal mathematics. Perhaps you mean something else and are just hijacking a term. What I suggest, instead, is that you use TAWD for Turtles All the Way Down because that way you won’t be mangling some term you don’t understand. > > It’s like when you say the ‘spin’ of matter is not spin as we know it, > and then say my spinning/precessing pathway has never been known to > happen, and then choose ‘no structure’ versus ‘structure not yet seen’ > when no structure has never yet been seen. You’re just contrary > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-01 11:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d08004e6-6339-4913-adbc-7730e9550957@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #696603 |
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:09:16 PM UTC+3, john wrote: > Odd > “So when you say “value logic”, what EXACTLY do you mean by “logic” there” > > New ideas require new terms. > No one has suggested emr radiations that re-occur in mini form to accompany Fractal-recurring matter before. Have they? So call them Fractal neutrinos. Logical. > > It’s like when you say the ‘spin’ of matter is not spin as we know it, and then say my spinning/precessing pathway has never been known to happen, and then choose ‘no structure’ versus ‘structure not yet seen’ when no structure has never yet been seen. You’re just contrary ============================== indeed spin is nothing as we know as spin if you take the 'spin of silver as in the famous experiment it is because Silver has an **edge orbital**that is directed sideways so it can ne diverted 50 percent to one side in the magnetic field or to the other symmetric side 50 percent probability to each antimetric side (the stream of silver ions is split to 2 symmetric streams my model of Silver shows it clearly tangibly !! 2 it has nothing to do with my op post !! about push forces !! ===== TIA Y.P ============================
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| From | poraty6@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-02 03:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <782dafde-4cee-4448-b786-cdfc70cbb560@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #696642 |
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:56:50 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:09:16 PM UTC+3, john wrote: > > Odd > > “So when you say “value logic”, what EXACTLY do you mean by “logic” there” > > > > New ideas require new terms. > > No one has suggested emr radiations that re-occur in mini form to accompany Fractal-recurring matter before. Have they? So call them Fractal neutrinos. Logical. > > > > It’s like when you say the ‘spin’ of matter is not spin as we know it, and then say my spinning/precessing pathway has never been known to happen, and then choose ‘no structure’ versus ‘structure not yet seen’ when no structure has never yet been seen. You’re just contrary > ============================== > indeed > > spin is nothing as we know as spin > if you take the 'spin of silver as in the famous experiment it is because Silver has an > **edge orbital**that is directed sideways so it can ne > diverted 50 percent to one side in the magnetic field > or to the other symmetric side > 50 percent probability to each antimetric side > (the stream of silver ions > is split to 2 symmetric streams > my model of Silver > shows it clearly tangibly !! > 2 > it has nothing to do with my op post !! > about push forces !! > ===== > TIA > Y.P > =========================== now =SEE ''HALIDAY AND RESNIK'' (famous physics book about magnetism and matter *!!! **** MATTER !!!!!!!! what is *matter**'doing here/there in a magnetic experiment WITH AN IRON RODD !! ??? --- (in my version it is about PSAGE 920) anyway you will see there a picture from a*** real experiment** !! real not a ''drawing'' from someone's imagination !! ==and you will see there some strange ***curved** force lines'' stemming in and out of that rod !! does it 'click' something in your head (provided you have one ..!!?? ======= TIA Y.Porat =============================
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