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| Started by | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-06-01 16:20 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-06-02 16:34 +0000 |
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3//45 fire CO2- a slow toxic poison Re: 1/2 of all life disappeared-- CO2 is probably the toxic poison doing it Re: 2//45-Census on Life since human civilization started // animal CO2 is faux 1S, faux 2S, fire-CO2 involves faux 3S orbital Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 16:20 -0700
SCIENCE 25May2018 bive the census report on Earth's life-- Plants weigh the most, but humans, livestock add up Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 19:34 -0700
Reinterpreting this report as fire CO2 suffocating coral Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 23:14 -0700
Re: Reinterpreting this report as fire CO2 suffocating coral Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 09:23 -0700
Re: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-02 16:34 +0000
| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-01 16:20 -0700 |
| Subject | 3//45 fire CO2- a slow toxic poison Re: 1/2 of all life disappeared-- CO2 is probably the toxic poison doing it Re: 2//45-Census on Life since human civilization started // animal CO2 is faux 1S, faux 2S, fire-CO2 involves faux 3S orbital |
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3//45 fire CO2- a slow toxic poison Re: 1/2 of all life disappeared-- CO2 is probably the toxic poison doing it Re: 2//45-Census on Life since human civilization started // animal CO2 is faux 1S, faux 2S, fire-CO2 involves faux 3S orbital Newsgroups: sci.physics Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 21:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 45-Census on Life since human civilization started // animal CO2 is faux 1S, faux 2S, fire-CO2 involves faux 3S orbital From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com> Injection-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2018 04:38:13 +0000 45-Census on Life since human civilization started // animal CO2 is faux 1S, faux 2S, fire-CO2 involves faux 3S orbital Alright, I am hoping the laser guided IR thermometer reading this morning-- 33.9 C in highway polluted grass. Now, I backed off the highway to a plot of grass distant away from the highway and found its temperature to be 32.2 C. Where with its 1.7 degree C higher in auto exhaust grass on the highway versus grass away from the highway is a measure of suffocation of grass by fire CO2-- a lack of photosynthesis activity in fire-CO2 grass. I am hoping it is a proof that plants cannot utilize fire-CO2, only utilize animal CO2. And I wish researchers will quickly establish there is 3 different isomers of CO2. Because, if true, we need to save as many wild animals as possible so as to get plants their breathable CO2. Now recently in two magazines is a report by Dr. Bar-On of the Weizmann Institute of a Census of Life on Earth, by The Economist, 26May2018, page72, and by Ron Milo of Weizmann by NewScientist, 26May2018, page8, titled "Half of Earth's life has vanished" with opening sentence "The amount of living matter on Earth has fallen by half since the beginning of human civilization." Now I am going to comment on this in the days ahead, quoting some more and referencing these two reports. But, what I plea for all scientists to do, is make it a priority study, a priority research to find out for sure, if CO2 has three isomers and that animal-CO2 is the only CO2 plants can use, and all that CO2 from burning fossil fuel is useless to plants and only suffocates plants. For as in the reports of Census of Life, the plants have been halved, cut in half since human civilization began. Have we terribly misled ourselves into thinking that plants will flourish with all the fossil fuel burning making CO2 more abundant, when in fact, if fire CO2 is never utilized by plants, then just the opposite, that plants are being destroyed through fossil fuel burning. AP There is a lot I do not know about Coral, for instance, I thought of them more as a plant than a animal, but they are in the animal kingdom. Some details of why coral seem to be both animal and plant is given by Wikipedia: Newsgroups: sci.physics Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 10:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 2//45-Census on Life since human civilization started // animal CO2 is faux 1S, faux 2S, fire-CO2 involves faux 3S orbital From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com> Injection-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2018 17:03:23 +0000 Quoting Wikipedia: Although some corals are able to catch small fish and plankton using stinging cells on their tentacles, most corals obtain the majority of their energy and nutrients from photosynthetic unicellular dinoflagellates in the genus Symbiodinium that live within their tissues. These are commonly known as zooxanthellae. Such corals require sunlight and grow in clear, shallow water, typically at depths less than 60 metres (200 ft). Corals are major contributors to the physical structure of the coral reefs that develop in tropical and subtropical waters, such as the enormous Great Barrier Reef off the coast of Queensland, Australia. On Friday, June 1, 2018 at 12:17:43 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: Now i wonder if the key mechanism of coral bleaching is because fire CO2 suffocates the algae inside coral. —- source Wikipedia —- Coral bleaching occurs when coral polyps expel algae that live inside their tissues. Normally, coral polyps live in an endosymbiotic relationship with the algae and that relationship is crucial for the coral and hence for the health of the whole reef.[1] Bleached corals might continue to live for some time. But as the algae provide the coral with up to 90% of its energy, after expelling the algae the coral begins to starve.[2] After bleaching, some corals may recover, while some die. Above-average sea water temperatures caused by global warming have been identified as a leading cause for coral bleaching worldwide.[2] Between 2014 and 2016, the longest global bleaching events ever were recorded. Newsgroups: sci.physics Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 10:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 1/2 of all life disappeared-- CO2 is probably the toxic poison doing it Re: 2//45-Census on Life since human civilization started // animal CO2 is faux 1S, faux 2S, fire-CO2 involves faux 3S orbital From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com> Injection-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2018 17:48:05 +0000 1/2 of all life disappeared-- CO2 is probably the toxic poison doing it Re: 2//45-Census on Life since human civilization started // animal CO2 is faux 1S, faux 2S, fire-CO2 involves faux 3S orbital - show quoted text - Now I really do not need to set up a jar experiment with land plants if Coral reef dying is due to fire-CO2, for the experiment is all there plain to see-- bleaching. And about the only experiment that needs to be followed up, is a chemistry-physics mass spectroscopy type of experiment that proves CO2 has three different ISOMERS. And two of those three different isomers are fire CO2 involving a faux 3S orbital which suffocates plants, not enriching plants at all but suffocating plants. If true, then fire-CO2 is much like the analog of CO for animals in that CO, carbon monoxide suffocates animals if too much makes its way into the body of an animal. So, here, we have an emergency SCIENCE EXPERIMENT to be performed, drop all other science experiments and tell us if CO2 is 3 distinct different isomers, for humanity itself may go extinct without knowing the truth of CO2. In that census of Life by the Weizmann Institute shown on The Economist 26May2018 is a bar graph. Plants have 450, humans have .06 while all of wild birds have .002 and all of wild mammals have .007. I could have sworn there seemed to be a lot more birds than that. The aquatic invertebrates have .09 which is the phylum Cnidaria which the corals belong to; and I wonder how much of the .09 is the corals in specific, for all of animals comprise just 2.5 of the total biomass. Plants 450 Bacteria 73 Fungi 12 Archaea 7 Protists 4 Animals 2.5 Viruses .2 The report says there are 7.6 billion humans. The report indicates that 1/2 of all life on Earth has vanished since the start of human civilization. Now some will point to the fact of farming has cleared forests and jungles, but it does not really explain why 1/2 of all life has vanished. What can explain 1/2 vanished is the idea that CO2 comes in a toxic isomer and this toxic fire CO2 suffocates plant life, for plants constitute over 80% of all Earth life and if 1/2 of life has vanished, means, there is a toxic poison killing plants, and not just land clearing by agriculture can account for that. AP On Friday, June 1, 2018 at 1:36:58 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: 1/2 of all life disappeared-- CO2 is probably the toxic poison doing it Re: 2//45-Census on Life since human civilization started // animal CO2 is faux 1S, faux 2S, fire-CO2 involves faux 3S orbital You see the explanation of 1/2 life vanished can not be accounted for by farming and urbanization for the oceans are losing life faster than the terra firma. That leaves a toxic poison culprit to blame— fire CO2. AP Newsgroups: sci.physics Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 14:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: fire CO2- a slow toxic poison Re: 1/2 of all life disappeared-- CO2 is probably the toxic poison doing it Re: 2//45-Census on Life since human civilization started // animal CO2 is faux 1S, faux 2S, fire-CO2 involves faux 3S orbital From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com> Injection-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2018 21:29:16 +0000 fire CO2- a slow toxic poison Re: 1/2 of all life disappeared-- CO2 is probably the toxic poison doing it Re: 2//45-Census on Life since human civilization started // animal CO2 is faux 1S, faux 2S, fire-CO2 involves faux 3S orbital Maximum urgency for this science research experiment-- are there 3 distinct isomers of CO2 an animal CO2 versus two isomers of fire-CO2 where it has a 3S faux orbital. The lives of all animals depends on knowing if CO2 produced from fire suffocates plants and thus the animals are intimately linked to the survival of plants. Extinct wild animals, you end up extincting plants and humans along with it. Has there ever been a alarm clock of urgency like this before in science? Not really, for the worst we experienced so far is a disease epidemic and Global Warming, but the vanishing of over 1/2 of life on Earth started in ancient history when human civilization began 10s or 100s of thousands of years ago. A slow activating toxic poison-- fire CO2. AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-01 19:34 -0700 |
| Subject | SCIENCE 25May2018 bive the census report on Earth's life-- Plants weigh the most, but humans, livestock add up |
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Now SCIENCE magazine 25MAY2018 joins the crowd of others in reporting the gigatons of carbon of all life on Earth from the Weizmann Institute. > > Now recently in two magazines is a report by Dr. Bar-On of the Weizmann Institute of a Census of Life on Earth, by The Economist, 26May2018, page72, and by Ron Milo of Weizmann by NewScientist, 26May2018, page8, titled "Half of Earth's life has vanished" with opening sentence "The amount of living matter on Earth has fallen by half since the beginning of human civilization." > --- Quoting SCIENCE --- Milo's group reports this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Humans and their livestock (mostly cattle and pigs) outweigh wild mammals by more than 22-fold, and domesticated fowl surpass all other birds in biomass... --- end quote --- Just think of that, our domesticated animals are more than all the mammals and birds in the wild. Stunning, but sad. SCIENCE never, though, gives a sense of urgency to this report. Nor does SCIENCE add the fact that 1/2 of all biomass in gigatons has vanished since human civilization started. I do give urgency, for I think there is more to the answer of 1/2 vanished than increasing farming and urbanization, for I think there is a silent killer of biomass we were never aware of-- fire CO2 is unbreathable by plants and suffocates plants. Now, this gives me another idea of a experiment. Take plants along a highly congested freeway, motorway and collect them and analyze them for body content of CO2. If the plant is suffocating from fire-CO2, there should be ample of it in the plants system. Much like a human who died of CO poisoning, can find a lot of CO in the body of the deceased. (That is, I think they can find abundance CO in the death of a victim.) AP
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-01 23:14 -0700 |
| Subject | Reinterpreting this report as fire CO2 suffocating coral |
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| In reply to | #688207 |
I am looking for coral reefs suffocated by fire CO2 Can the below be interpreted as fire CO2 suffocating corals? —quoting— Response of coral calcification and calcifying fluid composition to thermally induced bleaching stress J. P. D’Olivo & M. T. McCulloch Scientific Reportsvolume 7, Article number: 2207 (2017) Abstract Severe, global-scale thermal stress events like those of 1998 and 2016, are becoming more frequent and intense, potentially compromising the future of coral reefs. Here we report the effects of the 1998 bleaching event on coral calcification as well as the composition of the calcifying fluid (cf) from which corals precipitate their calcium carbonate skeletons. This was investigated by using the Sr/Ca, Li/Mg (temperature), and boron isotopes (δ11B) and B/Ca (carbonate chemistry) proxies in a Porites sp. coral. Following the summer of 1998 the coral exhibited a prolonged period (~18 months) of reduced calcification (~60%) and a breakdown in the seasonality of the geochemical proxies. However, the maintenance of elevated dissolved inorganic carbon (DICcf; >×2 seawater) and pHcf (>8.3 compared to seawater ~8.0) even during severe stress of 1998 indicate that a minimum threshold of high aragonite saturation state (Ωcf) of ~14 (~×4 seawater), is an essential pre-requisite for coral calcification. However, despite maintaining elevated levels of Ωcf even under severe stress, coral growth is still impaired. We attribute this to reductions in either the effective active volume of calcification and/or DICcf as bleaching compromises the photosynthetically fixed carbon pool available to the coral.
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| From | Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-02 09:23 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Reinterpreting this report as fire CO2 suffocating coral |
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| In reply to | #688259 |
On Saturday, June 2, 2018 at 1:14:29 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > I am looking for coral reefs suffocated by fire CO2 > > Can the below be interpreted as fire CO2 suffocating corals? > > —quoting— > > Response of coral calcification and calcifying fluid composition to thermally induced bleaching stress > J. P. D’Olivo & M. T. McCulloch > Scientific Reportsvolume 7, Article number: 2207 (2017) > > Abstract > Severe, global-scale thermal stress events like those of 1998 and 2016, are becoming more frequent and intense, potentially compromising the future of coral reefs. Here we report the effects of the 1998 bleaching event on coral calcification as well as the composition of the calcifying fluid (cf) from which corals precipitate their calcium carbonate skeletons. This was investigated by using the Sr/Ca, Li/Mg (temperature), and boron isotopes (δ11B) and B/Ca (carbonate chemistry) proxies in a Porites sp. coral. Following the summer of 1998 the coral exhibited a prolonged period (~18 months) of reduced calcification (~60%) and a breakdown in the seasonality of the geochemical proxies. However, the maintenance of elevated dissolved inorganic carbon (DICcf; >×2 seawater) and pHcf (>8.3 compared to seawater ~8.0) even during severe stress of 1998 indicate that a minimum threshold of high aragonite saturation state (Ωcf) of ~14 (~×4 seawater), is an essential pre-requisite for coral calcification. However, despite maintaining elevated levels of Ωcf even under severe stress, coral growth is still impaired. We attribute this to reductions in either the effective active volume of calcification and/or DICcf as bleaching compromises the photosynthetically fixed carbon pool available to the coral. I need the ionic and metallic bond, I have the covalent nailed good-- more of stealing than sharing electrons.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-06-02 16:34 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Archimedes "just not bolted down too tight in the first place" Plutonium flunked the physics lifetime-generation test |
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| In reply to | #688288 |
>Here is an example from the Internet in sci.math of Ad Hominem of a writer >who hates the person he is talking to, and no matter what the topic is, >the message is always the same-- I hate your guts. >On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 2:00:46 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote: > >> But can you tell us what is wrong with the following proof that the >> ellipse is a conic section? So you still sling the same ad hominem on me while accusing me of ad hominems? Even after I told you to stop it? How dumb and stoopid is that? "I cannot believe how incredibly stupid Archie-Poo is. I mean rock-hard stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. Surface of Venus under 80 atmospheres of red hot carbon dioxide and sulfuric acid vapor dehydrated for 300 million years rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different sensorium of stupid. Archie-Poo is trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid so collapsed upon itself that it is within its own Schwarzschild radius. Black hole stupid. Stupid gotten so dense and massive that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Archie-Poo emits more stupid/second than our entire galaxy otherwise emits stupid/year. Quasar stupid. Nothing else in the universe can be this stupid. Archie-Poo is an oozingly putrescent primordial fragment from the original Big Bang of Stupid, a pure essence of stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that define maximally extrapolated hypergeometric n-dimensional backgroundless stupid as we can imagine it. Archie-Poo is Planck stupid, a quantum foam of stupid, a vacuum decay of stupid, a grand unified theory of stupid. Archie-Poo is the epitome of stupidity, the epiphany of stupid, the apotheosis of stupidity. Archie-poo is stooopid."
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