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| First post | 2018-06-19 04:48 -0700 |
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Does this sound familiar ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 04:48 -0700
Re: Does this sound familiar ? Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 09:19 -0500
Karl Marx lived it. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 08:08 -0700
Re: Karl Marx lived it. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 10:23 -0500
Marx lied. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 08:53 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 08:59 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:04 -0500
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 09:11 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:24 -0500
Re: Marx lied. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-19 11:55 -0500
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 17:06 -0400
Re: Marx lied. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-20 07:50 -0500
Re: Marx lied. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-21 03:11 +0000
Somali pirates tax ships, as (para)governments do. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-21 11:36 -0700
Re: Somali pirates tax ships, as (para)governments do. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 17:33 -0400
It's my fault. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-21 15:20 -0700
Re: It's my fault. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-21 23:29 +0100
Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-21 16:05 -0700
Re: Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 00:25 +0100
The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-21 22:34 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-22 13:50 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 20:24 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 12:39 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 20:55 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:01 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 21:15 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:18 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 21:31 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-22 22:13 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 15:25 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-22 22:30 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 23:38 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-22 21:01 -0400
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 23:33 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-22 20:59 -0400
Re: It's my fault. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 21:24 -0400
Re: It's my fault. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 21:23 -0400
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 16:54 -0400
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 16:04 -0500
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 18:31 -0400
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 19:13 -0500
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 16:52 -0400
Marxism didn't work for Marx himself, nor anyone else. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 17:36 -0700
Re: Marxism didn't work for Marx himself, nor anyone else. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 20:07 -0500
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 16:46 -0400
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 16:03 -0500
SuperDeterminism is a better religion. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 18:14 -0700
Re: SuperDeterminism is a better religion. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-20 03:21 +0000
Does "Bell's Inequality" require perfect knowledge ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 23:35 -0700
Re: Does "Bell's Inequality" require perfect knowledge ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 12:17 -0400
Re: Does "Bell's Inequality" require perfect knowledge ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 21:13 -0700
Re: SuperDeterminism is a better religion. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 12:14 -0400
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 14:15 -0700
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 18:17 -0400
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 15:29 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:00 -0500
Not one of Karl Marx's 8 kids did well. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 17:28 -0700
Re: Not one of Karl Marx's 8 kids did well. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 19:34 -0500
When sane, you prefer the LeastBad "option", not perfection. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-20 01:40 -0700
Re: When sane, you prefer the LeastBad "option", not perfection. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 01:48 -0700
Re: Karl Marx lived it. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 11:58 -0400
Re: Karl Marx lived it. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:09 -0500
Re: Does this sound familiar ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 11:26 -0400
Re: Does this sound familiar ? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-06-19 14:12 -0700
"Marxism" is a euphemism for "Feudalism". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 18:24 -0700
Re: "Marxism" is a euphemism for "Feudalism". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 01:32 -0700
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-06-22 13:50 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <pgiurs$epr$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #691527 |
Jeff-Relf.Me @. writes: >Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. Of course the only problem with that is the energy/exergy of gravitation is constantly INCREASING as matter of the universe flies apart. (not a violation of increasing entropy, it comes from the kinetic energy of motion of the galaxies) And, of course, weakening of gravity has never been observed.
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| From | onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) |
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| Date | 2018-06-22 20:24 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <1nqtc7o.1t2i7rodm2piaN%onion@anon.invalid> |
| In reply to | #691527 |
<Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
> You (onion) replied ( to me ):
> > I don't understand [...] eXergy.
>
> Google says:
>
Does not Google merely point one to pages that make
otherwise unsupported assertions? i.e. that:-
>
> "Exergy" is the energy that is _available_ to be used.
> After the system and surroundings reach equilibrium, the exergy is zero.
> Determining exergy was the first goal of thermodynamics.
>
> "The heat death of the universe" is a plausible ultimate fate
> of the universe in which the universe has diminished to a state of
> "no thermodynamic free energy" ["no eXergy"] and, therefore,
> can no longer sustain processes that increase entropy.
>
> At the start, there was "no entropy" ("no time, no space"), just "eXergy"
> ( a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ).
>
> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
> but none of the eXergy. Gravity is residual eXergy.
>
> Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time.
>
> Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^?52 / Meters^2 ) tells us
> that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off;
> -- i.e. the "Heat Death" predicted by Lord Kelvin, 1852,
> is the most likley outcome.
>
That does not enhance my understanding of "exergy"; maybe
I'm just not intelligent enough for such an abstruse concept.
Can you please explain it more clearly, in layman's terms?
--
\|/
(((Ï))) U+97F1
Wearing an On!on on his belt, which was the style at the time.
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-22 12:39 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <bcg8qq.8m0.17.4@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #691567 |
On 2018-06-22 12:24 PM, Mr On!on wrote:
> <Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>
>> You (onion) replied ( to me ):
>>> I don't understand [...] eXergy.
>>
>> Google says:
>>
>
> Does not Google merely point one to pages that make
> otherwise unsupported assertions? i.e. that:-
>
>>
>> "Exergy" is the energy that is _available_ to be used.
>> After the system and surroundings reach equilibrium, the exergy is zero.
>> Determining exergy was the first goal of thermodynamics.
>>
>> "The heat death of the universe" is a plausible ultimate fate
>> of the universe in which the universe has diminished to a state of
>> "no thermodynamic free energy" ["no eXergy"] and, therefore,
>> can no longer sustain processes that increase entropy.
>>
>> At the start, there was "no entropy" ("no time, no space"), just "eXergy"
>> ( a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ).
>>
>> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
>> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
>> but none of the eXergy. Gravity is residual eXergy.
>>
>> Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time.
>>
>> Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^?52 / Meters^2 ) tells us
>> that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off;
>> -- i.e. the "Heat Death" predicted by Lord Kelvin, 1852,
>> is the most likley outcome.
>>
>
> That does not enhance my understanding of "exergy"; maybe
> I'm just not intelligent enough for such an abstruse concept.
> Can you please explain it more clearly, in layman's terms?
>
In thermodynamics, the exergy of a system is the maximum useful work
possible during a process that brings the system into equilibrium with a
heat reservoir. When the surroundings are the reservoir, exergy is the
potential of a system to cause a change as it achieves equilibrium with
its environment. Exergy is the energy that is available to be used.
After the system and surroundings reach equilibrium, the exergy is zero.
Determining exergy was also the first goal of thermodynamics. The term
"exergy" was coined in 1956 by Zoran Rant by using the Greek ex and
ergon meaning "from work", but the concept was developed by J. Willard
Gibbs in 1873.
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| From | onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) |
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| Date | 2018-06-22 20:55 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <1nqtdtv.18wonwr7wjpwcN%onion@anon.invalid> |
| In reply to | #691568 |
% <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-06-22 12:24 PM, Mr On!on wrote:
> > <Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
> >
> >> You (onion) replied ( to me ):
> >>> I don't understand [...] eXergy.
> >>
> >> Google says:
> >>
> >
> > Does not Google merely point one to pages that make
> > otherwise unsupported assertions? i.e. that:-
> >
> >>
> >> "Exergy" is the energy that is _available_ to be used.
> >> After the system and surroundings reach equilibrium, the exergy is zero.
> >> Determining exergy was the first goal of thermodynamics.
> >>
> >> "The heat death of the universe" is a plausible ultimate fate
> >> of the universe in which the universe has diminished to a state of
> >> "no thermodynamic free energy" ["no eXergy"] and, therefore,
> >> can no longer sustain processes that increase entropy.
> >>
> >> At the start, there was "no entropy" ("no time, no space"), just "eXergy"
> >> ( a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ).
> >>
> >> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
> >> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
> >> but none of the eXergy. Gravity is residual eXergy.
> >>
> >> Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time.
> >>
> >> Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^?52 / Meters^2 ) tells us
> >> that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off;
> >> -- i.e. the "Heat Death" predicted by Lord Kelvin, 1852,
> >> is the most likley outcome.
> >>
> >
> > That does not enhance my understanding of "exergy"; maybe
> > I'm just not intelligent enough for such an abstruse concept.
> > Can you please explain it more clearly, in layman's terms?
> >
> In thermodynamics, the exergy of a system is the maximum useful work
> possible during a process that brings the system into equilibrium with a
> heat reservoir. When the surroundings are the reservoir, exergy is the
> potential of a system to cause a change as it achieves equilibrium with
> its environment. Exergy is the energy that is available to be used.
> After the system and surroundings reach equilibrium, the exergy is zero.
> Determining exergy was also the first goal of thermodynamics. The term
> "exergy" was coined in 1956 by Zoran Rant by using the Greek ex and
> ergon meaning "from work", but the concept was developed by J. Willard
> Gibbs in 1873.
>
OK, I think I've got that, thank you.
Q:
Is a system that is colder than its heat reservoir more
or less energetic than one that is hotter than its ditto?
How does that energy (exergy?) arise?
--
\|/
(((Ï))) U+97F1
Wearing an On!on on his belt, which was the style at the time.
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-22 13:01 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <bcga47.8m0.17.19@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #691570 |
On 2018-06-22 12:55 PM, Mr On!on wrote:
> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-06-22 12:24 PM, Mr On!on wrote:
>>> <Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You (onion) replied ( to me ):
>>>>> I don't understand [...] eXergy.
>>>>
>>>> Google says:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Does not Google merely point one to pages that make
>>> otherwise unsupported assertions? i.e. that:-
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Exergy" is the energy that is _available_ to be used.
>>>> After the system and surroundings reach equilibrium, the exergy is zero.
>>>> Determining exergy was the first goal of thermodynamics.
>>>>
>>>> "The heat death of the universe" is a plausible ultimate fate
>>>> of the universe in which the universe has diminished to a state of
>>>> "no thermodynamic free energy" ["no eXergy"] and, therefore,
>>>> can no longer sustain processes that increase entropy.
>>>>
>>>> At the start, there was "no entropy" ("no time, no space"), just "eXergy"
>>>> ( a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ).
>>>>
>>>> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
>>>> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
>>>> but none of the eXergy. Gravity is residual eXergy.
>>>>
>>>> Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time.
>>>>
>>>> Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^?52 / Meters^2 ) tells us
>>>> that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off;
>>>> -- i.e. the "Heat Death" predicted by Lord Kelvin, 1852,
>>>> is the most likley outcome.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That does not enhance my understanding of "exergy"; maybe
>>> I'm just not intelligent enough for such an abstruse concept.
>>> Can you please explain it more clearly, in layman's terms?
>>>
>> In thermodynamics, the exergy of a system is the maximum useful work
>> possible during a process that brings the system into equilibrium with a
>> heat reservoir. When the surroundings are the reservoir, exergy is the
>> potential of a system to cause a change as it achieves equilibrium with
>> its environment. Exergy is the energy that is available to be used.
>> After the system and surroundings reach equilibrium, the exergy is zero.
>> Determining exergy was also the first goal of thermodynamics. The term
>> "exergy" was coined in 1956 by Zoran Rant by using the Greek ex and
>> ergon meaning "from work", but the concept was developed by J. Willard
>> Gibbs in 1873.
>>
>
> OK, I think I've got that, thank you.
>
> Q:
> Is a system that is colder than its heat reservoir more
> or less energetic than one that is hotter than its ditto?
> How does that energy (exergy?) arise?
>
you best have a look at google ,
there's lots of info there and ,
they all agree on what it is ,
here you'll get 100's of alternative answers
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| From | onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-22 21:15 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <1nqtet2.17by8ttk4fil9N%onion@anon.invalid> |
| In reply to | #691571 |
% <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-06-22 12:55 PM, Mr On!on wrote:
> > % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2018-06-22 12:24 PM, Mr On!on wrote:
> >>> <Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You (onion) replied ( to me ):
> >>>>> I don't understand [...] eXergy.
> >>>>
> >>>> Google says:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Does not Google merely point one to pages that make
> >>> otherwise unsupported assertions? i.e. that:-
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Exergy" is the energy that is _available_ to be used. After the
> >>>> system and surroundings reach equilibrium, the exergy is zero.
> >>>> Determining exergy was the first goal of thermodynamics.
> >>>>
> >>>> "The heat death of the universe" is a plausible ultimate fate of
> >>>> the universe in which the universe has diminished to a state of
> >>>> "no thermodynamic free energy" ["no eXergy"] and, therefore, can
> >>>> no longer sustain processes that increase entropy.
> >>>>
> >>>> At the start, there was "no entropy" ("no time, no space"), just
> >>>> "eXergy" ( a type of energy that can do physical work, force *
> >>>> distance ).
> >>>>
> >>>> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
> >>>> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy but
> >>>> none of the eXergy. Gravity is residual eXergy.
> >>>>
> >>>> Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^?52 / Meters^2 ) tells
> >>>> us that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off;
> >>>> -- i.e. the "Heat Death" predicted by Lord Kelvin, 1852, is the most
> >>>> likley outcome.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> That does not enhance my understanding of "exergy"; maybe
> >>> I'm just not intelligent enough for such an abstruse concept.
> >>> Can you please explain it more clearly, in layman's terms?
> >>>
> >> In thermodynamics, the exergy of a system is the maximum useful work
> >> possible during a process that brings the system into equilibrium with
> >> a heat reservoir. When the surroundings are the reservoir, exergy is
> >> the potential of a system to cause a change as it achieves equilibrium
> >> with its environment. Exergy is the energy that is available to be
> >> used. After the system and surroundings reach equilibrium, the exergy
> >> is zero. Determining exergy was also the first goal of thermodynamics.
> >> The term "exergy" was coined in 1956 by Zoran Rant by using the Greek
> >> ex and ergon meaning "from work", but the concept was developed by J.
> >> Willard Gibbs in 1873.
> >>
> >
> > OK, I think I've got that, thank you.
> >
> > Q:
> > Is a system that is colder than its heat reservoir more
> > or less energetic than one that is hotter than its ditto?
> > How does that energy (exergy?) arise?
> >
>
> you best have a look at google ,
> there's lots of info there and ,
> they all agree on what it is ,
> here you'll get 100's of alternative answers
>
I'm not sure that I trust Google answers. I'd like to get
<Jeff-Relf.Me>'s take on the question, he seems to know lots
about this sort of stuff.
--
\|/
(((Ï))) U+97F1
Wearing an On!on on his belt, which was the style at the time.
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-22 13:18 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <bcgb3a.snj.17.1@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #691572 |
On 2018-06-22 1:15 PM, Mr On!on wrote:
> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-06-22 12:55 PM, Mr On!on wrote:
>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-06-22 12:24 PM, Mr On!on wrote:
>>>>> <Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You (onion) replied ( to me ):
>>>>>>> I don't understand [...] eXergy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Google says:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does not Google merely point one to pages that make
>>>>> otherwise unsupported assertions? i.e. that:-
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Exergy" is the energy that is _available_ to be used. After the
>>>>>> system and surroundings reach equilibrium, the exergy is zero.
>>>>>> Determining exergy was the first goal of thermodynamics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The heat death of the universe" is a plausible ultimate fate of
>>>>>> the universe in which the universe has diminished to a state of
>>>>>> "no thermodynamic free energy" ["no eXergy"] and, therefore, can
>>>>>> no longer sustain processes that increase entropy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the start, there was "no entropy" ("no time, no space"), just
>>>>>> "eXergy" ( a type of energy that can do physical work, force *
>>>>>> distance ).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
>>>>>> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy but
>>>>>> none of the eXergy. Gravity is residual eXergy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^?52 / Meters^2 ) tells
>>>>>> us that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off;
>>>>>> -- i.e. the "Heat Death" predicted by Lord Kelvin, 1852, is the most
>>>>>> likley outcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That does not enhance my understanding of "exergy"; maybe
>>>>> I'm just not intelligent enough for such an abstruse concept.
>>>>> Can you please explain it more clearly, in layman's terms?
>>>>>
>>>> In thermodynamics, the exergy of a system is the maximum useful work
>>>> possible during a process that brings the system into equilibrium with
>>>> a heat reservoir. When the surroundings are the reservoir, exergy is
>>>> the potential of a system to cause a change as it achieves equilibrium
>>>> with its environment. Exergy is the energy that is available to be
>>>> used. After the system and surroundings reach equilibrium, the exergy
>>>> is zero. Determining exergy was also the first goal of thermodynamics.
>>>> The term "exergy" was coined in 1956 by Zoran Rant by using the Greek
>>>> ex and ergon meaning "from work", but the concept was developed by J.
>>>> Willard Gibbs in 1873.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK, I think I've got that, thank you.
>>>
>>> Q:
>>> Is a system that is colder than its heat reservoir more
>>> or less energetic than one that is hotter than its ditto?
>>> How does that energy (exergy?) arise?
>>>
>>
>> you best have a look at google ,
>> there's lots of info there and ,
>> they all agree on what it is ,
>> here you'll get 100's of alternative answers
>>
>
> I'm not sure that I trust Google answers. I'd like to get
> <Jeff-Relf.Me>'s take on the question, he seems to know lots
> about this sort of stuff.
>
you're welcome , glad i could help
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| From | onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) |
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| Date | 2018-06-22 21:31 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <1nqtfs4.bu48sdwqb5opN%onion@anon.invalid> |
| In reply to | #691573 |
% <persent@gmail.com> wrote: > you're welcome , glad i could help :) -- \|/ (((Ï))) U+97F1 Wearing an On!on on his belt, which was the style at the time.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2018-06-22 22:13 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <fp5al6F9vf0U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #691574 |
On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:31:42 +0100, Mr On!on wrote: > % <persent@gmail.com> wrote: > >> you're welcome , glad i could help > > :) TEMPORAL LAW: THE SOLUTION TO ALL HEALTH, SEXUAL AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS ALL modern evils stem from the failure to recognise and live by time law. Just as there are three entities in the Holy Trinity, there are three component colours in white light. This is because of TIME LAW. temporal law is encoded in the Bible. the Rosicrucians destroyed Wilhelm Reich because he knew too much. They altered the Bible to hide the secret of temporal law. Tesla knew too much about the principle of electro-volumetric equivalence; that is why the Knights Templar destroyed him. the universal temporal constant is 1.15324865958156919467. ONLY from this value can one derive the UNIVERSE'S MISSING DAY. End violence, disease, famine, etc. -- adopt cosmic matrix theory now! -- -v
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| From | Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-22 15:25 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <MPG.35971747a8867149993fe7@news.altopia.com> |
| In reply to | #691595 |
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate! In article <fp5al6F9vf0U3@mid.individual.net>, vallor@cultnix.org says... > > On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:31:42 +0100, Mr On!on wrote: > > > % <persent@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> you're welcome , glad i could help > > > > :) > > TEMPORAL LAW: THE SOLUTION TO ALL HEALTH, SEXUAL AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS > > > ALL modern evils stem from the failure to recognise and live by time law. Just > as there are three entities in the Holy Trinity, there are three component > colours in white light. This is because of TIME LAW. temporal law is encoded in > the Bible. > > the Rosicrucians destroyed Wilhelm Reich because he knew too much. They altered > the Bible to hide the secret of temporal law. Tesla knew too much about the > principle of electro-volumetric equivalence; that is why the Knights Templar > destroyed him. > > the universal temporal constant is 1.15324865958156919467. ONLY from this value > can one derive the UNIVERSE'S MISSING DAY. > > End violence, disease, famine, etc. -- adopt cosmic matrix theory now! You're joking... right? I never know, considering some of the shit I read here. -- Checkmate ® Author, Humorist, Cynic Philosopher, Humanitarian Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars Usenet Shot-Caller Copyright © 2018 all rights reserved In loving memory of The Battle Kitten May 2010-February 12, 2017 "There are many here among us, who feel that life is but a joke." "I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as kensi." -Nadegda Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me>
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-22 22:30 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <fp5bkmF9vf0U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #691596 |
On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 15:25:45 -0700, Checkmate wrote: > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by > Checkmate! In article <fp5al6F9vf0U3@mid.individual.net>, > vallor@cultnix.org says... > > > >> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:31:42 +0100, Mr On!on wrote: >> >> > % <persent@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> you're welcome , glad i could help >> > >> > :) >> >> TEMPORAL LAW: THE SOLUTION TO ALL HEALTH, SEXUAL AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS >> >> >> ALL modern evils stem from the failure to recognise and live by time >> law. Just as there are three entities in the Holy Trinity, there are >> three component colours in white light. This is because of TIME LAW. >> temporal law is encoded in the Bible. >> >> the Rosicrucians destroyed Wilhelm Reich because he knew too much. They >> altered the Bible to hide the secret of temporal law. Tesla knew too >> much about the principle of electro-volumetric equivalence; that is why >> the Knights Templar destroyed him. >> >> the universal temporal constant is 1.15324865958156919467. ONLY from >> this value can one derive the UNIVERSE'S MISSING DAY. >> >> End violence, disease, famine, etc. -- adopt cosmic matrix theory now! > > You're joking... right? I never know, considering some of the shit I > read here. Yes, it's the output of a script from the dada engine, called "crackpot". -- -v Another example... NATURE'S LAW OF ATOMIC TOTALITY: THE END OF UNEMPLOYMENT, DRUG ADDICTION, ETC. ALL modern problems stem from the failure to recognise Nature's law of atomic totality. All books were altered to conceal the cosmic truth about harmonic gravity field theory. They altered the Bible to hide the TRUTH about the principle of HARMONIC-ELECTRO-NATURAL EQUIVALENCE. the Secret Overlords destroyed Wilhelm Reich because he knew too much. the Knights Templar don't want anyone to know the COSMIC TRUTH about vibrational physics. Galileo knew all about the principle of HARMONIC-ELECTRO-NATURAL EQUIVALENCE; that is why the Secret Overlords destroyed him. the true hidden value of pi is 3.68. only from this value can one derive the MISSING MASS OF THE UNIVERSE. Achieve ultimate omniversal awareness today! Just follow these 5 easy steps. 1. Adopt universal wave theory. 2. Turn away from the international money power. 3. Learn the principle of HARMONIC-ELECTRO-NATURAL EQUIVALENCE. 4. Turn away from Satan's international media brainwashing empire. 5. Make the divine principle of time normalisation your guide. NOTHING COULD BE SIMPLER!
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| From | onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-22 23:38 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <1nqtlnj.1tw5vg81p7uiukN%onion@anon.invalid> |
| In reply to | #691598 |
vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 15:25:45 -0700, Checkmate wrote: > > > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by > > Checkmate! In article <fp5al6F9vf0U3@mid.individual.net>, > > vallor@cultnix.org says... > > > > > > > >> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:31:42 +0100, Mr On!on wrote: > >> > >> > % <persent@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> you're welcome , glad i could help > >> > > >> > :) > >> > >> TEMPORAL LAW: THE SOLUTION TO ALL HEALTH, SEXUAL AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS > >> > >> > >> ALL modern evils stem from the failure to recognise and live by time > >> law. Just as there are three entities in the Holy Trinity, there are > >> three component colours in white light. This is because of TIME LAW. > >> temporal law is encoded in the Bible. > >> > >> the Rosicrucians destroyed Wilhelm Reich because he knew too much. They > >> altered the Bible to hide the secret of temporal law. Tesla knew too > >> much about the principle of electro-volumetric equivalence; that is why > >> the Knights Templar destroyed him. > >> > >> the universal temporal constant is 1.15324865958156919467. ONLY from > >> this value can one derive the UNIVERSE'S MISSING DAY. > >> > >> End violence, disease, famine, etc. -- adopt cosmic matrix theory now! > > > > You're joking... right? I never know, considering some of the shit I > > read here. > > Yes, it's the output of a script from the dada engine, called "crackpot". Colour me embarrassed, darn it! -- \|/ (((Ï))) U+97F1 Wearing an On!on on his belt, which was the style at the time.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-22 21:01 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <WZgXC.292736$Hv4.7760@fx39.iad> |
| In reply to | #691596 |
On 6/22/2018 6:25 PM, Checkmate wrote: > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by > Checkmate! In article <fp5al6F9vf0U3@mid.individual.net>, > vallor@cultnix.org says... > > >> >> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:31:42 +0100, Mr On!on wrote: >> >>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> you're welcome , glad i could help >>> >>> :) >> >> TEMPORAL LAW: THE SOLUTION TO ALL HEALTH, SEXUAL AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS >> >> >> ALL modern evils stem from the failure to recognise and live by time law. Just >> as there are three entities in the Holy Trinity, there are three component >> colours in white light. This is because of TIME LAW. temporal law is encoded in >> the Bible. >> >> the Rosicrucians destroyed Wilhelm Reich because he knew too much. They altered >> the Bible to hide the secret of temporal law. Tesla knew too much about the >> principle of electro-volumetric equivalence; that is why the Knights Templar >> destroyed him. >> >> the universal temporal constant is 1.15324865958156919467. ONLY from this value >> can one derive the UNIVERSE'S MISSING DAY. >> >> End violence, disease, famine, etc. -- adopt cosmic matrix theory now! > > You're joking... right? I never know, considering some of the shit I > read here. > Everyone here is joking, mate! (Well except for the warm-baller/Trump-hater/leftists...They are serious, and lying)
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| From | onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-22 23:33 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <1nqtktc.dykpta1qlssliN%onion@anon.invalid> |
| In reply to | #691595 |
vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:31:42 +0100, Mr On!on wrote: > > > % <persent@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> you're welcome , glad i could help > > > > :) > > TEMPORAL LAW: THE SOLUTION TO ALL HEALTH, SEXUAL AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS > > > ALL modern evils stem from the failure to recognise and live by time law. > Just as there are three entities in the Holy Trinity, there are three > component colours in white light. This is because of TIME LAW. temporal > law is encoded in the Bible. > > the Rosicrucians destroyed Wilhelm Reich because he knew too much. They > altered the Bible to hide the secret of temporal law. Tesla knew too much > about the principle of electro-volumetric equivalence; that is why the > Knights Templar destroyed him. > > the universal temporal constant is 1.15324865958156919467. ONLY from this > value can one derive the UNIVERSE'S MISSING DAY. > > End violence, disease, famine, etc. -- adopt cosmic matrix theory now! > Whoah, vallor! That's a lot to digest at one sitting; please tell me more about TIME LAW, the Rosicrucians, the Knights Templar and the UNIVERSE'S MISSING DAY. Also, are you absolutely certain that the universal temporal constant is exactly 1.15324865958156919467? That's quite precise, almost unnaturally so. With that reservation in mind: I am more than willing to embrace cosmic matrix theory but I need rather more than mere unsupported assertions. Having said that: the concept of TEMPORAL LAW is certainly beguiling... -- \|/ (((Ï))) U+97F1 Wearing an On!on on his belt, which was the style at the time.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-22 20:59 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Message-ID | <BXgXC.292735$Hv4.128033@fx39.iad> |
| In reply to | #691595 |
On 6/22/2018 6:13 PM, vallor wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:31:42 +0100, Mr On!on wrote: > >> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> you're welcome , glad i could help >> >> :) > > TEMPORAL LAW: THE SOLUTION TO ALL HEALTH, SEXUAL AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS > > > ALL modern evils stem from the failure to recognise and live by time law. Just > as there are three entities in the Holy Trinity, there are three component > colours in white light. This is because of TIME LAW. temporal law is encoded in > the Bible. > > the Rosicrucians destroyed Wilhelm Reich because he knew too much. They altered > the Bible to hide the secret of temporal law. Tesla knew too much about the > principle of electro-volumetric equivalence; that is why the Knights Templar > destroyed him. > > the universal temporal constant is 1.15324865958156919467. ONLY from this value > can one derive the UNIVERSE'S MISSING DAY. > > End violence, disease, famine, etc. -- adopt cosmic matrix theory now! > Wow he got so many of the Kook trigger words into a post that ALMOST seems to not be gibberish. Getting Tesla, Reich, Rosicrucians, and Knights Templar all in one paragraph deserves honorable mention. Too bad the men were killed by deep government not according to his disinformation.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-21 21:24 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: It's my fault. |
| Message-ID | <1dYWC.358675$br4.331363@fx34.iad> |
| In reply to | #691484 |
On 6/21/2018 6:29 PM, Mr On!on wrote:
> <Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> At the start, there was "no entropy" ("no time, no space"), just "eXergy"
>> ( a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ).
>>
>> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
>> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
>> but none of the eXergy. Gravity is residual eXergy.
>>
>
> Did Einstein know this? Anyway, I'm intrigued, please tell me more.
>
NO! NO! NO! GOD NO! Don't ask him for MORE! He'll gladly comply.
It won't end well.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-21 21:23 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: It's my fault. |
| Message-ID | <XbYWC.358674$br4.140275@fx34.iad> |
| In reply to | #691483 |
On 6/21/2018 6:20 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> You (Ben) replied ( to me ):
>>> Some losers blame "the left" ("the refs"),
>>> others blame "the right" ("capitalist pigs").
>>> Referees are the LeastBad "option"; perfection is out of reach.
>>
>> Talk and theft is all you understand.
>
> Right, it's my fault, loser.
>
> We're programmed to take the LeastBad "option", naturally.
>
> At the start, there was "no entropy" ("no time, no space"), just "eXergy"
> ( a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ).
>
> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
> but none of the eXergy. Gravity is residual eXergy.
>
Rolf, give it up. You goofy libs can't do science. You may think that if
only your bullshit is clever enough you can convince people it is
science, but that is your false hope. You are still an idiot.
Stick to using your imagination to writing science fiction like
starfaker. It will be more productive and valuable in the end.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-19 16:54 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Marx lied. |
| Message-ID | <94eWC.155618$Mj2.17874@fx22.iad> |
| In reply to | #691213 |
On 6/19/2018 12:24 PM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder
Emeritus 🐶笛 wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:11:50 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; "Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>" determined that the following was of
> great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
> <fosoa6Fkth5U2@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 6/19/18 9:04 AM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood 🐶 Whistle Holder
>> Emeritus 🐶笛 wrote:
>>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 08:59:05 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; "Snit
>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>" determined that the following was of
>>> great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
>>> <fosniaFkpalU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> On 6/19/18 8:53 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>> You ("Your Friendly"[sic]) wrote:
>>>>>> marx [sic] was a sociologist who predicted the ways that economies
>>>>>> evolve
>>>>> Karl Marx's predictions were wrong, obviously. The " I know better than
>>>>> the market; every detail, always " concept is what's wrong with
>>>>> feminists and communists. Four of Karl's kids died in childhood; two
>>>>> committed suicide; Frederick Demuth ( a child of rape ? ) was
>>>>> abandoned, left in abject povery. Marx lied. If this is what you want,
>>>>> follow him. Also, if you _need_ to believe that everything is coming to
>>>>> an end; Marxist Jim Jones has some Kool Aid for you, kook.
>>>> Given how it is so rare to see ANYONE back Marx it is hard to understand
>>>> why people on the right focus on him so much for ANY reason other than
>>>> to try to pull the light off of their own unsupportable views.
>>> because marx is so "wrong" they have to ironically whinge about him and
>>> try feebly to politicise his scientific and reasoned sociological and
>>> economic principles from over 100 years ago, it seems.
>>
>> What they are trying to do is tie anyone on the left to him, which makes
>> no sense at all.
>
> "clearly", because he and others suffered under a fasciocommunist regime he must have really liked it.
>
> conservatives are fucking dullards these days.
>
Which is why anyone who isn't among the intelligent liberal elite needs
to have government to force them to do what is "best" for them. Right?
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| From | Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-19 16:04 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Marx lied. |
| Message-ID | <4_udnTdZ9tp68rTGnZ2dnUU7-W3NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #691254 |
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:54:27 -0400, LO AND BEHOLD; "benj
<benj@nobody.net>" determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<94eWC.155618$Mj2.17874@fx22.iad>:
>On 6/19/2018 12:24 PM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood 🐶 Whistle Holder
>Emeritus 🐶笛 wrote:
>>On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:11:50 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; "Snit
>><usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>" determined that the following was of
>>great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
>><fosoa6Fkth5U2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>On 6/19/18 9:04 AM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood 🐶 Whistle Holder
>>>Emeritus 🐶笛 wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 08:59:05 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; "Snit
>>>><usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>" determined that the following was of
>>>>great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
>>>><fosniaFkpalU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>On 6/19/18 8:53 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>>>You ("Your Friendly"[sic]) wrote:
>>>>>>>marx [sic] was a sociologist who predicted the ways that economies
>>>>>>>evolve
>>>>>>Karl Marx's predictions were wrong, obviously. The " I know better than
>>>>>>the market; every detail, always " concept is what's wrong with
>>>>>>feminists and communists. Four of Karl's kids died in childhood; two
>>>>>>committed suicide; Frederick Demuth ( a child of rape ? ) was
>>>>>>abandoned, left in abject povery. Marx lied. If this is what you want,
>>>>>>follow him. Also, if you _need_ to believe that everything is coming to
>>>>>>an end; Marxist Jim Jones has some Kool Aid for you, kook.
>>>>>Given how it is so rare to see ANYONE back Marx it is hard to understand
>>>>>why people on the right focus on him so much for ANY reason other than
>>>>>to try to pull the light off of their own unsupportable views.
>>>>because marx is so "wrong" they have to ironically whinge about him and
>>>>try feebly to politicise his scientific and reasoned sociological and
>>>>economic principles from over 100 years ago, it seems.
>>>What they are trying to do is tie anyone on the left to him, which makes
>>>no sense at all.
>>"clearly", because he and others suffered under a fasciocommunist regime
>>he must have really liked it. conservatives are fucking dullards these
>>days.
>Which is why anyone who isn't among the intelligent liberal elite needs
>to have government to force them to do what is "best" for them. Right?
nobody is forcing you to believe reality instead of FOX news.
--
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB6B8jGSdLA
"Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle, this
seems to be the new norm in the world. It's spreading like a cancer,
and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil. We need to put an
end to this muzzie plague, or life on Earth is going to become pure hell
everywhere. We need to get these people out of every civilized
country, and there's only one way to do it. IOW, we have to become
like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Checkmate (of alt.checkmate)
"Pussy Willow has just proven that Trump's crackdown on previously
unenforced immigration policies is working. We'll deal with the domestic
terrorists as needed, but we don't need to be letting the muzzie
terrorists get a foothold in our country too. One need only look at what
they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing by
keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1 pussy willow fan)
-
"You just made puppy whistle's sig line longer." - Janithor
-
"If I have a complaint about the (Southern Poverty) Law Center's description (of the alt-right movement), it is the phrase "heavy use of social media," which implies the alt-right is a real-world movement which uses a lot of social media. This is backwards: it is an online movement which occasionally appears in the real world. Where it gets punched." - Jason Rhode
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"I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com>
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-06-19 18:31 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Marx lied. |
| Message-ID | <IufWC.313149$LR2.224842@fx41.iad> |
| In reply to | #691260 |
On 6/19/2018 5:04 PM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder
Emeritus 🐶笛 wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:54:27 -0400, LO AND BEHOLD; "benj
> <benj@nobody.net>" determined that the following was of great
> importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
> <94eWC.155618$Mj2.17874@fx22.iad>:
>
>> On 6/19/2018 12:24 PM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood 🐶 Whistle Holder
>> Emeritus 🐶笛 wrote:
>>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:11:50 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; "Snit
>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>" determined that the following was of
>>> great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
>>> <fosoa6Fkth5U2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> On 6/19/18 9:04 AM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood 🐶 Whistle Holder
>>>> Emeritus 🐶笛 wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 08:59:05 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; "Snit
>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>" determined that the following was of
>>>>> great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
>>>>> <fosniaFkpalU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>> On 6/19/18 8:53 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>>>> You ("Your Friendly"[sic]) wrote:
>>>>>>>> marx [sic] was a sociologist who predicted the ways that economies
>>>>>>>> evolve
>>>>>>> Karl Marx's predictions were wrong, obviously. The " I know better than
>>>>>>> the market; every detail, always " concept is what's wrong with
>>>>>>> feminists and communists. Four of Karl's kids died in childhood; two
>>>>>>> committed suicide; Frederick Demuth ( a child of rape ? ) was
>>>>>>> abandoned, left in abject povery. Marx lied. If this is what you want,
>>>>>>> follow him. Also, if you _need_ to believe that everything is coming to
>>>>>>> an end; Marxist Jim Jones has some Kool Aid for you, kook.
>>>>>> Given how it is so rare to see ANYONE back Marx it is hard to understand
>>>>>> why people on the right focus on him so much for ANY reason other than
>>>>>> to try to pull the light off of their own unsupportable views.
>>>>> because marx is so "wrong" they have to ironically whinge about him and
>>>>> try feebly to politicise his scientific and reasoned sociological and
>>>>> economic principles from over 100 years ago, it seems.
>>>> What they are trying to do is tie anyone on the left to him, which makes
>>>> no sense at all.
>>> "clearly", because he and others suffered under a fasciocommunist regime
>>> he must have really liked it. conservatives are fucking dullards these
>>> days.
>> Which is why anyone who isn't among the intelligent liberal elite needs
>> to have government to force them to do what is "best" for them. Right?
>
> nobody is forcing you to believe reality instead of FOX news.
>
Sorry, Don't watch FOX. Who forces all you libs to worship the lies on CNN?
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