Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > sci.physics > #691217 > unrolled thread

As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients

Started bysam.wormley@gmail.com
First post2018-06-19 09:42 -0700
Last post2018-06-22 14:17 -0700
Articles 14 — 8 participants

Back to article view | Back to sci.physics

Contents

  As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2018-06-19 09:42 -0700
    Re: As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-19 11:40 -0700
    Re: As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-19 15:48 -0500
      Re: As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 18:15 -0400
    Re: As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 17:02 -0400
      Re: As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-20 07:26 +1000
        Re: As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 18:27 -0400
          Re: As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-20 10:10 +1000
          Re: As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-21 09:08 -0500
      Re: As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-06-20 06:37 +0200
    Re: As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 08:07 -0700
    Re: As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:56 -0700
      Re: As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-22 17:03 -0400
        Re: As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 14:17 -0700

#691217 — As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients

Fromsam.wormley@gmail.com
Date2018-06-19 09:42 -0700
SubjectAs Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients
Message-ID<fee1ecf8-061b-4747-a8ca-4b13d3448daf@googlegroups.com>
As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/19/616098095/as-carbon-dioxide-levels-rise-major-crops-are-losing-nutrients

Sad, but true.

[toc] | [next] | [standalone]

#691230

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-06-19 11:40 -0700
Message-ID<pgbimi$ibo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#691217
<sam.wormley@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:fee1ecf8-061b-4747-a8ca-4b13d3448daf@googlegroups.com...
> As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients
>
> https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/19/616098095/as-carbon-dioxide-levels-rise-major-crops-are-losing-nutrients
>
> Sad, but true.
>
No!. Obesity-Wormley, you fat old Schmuck,
that is a good thing. You can pig out more
and lose weight. Wonderful and true, n'est pas.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691251

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-06-19 15:48 -0500
Message-ID<pgbq7g$i72$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#691217
On 6/19/2018 11:42 AM, sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
> As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients
> 
> https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/19/616098095/as-carbon-dioxide-levels-rise-major-crops-are-losing-nutrients
> 
> Sad, but true.
> 

title is a generalization from a poorly controlled test.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691282

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-19 18:15 -0400
Message-ID<ZffWC.95786$Kp4.28395@fx43.iad>
In reply to#691251
On 6/19/2018 4:48 PM, Sergio wrote:
> On 6/19/2018 11:42 AM, sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>> As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients
>>
>> https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/19/616098095/as-carbon-dioxide-levels-rise-major-crops-are-losing-nutrients
>>
>> Sad, but true.
>>
> 
> title is a generalization from a poorly controlled test.
> 
Test was not even over when science deniers were already pretending 
results are "settled science".

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691257

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-19 17:02 -0400
Message-ID<ZbeWC.230246$o43.202701@fx33.iad>
In reply to#691217
On 6/19/2018 12:42 PM, sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
> As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients
> 
> https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/19/616098095/as-carbon-dioxide-levels-rise-major-crops-are-losing-nutrients
> 
> Sad, but true.
> 
Not sad and a not true.

I always, go to some NPR "journalist" to get the best science today, 
don't you Sammy?

Gosh Wonder why some greenhouse operators have tanks o CO2 they release 
onto the crops? Maybe it's because these tests found coffee plants grow 
bigger with more CO2.

But just like the lib brain, "bigger doens not always mean better"!

Of course testing is underway and there are no actual scientific 
conclusions, but that doesn't stop liberal journalist fantasies (or YOU! 
right sam?) A Liberal can simple make up a result and it becomes 
"settleed Science". Easy as that.

My personal view is that increased CO2 levels is the cause of Liberal 
insanity and shrinking brains.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691273

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-06-20 07:26 +1000
Message-ID<fotaooFod4qU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#691257
On 20/06/2018 7:02 AM, benj wrote:
> On 6/19/2018 12:42 PM, sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>> As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients
>>
>> https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/19/616098095/as-carbon-dioxide-levels-rise-major-crops-are-losing-nutrients 
>>
>>
>> Sad, but true.
>>
> Not sad and a not true.
> 
> I always, go to some NPR "journalist" to get the best science today, 
> don't you Sammy?
> 
> Gosh Wonder why some greenhouse operators have tanks o CO2 they release 
> onto the crops? Maybe it's because these tests found coffee plants grow 
> bigger with more CO2.
> 
> But just like the lib brain, "bigger doens not always mean better"!
> 
> Of course testing is underway and there are no actual scientific 
> conclusions, but that doesn't stop liberal journalist fantasies (or YOU! 
> right sam?) A Liberal can simple make up a result and it becomes 
> "settleed Science". Easy as that.
> 
> My personal view is that increased CO2 levels is the cause of Liberal 
> insanity and shrinking brains.

**Because you have no idea about science, your opinions (in areas 
related to science) are as useful as Trump's. IOW: Worthless.

You're just Sergio's stupid lap-dog.

-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691288

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-19 18:27 -0400
Message-ID<jrfWC.313147$LR2.62327@fx41.iad>
In reply to#691273
On 6/19/2018 5:26 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 20/06/2018 7:02 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 6/19/2018 12:42 PM, sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>>> As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients
>>>
>>> https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/19/616098095/as-carbon-dioxide-levels-rise-major-crops-are-losing-nutrients 
>>>
>>>
>>> Sad, but true.
>>>
>> Not sad and a not true.
>>
>> I always, go to some NPR "journalist" to get the best science today, 
>> don't you Sammy?
>>
>> Gosh Wonder why some greenhouse operators have tanks o CO2 they 
>> release onto the crops? Maybe it's because these tests found coffee 
>> plants grow bigger with more CO2.
>>
>> But just like the lib brain, "bigger doens not always mean better"!
>>
>> Of course testing is underway and there are no actual scientific 
>> conclusions, but that doesn't stop liberal journalist fantasies (or 
>> YOU! right sam?) A Liberal can simple make up a result and it becomes 
>> "settleed Science". Easy as that.
>>
>> My personal view is that increased CO2 levels is the cause of Liberal 
>> insanity and shrinking brains.
> 
> **Because you have no idea about science, your opinions (in areas 
> related to science) are as useful as Trump's. IOW: Worthless.

Well I never expected confirmation of my theory of CO2 shrinking liberal 
brains so quickly!  Oh wait. This is an OZ brain! It's already preshrunk!

> You're just Sergio's stupid lap-dog.

Can't handle people with an actual science education and degrees can 
you? Here in America you can't get an "advanced" degree in sheep-shearing.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691304

FromTrevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
Date2018-06-20 10:10 +1000
Message-ID<fotkbuFq4mqU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#691288
On 20/06/2018 8:27 AM, benj wrote:
> On 6/19/2018 5:26 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 20/06/2018 7:02 AM, benj wrote:
>>> On 6/19/2018 12:42 PM, sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients
>>>>
>>>> https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/19/616098095/as-carbon-dioxide-levels-rise-major-crops-are-losing-nutrients 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sad, but true.
>>>>
>>> Not sad and a not true.
>>>
>>> I always, go to some NPR "journalist" to get the best science today, 
>>> don't you Sammy?
>>>
>>> Gosh Wonder why some greenhouse operators have tanks o CO2 they 
>>> release onto the crops? Maybe it's because these tests found coffee 
>>> plants grow bigger with more CO2.
>>>
>>> But just like the lib brain, "bigger doens not always mean better"!
>>>
>>> Of course testing is underway and there are no actual scientific 
>>> conclusions, but that doesn't stop liberal journalist fantasies (or 
>>> YOU! right sam?) A Liberal can simple make up a result and it becomes 
>>> "settleed Science". Easy as that.
>>>
>>> My personal view is that increased CO2 levels is the cause of Liberal 
>>> insanity and shrinking brains.
>>
>> **Because you have no idea about science, your opinions (in areas 
>> related to science) are as useful as Trump's. IOW: Worthless.
> 
> Well I never expected confirmation of my theory of CO2 shrinking liberal 
> brains so quickly!  Oh wait. This is an OZ brain! It's already preshrunk!

**Like I care what a lap-dog thinks. LOL!

> 
>> You're just Sergio's stupid lap-dog.
> 
> Can't handle people with an actual science education and degrees can 
> you?

**On the contrary, I enjoy discussing science with knowledgeable 
people. You don't fit that description. You're just Sergio's lap-dog.



-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691442

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-06-21 09:08 -0500
Message-ID<pggbgl$1uu2$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#691288
On 6/19/2018 5:27 PM, benj wrote:
> On 6/19/2018 5:26 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 20/06/2018 7:02 AM, benj wrote:
>>> On 6/19/2018 12:42 PM, sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients
>>>>
>>>> https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/19/616098095/as-carbon-dioxide-levels-rise-major-crops-are-losing-nutrients
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sad, but true.
>>>>
>>> Not sad and a not true.
>>>
>>> I always, go to some NPR "journalist" to get the best science today,
>>> don't you Sammy?
>>>
>>> Gosh Wonder why some greenhouse operators have tanks o CO2 they
>>> release onto the crops? Maybe it's because these tests found coffee
>>> plants grow bigger with more CO2.
>>>
>>> But just like the lib brain, "bigger doens not always mean better"!
>>>
>>> Of course testing is underway and there are no actual scientific
>>> conclusions, but that doesn't stop liberal journalist fantasies (or
>>> YOU! right sam?) A Liberal can simple make up a result and it becomes
>>> "settleed Science". Easy as that.
>>>
>>> My personal view is that increased CO2 levels is the cause of Liberal
>>> insanity and shrinking brains.
>>
>> **Because you have no idea about science, your opinions (in areas
>> related to science) are as useful as Trump's. IOW: Worthless.
> 
> Well I never expected confirmation of my theory of CO2 shrinking liberal
> brains so quickly!  Oh wait. This is an OZ brain! It's already preshrunk!
> 
>> You're just Sergio's stupid lap-dog.
> 
> Can't handle people with an actual science education and degrees can
> you? Here in America you can't get an "advanced" degree in sheep-shearing.
> 
> 

poor Trevor, drank the cool aid, and then held his breath too long.

(he found out HE WAS EMITTING CO2 with each Breath !! )

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691338

FromLibor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com>
Date2018-06-20 06:37 +0200
Message-ID<pgcln6$6ul$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#691257
benj <benj@nobody.net> Wrote in message:
>
> 
> Gosh Wonder why some greenhouse operators have tanks o CO2 they release 
> onto the crops? Maybe it's because these tests found coffee plants grow 
> bigger with more CO2.

Some producers are interested in amount more than in quality.

For many vegetables or fruits,
faster growth  means worse quality.
It comes with its price to pay.
They need their time. 

More CO2 may speed up photosynthesis of glucose, but does not
 speed up synthesis of various compounds affecting nutrition and
 sensoric quality.


-- 
Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

"Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
Miloš Forman


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691444

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-21 08:07 -0700
Message-ID<7985396f-c918-4aac-87b8-480819e364cc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691217
On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 9:42:17 AM UTC-7, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients
> 
> https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/19/616098095/as-carbon-dioxide-levels-rise-major-crops-are-losing-nutrients
> 
> Sad, but true.

Yeah, that's why there were no plants during the Jurassic.  Just dinosaurs.  Very, very hungry dinosaurs.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691560

From"nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-22 10:56 -0700
Message-ID<19244e7b-1261-4516-9f33-5f778d8f11b3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691217
On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 9:42:17 AM UTC-7, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients
> 
> https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/19/616098095/as-carbon-dioxide-levels-rise-major-crops-are-losing-nutrients
> 
> Sad, but true.

  Sam, you're back!

  Aaand, you're still full of shit:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/thirty-years-on-how-well-do-global-warming-predictions-stand-up-1529623442

  TL;DR: poor professor Hansen is wrongity wrong wrong WRONG.


  Mark L. Fergerson

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691579

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-22 17:03 -0400
Message-ID<zudXC.103085$Kp4.51420@fx43.iad>
In reply to#691560
On 6/22/2018 1:56 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 9:42:17 AM UTC-7, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
>> As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients
>>
>> https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/19/616098095/as-carbon-dioxide-levels-rise-major-crops-are-losing-nutrients
>>
>> Sad, but true.
> 
>    Sam, you're back!
> 
>    Aaand, you're still full of shit:
> 
> https://www.wsj.com/articles/thirty-years-on-how-well-do-global-warming-predictions-stand-up-1529623442
> 
>    TL;DR: poor professor Hansen is wrongity wrong wrong WRONG.

>    Mark L. Fergerson

And the interesting thing, is that back in the day when Dr. Hansen was 
scaring everyone with his models and dire predictions he called on 
Congress to kill deniers for treason! I wonder if he's still up for the 
same punishment for people spreading fear and panic with false scare 
predictions?

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#691586

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-22 14:17 -0700
Message-ID<4f8402d5-2c5a-49bb-bd41-31e8fe991918@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691579
On Friday, June 22, 2018 at 2:03:30 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> On 6/22/2018 1:56 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 9:42:17 AM UTC-7, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> As Carbon Dioxide Levels Rise, Major Crops Are Losing Nutrients
> >>
> >> https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/06/19/616098095/as-carbon-dioxide-levels-rise-major-crops-are-losing-nutrients
> >>
> >> Sad, but true.
> > 
> >    Sam, you're back!
> > 
> >    Aaand, you're still full of shit:
> > 
> > https://www.wsj.com/articles/thirty-years-on-how-well-do-global-warming-predictions-stand-up-1529623442
> > 
> >    TL;DR: poor professor Hansen is wrongity wrong wrong WRONG.
> 
> >    Mark L. Fergerson
> 
> And the interesting thing, is that back in the day when Dr. Hansen was 
> scaring everyone with his models and dire predictions he called on 
> Congress to kill deniers for treason! I wonder if he's still up for the 
> same punishment for people spreading fear and panic with false scare 
> predictions?


I agree.  Or, we should at least get to taze him and put it on YouTube to be viewed by the people he denigrated.

[toc] | [prev] | [standalone]

Back to top | Article view | sci.physics

csiph-web