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IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !!

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  IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 01:09 -0700
    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 01:14 -0700
      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 05:43 -0700
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 06:00 -0700
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 07:53 -0700
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! nobody@invalid.invalid - 2018-07-26 11:56 -0400
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 09:08 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 14:07 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:28 -0700
          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:02 -0700
            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 21:45 +0000
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:36 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:05 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:38 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 18:50 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 03:08 +0000
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 21:27 -0700
                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 21:34 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 04:43 +0000
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 21:51 -0700
                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 05:08 +0000
                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 22:35 -0700
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 22:41 -0700
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:59 -0700
                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 21:49 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 23:05 -0700
                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 00:05 -0700
                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 01:22 -0700
                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:02 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 14:59 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:26 -0700
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:43 +0000
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:43 +0000
                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:50 -0700
                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 16:13 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 08:31 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 08:24 -0700
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:36 +0000
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 01:43 -0700
                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 15:59 +0000
                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:14 -0700
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 09:25 -0700
                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 17:34 +0000
                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:23 -0700
                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:36 -0700
                                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 23:50 +0000
                                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 18:45 -0700
                                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 17:50 -0700
                                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 17:57 -0700
                                                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 10:39 -0700
                                                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 11:22 -0700
                                                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 19:07 +0000
                                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 17:06 -0400
                                                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-01 01:11 +0000
                                                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 04:46 -0700
                                                          Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:41 +0000
                                                            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 06:09 -0700
                                                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 14:42 +0000
                                                              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 11:56 -0700
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            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:25 -0700
    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 11:47 -0700
      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 15:16 -0400
        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-03 20:02 -0700
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            Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 04:52 -0700
              Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 07:20 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-08-04 12:37 -0400
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                  Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 00:02 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-08-05 12:29 -0700
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 19:32 +0000
                        Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 17:24 -0700
                      Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 17:14 -0700
                Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-05 00:48 +0000
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                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-08-05 10:14 -0700
                    Re: IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-05 18:57 +0000
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#695658 — IT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !!

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-26 01:09 -0700
SubjectIT IS NEVER 'PULL FORCES'- IT S WAYS PUSH FORCESS !!
Message-ID<88467eac-ce3d-4fd1-9a9e-ddac5362c545@googlegroups.com>
 if you study it carefully and  thoroughly
it is always 'at the end of the day ''  push forces !!

take for instance the mechanism that circles the blood
in your body 
it is push forces !


the  muscles of your belly push !! your diaphragm 
upwards 
it squeezes the blood in you lungs upwards to yo hearth 
and  in your hearth it is a similar story/mechanism 
based on  push
not on pull !!!
-----------
and  for us semi physicists ..(:-)
believe it or not 
even gravitation is the similar mechanism **in principle** !!
'''at the end  of the say''
 PUSH NOT PULL 
if you don't understand9
-ask !!!
===========================================================
TIA
Y.Porat
========================

 !! 



 

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#695659

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-26 01:14 -0700
Message-ID<7ffe1af7-b575-4218-b7b3-6bb9bef2548a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695658
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 11:09:46 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> if you study it carefully and  thoroughly
> it is always 'at the end of the day ''  push forces !!
> 
> take for instance the mechanism that circles the blood
> in your body 
> it is push forces !
> 
> 
> the  muscles of your belly push !! your diaphragm 
> upwards 
> it squeezes the blood in you lungs upwards to yo hearth 
> and  in your hearth it is a similar story/mechanism 
> based on  push
> not on pull !!!
> -----------
> and  for us semi physicists ..(:-)
> believe it or not 
> even gravitation is the similar mechanism **in principle** !!
> '''at the end  of the say''
>  PUSH NOT PULL 
> if you don't understand9
> -ask !!!
> ===========================================================
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ========================
> 
sorry typo of the title 
'always 
push forces not pull  forces 
(Google has no spellchecker for capital letters ?? why ??
===
Y.P
=================

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#695671

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 05:43 -0700
Message-ID<3ab80f13-e938-4fdf-9231-934fc27a00fa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695659
Porat 
“'always 
push forces not pull  forces 
“
You are absolutely correct.
Suck Gravity is the STUPIDEST thing ever.

It’s the mother of:
DM
BH
warped space
alternative Universe 
wormhole
swarming gravitrons 

and probably cousin to:
point particles 
fundamental particles 
distributed/delocalized electrons

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#695674

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-26 06:00 -0700
Message-ID<b31959b9-ebf3-4713-a200-308f40ee9bbe@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695671
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:43:33 PM UTC+3, john wrote:
> Porat 
> “'always 
> push forces not pull  forces 
> “
> You are absolutely correct.
> Suck Gravity is the STUPIDEST thing ever.
> 
> It’s the mother of:
> DM
> BH
> warped space
> alternative Universe 
> wormhole
> swarming gravitrons 
> 
> and probably cousin to:
> point particles 
> fundamental particles 
> distributed/delocalized electrons
=============================
thank you John my friend !!

btw
that is 
DM
BH


====================
TIA
Y/Porat
=================

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#695698

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-26 07:53 -0700
Message-ID<d7cfd7af-eadb-48f4-b74a-39cff8a8b114@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695674
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:00:56 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:43:33 PM UTC+3, john wrote:
> > Porat 
> > “'always 
> > push forces not pull  forces 
> > “
> > You are absolutely correct.
> > Suck Gravity is the STUPIDEST thing ever.
> > 
> > It’s the mother of:
> > DM
> > BH
> > warped space
> > alternative Universe 
> > wormhole
> > swarming gravitrons 
> > 
> > and probably cousin to:
> > point particles 
> > fundamental particles 
> > distributed/delocalized electrons
> =============================
> thank you John my friend !!
> 
> btw
> that is 
> DM
> BH
> 
> 
> ====================
> TIA
> Y/Porat
> =================

we discovered and  defined here
one of the most basic law of physics !!


our job is now
to convince others about  the importance of that basic law 
and the strength of its simplicity !!

TIA
Y.P
================================

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#695703

Fromnobody@invalid.invalid
Date2018-07-26 11:56 -0400
Message-ID<pjcqt8$s6a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#695671
On 7/26/2018 8:43 AM, john wrote:
> Porat
> “'always
> push forces not pull  forces
> “
> You are absolutely correct.

Oh wow. Two clueless kooks agreeing with each other! That will change 
physics forever!!

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#695704

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-26 09:08 -0700
Message-ID<85b78055-7979-440f-b391-013e2df1a8f9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695703
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 6:55:23 PM UTC+3, nob...@invalid.invalid wrote:
> On 7/26/2018 8:43 AM, john wrote:
> > Porat
> > “'always
> > push forces not pull  forces
> > “
> > You are absolutely correct.
> 
> Oh wow. Two clueless kooks agreeing with each other! That will change 
> physics forever!!
=============================
(:-)

you are in panic eh ??
may be  rightly so !!.. your  income and  job  is in danger ??

besides what is your real identity 
2
speak  physics arguments and examples 
 parroting handwaving is not enough 
----------------------------
TIA
Y.P
=====================





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#695758

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-07-26 14:07 -0700
Message-ID<21dc1dcf-df26-45f8-8cdc-09092dd3aaff@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695704
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 9:08:59 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 6:55:23 PM UTC+3, nob...@invalid.invalid wrote:
> > On 7/26/2018 8:43 AM, john wrote:
> > > Porat
> > > “'always
> > > push forces not pull  forces
> > > “
> > > You are absolutely correct.
> > 
> > Oh wow. Two clueless kooks agreeing with each other! That will change 
> > physics forever!!
> =============================
> (:-)
> 
> you are in panic eh ??
> may be  rightly so !!.. your  income and  job  is in danger ??
> 
> besides what is your real identity 
> 2
> speak  physics arguments and examples 
>  parroting handwaving is not enough 
> ----------------------------
> TIA
> Y.P
> =====================

Universal Inertia is push. autodynamics...
While you slow down you are still
inertial pushed forward but slower
Then you hit zero and change direction
going again forward but opposite in
dimensions two directions...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#695776

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-26 15:28 -0700
Message-ID<e81b21b3-117c-4e32-8ee9-44eb75dc2048@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695758
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 12:07:28 AM UTC+3, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 9:08:59 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 6:55:23 PM UTC+3, nob...@invalid.invalid wrote:
> > > On 7/26/2018 8:43 AM, john wrote:
> > > > Porat
> > > > “'always
> > > > push forces not pull  forces
> > > > “
> > > > You are absolutely correct.
> > > 
> > > Oh wow. Two clueless kooks agreeing with each other! That will change 
> > > physics forever!!
> > =============================
> > (:-)
> > 
> > you are in panic eh ??
> > may be  rightly so !!.. your  income and  job  is in danger ??
> > 
> > besides what is your real identity 
> > 2
> > speak  physics arguments and examples 
> >  parroting handwaving is not enough 
> > ----------------------------
> > TIA
> > Y.P
> > =====================
> 
> Universal Inertia is push. autodynamics...
> While you slow down you are still
> inertial pushed forward but slower
> Then you hit zero and change direction
> going again forward but opposite in
> dimensions two directions...
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
===============================
bravo !!!!
did you see my 
''Y Circlon  mechanism ''??
====
TUA
Y.P
===========================



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#695756

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 14:02 -0700
Message-ID<e6430119-fd77-450b-bd02-55a0725ad207@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695703
Nob 
“Oh wow. Two clueless kooks agreeing with each other! That will change 
physics forever!! ”
A couple of guys called Fabio and Le Sage came up with that idea first. I’m sure you would have to look them up, but won’t

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#695765

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-07-26 21:45 +0000
Message-ID<pjdfdq$oer$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#695756
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Nob 
>“Oh wow. Two clueless kooks agreeing with each other! That will cha>nge 
>physics forever!! ”
>A couple of guys called Fabio and Le Sage came up with that idea first. I>’m sure you would have to look them up, but won’t
>
Don't try to fool that poster with those discredited theories. You know
they are discredited and you (should) know why.

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#695781

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-26 15:36 -0700
Message-ID<5b15f4ec-e4ae-4229-86ad-4995b8a4fd47@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695765
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 12:45:34 AM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >Nob 
> >“Oh wow. Two clueless kooks agreeing with each other! That will cha>nge 
> >physics forever!! ”
> >A couple of guys called Fabio and Le Sage came up with that idea first. I>’m sure you would have to look them up, but won’t
> >
> Don't try to fool that poster with those discredited theories. You know
> they are discredited and you (should) know why.
=======================
while Galileo and Copernicus 
published their theory's/ findings 
they where sentenced to death !!

do you know/understand  why sentenced to death ??!!
why rulers of that time
where so afraid of it ??
do you think that mankind and rulers  changed much since then ??!!
==
TIA
Y.Porat
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#695806

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 18:05 -0700
Message-ID<8d8aa9e6-8b2b-4dd5-bd05-7f000dad2906@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695765
MM
“....discredited....”
**Nicolas Fatio de Duillier FRS (also spelled Faccio or Facio; 16 February 1664 – 12 May 1753) was a Swiss-born mathematician, natural philosopher, inventor, and religious campaigner. He spent much of his adult life in England and Holland. Fatio is known for his correct explanation of the astronomical phenomenon of zodiacal light, for first proposing the "push" or "shadow" theory of gravitation, for his close association with both Christiaan Huygens and Isaac Newton,[2] and for his role in the Newton v. Leibniz calculus controversy. He also invented and developed the first method for fabricating jewel bearings for mechanical watches and clocks.**

Yup!
Another of MMs kooks. One of Newton’s buds

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#695814

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 18:38 -0700
Message-ID<ef166b05-b371-46e0-8df0-f877ac45ae72@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695806
Oh, pshaw!!
Michael could’ve figured out zodiacal light if he had ever heard of it.

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#695817

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-07-26 18:50 -0700
Message-ID<d1ae15fd-03bd-4352-9238-17f60012b8dc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695806
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 6:05:04 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
> MM
> “....discredited....”
> **Nicolas Fatio de Duillier FRS (also spelled Faccio or Facio; 16 February 1664 – 12 May 1753) was a Swiss-born mathematician, natural philosopher, inventor, and religious campaigner. He spent much of his adult life in England and Holland. Fatio is known for his correct explanation of the astronomical phenomenon of zodiacal light, for first proposing the "push" or "shadow" theory of gravitation, 

Roy Masters do you still want to be famous for your push gravity?
You have went to far with it still...

Mitchell Raemsch

> for his close association with both Christiaan Huygens and Isaac Newton,[2] and for his role in the Newton v. Leibniz calculus controversy. He also invented and developed the first method for fabricating jewel bearings for mechanical watches and clocks.**
> 
> Yup!
> Another of MMs kooks. One of Newton’s buds

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#695823

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-07-27 03:08 +0000
Message-ID<pje2c6$rmb$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#695806
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"....discredited...."

Learn to read, John. And don't snip my quotes to the point where the
meaning is lost or changed. What I wrote was:

>>Don't try to fool that poster with those discredited theories. You know
>>they are discredited and you (should) know why.

The THEORY is discredited. Not the creators of the theory.

>**Nicolas Fatio de Duillier FRS (also spelled Faccio or Facio; 16 February

So Nicolas Fatio failed once by coming up with a flop of a theory. Hardly
his fault; his thinking was logical and he probably never could have
worked everything through to see why his theory was unworkable. It might
have been interesting to see if he and Newton argued how gravity worked,
evem though in the end Fatio should have listened to Newton more.
I see from what you quoted that he had a few accomplishments. Good for
him.

>Yup!
>Another of MMs kooks. One of Newton's buds

No kook. Just a mathematician who had a failed idea.

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#695829

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-26 21:27 -0700
Message-ID<75b79723-1fad-4588-b687-a406358f0e17@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695806
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 4:05:04 AM UTC+3, john wrote:
> MM
> “....discredited....”
> **Nicolas Fatio de Duillier FRS (also spelled Faccio or Facio; 16 February 1664 – 12 May 1753) was a Swiss-born mathematician, natural philosopher, inventor, and religious campaigner. He spent much of his adult life in England and Holland. Fatio is known for his correct explanation of the astronomical phenomenon of zodiacal light, for first proposing the "push" or "shadow" theory of gravitation, for his close association with both Christiaan Huygens and Isaac Newton,[2] and for his role in the Newton v. Leibniz calculus controversy. He also invented and developed the first method for fabricating jewel bearings for mechanical watches and clocks.**
> 
> Yup!
> Another of MMs kooks. One of Newton’s buds
========================
I published m y circlon mechanism 
at my book 
a model of the nucleus and Atom
American copy right
1993
in a most*** tangible way**
see
http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract

much more 
that rule of mine  as governing all nuclear and Atomic structure was the base
on my 

**chain of orbitals**
 in matter structure 
and inner forces inside Atoms and nuclei
actually 
my claim was and is 
that the chain of orbitals is
GOVERNING ALL CHMISTRY AS WELL !!

no one ever before  did  it  
see again the chain of orbitals in my above abstract
2
see as well in my  op post 
my Known or unknown explanation about 
how our breathing is done !!!
  
(no life without breathing ….just  push
no pull  in our breathing !)
and much wider in physics !!
and chemistry 

================
TIA
Y.Porat
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#695830

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 21:34 -0700
Message-ID<2dea9334-d411-46f3-8ad9-942ed64a0909@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695829
Nope Michael never heard of  Zodiacal light before.

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#695832

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-07-27 04:43 +0000
Message-ID<pje7tg$uma$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#695830
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Nope Michael never heard of  Zodiacal light before.

You haven't? I have, but know little about that.

But you should be talking about his failed gravity theory in this topic,
not his other successes.

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#695833

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 21:51 -0700
Message-ID<3d540060-3531-476e-b20d-eb9b9349621a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695832
MM
“I have, but know little about that. 
”
The failing gravity theory these days  can’t find its invisible heavy stuff. 
Maybe the five year olds were wrong, Michael

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