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Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space)

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2018-06-24 09:25 -0700
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  Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 09:25 -0700
    Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 23:21 +0000
      Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-24 21:36 -0700
        Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-24 23:24 -0700
      Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 07:39 -0700
        Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 15:18 +0000
          Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 15:31 +0000
            Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 09:15 -0700
              Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 16:42 +0000
                Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 12:09 -0700
                  Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-06-25 13:16 -0700
                  Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 20:46 +0000
                    Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 14:18 -0700
                      Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 21:30 +0000
                        Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 21:31 +0000
                      Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 16:11 -0700
                        Re: Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space) john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 20:51 -0700

#691742 — Matter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space)

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-24 09:25 -0700
SubjectMatter versus Smaller-fractal matter (Space)
Message-ID<c2307018-5fa4-4ec0-a636-1a6e3cc4610f@googlegroups.com>
The Universe is Fractal.
Matter and it’s radiations recur as and are made from smaller versions of themselves at regular size intervals.
The next size down manifests as our invisible Space, which nonetheless is made from and FULL OF these smaller iterations of our matter.
The difference becomes manifest with black holes. Since they are composed of Space (smaller-iteration matter), they can rotate at Lightspeed- and do- and in fact are powered by light. Our matter cannot go that fast, and when it orbits too closely, it gets going so fast that the magnetic repulsion of its charges overwhelms their electrical attraction and the matter EXPLODES away as jets at right-angles to the disk.
 https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/swift/bursts/shredded-star.html

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#691767

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-24 23:21 +0000
Message-ID<pgp92h$vj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#691742
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Universe is Fractal.

Unsupported speculation with no quantitative predictions to test. You’re
done. 

> Matter and it’s radiations recur as and are made from smaller versions of
> themselves at regular size intervals.
> The next size down manifests as our invisible Space, which nonetheless is
> made from and FULL OF these smaller iterations of our matter.
> The difference becomes manifest with black holes. Since they are composed
> of Space (smaller-iteration matter), they can rotate at Lightspeed- and
> do- and in fact are powered by light. Our matter cannot go that fast, and
> when it orbits too closely, it gets going so fast that the magnetic
> repulsion of its charges overwhelms their electrical attraction and the
> matter EXPLODES away as jets at right-angles to the disk.
>  https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/swift/bursts/shredded-star.html
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#691793

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-06-24 21:36 -0700
Message-ID<29ff725b-67c6-418a-b46e-25d345cf3182@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691767
On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 4:21:59 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The Universe is Fractal.
> 
> Unsupported speculation with no quantitative predictions to test. You’re
> done. 
> 
> > Matter and it’s radiations recur as and are made from smaller versions of
> > themselves at regular size intervals.
> > The next size down manifests as our invisible Space, which nonetheless is
> > made from and FULL OF these smaller iterations of our matter.
> > The difference becomes manifest with black holes. Since they are composed
> > of Space (smaller-iteration matter), they can rotate at Lightspeed- and
> > do- and in fact are powered by light. Our matter cannot go that fast, and
> > when it orbits too closely, it gets going so fast that the magnetic
> > repulsion of its charges overwhelms their electrical attraction and the
> > matter EXPLODES away as jets at right-angles to the disk.
> >  https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/swift/bursts/shredded-star.html
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Space is 3 Dimensional Its quantized at the infinitely small 
aether cube making a lattice.
Time alone doesn't do it Roy Masters...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#691801

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-06-24 23:24 -0700
Message-ID<c05c7c7c-a82e-447b-875d-fbeaa7a578d7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691793
On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 7:36:41 AM UTC+3, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 4:21:59 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The Universe is Fractal.
> > 
> > Unsupported speculation with no quantitative predictions to test. You’re
> > done. 
> > 
> > > Matter and it’s radiations recur as and are made from smaller versions of
> > > themselves at regular size intervals.
> > > The next size down manifests as our invisible Space, which nonetheless is
> > > made from and FULL OF these smaller iterations of our matter.
> > > The difference becomes manifest with black holes. Since they are composed
> > > of Space (smaller-iteration matter), they can rotate at Lightspeed- and
> > > do- and in fact are powered by light. Our matter cannot go that fast, and
> > > when it orbits too closely, it gets going so fast that the magnetic
> > > repulsion of its charges overwhelms their electrical attraction and the
> > > matter EXPLODES away as jets at right-angles to the disk.
> > >  https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/swift/bursts/shredded-star.html
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> Space is 3 Dimensional Its quantized at the infinitely small 
> aether cube making a lattice.
> Time alone doesn't do it Roy Masters...
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
-----------------------------------
=================================
no Aether an d no schmeather 

we
don t need them !!!

all the matter properties   
are in mass !!
==========================================================================

MASS*** BESIDE ITS BEING 'MASS'' - IS THE CREATOR ' OF ALLFORCES AS WELL!!
===========================================================================
historic revolutionary  innovation /insight 

=====
Y.Porat
=========================


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#691815

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-25 07:39 -0700
Message-ID<64de0d0b-4a92-4f5c-96dc-27bf1521b360@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691767
Odd
“You’re 
done. ”
Odds deepest fear- he’s done!!

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#691817

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-25 15:18 +0000
Message-ID<pgr149$nup$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#691815
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “You’re 
> done. ”
> Odds deepest fear- he’s done!!

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#691819

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-25 15:31 +0000
Message-ID<pgr1tf$pad$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#691817
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Odd
>> “You’re 
>> done. ”
>> Odds deepest fear- he’s done!!
> 

I should have said, you’re still standing ten feet behind the starting
gate. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#691821

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-25 09:15 -0700
Message-ID<31f75192-a888-4b71-97cf-d6b9f47340a4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691819
Odd
“ should have said, you’re still standing ten feet behind the starting 
gate. ”
Waiting for you to get out of the way. I’m almost finished this race, and you still think imaginary ‘point’ particles of all imaginable kinds are intelligently controlling everything in a random way. What. A. Tard.

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#691823

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-25 16:42 +0000
Message-ID<pgr61p$10qu$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#691821
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “ should have said, you’re still standing ten feet behind the starting 
> gate. ”
> Waiting for you to get out of the way. I’m almost finished this race, 

Well, John, this is then a race of your own design with only one runner —
you. 

Your goals don’t have anything in common with the objectives of science,
and all you’re really looking for is some creative representation of your
imagination about how something looks and how it moves. 

It’s a little like entering yourself as a horse in the Kentucky Derby, but
when the gate opens, you turn immediately to the inside rail to munch
grass, and then you say “I won!”

> and you still think imaginary ‘point’ particles of all imaginable kinds
> are intelligently controlling everything in a random way. What. A. Tard.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#691835

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-25 12:09 -0700
Message-ID<a280b768-4369-4a69-a725-83bcb30fc3f8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691823
Odd
And you’re still in point particle land

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#691838

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-06-25 13:16 -0700
Message-ID<3a457b79-15ef-40e5-82e3-e8bfe678e41d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691835
On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 12:09:10 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
> Odd
> And you’re still in point particle land

Stop talking to yourself Roy Masters...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#691844

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-25 20:46 +0000
Message-ID<pgrkat$1q0d$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#691835
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> And you’re still in point particle land
> 

Well yes, because that matches data. It doesn’t match your world view that
says other things must be true, but they do match data. 

Science, you see, favors data over John Sefton’s world view. It’s funny
that way. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#691849

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-25 14:18 -0700
Message-ID<7e164355-173f-40af-b9f2-b17f7142bb56@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691844
Odd
“> And you’re still in point particle land 
> 

Well yes, b”

Point particle land’s sky is falling

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#691850

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-25 21:30 +0000
Message-ID<pgrmu5$1u9f$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#691849
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
>> And you’re still in point particle land 
>> 
> 
> Well yes, b”
> 
> Point particle land’s sky is falling
> 

According to what data?

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#691851

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-25 21:31 +0000
Message-ID<pgrmvq$1uan$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#691850
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Odd
>>> And you’re still in point particle land 
>>> 
>> 
>> Well yes, b”
>> 
>> Point particle land’s sky is falling
>> 
> 
> According to what data?
> 

Ah I forgot. Future data not seen yet. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#691865

FromAlan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-25 16:11 -0700
Message-ID<23398abe-6b01-446b-bee9-18565b604fdb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691849
On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 11:18:34 AM UTC-10, john wrote:
> Odd
> “> And you’re still in point particle land 
> > 
> 
> Well yes, b”
> 
> Point particle land’s sky is falling

John, your insights are profound. The atom is like a little universe.
Using the electron as the frame of reference, an observer looks up
at the sky above the electron and sees the proton as the sky. A
ribbon sky rises up from the electron. Two space dimensions
fall into the electron and a time-like dimension grows up. Just
like the Earth and sky.

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#691898

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-25 20:51 -0700
Message-ID<f4b41ae9-d0c1-4601-9f17-86602b36debc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691865
Alan
“universe. 
Using the electron as the frame of reference, an observer looks up 
at the sky above the electron and sees the proton as the sky. A 
ribbon sky rises up from the electron. Two space dimensions
fall into the electron and a time-like dimension grows up. Just 
like the Earth and sk”
Come to my cabin by the lake in Saskatchewan.
Free rent.
We’ll discuss it until your volcano settles down

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