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  Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 23:02 -0700
    Re: Spinning atoms mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 00:06 -0700
      Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 11:41 +0200
      Re: Spinning atoms Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-11 11:51 -0500
        Re: Spinning atoms mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-11 14:12 -0700
          Re: Spinning atoms Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-11 17:57 -0500
            Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 18:45 -0700
              Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 19:14 -0700
                Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 08:51 -0700
                  Re: Spinning atoms Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-13 11:46 -0500
                    Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 10:35 -0700
                      Re: Spinning atoms Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-13 12:47 -0500
                      Re: Spinning atoms mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-13 12:57 -0700
                        Re: Spinning atoms Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-13 15:01 -0500
            Re: Spinning atoms mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-12 18:57 -0700
    Re:Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 11:39 +0200
      Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 10:26 +0000
        Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 05:48 -0700
          Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 12:54 +0000
            Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 06:51 -0700
              Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 14:29 +0000
                Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 07:47 -0700
                  Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 16:53 +0200
                  Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 14:57 +0000
                    Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 08:01 -0700
                      Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 18:07 +0200
                      Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 20:38 +0000
                        Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 09:46 -0700
                  Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 07:58 -0700
                    Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-10 17:09 +0200
                      Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 08:30 -0700
                        Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 20:38 +0000
                    Re: Spinning atoms moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-10 16:01 +0000
                    Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 20:38 +0000
                      Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-11 04:31 +0200
                        Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 03:39 +0000
                          Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 01:08 -0700
                            Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 09:39 +0000
                              Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 05:58 -0700
                                Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 06:19 -0700
                                  Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 13:31 +0000
                                  Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-11 16:10 +0200
                                Re: Spinning atoms Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 13:29 +0000
                                Re: Spinning atoms moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-11 14:36 +0000
                                  Re: Spinning atoms john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 08:02 -0700
                                    Re: Spinning atoms Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-07-11 18:46 +0200
                            Re: Spinning atoms moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-11 14:32 +0000
              Re: Spinning atoms moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-10 14:57 +0000
        Re: Spinning atoms "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 13:13 -0700
          Re: Spinning atoms "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-10 15:29 -0700
    Re: Spinning atoms "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 13:16 -0700
      Re: Spinning atoms "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-10 15:26 -0700

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#693430 — Spinning atoms

Collective spin oscillations have been spotted for the first time in an ultracold atomic gas. The discovery was made by Bruno Laburthe-Tolra and colleagues at the University of Paris 13.

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#693434

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:02:16 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
> Collective spin oscillations have been spotted for the first time in an ultracold atomic gas. The discovery was made by Bruno Laburthe-Tolra and colleagues at the University of Paris 13.

Roy Masters... spin is not happening with single atoms...
Look at a dust devil. It doesn't spin it rotates.
You treat spin when it is only a rotation.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#693443

mitchrae3323@gmail.com Wrote in message:
> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:02:16 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
>> Collective spin oscillations have been spotted for the first time in an ultracold atomic gas. The discovery was made by Bruno Laburthe-Tolra and colleagues at the University of Paris 13.
> 
> Roy Masters... spin is not happening with single atoms...
> Look at a dust devil. It doesn't spin it rotates.
> You treat spin when it is only a rotation.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 

Spinning does not happen to single atoms. 

A spin does..

Btw the spinning of molecules is quantised similarly as a spin.

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Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

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#693611

On 7/10/2018 2:06 AM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:02:16 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
>> Collective spin oscillations have been spotted for the first time in an ultracold atomic gas. The discovery was made by Bruno Laburthe-Tolra and colleagues at the University of Paris 13.
> 
> Roy Masters... spin is not happening with single atoms...
> Look at a dust devil. It doesn't spin it rotates.
> You treat spin when it is only a rotation.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 

mom has a mixer she uses upstairs on the counter, it has two rotors that
counter-spin or counter rotate.

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#693635

On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 9:51:14 AM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> On 7/10/2018 2:06 AM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:02:16 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
> >> Collective spin oscillations have been spotted for the first time in an ultracold atomic gas. The discovery was made by Bruno Laburthe-Tolra and colleagues at the University of Paris 13.
> > 
> > Roy Masters... spin is not happening with single atoms...
> > Look at a dust devil. It doesn't spin it rotates.
> > You treat spin when it is only a rotation.
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> > 
> 
> mom has a mixer she uses upstairs on the counter, it has two rotors that
> counter-spin or counter rotate.

Roy Masters you have spin science when it doesn't apply.
Point is... that just rotates... spin curves require
a change in the size of the solid radius of the rotation
when that is not happening there is no spin Roy Masters.


You want to spin your spin from the past Roy.
Wendy won't go along with it.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#693651

On 7/11/2018 4:12 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 9:51:14 AM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
>> On 7/10/2018 2:06 AM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:02:16 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
>>>> Collective spin oscillations have been spotted for the first time in an ultracold atomic gas. The discovery was made by Bruno Laburthe-Tolra and colleagues at the University of Paris 13.
>>>
>>> Roy Masters... spin is not happening with single atoms...
>>> Look at a dust devil. It doesn't spin it rotates.
>>> You treat spin when it is only a rotation.
>>>
>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>
>>
>> mom has a mixer she uses upstairs on the counter, it has two rotors that
>> counter-spin or counter rotate.
> 
> Roy Masters you have spin science when it doesn't apply.
> Point is... that just rotates... spin curves require
> a change in the size of the solid radius of the rotation
> when that is not happening there is no spin Roy Masters.
> 
> 
> You want to spin your spin from the past Roy.
> Wendy won't go along with it.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSFCHIx6tQ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X92nXeOgBFo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xrFh-z_u1U

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#693750

The first spin- the propagation spin- is then spun 1:1 or 1:2.
When spun 1:1, propagation goes one direction, only, in two forward surges; one clockwise up from under and the second counterclockwise down from the top.

When spun 1:2, propagation reverses twice per cycle

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#693754

Me
“surges; one clockwise up from under and the second counterclo”
Because a single electron is thus rushing back and forth wildly, a second electron is needed to propagate the opposite way. This means an electron with opposite propagation must follow the same path generated by the first electron- opposite to what an anti electron would normally follow. So, when the orbital fills with two electrons, the down electron is a captive anti electron that is being forced to go in the same path as the matter electron.

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#693791

Me
“So, when the orbital fills with two electrons, the down electron is a captive anti electron that is being forced to go in the same path as the matter electron. 
”
I have arrived here before, without considering that Propagation is restricted to one line by the double spin. Following up, the Propagation of the Up electron must be in towards center each time, while the Propagation of the Down electron is away from center twice per cycle.
This means that when it is released, it travels away at light speed as a neutrino.

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#693798

On 7/13/2018 10:51 AM, john wrote:
> Me
> “So, when the orbital fills with two electrons, the down electron is a captive anti electron that is being forced to go in the same path as the matter electron. 
> ”
> I have arrived here before, without considering that Propagation is restricted to one line by the double spin. Following up, the Propagation of the Up electron must be in towards center each time, while the Propagation of the Down electron is away from center twice per cycle.
> This means that when it is released, it travels away at light speed as a neutrino.
> 

like very tiny spinning bowling balls suck in a curved circle.

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#693805

Sergio
“like very tiny spinning bowling balls suck in a curved circle. ”
Matter follows the right hand rule

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#693806

On 7/13/2018 12:35 PM, john wrote:
> Sergio
> “like very tiny spinning bowling balls suck in a curved circle. ”
> Matter follows the right hand rule
> 

(stuck, not suck)

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#693812

On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 10:35:31 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
> Sergio
> “like very tiny spinning bowling balls suck in a curved circle. ”
> Matter follows the right hand rule

That Curved circle is always a rotation.
And how can you see matter that verifies
the right hand rule? How would you
verify it Roy Masters?

There is the No orientation principle.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#693813

On 7/13/2018 2:57 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 10:35:31 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
>> Sergio
>> “like very tiny spinning bowling balls suck in a curved circle. ”
>> Matter follows the right hand rule
> 
> That Curved circle is always a rotation.
> And how can you see matter that verifies
> the right hand rule? How would you
> verify it Roy Masters?
> 
> There is the No orientation principle.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 

right hand or left foot, both are the same rules, mono centric.

left hand rules (or right foot) are different, body concentric.

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#693751

On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> On 7/11/2018 4:12 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 9:51:14 AM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> >> On 7/10/2018 2:06 AM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:02:16 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
> >>>> Collective spin oscillations have been spotted for the first time in an ultracold atomic gas. The discovery was made by Bruno Laburthe-Tolra and colleagues at the University of Paris 13.
> >>>
> >>> Roy Masters... spin is not happening with single atoms...
> >>> Look at a dust devil. It doesn't spin it rotates.
> >>> You treat spin when it is only a rotation.
> >>>
> >>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>
> >>
> >> mom has a mixer she uses upstairs on the counter, it has two rotors that
> >> counter-spin or counter rotate.
> > 
> > Roy Masters you have spin science when it doesn't apply.
> > Point is... that just rotates... spin curves require
> > a change in the size of the solid radius of the rotation
> > when that is not happening there is no spin Roy Masters.
> > 
> > 
> > You want to spin your spin from the past Roy.
> > Wendy won't go along with it.
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> > 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSFCHIx6tQ0
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X92nXeOgBFo
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xrFh-z_u1U

Even tops don't spin Roy Masters...


Mitchell Raemsch

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#693442

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> Collective spin oscillations have been spotted for the first time in an ultracold atomic gas. The discovery was made by Bruno Laburthe-Tolra and colleagues at the University of Paris 13.
> 

Do not confuse it with spinning atoms. 
-- 
Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

"Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
Miloš Forman


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

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#693445

Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>> Collective spin oscillations have been spotted for the first time in an
>> ultracold atomic gas. The discovery was made by Bruno Laburthe-Tolra and
>> colleagues at the University of Paris 13.
>> 
> 
> Do not confuse it with spinning atoms. 

The article is
https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.121.013201

So John, what do you think the words in this article mean? I mean, do you
understand what they are saying, or is it all Greek to you?

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#693449

Odd
“So John, what do you think the words in this article mean? I mean, do you 
understand what they are saying, or is it all Greek to you? 
”

Well, Odd, maybe you can help.
It says “All of the atoms are in their lowest energy spin state, which has a non-zero spin magnetic moment.”

Can you explain how that magnetic moment happens?

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#693450

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “So John, what do you think the words in this article mean? I mean, do you 
> understand what they are saying, or is it all Greek to you? 
> ”
> 
> Well, Odd, maybe you can help.
> It says “All of the atoms are in their lowest energy spin state, which
> has a non-zero spin magnetic moment.”
> 
> Can you explain how that magnetic moment happens?
> 

A magnetic moment is a measure of the energy needed for an external
magnetic field to flip the spin. 

What to you mean how does a magnetic moment “happen”? That’s like asking
how a moment of inertia happens. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#693453

Odd
“
A magnetic moment is a measure of the energy needed for an external 
magnetic field to flip the spin. 
“
What spin? 
Is there something spinning in an atom?

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