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Space is not empty- just invisible

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First post2018-07-18 06:49 -0700
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  Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 06:49 -0700
    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 14:12 +0000
      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 07:20 -0700
        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 14:22 +0000
          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 07:30 -0700
            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 07:54 -0700
            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 12:19 -0400
              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 16:37 +0000
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 09:56 -0700
                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 17:05 +0000
                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:27 -0400
                    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 22:57 +0000
                      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 19:27 -0400
                        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 01:33 +0000
                          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:54 -0700
                            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 12:54 +0000
                              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 10:47 -0400
                                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 15:23 +0000
                        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-18 22:32 -0700
                          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 11:01 -0400
                    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 09:52 -0700
                      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-20 10:25 -0700
                        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 12:05 -0700
                          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 14:14 -0700
                            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 18:30 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 12:58 -0400
                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 10:08 -0700
                    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 17:14 +0000
                      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:37 -0400
                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 17:08 +0000
                    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 10:17 -0700
                      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 17:26 +0000
                        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 10:33 -0700
                          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 10:37 -0700
                            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 10:44 -0700
                              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 10:48 -0700
                                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:43 +0000
                              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:42 +0000
                                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 19:14 -0400
                                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 01:33 +0000
                                    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 11:23 -0400
                                      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 15:34 +0000
                            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-18 18:14 +0000
                              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 11:16 -0700
                              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 11:19 -0700
                                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 11:39 -0700
                                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-18 18:44 +0000
                                    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 11:55 -0700
                                      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-18 19:16 +0000
                            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:42 +0000
                      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 11:06 -0700
                        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 11:11 -0700
                        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:43 +0000
                          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 19:15 -0400
                            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 01:33 +0000
                              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 11:25 -0400
                                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 15:39 +0000
                                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 14:37 -0700
                                    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 22:12 +0000
                                      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 16:53 -0700
                                        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-20 05:35 +0000
                    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 18:31 -0400
                      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 22:57 +0000
                        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 19:37 -0400
      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 12:16 -0400
    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-18 15:21 +0000
    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 10:58 -0700
    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 21:09 -0700
    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-20 00:16 -0500
      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-19 22:59 -0700
      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 05:50 -0700
        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 07:22 -0700
          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 07:58 -0700
            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 15:21 +0000
              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 08:31 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 16:54 +0000
              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-20 15:56 +0000
            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 09:59 -0700
              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 17:53 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 13:50 +0000
                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-21 14:45 +0000
                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 11:23 -0400
                    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:45 +0000
                      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 12:32 -0400
                        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 19:30 +0000
                          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 18:19 -0400
                            Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:32 -0700
                              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 22:40 +0000
                                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 22:05 -0700
                                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-22 05:11 +0000
                                    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 22:46 -0700
                                      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-21 22:56 -0700
                                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 05:35 -0700
                              Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 21:43 -0400
                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 09:23 -0700
                    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 12:48 -0700
                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 12:41 -0700
                    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 19:58 +0000
                      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 00:23 -0700
                        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 11:55 +0000
                        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-23 20:39 +0000
                          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-23 17:25 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 13:25 -0700
                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 14:47 -0700
                Re: Space is not empty- just invisible poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 20:16 -0700
                  Re: Space is not empty- just invisible mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 20:25 -0700
          Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 15:21 +0000
    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 13:15 -0700
      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-21 18:12 -0700
    Re: Space is not empty- just invisible Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-23 15:08 -0500
      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 17:47 -0400
        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 16:42 -0700
      Re: Space is not empty- just invisible john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 16:40 -0700
        Re: Space is not empty- just invisible benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 22:30 -0400

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#695212

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-07-23 20:39 +0000
Message-ID<pj5eed$3bq$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#695139
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd
>"
>No you cannot. Violates conservation of angular momentum. Steady precession=
>=20
>without external torque is impossible. High school physics.
>"
>When the precession is in sync with the rotation, it is possible.

No, it is not.

Angular momentum is a CONSERVED quantity. In a closed system, the total
angular momentum remains the same.

You can treat an isolated spinning whatever as a closed system.
Without external effects, it will spin forever with the same angular
momentum.

Angular momentum is typically represented as a vector (pseudovector), with
the dirction of the vector along the spin axis.  Both the magnitude and
direction of the vector are conserved.  If you try to precess the thing,
the magnitude remains the same but the direction (spin axis) rotates 360
degrees, over and over again, constantly changing the angular momentum
completely over one cycle. Ratio doesn't matter (other than 0:1, not
precessing at all), it cannot do that without an external torque forcing
the angular momentum to change constantly.

That's how gyroscopes work, they specifically resist changing their
axis of rotation at all, much less precess, because their angular
momentum is conserved.

(Constant gravity can initiate precession as seen with a child's toy
top. Angular momentum is transferred between the top and the earth)

>That is the exception.

No exceptions, you just pulled another "fact" from your butt again.

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#695287

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-07-23 17:25 -0700
Message-ID<1e18f40d-9b12-40ae-932c-25d9d9a1a586@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695212
On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 1:39:44 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >Odd
> >"
> >No you cannot. Violates conservation of angular momentum. Steady precession=
> >=20
> >without external torque is impossible. High school physics.
> >"
> >When the precession is in sync with the rotation, it is possible.
> 
> No, it is not.
> 
> Angular momentum is a CONSERVED quantity. In a closed system, the total
> angular momentum remains the same.
> 
> You can treat an isolated spinning whatever as a closed system.
> Without external effects, it will spin forever with the same angular
> momentum.
> 
> Angular momentum is typically represented as a vector (pseudovector), with
> the dirction of the vector along the spin axis.  Both the magnitude and
> direction of the vector are conserved.  If you try to precess the thing,
> the magnitude remains the same but the direction (spin axis) rotates 360
> degrees, over and over again, constantly changing the angular momentum
> completely over one cycle. Ratio doesn't matter (other than 0:1, not
> precessing at all), it cannot do that without an external torque forcing
> the angular momentum to change constantly.
> 
> That's how gyroscopes work, they specifically resist changing their
> axis of rotation at all, much less precess, because their angular
> momentum is conserved.
> 
> (Constant gravity can initiate precession as seen with a child's toy
> top. Angular momentum is transferred between the top and the earth)
> 
> >That is the exception.
> 
> No exceptions, you just pulled another "fact" from your butt again.

What happens to rotation when the rocket leaves the pad?
Rotation is a motion shared by us and rocket with the Earth.
There is new mathematical science of how rotation
is left behind leaving gravity field.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#694953

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-21 13:25 -0700
Message-ID<d52944bc-4d0e-48e5-b300-0f46c53dd7e3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#694863
On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 8:53:21 PM UTC-4, john wrote:
> ed ed ed
> 
> > WHY would you choose the option never seen before? 
> 
> that's the question you should be asking yourself. 
> “
> Atoms are difficult to examine, because they are so small and fast.
> So, do their constituents have structure?
> Your argument seems to be that since we cannot see structure
> for sure, then we must infer that there is no structure.

Exactly. Even the ancient greeks recognized that the division
of substance had to have a finite end point.

> But I say that since everything else has structure- the
> precedent has been set many times- then in this case we
> also cannot see that there ISN’T structure, so the default
> should be to assume there IS structure.

But when you go and look for it, it isn't there.
MANY Many many tests have been done on the electron
 to see if it has internal structure. Similar tests
have been done on the proton. Results so far have been:

Electron: no data indicating internal structure.
Proton: Data indicating internal structure. I consists
of 3 particles named quarks.

Science uses the best theory supported by the evidence.
No available evidence (experimental data) indicates
that electrons have an internal structure. This has been
true for over 100 years now. So a theory proposing
an internal structure has a tough road. It's just that
Nothing in the experimental data even hints at electrons
being anything other than one of the fundamental particles.

I suggest it is time you move on to something else.
If you truly are interested, there are many books available
on particle physics. It is a truly fascinating area. try
learning what physicists actually agree is the best description
of the subatomic world. It is confusing sometimes because
it is not like the macroscopic world. But all the properties
of the macroscopic world can be shown to emerge from the
current standard model.

Is the Standard model complete? no there will be improvements,
and possibly an entirely different structure. But that is
the excitement. We just have to wait for that data that
cannot be explained. We can speculate on alternative. You wildly
speculate that it might be another layer below. We have pointed
out how your speculation does not fit known physics.

It is nice to speculate sometimes. What is not nice is taking
a speculation and arguing that it "has to be right".

So lighten up. Your speculation was becoming an obsession.
Chill out and enjoy the many fascinating aspects of physics.
They are so much more interesting.

Suggestion: Since you enjoy the electron so much, read and
learn about the Muon.

Enjoy
  ed

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#694966

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-21 14:47 -0700
Message-ID<cc186599-0c35-4cb2-9350-e55c61cc2de2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#694953
ed ed ed
“
Is the Standard model complete? no there will be improvements, 
and possibly an entirely different structure. But that is 
the excitement. We just have to wait for that data that 
cannot be expl”
Well, with no DM in sight, and new telescopes showing  things that don’t match your screed, it won’t be long.

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#695027

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-21 20:16 -0700
Message-ID<c3fcfa84-af59-4e16-aada-8c34b885e0db@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#694863
On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 3:53:21 AM UTC+3, john wrote:
> ed ed ed
> 
> > WHY would you choose the option never seen before? 
> 
> that's the question you should be asking yourself. 
> “
> Atoms are difficult to examine, because they are so small and fast.
> So, do their constituents have structure?
> Your argument seems to be that since we cannot see structure for sure, then we must infer that there is no structure.
> But I say that since everything else has structure- the precedent has been set many times- then in this case we also cannot see that there ISN’T structure, so the default should be to assume there IS structure.

================================
you are more than    right 100 percent right !!!
see Google

http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract

indeed ** unprecedented** but it is there black on white
AND 3D!!!

provided that you are trained to  read 3D  on a flat  paper .
engineers are trained to it
not mumbles 
the nucleus has a very  very definite structure 
( unequivocal    order'' there or else we would be 
defused and dispersed  to the infinity at once!! ..
=========================
TIA
Eng ….
Y.Porat
==========

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#695028

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-07-21 20:25 -0700
Message-ID<a2fd9522-4940-4f66-9ad3-2e5007e7303d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695027
On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 8:16:35 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 3:53:21 AM UTC+3, john wrote:
> > ed ed ed
> > 
> > > WHY would you choose the option never seen before? 
> > 
> > that's the question you should be asking yourself. 
> > “
> > Atoms are difficult to examine, because they are so small and fast.
> > So, do their constituents have structure?
> > Your argument seems to be that since we cannot see structure for sure, then we must infer that there is no structure.
> > But I say that since everything else has structure- the precedent has been set many times- then in this case we also cannot see that there ISN’T structure, so the default should be to assume there IS structure.
> 
> ================================
> you are more than    right 100 percent right !!!
> see Google
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
> 
> indeed ** unprecedented** but it is there black on white
> AND 3D!!!
> 
> provided that you are trained to  read 3D  on a flat  paper .
> engineers are trained to it
> not mumbles 
> the nucleus has a very  very definite structure 
> ( unequivocal    order'' there or else we would be 
> defused and dispersed  to the infinity at once!! ..
> =========================
> TIA
> Eng ….
> Y.Porat
> ==========

Black holes drain into white holes through worm holes...
But that is absurdity. We don't observe that order.
Another science flunk out...
Science wants to hold fast to what has been disproven.
Just as the world of science had to judge its genius
Albert Einstein. But Einstein won them in history.
No one has to doubt it now...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#694773

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-20 15:21 +0000
Message-ID<pisulp$1gg2$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#694767
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> ed ed edha
> “John is on his recursive "its turtles all the way down" 
> tirades again. he has forgotten how to learn, so it 
> is better to just ignore him. 
> ”
> What’s to learn about ‘quantum foam’?
> 
> Who convinced you that things don’t need structure?
> That’s totally insane!!

Why is it totally insane? 
Because it is counter to your unsupported belief that all things have
structure, just because?

> Even the slight misplacement of a bolt in your car could crash you. And
> you guys think atoms- operating on timescales of 10^-16seconds- are random.
> 
> Totally.
> Bizarre.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#694952

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-21 13:15 -0700
Message-ID<712b9d30-ef2d-4da7-a32e-46fe61236d3f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#694446
On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 6:49:48 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
> Space is made from smaller-gauge matter that is too small to be seen by our emr. It is actually disturbances in this smaller-gauge sea of matter that ARE our emr.
> Nothing is nothing- even our science has SOME value if properly interpreted.

The most dynamic parts of the universe are eyes can not see.We understand stars of all types,but not the space between them.We know alot about particles but not the space around them,or inside them.Bert

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#694998

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-07-21 18:12 -0700
Message-ID<pj0llu$tst$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#694952
"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> <snip>
cuz everyone says Bert is wrong + a fool and not cool.
Bert has as a lame noodle that stinks like Bert's stool.
>
See SwineGlazier's Dossier:
<http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier-s-REAL-intent>
wherein SwineBert refuses to explain
why SwineBert's has posted these items in word & by name:
>
(1)
On 07Feb 2015 & on 08Feb2015, Face-Shitter Glazier wrote:
Harlow Campbell HVAC, Mr.HVAC@gmail.com,
& Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net
& Jacoby Benj, <nobody@gmail.com>:
"I'll be sitting on your faces to take a shit & say: "Open wide".
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
>
(2)
On 06Dec2014, when the Christian-Hater, JewPigBert Glazier
said to "benj" <nobody@gmail.com>:
"Reality is you always post under me for you are an ass kisser.
For Christmas I'll shit on your kisser."
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
"Benj, you can thank me in advance". - TreBert. ... addinng
>
(3)
On 03Aug2017:
"benj, you eat shit and your shitty brain is coming out your ears."
On 20Jul2018:
Benj, my posts are way over your head.Reality is your head
is up your ass.So fart it out before you get constipated.Bert
>
(4)
On 25Mar2008, Graveyard Vandal Glazier wrote in:
<https://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3ffe7b2257cf8a9a>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/uYtpFTRnW4k/morPVyJ7_j8J>
"Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have a good laugh
when it seeps down on your face". --  Bert
>
(5)
On 24Jun2018 SwineBert Glazier said to
Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> "your nose is
in a shit bucket all the time. Eat shit and you fit" -- Bert



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#695207

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-07-23 15:08 -0500
Message-ID<pj5ck2$14im$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#694446
On 7/18/2018 8:49 AM, john wrote:
> Space is made from smaller-gauge matter that is too small to be seen by our emr. It is actually disturbances in this smaller-gauge sea of matter that ARE our emr.
> Nothing is nothing- even our science has SOME value if properly interpreted.
> 


but nothing IS something !

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#695236

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-23 17:47 -0400
Message-ID<pj5icj$1fv6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#695207
On 7/23/2018 4:08 PM, Sergio wrote:
> On 7/18/2018 8:49 AM, john wrote:
>> Space is made from smaller-gauge matter that is too small to be seen by our emr. It is actually disturbances in this smaller-gauge sea of matter that ARE our emr.
>> Nothing is nothing- even our science has SOME value if properly interpreted.
>>
> 
> 
> but nothing IS something !
> 

Since nothing at all has the property of being completely devoid of 
anything that means that nothing has properties and therefore is 
something! We'd better get a discussion out of Boinker on this 
conundrum! This is his kind of science thinking!

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#695276

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-23 16:42 -0700
Message-ID<2df3b8eb-d77d-48bc-8de3-029027e6e04c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695236
benj
“We'd better get a discussion out of Boinker on this 
conundrum! This is his kind of science thinking! 
”
Yesyes 
Odd Odd Odd!!!
Speak!

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#695275

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-23 16:40 -0700
Message-ID<7edea054-3708-4de8-94ed-1728814c65f7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#695207
Sergio
“nothing IS something ! ”
Hahahaha 

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#695317

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-23 22:30 -0400
Message-ID<pj62vb$ajt$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#695275
On 7/23/2018 7:40 PM, john wrote:
> Sergio
> “nothing IS something ! ”
> Hahahaha
> 
And even more importantly, John, in media politics today something is 
also nothing. Works for climate change too.

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