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| Started by | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-06-29 18:38 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-07-05 16:17 -0700 |
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Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 18:38 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 19:15 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 19:26 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 21:47 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 14:12 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 08:32 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 09:01 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 17:16 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 10:49 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-01 19:48 -0400
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-01 14:44 -0400
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-06 08:44 -0500
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 06:57 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 08:04 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 12:32 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 19:43 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 15:25 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 23:01 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 16:43 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 17:28 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 01:24 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 18:51 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 18:56 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-02 02:02 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 19:26 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-02 02:39 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 19:55 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-02 03:56 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 21:43 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 12:16 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 05:32 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 13:56 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-02 12:50 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 06:31 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 13:56 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-02 14:59 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 07:32 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 07:42 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-03 15:02 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 15:11 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-03 17:43 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-03 14:46 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 07:58 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-03 15:07 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 08:12 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 15:32 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-03 18:04 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 11:29 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 18:51 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 18:52 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 02:08 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 08:05 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 15:06 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 23:33 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-05 00:17 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 17:34 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-05 00:40 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 18:19 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 18:23 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-04 21:46 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-05 19:13 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 12:33 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 12:59 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 22:54 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 22:54 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-05 18:58 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 12:06 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 23:28 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 08:02 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 15:19 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 05:15 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-02 12:53 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-01 22:23 -0500
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 13:56 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 13:56 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 06:08 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 14:50 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 11:50 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 21:00 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 14:40 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 22:54 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 06:34 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-06 14:41 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 08:25 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 08:38 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-06 16:16 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 10:44 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 10:55 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-06 11:17 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:34 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-06 18:32 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 13:17 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:34 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:34 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:34 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-06 16:07 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:34 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 20:23 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 14:50 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 15:49 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 22:38 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 22:41 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 23:58 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 08:04 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 01:24 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 19:41 +0000
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-01 19:00 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-01 22:26 -0500
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-02 13:54 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 13:57 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 07:13 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-03 14:17 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-03 15:24 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 08:02 -0700
Re: Each dimension is a spin- 3 spins, 3 dimensions "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-05 16:17 -0700
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-07-05 19:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <phlqkd$h44$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #692626 |
john writes: >By the way , Odd - "The majority of 'elliptical' galaxies are not >spherical but disc-shaped, resembling spiral galaxies such as our own >Milky Way with the gas and dust removed, new observations suggest." >https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110714101631.htm That article is 7 years old now. Has anything of significance come of it in those years as far as forms and evolution of galaxies go? That doesn't mean much by itself. John wants the galaxies to get all retarded and precessing. What would be interesting is evidence of violations of various laws of physics that would require, not that a bunch of ellipticals are (non-retarded, non-precessing) disks. >So much for your "discs are in the minority" crap. >You gotta keep up, Odd He said _spirals_ are in the minority. This says that many _ellipticals_ are disks (not spirals). (glad to see you accept elliptical disks now... :-) )
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-05 12:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4386e324-60b2-4861-bc65-28b059c6579a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #692665 |
MM “ellipticals_ are disks (not spirals). (glad to see you accept elliptical disks now... ” It says right in front of your eyes “resembling spirals”. You two are a special kind of stupid
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-05 12:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <348759ba-ef8e-4a8e-9fbe-fb0c896e6c24@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #692667 |
Odd!! This concerns you!! Did you read further in the above link? “According to our survey only a small fraction of elliptical galaxies, the 'slow rotators', are genuine spheroids. It reveals a strong family resemblance between elliptical and spiral galaxies once we can adjust for whether we are seeing them face-on or from the side,' said Dr Cappellari. 'This close relationship will need to be considered in any future models of how galaxies form. It's an exciting moment, after four years of work in the project, we have the final piece of the puzzle which enables us to say that text-books used to teach astronomy for over 70 years now need to be revised.'” Your textbooks are- surprise!- wrong again, Odd
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-05 22:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <phm7j4$1cqd$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #692668 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd!! > This concerns you!! > Did you read further in the above link? > “According to our survey only a small fraction of elliptical galaxies, > the 'slow rotators', are genuine spheroids. It reveals a strong family > resemblance between elliptical and spiral galaxies once we can adjust for > whether we are seeing them face-on or from the side,' said Dr Cappellari. > 'This close relationship will need to be considered in any future models > of how galaxies form. It's an exciting moment, after four years of work > in the project, we have the final piece of the puzzle which enables us to > say that text-books used to teach astronomy for over 70 years now need to be revised.'” > > Your textbooks are- surprise!- wrong again, Odd > What do you think the scope of the revision will be? -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-05 22:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <phm7j3$1cqd$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #692667 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > MM > “ellipticals_ > are disks (not spirals). (glad to see you accept elliptical disks now... ” > It says right in front of your eyes “resembling spirals”. > You two are a special kind of stupid > You do know the classification scheme, right? Zebras resemble tigers. They are not tigers. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-07-05 18:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <phlpou$bk6$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #692625 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >"So tell us, why are elliptical spiral galaxies annoying? >" >Haha. >You're so funny, Michael OK, no answer, just like no answer _why_ point particles are illogical etc. Gotcha.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-05 12:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a384191d-4494-44fa-b834-b16b168aa591@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #692659 |
MM “ >You're so funny, Michael OK, no answer, just like no answer _why_ point particles are illogical etc. Gotcha. ” It wouldn’t matter what I said, Michael. You’re like Odd- in total denial
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-04 23:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <phjl6c$14j5$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #692596 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “Did you ever take statistics in high school, John? ” > I took it in University “ > > Bottom line: you can prove either side with it > BS John. BS. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-03 08:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8e1bd2cd-b8aa-4407-b0b4-39f234b83e30@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #692499 |
MM “Ok, Michael- so you're saying that the stars go different speeds on >the opposite sides of an ellipse, because an ellipse is asymmetrical? Simple orbital mechanics, John. Newton's laws, Kepler's Second Law and so forth. You'd kno” Gee, Michael, all the pictures of ellipses show the opposite points to always be symmetrical??
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-03 15:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <phg45m$1764$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #692502 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > MM > “Ok, Michael- so you're saying that the stars go different speeds on >> the opposite sides of an ellipse, because an ellipse is asymmetrical? > > Simple orbital mechanics, John. Newton's laws, Kepler's Second Law and > so forth. You'd kno” > > Gee, Michael, all the pictures of ellipses show the opposite points to > always be symmetrical?? > Galaxies are NEITHER smooth, uniform circular disks nor smooth, uniform elliptical disks. Look at pictures of them for Pete’s sake. And don’t squint to blur everything out except for general outline. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-02 05:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <447e1570-ea06-46eb-8889-5839d276d766@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #692392 |
MM “still no reference for your claim, and now this *new* claim has the two disks become circular (without reference)... ” I love seeing you and Odd backpedal; Discs aren’t necessarily circular. Got a reference? Two tools that lost their box
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-07-02 12:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <phd792$708$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #692398 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >MM >"still no reference for your claim, and now this *new* claim has >the two disks become circular (without reference)... " >I love seeing you and Odd backpedal; Huh? It is you who is trying to quibble over word definitions and not actual science, like whether a disk can be elliptical or not. >Discs aren't necessarily circular. Got a reference? Again: http://www.astronomy.com/news/2007/07/elliptical-disk-found-around-star There are others. >Two tools that lost their box You and who else, John?
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-01 22:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <phc5rt$flo$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #692387 |
On 7/1/2018 9:39 PM, Michael Moroney wrote: > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: > >> MM > [unsnip] >>>> "What makes you think there is no asymmetry in the Milky Way's rotation?" >>> It's circular. > >> Is it? Your reference? Or did you just pull something out of your butt > again? > [/unsnip] > >> "Your reference? Or did you just pull something out of your butt >> again? " >> New stuff happening all the time. >> For example, from the latest Hubble DATA: > >> 'When the astronomers split the stars up by age, they found that older >> stars tend to be in a slightly different plane than the younger ones, >> like there are two separate disks of stars. It's not clear why that might >> be,' >> Why do you and Odd think that might be? > > You answered a question I didn't ask. > > What is your reference for your claim the Milky Way is circular? > > Right now, it appears your claim is brown and smells bad. > Africa ?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-02 13:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <phdatn$g5q$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #692384 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > MM > “Your reference? Or did you just pull something out of your butt > again? ” > New stuff happening all the time. Yes there is new data all the time. Why do you think this spells trouble for a theory? When biologists discover a new species of fish does this spell doom for Darwinian evolution? > For example, from the latest Hubble DATA: > > ‘When the astronomers split the stars up by age, they found that older > stars tend to be in a slightly different plane than the younger ones, > like there are two separate disks of stars. It’s not clear why that might be,’ > Why do you and Odd think that might be? > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-02 13:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <phdato$g5q$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #692380 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “What makes you think there is no asymmetry in the Milky Way’s rotation? ” > It’s circular. > What makes you think there is? > Data. Observation. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-05 06:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8bbdd424-0737-4815-824a-d8a3e5814759@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #692378 |
Odd “Well for one thing, spiral galaxies are a minority type to begin with. That is an example of data answering your “why wouldn’t it?” question. ” ‘The majority of 'elliptical' galaxies are not spherical but disc-shaped, resembling spiral galaxies such as our own Milky Way with the gas and dust removed, new observations suggest.” https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110714101631.htm So much for your ‘discs are in the minority’ crap. You gotta keep up, Odd
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-05 14:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <phlb6o$1qcm$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #692642 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “Well for one thing, spiral galaxies are a minority type to begin with. That > is an example of data answering your “why wouldn’t it?” question. ” > > ‘The majority of 'elliptical' galaxies are not spherical but disc-shaped, > resembling spiral galaxies such as our own Milky Way with the gas and > dust removed, new observations suggest.” > > https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110714101631.htm > > So much for your ‘discs are in the minority’ crap. > You gotta keep up, Odd > You can’t read. I said that SPIRAL galaxies are the minority class, not flattened elliptical galaxies. Now John, ask yourself — better yet look it up — whether the data showing GRC asymmetry comes from spiral galaxies or flattened elliptical galaxies. Idiot. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-05 11:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9d3ec87a-7ca2-46b2-8638-f4a29d460543@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #692647 |
Odd “show quoted text - You can’t read. I said that SPIRAL galaxies are the minority class, not flattened elliptical g” YOU can’t read. It says the MAJORITY of galaxies resemble spirals That’s okay, Odd. I understand it’s stressful finding out that your precious bullshit is bullshit
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-05 21:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <phm0u0$1286$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #692658 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Odd > “show quoted text - > You can’t read. I said that SPIRAL galaxies are the minority class, not > flattened elliptical g” > YOU can’t read. > It says the MAJORITY of galaxies resemble spirals No it says they are more disk like. Not spirals. > That’s okay, Odd. > I understand it’s stressful finding out that your precious bullshit is bullshit > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-05 14:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <474bf77a-c88c-40c5-9f94-ec05da63885d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #692676 |
Odd “No it says they are more disk like. Not spirals. ” It is the spiral arms that MAKE the disc, you silly monkey.
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