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Antarctica is melting faster than we knew

Started bykensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid>
First post2018-07-04 05:07 -0400
Last post2018-07-20 21:12 +0000
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  Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-04 05:07 -0400
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Boris Mohar <borism_void_@sympatico.ca> - 2018-07-04 06:39 -0400
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 12:15 -0700
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-05 13:21 -0700
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-05 14:10 -0700
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 12:04 -0700
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-06 14:33 -0700
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 14:07 -0700
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-06 15:29 -0500
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-05 21:59 -0400
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-07-06 13:25 +1000
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-05 23:56 -0400
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-07-06 20:02 +1000
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-06 19:38 -0400
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:56 -0700
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 17:18 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:26 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:56 -0700
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 19:02 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 21:15 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 23:20 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:05 -0700
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-22 17:00 -0700
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:23 -0700
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-05 22:33 -0400
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-07-05 22:44 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-05 23:07 -0500
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-07-06 13:28 +1000
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-05 23:50 -0400
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-07-06 20:03 +1000
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-06 08:04 -0400
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-07-06 08:16 -0400
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-06 08:23 -0500
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-05 23:57 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-06 05:42 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-06 08:43 -0400
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-06 09:19 -0400
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-07 00:21 -0400
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 23:22 -0700
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-07 05:38 -0400
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-07 10:33 -0400
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-07 12:14 -0400
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-07 12:47 -0400
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-07 19:36 +0000
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 12:38 -0700
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesbabes@bigass-babes.com> - 2018-07-06 05:32 -0700
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-06 08:46 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Avenging Angel <Not.fucking.likely@NoWay.com> - 2018-07-06 13:29 +0000
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesbabes@bigass-babes.com> - 2018-07-06 08:33 -0700
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-06 20:09 +0000
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-06 15:31 -0500
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-07 00:24 -0400
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Frank <"frank "@frank.net> - 2018-07-20 12:16 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-20 21:09 +0000
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-07-20 22:16 +0100
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 14:46 -0700
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 19:24 -0400
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-20 22:26 -0700
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Avenging Angel <Not.fucking.likely@NoWay.com> - 2018-07-06 13:27 +0000
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-07-06 09:34 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-06 08:39 -0500
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-06 09:47 -0400
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Dinsdale <yup@ayup.yup> - 2018-07-06 09:49 -0400
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-06 09:08 -0500
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-06 09:40 -0400
    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 14:55 -0700
      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-06 18:39 -0400
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 15:46 -0700
        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 16:05 -0700
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:08 -0700
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 16:11 -0700
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-06 23:34 +0000
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:38 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-06 19:51 -0400
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:55 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 17:13 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:24 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:53 -0700
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 20:49 -0700
                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:51 -0700
                              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 22:06 -0700
                                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 22:08 -0700
                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 23:35 -0700
                                    Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-07 03:45 -0400
                                      Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-07 05:43 -0400
                                        Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-07-07 11:36 +0100
                                          Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-07 07:11 -0400
                                            Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-07-07 07:46 -0500
                                            Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-09 18:50 -0400
                                          Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 12:15 -0700
                                        Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-09 18:48 -0400
                                          Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 08:02 -0700
                                      Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-07 05:35 -0700
                                        Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-08 10:36 -0700
                                          Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-08 11:33 -0700
                                            Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-08 12:33 -0700
                                              Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-08 15:54 -0700
                                                Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-08 17:12 -0700
                                                  Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-08 17:19 -0700
                                                    Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-08 17:20 -0700
                                                      Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-08 17:55 -0700
                                                        Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-08 19:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-09 03:23 -0700
                                                          Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-09 13:27 -0700
                                                            Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-07-09 16:50 -0700
                                                            Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-09 16:53 -0700
                                                    Re: Antarctica is NOT melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 17:45 -0700
                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:04 -0700
                                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-09 18:44 -0400
                                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 16:11 -0700
                                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:03 -0700
                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:51 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:20 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:56 -0700
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-07 19:38 +0000
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 12:41 -0700
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-10 00:01 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-10 08:15 -0400
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-10 19:22 +0000
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 12:51 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-10 15:22 -0700
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-10 18:01 -0400
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-07-06 19:46 -0400
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:56 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 17:12 -0700
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:22 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 17:39 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:57 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 18:50 -0700
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 23:30 -0700
                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 23:39 -0700
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:54 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 20:43 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:46 -0700
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:49 -0700
          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:13 -0700
            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 17:50 -0700
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 17:58 -0700
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 19:00 -0700
              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 19:00 -0700
                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-06 22:55 -0400
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:34 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 20:40 -0700
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:47 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 21:57 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 23:29 -0700
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 21:59 -0700
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 23:35 -0700
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 23:42 -0700
                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-07 03:21 -0400
                              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 00:54 -0700
                                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-07 12:33 -0400
                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 09:39 -0700
                                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 12:51 -0700
                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-07 12:14 -0700
                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 12:50 -0700
                                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2018-07-07 14:52 -0700
                                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-08 14:56 -0400
                                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 12:36 -0700
                                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 12:42 -0700
                                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 13:37 -0700
                                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 13:44 -0700
                                              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 14:00 -0700
                                                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 14:03 -0700
                                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 14:17 -0700
                                                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 15:11 -0700
                                                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 16:42 -0700
                                                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 16:46 -0700
                                                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 00:36 -0700
                                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2018-07-08 13:51 -0700
                                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 12:37 -0700
                                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-08 16:16 -0400
                                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 13:42 -0700
                                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 13:57 -0700
                                              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 14:01 -0700
                                                Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 14:12 -0700
                                                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 15:10 -0700
                                                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 16:40 -0700
                                                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 16:45 -0700
                              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-15 01:45 -0700
                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 00:56 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:42 -0700
                  Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Catalina" <Catalina@Beach.Sun> - 2018-07-15 00:09 -0400
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-15 00:38 -0400
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Catalina" <Catalina@Beach.Sun> - 2018-07-20 04:01 -0400
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-20 05:12 -0400
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-07-20 11:04 +0100
                    Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-07-15 01:40 -0600
                      Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-15 08:08 -0400
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 12:25 -0400
                        Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew "Catalina" <Catalina@Beach.Sun> - 2018-07-20 04:03 -0400
                          Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-20 08:31 -0400
                            Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 11:53 -0400
                              Re: Antarctica is melting faster than we knew Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-07-20 21:12 +0000

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#692860

Frommixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie>
Date2018-07-06 22:55 -0400
Message-ID<phpa2k$6uq$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#692854
On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>> Checkmate!  In article <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we have to act soon if we want
>>>>>>> to protect the southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the history of Earth wrt
>>>>>> cycles of cooling and warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>
>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and non-glaciated, back about 550
>>>>> million years ago, before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history where virtually no ice
>>>> sheets existed. Cycles where the tropical temperatures extended up into
>>>> the poles.
>>>
>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other throughout Earth's
>>> history.  That's why it's ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree
>>> or two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not, and it's even
>>> more ludicrous to think we can "reverse" it.
>>>
>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is no practical way
>> we can reverse the current cycle: Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine,
>> however, it will not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>> thing, so to speak.
> 
> With the world's population as high as it is, and the economy as fragile
> as it is, we're very energy-dependent, and we're simply going to have to
> live with that.  Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can realistically do
> to lower CO2 output, but compared to historical long term climate
> changes, this is nothing.

I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35 below and 
sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel more coal into the stoker 
and pull out the clinker and lay a new fire.  You could tell when it was 
getting low - the pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it 
and that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it right away, 
one of my sisters would yell into my room and order ol' cinderfeller 
(me) to get a move on.

I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I don't have a 
proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry them.

-- 
Grizzly H.

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#692865

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-06 20:34 -0700
Message-ID<bdm1t3.f69.17.4@news.alt.net>
In reply to#692860
On 2018-07-06 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>> Checkmate!  In article <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we have to act soon if we 
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>> to protect the southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the history of Earth wrt
>>>>>>> cycles of cooling and warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and non-glaciated, back about 
>>>>>> 550
>>>>>> million years ago, before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history where virtually no 
>>>>> ice
>>>>> sheets existed. Cycles where the tropical temperatures extended up 
>>>>> into
>>>>> the poles.
>>>>
>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other throughout 
>>>> Earth's
>>>> history.  That's why it's ludicrous to be overly concerned about a 
>>>> degree
>>>> or two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not, and it's even
>>>> more ludicrous to think we can "reverse" it.
>>>>
>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is no practical way
>>> we can reverse the current cycle: Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine,
>>> however, it will not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>> thing, so to speak.
>>
>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the economy as fragile
>> as it is, we're very energy-dependent, and we're simply going to have to
>> live with that.  Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can realistically do
>> to lower CO2 output, but compared to historical long term climate
>> changes, this is nothing.
> 
> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35 below and 
> sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel more coal into the stoker 
> and pull out the clinker and lay a new fire.  You could tell when it was 
> getting low - the pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it 
> and that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it right away, 
> one of my sisters would yell into my room and order ol' cinderfeller 
> (me) to get a move on.
> 
> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I don't have a 
> proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry them.
> 
you can order them online or if you're here go see carl

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#692866

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-07-06 20:40 -0700
Message-ID<phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#692860
On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>> Checkmate!  In article <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we have to act soon if we 
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>> to protect the southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the history of Earth wrt
>>>>>>> cycles of cooling and warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and non-glaciated, back about 
>>>>>> 550
>>>>>> million years ago, before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history where virtually no 
>>>>> ice
>>>>> sheets existed. Cycles where the tropical temperatures extended up 
>>>>> into
>>>>> the poles.
>>>>
>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other throughout 
>>>> Earth's
>>>> history.  That's why it's ludicrous to be overly concerned about a 
>>>> degree
>>>> or two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not, and it's even
>>>> more ludicrous to think we can "reverse" it.
>>>>
>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is no practical way
>>> we can reverse the current cycle: Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine,
>>> however, it will not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>> thing, so to speak.
>>
>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the economy as fragile
>> as it is, we're very energy-dependent, and we're simply going to have to
>> live with that.  Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can realistically do
>> to lower CO2 output, but compared to historical long term climate
>> changes, this is nothing.
> 
> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35 below and 
> sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel more coal into the stoker 
> and pull out the clinker and lay a new fire.  You could tell when it was 
> getting low - the pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it 
> and that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it right away, 
> one of my sisters would yell into my room and order ol' cinderfeller 
> (me) to get a move on.
> 
> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I don't have a 
> proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry them.
> 

Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it getting 
around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on the front of the 
cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of the cars were basically 
playing Plinko with the reinforced snow banks. I accidentally made the 
mistake of not plowing the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows 
the night before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after 
the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to -35. Shi%.

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#692872

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-06 20:47 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35a9d7acb2c58b5d9942a5@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#692866
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>, 
invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...


> 
> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> > On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >> Checkmate!  In article <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
> >> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>>> Checkmate!  In article <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we have to act soon if we 
> >>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>> to protect the southernmost continent:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636 
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the history of Earth wrt
> >>>>>>> cycles of cooling and warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
> >>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and non-glaciated, back about 
> >>>>>> 550
> >>>>>> million years ago, before trees and vertebrates evolved.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history where virtually no 
> >>>>> ice
> >>>>> sheets existed. Cycles where the tropical temperatures extended up 
> >>>>> into
> >>>>> the poles.
> >>>>
> >>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other throughout 
> >>>> Earth's
> >>>> history.  That's why it's ludicrous to be overly concerned about a 
> >>>> degree
> >>>> or two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not, and it's even
> >>>> more ludicrous to think we can "reverse" it.
> >>>>
> >>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is no practical way
> >>> we can reverse the current cycle: Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine,
> >>> however, it will not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
> >>> thing, so to speak.
> >>
> >> With the world's population as high as it is, and the economy as fragile
> >> as it is, we're very energy-dependent, and we're simply going to have to
> >> live with that.  Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
> >> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can realistically do
> >> to lower CO2 output, but compared to historical long term climate
> >> changes, this is nothing.
> > 
> > I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35 below and 
> > sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel more coal into the stoker 
> > and pull out the clinker and lay a new fire.  You could tell when it was 
> > getting low - the pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it 
> > and that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it right away, 
> > one of my sisters would yell into my room and order ol' cinderfeller 
> > (me) to get a move on.
> > 
> > I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I don't have a 
> > proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry them.
> > 
> 
> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it getting 
> around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on the front of the 
> cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of the cars were basically 
> playing Plinko with the reinforced snow banks. I accidentally made the 
> mistake of not plowing the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows 
> the night before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after 
> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to -35. Shi%.

I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is excellent.

-- 
Checkmate ® 
Author, Humorist, Cynic
Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
Usenet Shot-Caller           
Copyright © 2018 
all rights reserved

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

"There are many here among us, 
who feel that life is but a joke."

"I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as 
kensi."    -Nadegda  
Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me>

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#692882

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-07-06 21:57 -0700
Message-ID<phph81$2d4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#692872
On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> 
> 
>>
>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>> Checkmate!  In article <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we have to act soon if we
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>> to protect the southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the history of Earth wrt
>>>>>>>>> cycles of cooling and warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and non-glaciated, back about
>>>>>>>> 550
>>>>>>>> million years ago, before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history where virtually no
>>>>>>> ice
>>>>>>> sheets existed. Cycles where the tropical temperatures extended up
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> the poles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other throughout
>>>>>> Earth's
>>>>>> history.  That's why it's ludicrous to be overly concerned about a
>>>>>> degree
>>>>>> or two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not, and it's even
>>>>>> more ludicrous to think we can "reverse" it.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is no practical way
>>>>> we can reverse the current cycle: Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine,
>>>>> however, it will not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>
>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the economy as fragile
>>>> as it is, we're very energy-dependent, and we're simply going to have to
>>>> live with that.  Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can realistically do
>>>> to lower CO2 output, but compared to historical long term climate
>>>> changes, this is nothing.
>>>
>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35 below and
>>> sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel more coal into the stoker
>>> and pull out the clinker and lay a new fire.  You could tell when it was
>>> getting low - the pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it
>>> and that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it right away,
>>> one of my sisters would yell into my room and order ol' cinderfeller
>>> (me) to get a move on.
>>>
>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I don't have a
>>> proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry them.
>>>
>>
>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it getting
>> around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on the front of the
>> cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of the cars were basically
>> playing Plinko with the reinforced snow banks. I accidentally made the
>> mistake of not plowing the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows
>> the night before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to -35. Shi%.
> 
> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is excellent.
> 

Wrt Heavenly, as a kid, I always loved going from Ridge Run down into 
Maggies with my mom, California side, well, you get to see the grandeur 
of the Lake. Ski school was fun as well. I know a ski instructor up 
there that has many decades of experience, he is family. Tried the 
Waterfall, the Gun Barrel, Face... Unfortunately, I have not skied in a 
while. Have a lot of family in Tahoe.

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#692897

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-06 23:29 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35a9fda9976566e79942ac@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#692882
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <phph81$2d4$1@dont-email.me>, 
invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...


> 
> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> > Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
> > invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>>> Checkmate!  In article <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we have to act soon if we
> >>>>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>> to protect the southernmost continent:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the history of Earth wrt
> >>>>>>>>> cycles of cooling and warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
> >>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and non-glaciated, back about
> >>>>>>>> 550
> >>>>>>>> million years ago, before trees and vertebrates evolved.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history where virtually no
> >>>>>>> ice
> >>>>>>> sheets existed. Cycles where the tropical temperatures extended up
> >>>>>>> into
> >>>>>>> the poles.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other throughout
> >>>>>> Earth's
> >>>>>> history.  That's why it's ludicrous to be overly concerned about a
> >>>>>> degree
> >>>>>> or two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not, and it's even
> >>>>>> more ludicrous to think we can "reverse" it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is no practical way
> >>>>> we can reverse the current cycle: Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine,
> >>>>> however, it will not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
> >>>>> thing, so to speak.
> >>>>
> >>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the economy as fragile
> >>>> as it is, we're very energy-dependent, and we're simply going to have to
> >>>> live with that.  Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
> >>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can realistically do
> >>>> to lower CO2 output, but compared to historical long term climate
> >>>> changes, this is nothing.
> >>>
> >>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35 below and
> >>> sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel more coal into the stoker
> >>> and pull out the clinker and lay a new fire.  You could tell when it was
> >>> getting low - the pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it
> >>> and that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it right away,
> >>> one of my sisters would yell into my room and order ol' cinderfeller
> >>> (me) to get a move on.
> >>>
> >>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I don't have a
> >>> proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry them.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it getting
> >> around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on the front of the
> >> cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of the cars were basically
> >> playing Plinko with the reinforced snow banks. I accidentally made the
> >> mistake of not plowing the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows
> >> the night before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
> >> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to -35. Shi%.
> > 
> > I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is excellent.
> > 
> 
> Wrt Heavenly, as a kid, I always loved going from Ridge Run down into 
> Maggies with my mom, California side, well, you get to see the grandeur 
> of the Lake. Ski school was fun as well. I know a ski instructor up 
> there that has many decades of experience, he is family. Tried the 
> Waterfall, the Gun Barrel, Face... Unfortunately, I have not skied in a 
> while. Have a lot of family in Tahoe.

I haven't skied in ages... probably too old to bother with it again, but 
it was fun when I was younger.  I've also been to Mammoth.  It was great, 
but Heavenly was the best, and I don't think I could have covered all of 
it in a day.  

-- 
Checkmate ® 
Author, Humorist, Cynic
Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
Usenet Shot-Caller           
Copyright © 2018 
all rights reserved

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

"There are many here among us, 
who feel that life is but a joke."

"I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as 
kensi."    -Nadegda  
Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me>

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#692883

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-07-06 21:59 -0700
Message-ID<phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#692872
On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> 
> 
>>
>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>> Checkmate!  In article <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we have to act soon if we
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>> to protect the southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the history of Earth wrt
>>>>>>>>> cycles of cooling and warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and non-glaciated, back about
>>>>>>>> 550
>>>>>>>> million years ago, before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history where virtually no
>>>>>>> ice
>>>>>>> sheets existed. Cycles where the tropical temperatures extended up
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> the poles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other throughout
>>>>>> Earth's
>>>>>> history.  That's why it's ludicrous to be overly concerned about a
>>>>>> degree
>>>>>> or two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not, and it's even
>>>>>> more ludicrous to think we can "reverse" it.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is no practical way
>>>>> we can reverse the current cycle: Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine,
>>>>> however, it will not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>
>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the economy as fragile
>>>> as it is, we're very energy-dependent, and we're simply going to have to
>>>> live with that.  Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can realistically do
>>>> to lower CO2 output, but compared to historical long term climate
>>>> changes, this is nothing.
>>>
>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35 below and
>>> sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel more coal into the stoker
>>> and pull out the clinker and lay a new fire.  You could tell when it was
>>> getting low - the pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it
>>> and that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it right away,
>>> one of my sisters would yell into my room and order ol' cinderfeller
>>> (me) to get a move on.
>>>
>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I don't have a
>>> proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry them.
>>>
>>
>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it getting
>> around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on the front of the
>> cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of the cars were basically
>> playing Plinko with the reinforced snow banks. I accidentally made the
>> mistake of not plowing the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows
>> the night before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to -35. Shi%.
> 
> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is excellent.
> 

Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts Canyon 
or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers. Make me look 
like total garbage.

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#692899

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-06 23:35 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35a9feeaf0a4c1f59942ad@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#692883
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>, 
invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...


> 
> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> > Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
> > invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>>> Checkmate!  In article <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we have to act soon if we
> >>>>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>> to protect the southernmost continent:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the history of Earth wrt
> >>>>>>>>> cycles of cooling and warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
> >>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and non-glaciated, back about
> >>>>>>>> 550
> >>>>>>>> million years ago, before trees and vertebrates evolved.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history where virtually no
> >>>>>>> ice
> >>>>>>> sheets existed. Cycles where the tropical temperatures extended up
> >>>>>>> into
> >>>>>>> the poles.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other throughout
> >>>>>> Earth's
> >>>>>> history.  That's why it's ludicrous to be overly concerned about a
> >>>>>> degree
> >>>>>> or two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not, and it's even
> >>>>>> more ludicrous to think we can "reverse" it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is no practical way
> >>>>> we can reverse the current cycle: Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine,
> >>>>> however, it will not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
> >>>>> thing, so to speak.
> >>>>
> >>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the economy as fragile
> >>>> as it is, we're very energy-dependent, and we're simply going to have to
> >>>> live with that.  Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
> >>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can realistically do
> >>>> to lower CO2 output, but compared to historical long term climate
> >>>> changes, this is nothing.
> >>>
> >>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35 below and
> >>> sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel more coal into the stoker
> >>> and pull out the clinker and lay a new fire.  You could tell when it was
> >>> getting low - the pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it
> >>> and that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it right away,
> >>> one of my sisters would yell into my room and order ol' cinderfeller
> >>> (me) to get a move on.
> >>>
> >>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I don't have a
> >>> proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry them.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it getting
> >> around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on the front of the
> >> cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of the cars were basically
> >> playing Plinko with the reinforced snow banks. I accidentally made the
> >> mistake of not plowing the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows
> >> the night before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
> >> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to -35. Shi%.
> > 
> > I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is excellent.
> > 
> 
> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts Canyon 
> or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers. Make me look 
> like total garbage.

I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was content 
with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.  I don't 
remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably Mammoth, where 
there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of what looked to me 
like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys take that ride and then 
just stand at the edge psyching themselves out.  I suspect a fair number 
of them rode the gondola back down.

-- 
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Philosopher, Humanitarian
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#692902

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-07-06 23:42 -0700
Message-ID<phpncr$uni$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#692899
On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> 
> 
>>
>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>> Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we have to act soon if we
>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>> to protect the southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the history of Earth wrt
>>>>>>>>>>> cycles of cooling and warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and non-glaciated, back about
>>>>>>>>>> 550
>>>>>>>>>> million years ago, before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history where virtually no
>>>>>>>>> ice
>>>>>>>>> sheets existed. Cycles where the tropical temperatures extended up
>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>> the poles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other throughout
>>>>>>>> Earth's
>>>>>>>> history.  That's why it's ludicrous to be overly concerned about a
>>>>>>>> degree
>>>>>>>> or two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not, and it's even
>>>>>>>> more ludicrous to think we can "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is no practical way
>>>>>>> we can reverse the current cycle: Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine,
>>>>>>> however, it will not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the economy as fragile
>>>>>> as it is, we're very energy-dependent, and we're simply going to have to
>>>>>> live with that.  Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can realistically do
>>>>>> to lower CO2 output, but compared to historical long term climate
>>>>>> changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35 below and
>>>>> sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel more coal into the stoker
>>>>> and pull out the clinker and lay a new fire.  You could tell when it was
>>>>> getting low - the pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it
>>>>> and that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it right away,
>>>>> one of my sisters would yell into my room and order ol' cinderfeller
>>>>> (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I don't have a
>>>>> proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it getting
>>>> around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on the front of the
>>>> cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of the cars were basically
>>>> playing Plinko with the reinforced snow banks. I accidentally made the
>>>> mistake of not plowing the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows
>>>> the night before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to -35. Shi%.
>>>
>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is excellent.
>>>
>>
>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts Canyon
>> or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers. Make me look
>> like total garbage.
> 
> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was content
> with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.  I don't
> remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably Mammoth, where
> there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of what looked to me
> like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys take that ride and then
> just stand at the edge psyching themselves out.  I suspect a fair number
> of them rode the gondola back down.
> 

Yeah. Totally Agree.

Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:

https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80

Mott's Canyon.

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#692906

Frommixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie>
Date2018-07-07 03:21 -0400
Message-ID<phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#692902
On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>, 
>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>, 
>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>, 
>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>, 
>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural 
>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage 
>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can 
>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after 
>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>> 
>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>> excellent.
>>> 
>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>> 
>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
> 
> Yeah. Totally Agree.
> 
> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
> 
> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
> 
> Mott's Canyon.

Eastern skiing is different:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU

Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part 
near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off the bumps.

-- 
Grizzly H.

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#692909

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 00:54 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35aa118e2d7155009942b0@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#692906
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>, 
melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...


> 
> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>, 
> >> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>, 
> >>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
> >>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>, 
> >>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
> >>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>, 
> >>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
> >>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
> >>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
> >>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
> >>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
> >>>>>>>>>> poles.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
> >>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
> >>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
> >>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
> >>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
> >>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
> >>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
> >>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
> >>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural 
> >>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
> >>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
> >>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
> >>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage 
> >>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can 
> >>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
> >>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
> >>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
> >>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
> >>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
> >>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
> >>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
> >>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
> >>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
> >>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
> >>>>>> them.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
> >>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
> >>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
> >>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
> >>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
> >>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
> >>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after 
> >>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
> >>>>> -35. Shi%.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
> >>>> excellent.
> >>> 
> >>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
> >>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
> >>> Make me look like total garbage.
> >> 
> >> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
> >> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
> >> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
> >> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
> >> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
> >> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
> >> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
> > 
> > Yeah. Totally Agree.
> > 
> > Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
> > 
> > https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
> > 
> > Mott's Canyon.
> 
> Eastern skiing is different:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
> 
> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part 
> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off the bumps.

That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny 
Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?

-- 
Checkmate ® 
Author, Humorist, Cynic
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#692950

Frommixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie>
Date2018-07-07 12:33 -0400
Message-ID<phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#692909
On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
> 
> 
>>
>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>>>>
>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
>>>
>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
>>>
>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
>>>
>>> Mott's Canyon.
>>
>> Eastern skiing is different:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
>>
>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part
>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off the bumps.
> 
> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?

Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our 
hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski 
under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or 
something.  There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a 
flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up there 
when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.  Sometimes we'd 
stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool off. 
  He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.

If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU


-- 
Grizzly H.

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#692952

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 09:39 -0700
Message-ID<bdnfso.sv9.19.3@news.alt.net>
In reply to#692950
On 2018-07-07 9:33 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>>>>>
>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
>>>>
>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
>>>>
>>>> Mott's Canyon.
>>>
>>> Eastern skiing is different:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
>>>
>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part
>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off the 
>>> bumps.
>>
>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
> 
> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our 
> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski 
> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or 
> something.  There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a 
> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up there 
> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.  Sometimes we'd 
> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool off. 
>   He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
> 
> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
> 
> 
we do back country fly ins

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#692979

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 12:51 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35aab982c92f76fe9942b6@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#692952
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <bdnfso.sv9.19.3@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com 
says...


> 
> On 2018-07-07 9:33 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
> > On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
> >> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> >> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
> >>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
> >>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
> >>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
> >>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
> >>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
> >>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
> >>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
> >>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
> >>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
> >>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
> >>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
> >>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
> >>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
> >>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
> >>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
> >>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
> >>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
> >>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
> >>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
> >>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
> >>>>>>>>> them.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
> >>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
> >>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
> >>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
> >>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
> >>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
> >>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
> >>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
> >>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
> >>>>>>> excellent.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
> >>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
> >>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
> >>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
> >>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
> >>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
> >>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
> >>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
> >>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
> >>>>
> >>>> Mott's Canyon.
> >>>
> >>> Eastern skiing is different:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
> >>>
> >>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part
> >>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off the 
> >>> bumps.
> >>
> >> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
> >> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
> > 
> > Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our 
> > hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski 
> > under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or 
> > something.  There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a 
> > flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up there 
> > when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.  Sometimes we'd 
> > stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool off. 
> >   He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
> > 
> > If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
> > 
> > 
> we do back country fly ins

"You" don't.

-- 
Checkmate ® 
Author, Humorist, Cynic
Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
Usenet Shot-Caller           
Copyright © 2018 
all rights reserved

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

"There are many here among us, 
who feel that life is but a joke."

"I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as 
kensi."    -Nadegda  
Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me>

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#692968

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-07-07 12:14 -0700
Message-ID<phr3ec$uua$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#692950
On 7/7/2018 9:33 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>>>>>
>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
>>>>
>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
>>>>
>>>> Mott's Canyon.
>>>
>>> Eastern skiing is different:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
>>>
>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part
>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off the 
>>> bumps.
>>
>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
> 
> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our 
> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski 
> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or 
> something.  

Nice.


> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a 
> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up there 
> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.  Sometimes we'd 
> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool off. 
>   He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.

Wow! That took a left turn. Not sure exactly what that is. I am sure 
glad you did not get molested.


> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU

No shi% man. It should be harder packed and get a lot icier.

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#692978

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-07 12:50 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35aab955fa9bff0f9942b5@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#692950
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>, 
melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...


> 
> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> > Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> > melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
> >>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
> >>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
> >>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
> >>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
> >>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
> >>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
> >>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
> >>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
> >>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
> >>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
> >>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
> >>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
> >>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
> >>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
> >>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
> >>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
> >>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
> >>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
> >>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
> >>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
> >>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
> >>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
> >>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
> >>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
> >>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
> >>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
> >>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
> >>>>>>>> them.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
> >>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
> >>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
> >>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
> >>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
> >>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
> >>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
> >>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
> >>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
> >>>>>> excellent.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
> >>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
> >>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
> >>>>
> >>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
> >>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
> >>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
> >>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
> >>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
> >>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
> >>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
> >>>
> >>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
> >>>
> >>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
> >>>
> >>> Mott's Canyon.
> >>
> >> Eastern skiing is different:
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
> >>
> >> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part
> >> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off the bumps.
> > 
> > That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
> > Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
> 
> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our 
> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski 
> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or 
> something.  

All "legally"... right?

> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a 
> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up there 
> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.  

How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?

> Sometimes we'd 
> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool off. 
>   He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.

Were you disappointed?

 
> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU

Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and 
stuff.

One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on 
the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the 
road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of 
crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process 
of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the 
stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about skiing, 
and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and 
they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and 
I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed 
down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it 
to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked 
up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least three 
years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.

-- 
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who feel that life is but a joke."

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kensi."    -Nadegda  
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#693013

FromEarle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net>
Date2018-07-07 14:52 -0700
Message-ID<2018070714524036405-earlejones@comcastnet>
In reply to#692978
On 2018-07-07 19:50:16 +0000, Checkmate said:

> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
> 
> 
>> 
>> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
>>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mott's Canyon.
>>>> 
>>>> Eastern skiing is different:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
>>>> 
>>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part
>>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off the bumps.
>>> 
>>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
>>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
>> 
>> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our
>> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski
>> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or
>> something.
> 
> All "legally"... right?
> 
>> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a
>> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up there
>> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.
> 
> How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?
> 
>> Sometimes we'd
>> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool off.
>> He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
> 
> Were you disappointed?
> 
> 
>> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
> 
> Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and
> stuff.
> 
> One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on
> the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the
> road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of
> crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process
> of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the
> stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about skiing,
> and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and
> they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and
> I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed
> down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it
> to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked
> up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least three
> years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.

*
Checkmate:

What did you learn from that experience?  Anything?

earle
*

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#693127

Frommixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie>
Date2018-07-08 14:56 -0400
Message-ID<phtmpi$u3p$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#692978
On 7/7/2018 3:50 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
>>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
>>>>>
>>>>> Mott's Canyon.
>>>>
>>>> Eastern skiing is different:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
>>>>
>>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part
>>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off the bumps.
>>>
>>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
>>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
>>
>> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our
>> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski
>> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or
>> something.
> 
> All "legally"... right?

It's a town mountain.  You could just go up there and do stuff as long 
as you didn't hurt anything that was protected like trilliums or out of 
season like trouts and deers, sometimes.  People would pick raspberries 
and blueberries, go fishing in the lake, shoot deer and mooses and 
collect firewood from dead trees.  Nobody ever went to jail for doing 
that because IT WAS LEGAL!

>> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a
>> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up there
>> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.
> 
> How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?

It was a Gravely.  It went puttputtputt.  Like this but without the 
trailer seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCEXpgaX6I
> 
>> Sometimes we'd
>> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool off.
>> He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
> 
> Were you disappointed?

We did even know he was a homo fag gay prevert until we got into high 
school and that's what some people were saying.  Maybe it's because had 
a huge nice garden you could wander through and decide what plants you 
wanted and get landscaping ideas.  Some people would just go there to 
admire it.  Normal people don't have gardens like that, presumably.

>> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
> 
> Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and
> stuff.
> 
> One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on
> the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the
> road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of
> crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process
> of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the
> stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about skiing,
> and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and
> they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and
> I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed
> down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it
> to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked
> up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least three
> years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.

I kept my edges sharp so I could ski on ice - sometimes that's all you'd 
have until the sideways guys busted it into corn.  I had a stone that 
I'd run down the face with a little oil then I'd burnish the edge with a 
piece of drill rod to put a little hook in it.  If there wasn't enough 
edge to work with, I'd go after the sides with some 400 grit wet-or dry 
on a hard block with soap water until the edge was flush again.  Then I 
could skate, if that's what was needed.  Worst people crash was going 
over somebody's loose ski and gouging it up pretty good.  It was a new 
ski.  Sad.  I tended to do all my hill bombing where the wobblies 
weren't.  If the first 500ft was at 45 degrees, people would filter 
themselves out.  Didn't need no damn black diamonds.

-- 
Grizzly H.

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#693130

FromCheckmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 12:36 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.35ac0793e538c6549942e5@news.altopia.com>
In reply to#693127
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <phtmpi$u3p$1@gioia.aioe.org>, 
melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...


> 
> On 7/7/2018 3:50 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> > Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> > melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
> >> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> >>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> >>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
> >>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
> >>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
> >>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
> >>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
> >>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
> >>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
> >>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
> >>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
> >>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
> >>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
> >>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
> >>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
> >>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
> >>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
> >>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
> >>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
> >>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
> >>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
> >>>>>>>>>> them.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
> >>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
> >>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
> >>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
> >>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
> >>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
> >>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
> >>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
> >>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
> >>>>>>>> excellent.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
> >>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
> >>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
> >>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
> >>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
> >>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
> >>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
> >>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
> >>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mott's Canyon.
> >>>>
> >>>> Eastern skiing is different:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
> >>>>
> >>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part
> >>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off the bumps.
> >>>
> >>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
> >>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
> >>
> >> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our
> >> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski
> >> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or
> >> something.
> > 
> > All "legally"... right?
> 
> It's a town mountain.  You could just go up there and do stuff as long 
> as you didn't hurt anything that was protected like trilliums or out of 
> season like trouts and deers, sometimes.  People would pick raspberries 
> and blueberries, go fishing in the lake, shoot deer and mooses and 
> collect firewood from dead trees.  Nobody ever went to jail for doing 
> that because IT WAS LEGAL!
> 
> >> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a
> >> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up there
> >> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.
> > 
> > How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?
> 
> It was a Gravely.  It went puttputtputt.  Like this but without the 
> trailer seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCEXpgaX6I
> > 
> >> Sometimes we'd
> >> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool off.
> >> He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
> > 
> > Were you disappointed?
> 
> We did even know he was a homo fag gay prevert until we got into high 
> school and that's what some people were saying.  Maybe it's because had 
> a huge nice garden you could wander through and decide what plants you 
> wanted and get landscaping ideas.  Some people would just go there to 
> admire it.  Normal people don't have gardens like that, presumably.
> 
> >> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
> > 
> > Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and
> > stuff.
> > 
> > One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on
> > the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the
> > road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of
> > crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process
> > of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the
> > stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about skiing,
> > and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and
> > they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and
> > I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed
> > down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it
> > to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked
> > up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least three
> > years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.
> 
> I kept my edges sharp so I could ski on ice - sometimes that's all you'd 
> have until the sideways guys busted it into corn.  I had a stone that 
> I'd run down the face with a little oil then I'd burnish the edge with a 
> piece of drill rod to put a little hook in it.  If there wasn't enough 
> edge to work with, I'd go after the sides with some 400 grit wet-or dry 
> on a hard block with soap water until the edge was flush again.  Then I 
> could skate, if that's what was needed.  Worst people crash was going 
> over somebody's loose ski and gouging it up pretty good.  It was a new 
> ski.  Sad.  I tended to do all my hill bombing where the wobblies 
> weren't.  If the first 500ft was at 45 degrees, people would filter 
> themselves out.  Didn't need no damn black diamonds.

I saw a guy plow into a girl once at the bottom of a run, where he should 
have slowed down.  The girl went to the hospital, and the guy got cuffed 
and stuffed and went to the pokey to get poked.  Seems they don't cotton 
to reckless skiing when there's a wreck.

-- 
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#693133

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-08 12:42 -0700
Message-ID<bdqevo.4nt.19.5@news.alt.net>
In reply to#693130
On 2018-07-08 12:36 PM, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!  In article <phtmpi$u3p$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
> 
> 
>>
>> On 7/7/2018 3:50 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>> Checkmate!  In article <phqq0t$gp1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>> On 7/7/2018 3:54 AM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <phppmi$rnk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>>> melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie says...
>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 2:42 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:35 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phphbm$2d4$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 8:47 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>> posts by Checkmate!  In article <phpcnm$dct$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 7:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 10:00 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <php2pf$igp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 4:13 PM, Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <phosk7$j11$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 3:39 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 5:55 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/2018 2:07 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate scientist Stephen Rintoul says we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to act soon if we want to protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southernmost continent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/antarctica-melting-faster-we-knew-here-s-what-it-will-ncna884636
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antarctica was completely melted before, in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of Earth wrt cycles of cooling and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warming periods. I think it had lush forests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled with all sorts of exotic life forms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It used to be closer to the equator, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-glaciated, back about 550 million years ago,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trees and vertebrates evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afaict, there were periods in the Earths history
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where virtually no ice sheets existed. Cycles where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tropical temperatures extended up into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Climate change has gone from one extreme to the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throughout Earth's history.  That's why it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludicrous to be overly concerned about a degree or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two, whether it's actually provably man-made or not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's even more ludicrous to think we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "reverse" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah... Imvho, the main point is that there really is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no practical way we can reverse the current cycle:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Reducing pollution is fine, however, it will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be able to stop nature from doing its natural
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, so to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the world's population as high as it is, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> economy as fragile as it is, we're very energy-dependent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we're simply going to have to live with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative energy sources and improved energy storage
>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems are probably our best bet as to anything we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> realistically do to lower CO2 output, but compared to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> historical long term climate changes, this is nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I was a kid and it would get down to 35
>>>>>>>>>>>> below and sometimes I'd have to get up at 3AM to shovel
>>>>>>>>>>>> more coal into the stoker and pull out the clinker and lay
>>>>>>>>>>>> a new fire.  You could tell when it was getting low - the
>>>>>>>>>>>> pillow would get crunchy where I was breathing on it and
>>>>>>>>>>>> that would wake me up.  Sometimes, if I didn't hop to it
>>>>>>>>>>>> right away, one of my sisters would yell into my room and
>>>>>>>>>>>> order ol' cinderfeller (me) to get a move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure glad we don't have a climate like that anymore - I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a proper coal shovel and the stores don't carry
>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Never been that cold! In South Lake Tahoe, I remember it
>>>>>>>>>>> getting around 6 to 8 below according to the thermometer on
>>>>>>>>>>> the front of the cabin, right around New Years Eve. Some of
>>>>>>>>>>> the cars were basically playing Plinko with the reinforced
>>>>>>>>>>> snow banks. I accidentally made the mistake of not plowing
>>>>>>>>>>> the fresh burms created by the damn snow plows the night
>>>>>>>>>>> before. They were basically frozen solid the next day, after
>>>>>>>>>>> the cold temps, well, not that cold at all when compared to
>>>>>>>>>>> -35. Shi%.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've skied Tahoe, back in the day.  The Nevada side is
>>>>>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fwiw, my cousins are easily good enough to take on anything Motts
>>>>>>>>> Canyon or Killebrew Canyon can throw at them. Very good skiers.
>>>>>>>>> Make me look like total garbage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I picked up intermediate skills the first time I went out.  I was
>>>>>>>> content with that, and didn't venture out onto the diamond lanes.
>>>>>>>> I don't remember whether it was Heavenly or Mammoth... probably
>>>>>>>> Mammoth, where there was a gondola that took you up to the edge of
>>>>>>>> what looked to me like a fucking cliff.  I watched so many guys
>>>>>>>> take that ride and then just stand at the edge psyching themselves
>>>>>>>> out.  I suspect a fair number of them rode the gondola back down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah. Totally Agree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fwiw, not a total cliff, but a sense of the feeling:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/UptwZ_nkbow?t=80
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mott's Canyon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eastern skiing is different:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6DEBx9MdU
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't go all that fast up in the trees but you can bomb the open part
>>>>>> near the bottom about 60-70 mph so you can get some good air off the bumps.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's putting your balls in the rough... you could easily do a Sonny
>>>>> Bono on that trail.  That WAS a trail... right?
>>>>
>>>> Me and my friends would go up on the mountain in the summer with our
>>>> hatchets and saws to open up some trails so we wouldn't catch a ski
>>>> under a tipped over sapling or in a raspberry swamp and get killed or
>>>> something.
>>>
>>> All "legally"... right?
>>
>> It's a town mountain.  You could just go up there and do stuff as long
>> as you didn't hurt anything that was protected like trilliums or out of
>> season like trouts and deers, sometimes.  People would pick raspberries
>> and blueberries, go fishing in the lake, shoot deer and mooses and
>> collect firewood from dead trees.  Nobody ever went to jail for doing
>> that because IT WAS LEGAL!
>>
>>>> There was a gay homo faggot prevert in town who owned a
>>>> flower and shrub farm and landscaping business and he would go up there
>>>> when he had some free time and run a brush hog around.
>>>
>>> How did the hawg take to that?  Did he squeal like a pig?
>>
>> It was a Gravely.  It went puttputtputt.  Like this but without the
>> trailer seat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCEXpgaX6I
>>>
>>>> Sometimes we'd
>>>> stand around gabbing with him when it was hot and we needed to cool off.
>>>> He never molested any of us.  I think the rumors weren't accurate.
>>>
>>> Were you disappointed?
>>
>> We did even know he was a homo fag gay prevert until we got into high
>> school and that's what some people were saying.  Maybe it's because had
>> a huge nice garden you could wander through and decide what plants you
>> wanted and get landscaping ideas.  Some people would just go there to
>> admire it.  Normal people don't have gardens like that, presumably.
>>
>>>> If you don't like trees, there are some treeless places to ski:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7YknhIKeU
>>>
>>> Most of the Left Coast ski runs are pretty wide, with mogul fields and
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> One time... at Band Camp, I was skiing and came upon a big pinnacle on
>>> the path, with a smaller trail going around it.  I decided to take the
>>> road less traveled, and as soon as I got around it, there was a lot of
>>> crusty ice.  I went into it kinda fast, but started the careful process
>>> of slowing down, lest I end up taking a dump.  Then I see four of the
>>> stupidest, most retarded girls, who obviously knew nothing about skiing,
>>> and they're standing four abreast (or would that be eight abreast?) and
>>> they're HOLDING HANDS!  They're all trying to "walk" in their skis, and
>>> I've got no way around them, and not enough time to get myself slowed
>>> down on all that ice, so I did the only thing I could do... I dumped it
>>> to keep from taking those dumb bitches out like bowling pins.  I fucked
>>> up my right shoulder real good.  So good, in fact, it was at least three
>>> years before I could raise my right arm above shoulder height.
>>
>> I kept my edges sharp so I could ski on ice - sometimes that's all you'd
>> have until the sideways guys busted it into corn.  I had a stone that
>> I'd run down the face with a little oil then I'd burnish the edge with a
>> piece of drill rod to put a little hook in it.  If there wasn't enough
>> edge to work with, I'd go after the sides with some 400 grit wet-or dry
>> on a hard block with soap water until the edge was flush again.  Then I
>> could skate, if that's what was needed.  Worst people crash was going
>> over somebody's loose ski and gouging it up pretty good.  It was a new
>> ski.  Sad.  I tended to do all my hill bombing where the wobblies
>> weren't.  If the first 500ft was at 45 degrees, people would filter
>> themselves out.  Didn't need no damn black diamonds.
> 
> I saw a guy plow into a girl once at the bottom of a run, where he should
> have slowed down.  The girl went to the hospital, and the guy got cuffed
> and stuffed and went to the pokey to get poked.  Seems they don't cotton
> to reckless skiing when there's a wreck.
> 
sure you saw it , what a fk'ing liar

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