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Particle physics 2

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  Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-07 10:13 -0700
    Particle physics 2 john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 10:17 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-08 15:02 -0500
    Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 17:39 +0000
      Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-08 14:58 -0500
        Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 20:43 +0000
          Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-08 19:13 -0400
            Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-08 18:48 -0500
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-07 12:25 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:38 +0000
      Re: Particle physics 2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-07 22:44 +0200
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-07 12:26 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-07 12:27 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-07 23:06 +0200
        Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 21:47 +0000
          Re: Particle physics 2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-08 04:16 +0200
    Re: Particle physics 2 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-07 22:38 +0200
      Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-08 15:07 -0500
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-08 09:57 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:48 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-08 10:05 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:48 +0000
        Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-08 14:53 -0500
        Re: Particle physics 2 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 12:54 -0700
        Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-08 18:57 -0400
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-08 12:26 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 20:43 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-08 12:27 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 20:43 +0000
        Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-08 19:10 -0400
          Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-09 19:03 -0500
            Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 22:50 -0400
              Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-10 21:11 -0500
                Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 11:58 -0400
          Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 08:09 -0700
            Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-12 18:05 -0400
              Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 06:48 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 09:30 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 16:43 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 09:31 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 09:36 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 16:46 +0000
        Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-11 14:07 -0500
          Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 19:27 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 09:39 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 16:56 +0000
        Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-11 14:06 -0500
          Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 17:24 -0400
          Re: Particle physics 2 poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 22:46 -0700
            Re: Particle physics 2 john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 05:31 -0700
              Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-12 09:09 -0500
                Re: Particle physics 2 john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 08:31 -0700
                Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-12 17:34 -0400
                Re: Particle physics 2 poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 17:00 -0700
              Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-12 17:15 -0400
                Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 22:06 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 09:43 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 12:27 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 19:53 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 12:32 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 19:59 +0000
      Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 17:29 -0400
      Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 08:20 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 12:48 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 20:45 +0000
      Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 17:34 -0400
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 12:52 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 08:25 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 12:53 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 08:42 -0700
        Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-12 18:12 -0400
          Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 00:50 +0000
            Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-12 22:29 -0400
              Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 12:21 +0000
                Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-13 11:36 -0400
                  Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-13 13:03 -0500
                    Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-13 14:38 -0400
          Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 06:50 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 14:33 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 22:30 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 14:36 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 22:31 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 14:39 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 14:52 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 15:05 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 15:07 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 15:55 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-12 00:02 +0000
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 12:27 +0000
        Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-12 09:10 -0500
          Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 14:36 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 17:21 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-12 01:28 +0000
      Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 09:02 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 17:51 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 12:27 +0000
        Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-12 09:16 -0500
          Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 14:36 +0000
            Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-12 09:54 -0500
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 17:55 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-12 01:33 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 18:12 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 18:24 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 18:35 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-12 01:49 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 18:36 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-12 01:54 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 09:33 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 10:08 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 09:41 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 17:53 +0000
      Re: Particle physics 2 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-12 17:55 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 10:04 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 10:18 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-12 17:57 +0000
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 18:01 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 10:06 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-12 17:59 +0000
        Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 06:20 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 10:17 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 10:21 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-12 18:05 +0000
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 18:35 +0000
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 10:24 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 13:59 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 22:06 +0000
      Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 06:22 -0700
        Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-13 15:48 -0500
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 14:02 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 14:04 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 14:09 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 22:06 +0000
      Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 06:37 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 14:13 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 22:06 +0000
      Re: Particle physics 2 Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-13 01:26 -0400
        Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 08:04 -0500
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 15:39 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 00:50 +0000
        Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-12 22:33 -0400
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 15:45 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 00:50 +0000
        Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-13 15:46 -0500
      Re: Particle physics 2 Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-13 01:31 -0400
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 15:50 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 00:50 +0000
        Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-12 22:36 -0400
          Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 07:28 -0700
            Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-13 11:13 -0400
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 18:14 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 22:15 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-13 01:34 -0400
        Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 08:05 -0500
      Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 07:25 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 11:14 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 07:53 -0700
        Re: Particle physics 2 earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2018-06-14 11:38 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 11:17 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 11:20 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 18:40 +0000
        Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-13 15:50 -0500
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 11:24 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-13 14:43 -0400
        Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-13 15:52 -0500
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 11:25 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 07:57 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 12:31 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-13 20:30 +0000
      Re: Particle physics 2 Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-13 16:42 -0400
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 13:55 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-14 08:06 -0700
        Re: Particle physics 2 Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-14 12:42 -0400
          Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-14 11:52 -0500
            Re: Particle physics 2 Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-14 13:04 -0400
              Re: Particle physics 2 Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-06-14 13:08 -0400
                Re: Particle physics 2 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-14 12:40 -0500
                  Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-14 16:01 -0400
                Re: Particle physics 2 Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 05:39 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 13:58 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 14:01 -0700
      Re: Particle physics 2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-13 20:41 -0400
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-14 11:15 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 furthermore7990662@gmail.com - 2018-06-14 11:57 -0700
    Re: Particle physics 2 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-06-14 13:04 -0700

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#690016

Fromfurthermore7990662@gmail.com
Date2018-06-11 09:36 -0700
Message-ID<4716c126-8f0e-4eaf-9986-7ac3f3011bdf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#689319
Hey Boinker, you can put anything at all into a Mass Spectrometer 
including your tongue! Of course whether or not it will measure anything 
useful is undetermined. 

_____________________________________________________________


Yes, if you use a time-space transformation.

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#690023

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-11 16:46 +0000
Message-ID<pfm90s$s5n$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#690016
<furthermore7990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Boinker, you can put anything at all into a Mass Spectrometer 
> including your tongue! Of course whether or not it will measure anything 
> useful is undetermined. 
> 
> _____________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> Yes, if you use a time-space transformation.
> 

No. There is no spacetime transform needed to run a mass spec for, say, a
proton or muon. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#690046

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-06-11 14:07 -0500
Message-ID<pfmh9l$1b3d$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#690023
On 6/11/2018 11:46 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <furthermore7990662@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Boinker, you can put anything at all into a Mass Spectrometer 
>> including your tongue! Of course whether or not it will measure anything 
>> useful is undetermined. 
>>
>> _____________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> Yes, if you use a time-space transformation.
>>
> 
> No. There is no spacetime transform needed to run a mass spec for, say, a
> proton or muon. 
> 

muons only have 2.2 ms lifetime, so it better be fast.

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#690054

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-11 19:27 +0000
Message-ID<pfmiep$1dl4$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#690046
Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2018 11:46 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <furthermore7990662@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Boinker, you can put anything at all into a Mass Spectrometer 
>>> including your tongue! Of course whether or not it will measure anything 
>>> useful is undetermined. 
>>> 
>>> _____________________________________________________________
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, if you use a time-space transformation.
>>> 
>> 
>> No. There is no spacetime transform needed to run a mass spec for, say, a
>> proton or muon. 
>> 
> 
> muons only have 2.2 ms lifetime, so it better be fast.
> 

2.2 microseconds for a muon going at c is 660 meters. So for a muon only
going one percent of the speed of light, that’s still 6.6 meters, which is
still much larger than the few tenths of a meter for an average mass spec.
So most of the muons survive the flight. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#690018

Fromfurthermore7990662@gmail.com
Date2018-06-11 09:39 -0700
Message-ID<80b73b53-eeb0-41f0-8c15-0da9554bee5a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#689319
The real question is how much energy. does the electron beam carry. Odd 
seems to think that conservation of. energy does not apply to electrons. 
Needless to say he's wrong again.. 

______________________________________________________________



How does an electrons that has a mass propagate through the steel enclosure of the bubble chamber with producing holes?

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#690025

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-11 16:56 +0000
Message-ID<pfm9k7$t9n$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#690018
<furthermore7990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> The real question is how much energy. does the electron beam carry. Odd 
> seems to think that conservation of. energy does not apply to electrons. 
> Needless to say he's wrong again.. 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> How does an electrons that has a mass propagate through the steel
> enclosure of the bubble chamber with producing holes?
> 
> 

Might want to look up “stopping power” in Wikipedia. Especially for
electrons and protons. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#690045

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-06-11 14:06 -0500
Message-ID<pfmh7c$1b3d$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#690025
On 6/11/2018 11:56 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <furthermore7990662@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The real question is how much energy. does the electron beam carry. Odd 
>> seems to think that conservation of. energy does not apply to electrons. 
>> Needless to say he's wrong again.. 
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> How does an electrons that has a mass propagate through the steel
>> enclosure of the bubble chamber with producing holes?
>>
>>
> 
> Might want to look up “stopping power” in Wikipedia. Especially for
> electrons and protons. 
> 

materials are more hollow at the atomic level.

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#690090

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-11 17:24 -0400
Message-ID<lMBTC.220841$o43.49575@fx33.iad>
In reply to#690045
On 6/11/2018 3:06 PM, Sergio wrote:
> On 6/11/2018 11:56 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <furthermore7990662@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The real question is how much energy. does the electron beam carry. Odd
>>> seems to think that conservation of. energy does not apply to electrons.
>>> Needless to say he's wrong again..
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How does an electrons that has a mass propagate through the steel
>>> enclosure of the bubble chamber with producing holes?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Might want to look up “stopping power” in Wikipedia. Especially for
>> electrons and protons.
>>
> 
> materials are more hollow at the atomic level.
> 
Comments on the atomic level of Odd's brain restrained....

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#690178

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-06-11 22:46 -0700
Message-ID<6e967f9c-b02d-48df-a9e8-8c63121fdbcc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690045
On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 10:06:25 PM UTC+3, Sergio wrote:
> On 6/11/2018 11:56 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > <furthermore7990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The real question is how much energy. does the electron beam carry. Odd 
> >> seems to think that conservation of. energy does not apply to electrons. 
> >> Needless to say he's wrong again.. 
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> How does an electrons that has a mass propagate through the steel
> >> enclosure of the bubble chamber with producing holes?
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > Might want to look up “stopping power” in Wikipedia. Especially for
> > electrons and protons. 
> > 
> 
> materials are more hollow at the atomic level.
================================
what do you mean by more 
 hollow   ??
if you mean that 
there is a lot of empty space there 
I agree  !
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Y.Porat
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#690191

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-12 05:31 -0700
Message-ID<56a10bcd-773d-4c9e-ae3a-c9951c8c131f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690178
Dumf 
“there is a lot of empty space there 
I agree  ! ”
There are no cannon balls in my B.B. box- doesn’t mean it’s empty OR less dense.
Smaller-scale materials have just as much energy.
No such thing as nothing, children.

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#690199

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-06-12 09:09 -0500
Message-ID<pfok7d$pak$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#690191
On 6/12/2018 7:31 AM, john wrote:
> Dumf 
> “there is a lot of empty space there 
> I agree  ! ”
> There are no cannon balls in my B.B. box- doesn’t mean it’s empty OR less dense.
> Smaller-scale materials have just as much energy.
> No such thing as nothing, children.
> 

Even nothing is something!

If no thing is there, it's nothing, and that is something.

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#690218

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-12 08:31 -0700
Message-ID<61c04452-d9f2-4e68-a3e1-956039c5d7ba@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690199
Sergio
“

If no thing is there, it's nothing, and that is something. ”
Haha.
If nothing is there, the pressure from the rest of the Universe slapping it shut would be something to see!
But it’s impossible

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#690313

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-12 17:34 -0400
Message-ID<T%WTC.154807$wG5.7110@fx02.iad>
In reply to#690199
On 6/12/2018 10:09 AM, Sergio wrote:
> On 6/12/2018 7:31 AM, john wrote:
>> Dumf
>> “there is a lot of empty space there
>> I agree  ! ”
>> There are no cannon balls in my B.B. box- doesn’t mean it’s empty OR less dense.
>> Smaller-scale materials have just as much energy.
>> No such thing as nothing, children.
>>
> 
> Even nothing is something!
> 
> If no thing is there, it's nothing, and that is something.
> 
Only if thoughts are things.

You trying to mess with Odd's brain again?

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#690350

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-06-12 17:00 -0700
Message-ID<fb887970-b5f8-471b-8c15-d29a7b6441dd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#690199
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 5:09:54 PM UTC+3, Sergio wrote:
> On 6/12/2018 7:31 AM, john wrote:
> > Dumf 
> > “there is a lot of empty space there 
> > I agree  ! ”
> > There are no cannon balls in my B.B. box- doesn’t mean it’s empty OR less dense.
> > Smaller-scale materials have just as much energy.
> > No such thing as nothing, children.
> > 
> 
> Even nothing is something!
> 
> If no thing is there, it's nothing, and that is something.

============================
had there not been locations of ** absolute empty space**
- NO MOTION Whatsoever could be done !!!
======
copyright 
Y.Porat
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#690303

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-12 17:15 -0400
Message-ID<PJWTC.270293$Hv4.32216@fx39.iad>
In reply to#690191
On 6/12/2018 8:31 AM, john wrote:
> Dumf
> “there is a lot of empty space there
> I agree  ! ”
> There are no cannon balls in my B.B. box- doesn’t mean it’s empty OR less dense.
> Smaller-scale materials have just as much energy.
> No such thing as nothing, children.
> 
John.
In Odd's world there are "probability waves in nothing at all" and in 
his world that is what our reality is made of. He read it in a textbook 
somewhere. And in his world matter is made of particles with no 
dimensions and zero volume but still have mass and energy.If you'd like 
to join him in his world, all it takes is some decent drugs and for you 
to BELIEVE!!

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#690327

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-12 22:06 +0000
Message-ID<pfpg5d$d8i$6@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#690303
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 6/12/2018 8:31 AM, john wrote:
>> Dumf
>> “there is a lot of empty space there
>> I agree  ! ”
>> There are no cannon balls in my B.B. box- doesn’t mean it’s empty OR less dense.
>> Smaller-scale materials have just as much energy.
>> No such thing as nothing, children.
>> 
> John.
> In Odd's world there are "probability waves in nothing at all" 

Quoted from what, Ben? Not from me. 

> and in 
> his world that is what our reality is made of. He read it in a textbook 
> somewhere. And in his world matter is made of particles with no 
> dimensions and zero volume but still have mass and energy.

Yes. 

> If you'd like 
> to join him in his world, all it takes is some decent drugs and for you 
> to BELIEVE!!
> 

Nah. You should look at the experimental support for those theories. What
you should never do is prefilter theories based on whether they fit with
your preconceptions of the world. Don’t worry, there have been scientists
in the past that made the same mistake, and their error eventually was well
documented. 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#690020

Fromfurthermore7990662@gmail.com
Date2018-06-11 09:43 -0700
Message-ID<a6dae4ee-f48f-4c55-8793-bc2db45e90c6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#689319

Tell me about it!. I had a grand piano since I was a teen at my mom's 
place. When I inherited the place and went to sell it, I tried to get 
rid of the piano,. but no takers. Eventually I had to pay $200 for the 
movers to take it and dispose of it properly!.  Even worse my dentist has 
a super high end German Carved grand piano that they've been trying to 
GIVE away for years. No takers.. (Not even me! I obey the rule now!) 
I went and bought a Yamaha portable electronic keyboard.. MUCH more 
sensible!  Sometimes technology IS better! :-).

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Knock out!

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#690053

Fromfurthermore7990662@gmail.com
Date2018-06-11 12:27 -0700
Message-ID<4a121e93-372c-48e2-bb0a-51bb41384508@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#689319
No. There is no spacetime transform needed to run a mass spec for, say,, a 
proton or muon.,

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This post is about particle physics not mass spectrometry. Try another post.

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#690066

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-11 19:53 +0000
Message-ID<pfmjvk$1grk$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#690053
<furthermore7990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> No. There is no spacetime transform needed to run a mass spec for, say,, a 
> proton or muon.,
> 
> _______________________________________________________
> 
> 
> This post is about particle physics not mass spectrometry. Try another post.
> 

If you will look, a lot of particle detectors are called spectrometers.
Google “dual arm spectrometer” and then read why they are called that. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#690056

Fromfurthermore7990662@gmail.com
Date2018-06-11 12:32 -0700
Message-ID<4018960e-2cb3-45da-b95a-5aac0b343529@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#689319
2.2 microseconds for. a muon going at c is 660 meters. So for a muon only 
going one percent of. the speed of light, that’s still 6.6 meters, which is 
still much larger than. the few tenths of a meter for an average mass spec. 
So most of the muons survive the flight..

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Does not explain how muons got into the bubble chamber.

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