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Atoms are Galaxies

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First post2018-05-30 14:11 -0700
Last post2018-06-01 02:59 +0000
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  Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 14:11 -0700
    Re: Atoms are Galaxies Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 01:38 +0000
      Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 22:33 -0700
      Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 22:39 -0700
        Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 22:45 -0700
          Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 23:16 -0700
        Re: Atoms are Galaxies moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-31 06:28 +0000
          Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 23:42 -0700
            Re: Atoms are Galaxies moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-31 17:42 +0000
          Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 23:59 -0700
            Re: Atoms are Galaxies poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 01:50 -0700
            Re: Atoms are Galaxies moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-31 17:45 +0000
        Re: Atoms are Galaxies Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 11:51 +0000
          Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 05:08 -0700
            Re: Atoms are Galaxies Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 14:19 +0000
          Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 05:10 -0700
            Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 05:47 -0700
              Re: Atoms are Galaxies Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 14:20 +0000
                Re: Atoms are Galaxies benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 12:10 -0400
                  Re: Atoms are Galaxies Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 10:28 -0700
              Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 07:28 -0700
                Re: Atoms are Galaxies Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 10:15 -0700
                Re: Atoms are Galaxies moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-31 17:52 +0000
              Re: Atoms are Galaxies moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-31 17:50 +0000
            Re: Atoms are Galaxies Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 14:20 +0000
              Re: Atoms are Galaxies poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-06-01 00:19 -0700
      Re: Atoms are Galaxies moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-31 06:17 +0000
        Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 23:34 -0700
          Re: Atoms are Galaxies Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 14:19 +0000
          Re: Atoms are Galaxies moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-31 17:30 +0000
          Re: Atoms are Galaxies Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:43 -0500
    Re: Atoms are Galaxies Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 07:57 -0700
      Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 08:23 -0700
        Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 08:51 -0700
        Re: Atoms are Galaxies Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 17:08 +0000
        Re: Atoms are Galaxies Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 10:24 -0700
        Re: Atoms are Galaxies moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-31 17:55 +0000
          Re: Atoms are Galaxies Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 18:18 +0000
            Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 16:36 -0700
              Re: Atoms are Galaxies john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 17:33 -0700
                Re: Atoms are Galaxies moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-01 03:01 +0000
              Re: Atoms are Galaxies moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-01 02:59 +0000

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#687870 — Atoms are Galaxies

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-30 14:11 -0700
SubjectAtoms are Galaxies
Message-ID<504b93e0-d08d-47f6-ace2-87b3aa0f4ab9@googlegroups.com>
Okay, this is pretty clear.
So electrons are radiating stars.
So that’s what causes Gravity- those tiny radiations are LeSage’s ultramundane particles.

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#687889

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 01:38 +0000
Message-ID<penjm2$bqc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#687870
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, this is pretty clear.
> So electrons are radiating stars.
> So that’s what causes Gravity- those tiny radiations are LeSage’s ultramundane particles.
> 

Zzzzzzboop...ticktick BING! 
Rebooting......

SYS> Boot disk error. Memory dump commencing 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#687906

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-30 22:33 -0700
Message-ID<716955b8-37de-49a6-9088-12198f67eb2c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687889
Odd
“Zzzzzzboop...ticktick BING! 
Rebooting...... 

SYS> Boot disk error. Memory dump commencing 
”
Are you remembering you’re PD?

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#687908

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-30 22:39 -0700
Message-ID<4ac237e7-cc7b-424f-96ff-d1a4d9d9876f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687889
Odd
“Zzzzzzboop...ticktick BING! 
Rebooting...... 

SYS> Boot disk error. Memory dump commencing 
”
Odd, Big Dog, Absolutely Vertical, The Wiz (you sure are special), PD......
There are others who haven’t heard the essentials of this MODEL. This is for them.
Thanks for coming out, though, you always seem interesting!!

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#687909

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-30 22:45 -0700
Message-ID<b06540ef-e432-4782-8e3a-7eebfcc009e9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687908
Odd
“Zzzzzzboop...ticktick BING! 
Rebooting...... 

SYS> Boot disk error. Memory dump commencing 
”
I must say, though, your Atom-in-a-box is SO interesting, how the little clouds just POOF out like that!!
How do they DO that?
Amazing!!

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#687915

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-30 23:16 -0700
Message-ID<8ed3e4dc-f041-4cbd-b7dd-683d4dcd7841@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687909
Odd- yes- your Atom in a Box!!
That must be in upper-years Physics, though, hey?
The mathematics!!!
Wonderful!

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#687918

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-05-31 06:28 +0000
Message-ID<peo4mf$s56$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#687908
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Odd, Big Dog, Absolutely Vertical, The Wiz (you sure are special), PD......

Another hallmark of the k0Oks. Everyone who seems to know science and
criticises the kꙭk's pet theory is just PD in disguise. (oddly, usually
everyone but me...) Maybe it just overloads their tiny mind that there can
actually be several knowledgeable people who see all the faults in their
pet theory, so they project it to everyone being a PD sock.

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#687923

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-30 23:42 -0700
Message-ID<e85bfa2e-66fe-4d91-ba38-c8b392f28269@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687918
MM
“Another hallmark of the k0Oks. Everyone who seems to know science and 
criticises the kꙭk's”

Written communications are harder to disguise than voice.

AV, The Wiz, Big Dog weren’t PD?
HVAC wasn’t, but he just died.
The others just all talked the same but went through a kind of one-after-the-other metamorphosis.
It was weird.
We KNOW Odd is PD, but he’s just being Internet-safe, aren’t you, Odd?

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#687972

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-05-31 17:42 +0000
Message-ID<pepc6s$656$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#687923
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>“Another hallmark of the k0Oks. Everyone who seems to know science and
>criticises the kꙭk's”

>Written communications are harder to disguise than voice.

So any two people who happen to write similar (to you) must really be the 
same person?

>AV, The Wiz, Big Dog weren’t PD?

I see no evidence of it.  PD hasn't even posted here for years other than
to stop in once in a while, probably for amusement to watch all the kooks
claim everyone else is really him. The others haven't posted at all.

>HVAC wasn’t, but he just died.

I did not know that.

>The others just all talked the same but went through a kind of one-after-the-other metamorphosis.
>It was weird.
>We KNOW Odd is PD,

"We"? Voices in your head know that as well?

> but he’s just being Internet-safe, aren’t you, Odd?

Odd just thinks it's not a wise idea to post with his real name. Given the
large number of kooks around, good thinking, since you never know when one
of them may turn out to become a stalker or be dangerous. Look at hanson
and Bert.

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#687924

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-30 23:59 -0700
Message-ID<09874c67-9258-4802-9338-2f418db64065@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687918
MM
“pet theory”
Yes, Michael, atoms are galaxies is my ‘pet theory’.
It’s a good theory.

All the new observations are going to support it.
Won’t that be fun for you and Odd?

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#687927

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-05-31 01:50 -0700
Message-ID<40a7849b-a6d7-4766-85fd-515a2f0a41e6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687924
On Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 9:59:20 AM UTC+3, john wrote:
> MM
> “pet theory”
> Yes, Michael, atoms are galaxies is my ‘pet theory’.
> It’s a good theory.
> 
> All the new observations are going to support it.
> Won’t that be fun for you and Odd?
========================
Hi John 
just cool   down !!
take an advice from your fried y :
Atoms are not galaxies !!
==
ATB
Y.P
==============================

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#687974

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-05-31 17:45 +0000
Message-ID<pepcc5$656$3@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#687924
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>“pet theory”
>Yes, Michael, atoms are galaxies is my ‘pet theory’.

More like OCD.

>It’s a good theory.

Lay off the stupid pills, John.

>All the new observations are going to support it.
>Won’t that be fun for you and Odd?

And if they don't?

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#687933

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 11:51 +0000
Message-ID<peonk4$4t3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#687908
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “Zzzzzzboop...ticktick BING! 
> Rebooting...... 
> 
>> Boot disk error. Memory dump commencing 
> ”
> Odd, Big Dog, Absolutely Vertical, The Wiz (you sure are special), PD......
> There are others who haven’t heard the essentials of this MODEL. This is for them.
> Thanks for coming out, though, you always seem interesting!!
> 

You seem to never tire of claiming that you have a model and physicists
don’t. Except that yours is not a physical model and you can’t produce a
physical model. You just produce what you like and call it a model. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#687934

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 05:08 -0700
Message-ID<a682f9ca-26b0-4e91-957e-4f323906e1a1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687933
Odd
“
You seem to never tire of claiming that you have a model and physicists 
don’t. Except that yours is not a physical model and you can’t produce a 
physical model. You just produce what you like and call it a model. ”

What’s not physical about a galaxy?
You know that the spherical volume of gas contained in each galaxy extends out past the halo and turns the same direction as the main disk?
But galactic satellites are all in a flat plane around and at right-angles to the disk?

You DO know that?

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#687943

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 14:19 +0000
Message-ID<pep0af$l2e$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#687934
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “
> You seem to never tire of claiming that you have a model and physicists 
> don’t. Except that yours is not a physical model and you can’t produce a 
> physical model. You just produce what you like and call it a model. ”
> 
> What’s not physical about a galaxy?

That’s just the point. A physical model is not just any model about
something physical, anymore than a painting of an atom is a physical model
of an atom. 

As I said, you do not know what a physical model means and you don’t care
to know. You want to pretend. You’re not a scientist but you play one on
the internet. 

> You know that the spherical volume of gas contained in each galaxy
> extends out past the halo and turns the same direction as the main disk?
> But galactic satellites are all in a flat plane around and at right-angles to the disk?
> 
> You DO know that?
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#687935

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 05:10 -0700
Message-ID<d6138965-66c6-4947-8226-39bb584bc790@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687933
Odd
“
You seem to never tire of claiming that you have a model and physicists 
don’t. Except that yours is not a physical model and you can’t produce a 
physical model. You just produce what you like and call it a model. ”

Don’t worry, Odd!!!
You and Porat are on the same side on this!

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#687939

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 05:47 -0700
Message-ID<3bafb8a7-8ab0-4a08-befd-1ce20e78351f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687935
Odd and MM
“You and Porat are on the same side on this!”

Atoms’ electrons are equivalent to galactic star arms and radiate just like stars.
PD pressured me to find the radiation  that causes gravity and this is it.
Thanks PD!
You can come out of the closet, now

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#687945

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 14:20 +0000
Message-ID<pep0ah$l2e$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#687939
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd and MM
> “You and Porat are on the same side on this!”
> 
> Atoms’ electrons are equivalent to galactic star arms and radiate just like stars.
> PD pressured me to find the radiation  that causes gravity and this is it.
> Thanks PD!
> You can come out of the closet, now
> 

What radiation from electrons in atoms? What radiation from stars in
galaxies? I’m talking about detection in experiments. Or is this just a
hypothesized radiation? If so how do you propose detecting it?

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#687956

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-31 12:10 -0400
Message-ID<q8VPC.46360$Kp4.10784@fx43.iad>
In reply to#687945
On 5/31/2018 10:20 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Odd and MM
>> “You and Porat are on the same side on this!”
>>
>> Atoms’ electrons are equivalent to galactic star arms and radiate just like stars.
>> PD pressured me to find the radiation  that causes gravity and this is it.
>> Thanks PD!
>> You can come out of the closet, now
>>
> 
> What radiation from electrons in atoms? What radiation from stars in
> galaxies? I’m talking about detection in experiments. Or is this just a
> hypothesized radiation? If so how do you propose detecting it?
> 
There are MANY experiments over centuries of data. But "your" 
establishement science has always refused to even look at it.
Pretty anti-intellectual if you ask me. Just keep sticking your head in 
the sand, Odd.

(PS, John is wrong about "spiral arms" causing gravity. He must have 
been listening to Faker again.)

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#687969

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 10:28 -0700
Message-ID<e01b7586-db38-4b5f-a81c-77e7b40f60d7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#687956
On Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 12:11:06 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On 5/31/2018 10:20 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Odd and MM
> >> “You and Porat are on the same side on this!”
> >>
> >> Atoms’ electrons are equivalent to galactic star arms and radiate just like stars.
> >> PD pressured me to find the radiation  that causes gravity and this is it.
> >> Thanks PD!
> >> You can come out of the closet, now
> >>
> > 
> > What radiation from electrons in atoms? What radiation from stars in
> > galaxies? I’m talking about detection in experiments. Or is this just a
> > hypothesized radiation? If so how do you propose detecting it?
> > 
> There are MANY experiments over centuries of data. But "your" 
> establishement science has always refused to even look at it.
> Pretty anti-intellectual if you ask me. Just keep sticking your head in 
> the sand, Odd.

Calling your BS, benj.
Care to provide ONE reference to some unknown electron radiation
which is the source of gravity?

None?
I thought so.

Ed

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