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IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !!

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  IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 01:09 -0700
    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 01:14 -0700
      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 05:43 -0700
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 06:00 -0700
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 07:53 -0700
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! nobody@invalid.invalid - 2018-07-26 11:56 -0400
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 09:08 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 14:07 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:28 -0700
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:02 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 21:45 +0000
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:36 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:05 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:38 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 18:50 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 03:08 +0000
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 21:27 -0700
                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 21:34 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 04:43 +0000
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 21:51 -0700
                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 05:08 +0000
                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 22:35 -0700
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 22:41 -0700
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:59 -0700
                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 21:49 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 23:05 -0700
                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 00:05 -0700
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 01:22 -0700
                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:02 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 14:59 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:26 -0700
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:43 +0000
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:43 +0000
                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:50 -0700
                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 16:13 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 08:31 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 08:24 -0700
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:36 +0000
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 01:43 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:59 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:14 -0700
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 09:25 -0700
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 17:34 +0000
                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:23 -0700
                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:36 -0700
                                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 23:50 +0000
                                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 18:45 -0700
                                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 17:50 -0700
                                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 17:57 -0700
                                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 10:39 -0700
                                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 11:22 -0700
                                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 19:07 +0000
                                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 17:06 -0400
                                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-01 01:11 +0000
                                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 04:46 -0700
                                                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:41 +0000
                                                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 06:09 -0700
                                                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 14:42 +0000
                                                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 11:56 -0700
                                                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-02 03:45 -0700
                                                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 04:57 -0700
                                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 01:25 -0700
                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 23:47 +0000
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 14:55 +0000
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:25 -0700
    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 11:47 -0700
      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 15:16 -0400
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 20:02 -0700
      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 12:44 -0700
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 15:55 -0400
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 20:09 -0700
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 23:24 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 04:52 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 07:20 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 12:37 -0400
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-04 14:24 -0700
                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 00:02 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-05 12:29 -0700
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 19:32 +0000
                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 17:24 -0700
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 17:14 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-05 00:48 +0000
                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 08:13 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 10:14 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 18:57 +0000
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-06 04:16 +0000
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 00:25 -0700
                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-08-06 01:36 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-04 17:58 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 03:54 -0700
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#695834

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-07-27 05:08 +0000
Message-ID<pje9br$a2j$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#695833
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"I have, but know little about that.
>"
>The failing gravity theory these days  can't find its invisible heavy stuff.

So Fatio's failed gravity theory also had invisible heavy stuff? I know
about the ultramundane particles which would be invisible, but didn't know
they were heavy, too.  Maybe if he pursued the invisible heavy stuff he
could have theorized dark matter and he would have been centuries ahead of 
his time!

>Maybe the five year olds were wrong, Michael

So John, how does it feel that five year olds know more about dark matter
than you do?

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#695836

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-26 22:35 -0700
Message-ID<ddf9f814-fc32-4517-9ac8-d701911bb32b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695834
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 8:08:14 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >MM
> >"I have, but know little about that.
> >"
> >The failing gravity theory these days  can't find its invisible heavy stuff.
> 
> So Fatio's failed gravity theory also had invisible heavy stuff? I know
> about the ultramundane particles which would be invisible, but didn't know
> they were heavy, too.  Maybe if he pursued the invisible heavy stuff he
> could have theorized dark matter and he would have been centuries ahead of 
> his time!
> 
> >Maybe the five year olds were wrong, Michael
> 
> So John, how does it feel that five year olds know more about dark matter
> than you do?
==============================
and more about my y circlon mechanism 

 did it net myself without knowing anything about any
Facio ''
much more over !!
I recruit  it 
AGAINST F EN CURVD SPACE AS A FACTOR IN 
GRAVITY !!!
more over
if you follow my above historic link 
and book !
my inner structure  of Atom and nucleus 
is compatible with 
the 
 ALL PUSH ' THEORY 
SEE   my link 

http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an/abstract
at its appendix  !!!!!
as the 
Y.Circlon mechanism  as well !

as an '' attraction force maker ''

John

IS THAT PRECEDENTED AS WELL ??
by Facio 
===================================
TIA
Y.Porat
==========================





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#695837

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-26 22:41 -0700
Message-ID<23757cef-2350-4cf1-90ee-8c5834011252@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695836
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 8:35:13 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 8:08:14 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> > 
> > >MM
> > >"I have, but know little about that.
> > >"
> > >The failing gravity theory these days  can't find its invisible heavy stuff.
> > 
> > So Fatio's failed gravity theory also had invisible heavy stuff? I know
> > about the ultramundane particles which would be invisible, but didn't know
> > they were heavy, too.  Maybe if he pursued the invisible heavy stuff he
> > could have theorized dark matter and he would have been centuries ahead of 
> > his time!
> > 
> > >Maybe the five year olds were wrong, Michael
> > 
> > So John, how does it feel that five year olds know more about dark matter
> > than you do?
> ==============================
> and more about my y circlon mechanism 
> 
>  did it net myself without knowing anything about any
> Facio ''
> much more over !!
> I recruit  it 
> AGAINST F EN CURVD SPACE AS A FACTOR IN 
> GRAVITY !!!
> more over
> if you follow my above historic link 
> and book !
> my inner structure  of Atom and nucleus 
> is compatible with 
> the 
>  ALL PUSH ' THEORY 
> SEE   my link 
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an/abstract
> at its appendix  !!!!!
> as the 
> Y.Circlon mechanism  as well !
> 
> as an '' attraction force maker ''
> 
> John
> 
> IS THAT PRECEDENTED AS WELL ??
> by Facio 
> ===================================
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ==========================
typo !!
again  (I quote  just from my memory
any wrong ''pips'' and it fails to enter 

http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract 
at  its appendix 
====
TIA
Y.P
===========================

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#695986

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-27 19:59 -0700
Message-ID<9e19e010-e8d5-4a55-8934-5e9d3cf5d6f3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695836
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 10:35:13 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 8:08:14 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> > 
> > >MM
> > >"I have, but know little about that.
> > >"
> > >The failing gravity theory these days  can't find its invisible heavy stuff.
> > 
> > So Fatio's failed gravity theory also had invisible heavy stuff? I know
> > about the ultramundane particles which would be invisible, but didn't know
> > they were heavy, too.  Maybe if he pursued the invisible heavy stuff he
> > could have theorized dark matter and he would have been centuries ahead of 
> > his time!
> > 
> > >Maybe the five year olds were wrong, Michael
> > 
> > So John, how does it feel that five year olds know more about dark matter
> > than you do?
> ==============================
> and more about my y circlon mechanism 
> 
>  did it net myself without knowing anything about any
> Facio ''
> much more over !!
> I recruit  it 
> AGAINST F EN CURVD SPACE AS A FACTOR IN 
> GRAVITY !!!
> more over
> if you follow my above historic link 
> and book !
> my inner structure  of Atom and nucleus 
> is compatible with 
> the 
>  ALL PUSH ' THEORY 
> SEE   my link 
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an/abstract
> at its appendix  !!!!!
> as the 
> Y.Circlon mechanism  as well !
> 
> as an '' attraction force maker ''
> 
> John
> 
> IS THAT PRECEDENTED AS WELL ??
> by Facio 
> ===================================
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ==========================

Pull of gravity.No push of gravity.Bert

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#696001

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-27 21:49 -0700
Message-ID<49dc7056-53c2-4996-9655-d775bb680be7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695986
On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 5:59:05 AM UTC+3, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 10:35:13 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 8:08:14 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > >MM
> > > >"I have, but know little about that.
> > > >"
> > > >The failing gravity theory these days  can't find its invisible heavy stuff.
> > > 
> > > So Fatio's failed gravity theory also had invisible heavy stuff? I know
> > > about the ultramundane particles which would be invisible, but didn't know
> > > they were heavy, too.  Maybe if he pursued the invisible heavy stuff he
> > > could have theorized dark matter and he would have been centuries ahead of 
> > > his time!
> > > 
> > > >Maybe the five year olds were wrong, Michael
> > > 
> > > So John, how does it feel that five year olds know more about dark matter
> > > than you do?
> > ==============================
> > and more about my y circlon mechanism 
> > 
> >  did it net myself without knowing anything about any
> > Facio ''
> > much more over !!
> > I recruit  it 
> > AGAINST F EN CURVD SPACE AS A FACTOR IN 
> > GRAVITY !!!
> > more over
> > if you follow my above historic link 
> > and book !
> > my inner structure  of Atom and nucleus 
> > is compatible with 
> > the 
> >  ALL PUSH ' THEORY 
> > SEE   my link 
> > 
> > http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an/abstract
> > at its appendix  !!!!!
> > as the 
> > Y.Circlon mechanism  as well !
> > 
> > as an '' attraction force maker ''
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > IS THAT PRECEDENTED AS WELL ??
> > by Facio 
> > ===================================
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ==========================
> 
> Pull of gravity.No push of gravity.Bert
===========================
block!!head old farth 
---
Next !! 
to more clever THIKING !   people 
===
Y.P
=======================

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#696009

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-27 23:05 -0700
Message-ID<ec856da6-1813-4acb-a0f3-55e3dc064ca5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#696001
On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 7:49:24 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 5:59:05 AM UTC+3, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 10:35:13 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 8:08:14 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> > > > 
> > > > >MM
> > > > >"I have, but know little about that.
> > > > >"
> > > > >The failing gravity theory these days  can't find its invisible heavy stuff.
> > > > 
> > > > So Fatio's failed gravity theory also had invisible heavy stuff? I know
> > > > about the ultramundane particles which would be invisible, but didn't know
> > > > they were heavy, too.  Maybe if he pursued the invisible heavy stuff he
> > > > could have theorized dark matter and he would have been centuries ahead of 
> > > > his time!
> > > > 
> > > > >Maybe the five year olds were wrong, Michael
> > > > 
> > > > So John, how does it feel that five year olds know more about dark matter
> > > > than you do?
> > > ==============================
> > > and more about my y circlon mechanism 
> > > 
> > >  did it net myself without knowing anything about any
> > > Facio ''
> > > much more over !!
> > > I recruit  it 
> > > AGAINST F EN CURVD SPACE AS A FACTOR IN 
> > > GRAVITY !!!
> > > more over
> > > if you follow my above historic link 
> > > and book !
> > > my inner structure  of Atom and nucleus 
> > > is compatible with 
> > > the 
> > >  ALL PUSH ' THEORY 
> > > SEE   my link 
> > > 
> > > http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an/abstract
> > > at its appendix  !!!!!
> > > as the 
> > > Y.Circlon mechanism  as well !
> > > 
> > > as an '' attraction force maker ''
> > > 
> > > John
> > > 
> > > IS THAT PRECEDENTED AS WELL ??
> > > by Facio 
> > > ===================================
> > > TIA
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ==========================
> > 
> > Pull of gravity.No push of gravity.Bert
> ===========================
> block!!head old farth 
> ---
> Next !! 
> to more clever THIKING !   people 
> ===
> Y.P
> =======================

even the farth s that you are doing here 
are 
push force ..

the force that is driving your car is ..

-push
or pull ??
forces ??
====
Y.P
=====================

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#695841

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-27 00:05 -0700
Message-ID<4937a70b-d96c-4969-a07d-1c633cc41af9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695834
MM
“So John, how does it feel that five year olds know more about dark matter 
than you do?”
Still haven’t found any.
Observations of satellite galaxies congregated in the same plane makes it EVEN less likely (hard to do)

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#695845

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-27 01:22 -0700
Message-ID<35895dd1-6140-4da8-992a-1592df12ccaa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695841
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 10:05:10 AM UTC+3, john wrote:
> MM
> “So John, how does it feel that five year olds know more about dark matter 
> than you do?”
> Still haven’t found any.
> Observations of satellite galaxies congregated in the same plane makes it EVEN less likely (hard to do)

======================
who wrote that last  post ??
it is not clear ??

=====
Y.P
======================

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#695869

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-27 06:02 -0700
Message-ID<c5fe8620-0b4c-42c4-b763-33cc41ffc067@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695845
Porat 
“who wrote that last  post ?? 
it is not clear ?? 
”
I did .
I’ll make it clear.

DM idiots imagine a spherical cloud of DM around galaxies- that is what is needed to “save” their idiotic swarming gravitrons, warped Space, Suck Gravity, Black Hole- predicting embarrassment of a gravity theory.

Unfortunately, satellite galaxies are now shown to occupy an ecliptic plane like planets around a sun.

The stupid ones are still defending it- Odd, MM, ed ed ed
(Still impressed with ed’s huge mushroom intake- maybe he had  the wrong kind- 

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#695872

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-07-27 14:59 +0000
Message-ID<pjfc11$e2$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#695869
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>DM idiots imagine a spherical cloud of DM around galaxies- that is what is
>needed to "save" their idiotic swarming gravitrons, warped Space, Suck 
>Gravity, Black Hole- predicting embarrassment of a gravity theory.

Still don't understand "invisible heavy stuff", I see. Too bad the five
year olds all hide from you.

>Unfortunately, satellite galaxies are now shown to occupy an ecliptic plane
> like planets around a sun.

Why is that "unfortunate"? Does it spell doom for aliens living on
planets in those galaxies for some reason? (Explain!)

>The stupid ones are still defending it- Odd, MM, ed ed ed

Yet you can't explain your own beliefs at all! Are you afraid we'll think
you're stupid if you do? (too late!)

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#695876

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-27 08:26 -0700
Message-ID<ca364827-896c-4908-a80d-123c31f80b95@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695872
MM
“>Unfortunately, satellite galaxies are now shown to occupy an ecliptic plane 
> like planets around a sun. 

Why is that "unfortunate"? Does it spell doom for aliens living on 
planets in tho”
Like Odd, you couldn’t follow a train of thought if it had actual permanent tracks behind it.
Your mythical DM must be in a spherical cloud around a galaxy to work. This is a position that has been taken, Michael. Now, to find satellites all in the same plane is very much NOT symmetrical, Michael.
Now, I know you prescribe to the “there is no pattern”, “there is no underlying structure “ crowd, but I’m sure you’re not at the “flat is the same as round” stage.
Although you’re close

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#695879

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-27 15:43 +0000
Message-ID<pjfej4$1re0$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#695876
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> MM
>> Unfortunately, satellite galaxies are now shown to occupy an ecliptic plane 
>> like planets around a sun. 
> 
> Why is that "unfortunate"? Does it spell doom for aliens living on 
> planets in tho”
> Like Odd, you couldn’t follow a train of thought if it had actual
> permanent tracks behind it.
> Your mythical DM must be in a spherical cloud around a galaxy to work. 

That is an incorrect statement and I have no idea why you think this is so.


What IS true is that the distribution of dark matter doesn’t have the same
shape as the distribution of luminous matter. And the question that follows
from that is SO WHAT?

> This is a position that has been taken, Michael. Now, to find satellites
> all in the same plane is very much NOT symmetrical, Michael.

That’s true. Notice that in an irregular galaxy, even the stars are not
arranged in a spherical distribution. So why do you think that a
nonspherical distribution of satellites spells trouble for what the
distribution of dark matter is?? 

> Now, I know you prescribe to the “there is no pattern”, “there is no
> underlying structure “ crowd, but I’m sure you’re not at the “flat is the
> same as round” stage.

The distribution of satellites has as much to to with the distribution of
dark matter as the distribution of spiral arms has to go with the
distribution of dark matter. Namely, nothing. 

> Although you’re close
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#695880

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-07-27 15:43 +0000
Message-ID<pjfej7$pk4$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#695876
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Your mythical DM must be in a spherical cloud around a galaxy to work.

Let's assume that is true (I don't know in detail).

> This is a position that has been taken, Michael. Now, to find 
> satellites all in the same plane is very much NOT symmetrical, Michael.

Yeah, so? That is true of 3 galaxies so far. Plus why does the
distribution of galaxies matter to the distribution of DM? We know that
spiral galaxies have a central bulge and globular clusters that are NOT
in the plane of the galaxy.

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#695881

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-27 08:50 -0700
Message-ID<39f625ac-b5db-488c-8951-28177ef01b83@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695880
MM
“Plus why does the 
distribution of galaxies matter to the distribution of DM”
Nothing.
DM is totally mythical, unproven hogwash.
Computers have never been able to simulate what you say happens.
You’re idiots

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#695883

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-07-27 16:13 +0000
Message-ID<pjfgb9$agg$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#695881
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"Plus why does the
>distribution of galaxies matter to the distribution of DM"
>Nothing.
>DM is totally mythical, unproven hogwash.

You keep saying that but without proof.

>Computers have never been able to simulate what you say happens.
>You're idiots

What do you mean? Computer simulation is _exactly_ how they predict dark
matter! What they do is "We have this galaxy where visible matter predicts
a rotation pattern X. However, we see Rotation pattern Y. But if we put a
little invisible heavy stuff here, and some there, and a lot over there,
we get Rotation pattern Y! So there must be a little invisible heavy stuff
here, and some there, and a lot over there!"

Maybe they then said "I'm glad we talked to that five year old!"

And then: "Hey kid! What should we call that dark matter?" "Dark matter."

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#695877

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-27 08:31 -0700
Message-ID<81efaed4-6dd0-48cb-a3db-0dfabe5f3ab6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695872
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 5:59:48 PM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >DM idiots imagine a spherical cloud of DM around galaxies- that is what is
> >needed to "save" their idiotic swarming gravitrons, warped Space, Suck 
> >Gravity, Black Hole- predicting embarrassment of a gravity theory.
>================================== 
yes  indeed 
> Still don't understand "invisible heavy stuff"
and do you see 
curved space ??!!!!
--
that unseen stuff has mass
the only mass
yet it is special 
by moving naturally in a curved lines 
=============
,=================================

Y.Porat
============================
 I 

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#695875

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-27 08:24 -0700
Message-ID<697b3e7c-be2b-47a7-a9af-8cd523698a65@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695869
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 4:02:17 PM UTC+3, john wrote:
> Porat 
> “who wrote that last  post ?? 
> it is not clear ?? 
> ”
> I did .
> I’ll make it clear.
> 
> DM idiots imagine a spherical cloud of DM around galaxies- that is what is needed to “save” their idiotic swarming gravitrons, warped Space, Suck Gravity, Black Hole- predicting embarrassment of a gravity theory.
> 
> Unfortunately, satellite galaxies are now shown to occupy an ecliptic plane like planets around a sun.
> 
> The stupid ones are still defending it- Odd, MM, ed ed ed
> (Still impressed with ed’s huge mushroom intake- maybe he had  the wrong kind-
====================
thank you John my partner !

I could not  pose better !

2
we took it much further and revolutionary !!
ie against f en curved space :

if space  is nothing!!
it cannot act and curve force  lines of matter !!
curvature of force lines is 
A OOOPERTY OF NET MASS
NO NEED FOR ANYTING ELESE 
we see it(black on while'')  even in the experiments o  of    faraday about force lines of a permanent ### magnet
no  f en curved space there 
it is the natural movement of the stuff that is stemming and recycled **
from the magnet !!! 
=====   

TIA
Y.Porat
======================

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#695878

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-27 15:36 +0000
Message-ID<pjfe5d$1qoj$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#695875
<poraty6@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 4:02:17 PM UTC+3, john wrote:
>> Porat 
>> who wrote that last  post ?? 
>> it is not clear ?? 
>> 
>> I did .
>> Ill make it clear.
>> 
>> DM idiots imagine a spherical cloud of DM around galaxies- that is what
>> is needed to save their idiotic swarming gravitrons, warped Space,
>> Suck Gravity, Black Hole- predicting embarrassment of a gravity theory.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, satellite galaxies are now shown to occupy an ecliptic
>> plane like planets around a sun.
>> 
>> The stupid ones are still defending it- Odd, MM, ed ed ed
>> (Still impressed with eds huge mushroom intake- maybe he had  the wrong kind-
> ===================thank you John my partner !
> 
> I could not  pose better !
> 
> 2
> we took it much further and revolutionary !!
> ie against f en curved space :
> 
> if space  is nothing!!

And that presumption is wrong. 

> it cannot act and curve force  lines of matter !!
> curvature of force lines is 
> A OOOPERTY OF NET MASS
> NO NEED FOR ANYTING ELESE 
> we see it(black on while'')  even in the experiments o  of    faraday
> about force lines of a permanent ### magnet
> no  f en curved space there 
> it is the natural movement of the stuff that is stemming and recycled **
> from the magnet !!! 
> =====   
> 
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> =====================
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#696583

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-08-01 01:43 -0700
Message-ID<8a21c0ae-fe18-4a42-95cd-ca10365e6014@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695878
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 6:36:17 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <poraty6@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 4:02:17 PM UTC+3, john wrote:
> >> Porat 
> >>  who wrote that last  post ?? 
> >> it is not clear ?? 
> >>  
> >> I did .
> >> I ll make it clear.
> >> 
> >> DM idiots imagine a spherical cloud of DM around galaxies- that is what
> >> is needed to  save  their idiotic swarming gravitrons, warped Space,
> >> Suck Gravity, Black Hole- predicting embarrassment of a gravity theory.
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately, satellite galaxies are now shown to occupy an ecliptic
> >> plane like planets around a sun.
> >> 
> >> The stupid ones are still defending it- Odd, MM, ed ed ed
> >> (Still impressed with ed s huge mushroom intake- maybe he had  the wrong kind-
> > ===================thank you John my partner !
> > 
> > I could not  pose better !
> > 
> > 2
> > we took it much further and revolutionary !!
> > ie against f en curved space :
> > 
> > if space  is nothing!!
> 
> And that presumption is wrong. 

=======
piggy Bodkin !!!

now stick it again to your empty parroting  presumptions skull 
===
**had there   not been  locations of absolute empty space

NO MOTION WHATSOEVER COUD BE DONE !!!**
too   difficult for your parroting skull ??


got it blockhead presumptuous parrot ??

==
if you anonymous Bodkin  are a physics teacher?
you are a criminal against  mankind !!!

and I would recommend to dismiss you immediately !!!
==
Y.Porat
========================================




> 

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#695882

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-07-27 15:59 +0000
Message-ID<pjffh4$pk4$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#695869
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>DM idiots imagine a spherical cloud of DM around galaxies- that is what is 
>needed to "save" their idiotic swarming gravitrons, warped Space, Suck 
Gravity, Black Hole- predicting embarrassment of a gravity theory.

Hey John, did you see this? 
"First successful test of Einstein's general relativity near supermassive 
black hole (Update)"

https://phys.org/news/2018-07-gravity-relativity-galactic-centre-massive.html

The star S2 flies through the gravity well of the black hole at the center
of the galaxy at 3% of the speed of light. It confirms much of Einstein's
gravity theory and GR.

Pay attention to this part: 
"The team compared the position and velocity measurements from GRAVITY and 
SINFONI respectively, along with previous observations of S2 using other 
instruments, with the predictions of Newtonian gravity, general relativity 
and other theories of gravity. The new results are inconsistent with 
Newtonian predictions and in excellent agreement with the predictions of 
general relativity."

That's how science works, John. GR predicted one result, Newtonian
mechanics predicted a different result, and the results agreed with GR,
not Newtonian mechanics.  They didn't mention whether "other theories of
gravity" included your retarded precessing spinny things or not. Oh that's
right, you don't have even a model, so you couldn't predict anything!

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