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  _Lewis structure is really based on 6, not 8 Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 06:59 -0700
    _Lewis structure is really based on 6, not 8 Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 07:00 -0700
      CO2 isomers absorb different solar radiation Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 07:25 -0700
        how AP-Maxwell Equations explains why Lewis structure is based on 6, not 8  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 13:54 -0700
          with Lewis 6, not 8, CO2 is forced to have at least two isomers  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 17:00 -0700
            In N2, the bonding is where superposition of two sets of 6 lobes becomes one set  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 22:35 -0700
              start all chemistry of Lewis structure with dinitrogen N2  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 11:51 -0700
                doing the O2 molecule Re: start all chemistry of Lewis structure with dinitrogen N2  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 14:38 -0700
                  two P_z lobes for O2  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 17:15 -0700
                    two P_z lobes for O2  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 18:35 -0700
                      O3 is O2 bonded to a single O Re: two P_z lobes for O2  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 20:07 -0700
                        O3 is O2 bonded to a single O Re: two P_z lobes for O2  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 01:29 -0700
                          All of chemistry atomic and molecular geometry is that of electric coil seeking  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 10:30 -0700
                            basic knowledge and understanding that we really need to know-- why O2 is essential to live  Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 12:27 -0700
                              Re: basic knowledge and understanding that we really need to know-- why O2 is essential to live Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2 benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-16 16:39 -0400
                            All of chemistry atomic and molecular geometry is that of electric coil seeking  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 14:50 -0700
                              chemical bonding is electric coil seeking  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 15:05 -0700
                              Re: All of chemistry atomic and molecular geometry is that of electric coil seeking Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-17 02:35 +0000
                              Re: All of chemistry atomic and molecular geometry is that of electric coil seeking  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 21:56 -0700
                                N2 outer shell muons are similar to neon outer shell  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 22:44 -0700
                                  replacing Lewis structure with Maximum Electric Coil  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 10:34 -0700
                                    Re: Archimedes "Failure" Plutonium flunks the lifelong Math test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-17 19:16 +0000
                                    replacing Lewis structure with Maximum Electric Coil  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 13:05 -0700
                                      Maximum Electric Coil for hydrogen & helium  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 15:27 -0700
                                        on O2 Re: Maximum Electric Coil for hydrogen & helium  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 16:21 -0700
                                          BN Re: Maximum Electric Coil for hydrogen & helium  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 19:13 -0700
                                            Re: BN Re: Maximum Electric Coil for hydrogen & helium  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 19:27 -0700
                                              Re: BN Re: Maximum Electric Coil for hydrogen & helium Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-18 04:35 +0000
                                            Re: BN Re: Maximum Electric Coil for hydrogen & helium  Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 22:01 -0700
                                              sketch of helium maximum electricity coil Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 22:30 -0700
                                                let's do hydrogen Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 23:01 -0700
                                                  Re: let's do hydrogen Re: CO2 has two isomers,  and plants only can use animal CO2 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 06:30 -0700
                                                    Re: Archimedes "Failure" Plutonium flunks the lifelong Math test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-18 16:25 +0000
                                                      Re: Archimedes "Failure" Plutonium flunks the lifelong Math test Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 09:46 -0700
                                Re: Archimedes "Failure" Plutonium flunks the lifelong Math test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-17 06:21 +0000

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#685396 — _Lewis structure is really based on 6, not 8 Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

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Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 06:44:17 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Lewis structure is really based on 6, not 8 Re: CO2 has two isomers,
 and plants only can use animal CO2
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
Injection-Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 13:44:18 +0000

Lewis structure is really based on 6, not 8 Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 10:40:42 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: 
> There is a lot to digest on the pages 572 and 573, but all of this is mere theory, no hard core experiment that would upset everything written on pages 572 and 573 of Oxtoby Nachtrieb. I mean, two terrariums vacuum suck out all the gases, reinsert animal CO2 and N2, O2 etc, and second terrarium fire-CO2 with N2, O2 etc. See if plants can only live under animal CO2 not fire CO2. Until that experiment is done, theory is just theory worth almost nothing. 
> 
> Once the experiment is done, then have all sorts of second and third looks at spectroscopy of CO2. 
> 

Arguably, pages 572 & 573 (2nd ed. 1990, Principles of Modern Chemistry)  are the most difficult two pages in all of Oxtoby-Nachtrieb, difficult because of inconsistent logic, that is, they do not make sense, they contradict physics. So, I am going to have to replace that portion of Chemistry, with a true Lewis structure. That is what is at fault here. And let me start a new thread on the true Lewis Structure, for the old Lewis is based on the number 8. Why that is so is unbelievably unclear to me, and probably most everyone else, for the p orbital where all the action is taking place-- want to be a inert gas structure for all molecules-- that involves just the p-orbital, meaning 6, not 8. And that is probably why CO2 has two isomers, but Old Physics, Old Chemistry going on a theory of 8 for Lewis structure, makes the blunders it makes. 

But a theory of Lewis 6, not 8 has surprizing consequences where we have H2O as this 

       . . 
       O 
    /     \ 
   H     H 
          
and where we have dinitrogen as this 
   _ 
N=N 

which pictorially is that the two nitrogen atoms are superimposed together as one p-orbital 

Same goes for CO 

But for CO2, which Oxtoby-Nachtrieb just cannot make a consistent picture using Lewis 8. 

       . . 
       O 
    /     \ 
   C --O 
          . . 

But what is consistent with Lewis 6, as shown in Oxtoby-Nachtrieb page 573 figure 15-17 (a) is when the P_z suborbital of O, O , and C are superimposed as one -- all three being one suborbital. 

That would make animal-CO2 be that of the above triangular sketch 

       . . 
       O 
    /     \ 
   C --O 
          . . 

But that fire-CO2 would look like this 

:O-C-O: 

And where the fire-- the extra energy places that carbon atom superimposed upon both the P_z suborbitals of the two oxygen. 

From this, I gather the idea that plants just cannot use fire-CO2 for it takes too much energy out of the plant to turn the linear CO2 into a triangular CO2 to utilize for the plant. 

AP

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#685397

—-quoting Wikipedia—-

A triple bond in chemistry is a chemical bond between two atoms involving six bonding electrons instead of the usual two in a covalent single bond. The most common triple bond, that between two carbon atoms, can be found in alkynes. Other functional groups containing a triple bond are cyanides and isocyanides. Some diatomic molecules, such as dinitrogen and carbon monoxide, are also triple bonded. In skeletal formula the triple bond is drawn as three parallel lines (≡) between the two connected atoms.[1][2][3]

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#685400 — CO2 isomers absorb different solar radiation Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 9:00:55 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> —-quoting Wikipedia—-
> 
> A triple bond in chemistry is a chemical bond between two atoms involving six bonding electrons instead of the usual two in a covalent single bond. The most common triple bond, that between two carbon atoms, can be found in alkynes. Other functional groups containing a triple bond are cyanides and isocyanides. Some diatomic molecules, such as dinitrogen and carbon monoxide, are also triple bonded. In skeletal formula the triple bond is drawn as three parallel lines (≡) between the two connected atoms.[1][2][3]

Alright, we need a research team to experiment with the idea that CO2 has two isomers and that the animal CO2 as triangular while the fire-CO2 is linear, that the linear form has a very different Greenhouse Gas Effect from the triangular form, so that the fire-CO2 absorbs solar radiation different than animal CO2.

AP

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#685444 — how AP-Maxwell Equations explains why Lewis structure is based on 6, not 8 Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

Alright, a massive overhaul of Lewis structure theory is required. It is false to think that 8 is governing the Lewis diagrams, but rather the number 6 is governing the Lewis build of a molecule chemical bonding for much of the P-orbitals, especially the elements boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine, neon.

Why did Lewis diagrams use and depend on the number 8? Frankly, I am not clear about that myself, why they chose 8, when its true math number was 6. Perhaps Old Chemistry ran into a Octet Rule of 8 and thought that something important as Lewis diagrams required 8 because of octet rule.

But, now, a new question arises, why would chemistry Lewis structure be built on 6, not 8? And here I am most definitely clear headed why 6. Because the P orbital is, after all 6 electrons= muons. So if you build a theory on Lewis diagram of atoms and molecules-- wishing to be like neon or an inert gas -- then you better build that theory of Lewis on P orbital which entails just 6 electrons, not any 2 from the S orbitals. So like in H2O, we are not crazily trying to place 8 dots around Hydrogen atoms in H2O, only, crazily trying to place 8 dots around the O oxygen atom. But why is 6 the true number for H2O, and here the answer is that O seeks being like neon a filled P orbitals and that means 6 muons=electron. But the explanation is not full explanation without the AP-Maxwell Equations weighing in on the matter.

The AP-Maxwell Equations want a full closed loop circuit for chemistry bonding for the Faraday law. And so this chemistry "seeking to be a neon full P orbital by boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine" this seeking is that of becoming a full closed loop Faraday law structure. Carbon by itself is not a full closed loop circuit and is missing 4 muons, and oxygen by itself is not a full closed loop circuit and is missing 2 muons. So, the reason we can have CO, is because 4+2 = 6 where the C and O atom become superimposed, just as N2 where the two nitrogen atoms become as one atom structure, but still a molecule. And this 6 Lewis theory demands that CO2 have isomers, for there are several ways of combinind C with O and O to have 6 muons on all three atoms.

But the AP-Maxwell Equations as a theory, demands each orbital of s, p, d, f, each orbital be filled so as to have a closed loop so a thrusting bar magnet-- a muon through the loop creates new magnetic monopoles. This is the "seeking to be a inert gas" of Old Chemistry.

AP

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#685475 — with Lewis 6, not 8, CO2 is forced to have at least two isomers Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

So, with a Lewis structure based on 6 electrons= muons, not on 8 (dots), then we have the overwhelming need for isomers of the CO2 molecule. With 8 dots, instead of 6, we could be fooled to think CO2 has no isomers, but with 6 dots, it almost forces us to realize CO2 has at least two independent isomers, each with a different energy configuration.

AP

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#685520 — In N2, the bonding is where superposition of two sets of 6 lobes becomes one set Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 7:00:27 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> So, with a Lewis structure based on 6 electrons= muons, not on 8 (dots), then we have the overwhelming need for isomers of the CO2 molecule. With 8 dots, instead of 6, we could be fooled to think CO2 has no isomers, but with 6 dots, it almost forces us to realize CO2 has at least two independent isomers, each with a different energy configuration.
> 
> 

So, now, looking at page 573, Oxtoby- Nachtrieb, Principles of Modern Chemistry, 1990, 2nd edition. Page 573 showing the P_x, the P_y and the P_z suborbitals for CO2 and where Oxtoby and Nachtrieb use a Lewis structure based on 8, when the true basis is 6, because P orbitals has just 6 electrons= muons. And where Old Chemistry has the stupid, terrible stupid idea that a chemical bond is where one part of the P_x of Oxygen coincides with a piece of the P_x of carbon and this intersection of (a balloon pictured lobe), this intersection or touching of lobes is what the Chemical bond is all about.

But now if you take Lewis structure based on 6, then, the bond would be a total intersection, even a superposition, so that N2, of each Nitrogen having just 3 electrons, that you have those 6 lobes coinciding, not touching but actually starting out with 6 lobes in N and another 6 in the second N and joining in together coming out as 6 lobes where one nitrogen crawled into the other nitrogen, both nitrogens dissolving into one set of 6 lobes-- superposition.

When you have a Lewis structure based on 6, not 8, you have superposition and no longer this silly idea of "touching or intersection as bonding for N2 or CO2" Now minor bonds like van der Waals can be a touching or intersection. But major bonds of metallic, ionic, covalent, those involve superposition.

AP

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#685610 — start all chemistry of Lewis structure with dinitrogen N2 Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

It is a good idea, very good idea to start all of Chemistry bonding with dinitrogen N2, to understand Lewis structure and to understand the geometry for what happens is the 3 electrons=muons of one nitrogen atom superposition their entire geometry into the second nitrogen atom making a filled P_x, P_y, and P_z.

In Old Chemistry-- their N2 was bonding by touching or intersection of lobes of the P orbital. And their Lewis structure was that of 8 not based on 6.

When you base Lewis on 6, bonding of the strong bonds are superposition, not a mere touching or intersection.

We start with N2 for all the theory of Lewis structure, and what that does, is prove that the CO2 molecule must have several isomers. This implies animal CO2 is far far different than the CO2 borne out of fire, borne out of burning fossil fuels.

AP

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#685647 — doing the O2 molecule Re: start all chemistry of Lewis structure with dinitrogen N2 Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:51:40 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> It is a good idea, very good idea to start all of Chemistry bonding with dinitrogen N2, to understand Lewis structure and to understand the geometry for what happens is the 3 electrons=muons of one nitrogen atom superposition their entire geometry into the second nitrogen atom making a filled P_x, P_y, and P_z.
> 
> In Old Chemistry-- their N2 was bonding by touching or intersection of lobes of the P orbital. And their Lewis structure was that of 8 not based on 6.
> 
> When you base Lewis on 6, bonding of the strong bonds are superposition, not a mere touching or intersection.
> 
> We start with N2 for all the theory of Lewis structure, and what that does, is prove that the CO2 molecule must have several isomers. This implies animal CO2 is far far different than the CO2 borne out of fire, borne out of burning fossil fuels.
> 
>

So now, let us look at Oxygen of O2 molecule as per true Lewis structure would be

:O=O:

Old Chemistry had the stupid notion that O2 was this, and we see how silly they were
 ..      ..
:O = O:

barn yard laughing silly, yes, barn yard laughing silly because you can never get superposition in Old Chemistry, for in New Chemistry

In O2, the P_z and P_y of O2 are superpositioned as one and the same,  while we have a suborbital of P_x for the first oxygen atom and a second P_x near the first for the second oxygen atom.

In New Chemistry, double and triple bonds means superposition. Single bonds means intersection of lobes of P orbital.

AP

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#685683 — two P_z lobes for O2 Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 4:38:11 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:51:40 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > It is a good idea, very good idea to start all of Chemistry bonding with dinitrogen N2, to understand Lewis structure and to understand the geometry for what happens is the 3 electrons=muons of one nitrogen atom superposition their entire geometry into the second nitrogen atom making a filled P_x, P_y, and P_z.
> > 
> > In Old Chemistry-- their N2 was bonding by touching or intersection of lobes of the P orbital. And their Lewis structure was that of 8 not based on 6.
> > 
> > When you base Lewis on 6, bonding of the strong bonds are superposition, not a mere touching or intersection.
> > 
> > We start with N2 for all the theory of Lewis structure, and what that does, is prove that the CO2 molecule must have several isomers. This implies animal CO2 is far far different than the CO2 borne out of fire, borne out of burning fossil fuels.
> > 
> >
> 
> So now, let us look at Oxygen of O2 molecule as per true Lewis structure would be
> 
> :O=O:
> 
> Old Chemistry had the stupid notion that O2 was this, and we see how silly they were
>  ..      ..
> :O = O:
> 
> barn yard laughing silly, yes, barn yard laughing silly because you can never get superposition in Old Chemistry, for in New Chemistry
> 
> In O2, the P_z and P_y of O2 are superpositioned as one and the same,  while we have a suborbital of P_x for the first oxygen atom and a second P_x near the first for the second oxygen atom.
> 
> In New Chemistry, double and triple bonds means superposition. Single bonds means intersection of lobes of P orbital.
> 
> 

Now I may have that turned around backwards for we consider the x to be the first axis, then the y then the z, in that order, and so the Superposition of the first 6 electrons=muons of the 8 muons composing two oxygen atoms would fill the Px and Py and the two oxygen atoms would have identical P_x and P_y for they rest in each other-- occupy the very same space. But then the P_z would be two different P lobes each lobe carrying two muons.

In this viewpoint molecules like O2 and N2 are seen as a sort of hybrid individual atom.

Now let me see if oxygen has that characteristic feature of what one could call --- two separate P_z lobes.

AP

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#685705 — two P_z lobes for O2 Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

—-quoting Wikipedia on O2 —-

In the triplet form, O
2 molecules are paramagnetic. That is, they impart magnetic character to oxygen when it is in the presence of a magnetic field, because of the spin magnetic moments of the unpaired electrons in the molecule, and the negative exchange energy between neighboring O
2 molecules.[19] Liquid oxygen is so magnetic that, in laboratory demonstrations, a bridge of liquid oxygen may be supported against its own weight between the poles of a powerful magnet

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#685724 — O3 is O2 bonded to a single O Re: two P_z lobes for O2 Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 8:35:33 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> —-quoting Wikipedia on O2 —-
> 
> In the triplet form, O
> 2 molecules are paramagnetic. That is, they impart magnetic character to oxygen when it is in the presence of a magnetic field, because of the spin magnetic moments of the unpaired electrons in the molecule, and the negative exchange energy between neighboring O
> 2 molecules.[19] Liquid oxygen is so magnetic that, in laboratory demonstrations, a bridge of liquid oxygen may be supported against its own weight between the poles of a powerful magnet

Now the ozone molecule O3 is much easier to explain than the O2 in Lewis structure because 4+4+4 = 12
and so -- because you have two Oxygens superpositioned in O2 with a double P_z and this double P_z contributes one of its P_z and gives it to the third oxygen atom to make its 4 muons with 2 more muons fulfill its 6 muons.

    O2
   /    
:O:

AP

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#685741 — O3 is O2 bonded to a single O Re: two P_z lobes for O2 Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

I am going to change a little direction here with the concept of superposition with the idea that atoms strive to be a inert gas— Lewis 6 structure but strive to be the geometry of a whole individual atom rather than intersection and attachment. For example, N2 is not N attached to N but more like one N with filled orbitals.

AP

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#685777 — All of chemistry atomic and molecular geometry is that of electric coil seeking Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 3:29:18 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> I am going to change a little direction here with the concept of superposition with the idea that atoms strive to be a inert gas— Lewis 6 structure but strive to be the geometry of a whole individual atom rather than intersection and attachment. For example, N2 is not N attached to N but more like one N with filled orbitals.
> 
> 

Alright, good, now we are getting somewhere, somewhere fantastic.

What we do is combine these two ideas-- Lewis is 6, not 8, and the geometry of chemical bonds is to imitate as much as possible the geometry of a inert gas as a filled 6 electrons=muons of the P orbital. None of this touching or intersection nonsense, but rather outright occupying the same space-- call it ELECTRICITY GEOMETRY. For the aim of all atoms, is to produce as much electricity as possible-- and so they configure themselves, like a master electrician configures to produce maximum electricity. Now the electricity is the same as production of magnetic monopoles.

The key molecule is N2, where its 3 muons of one N and the three muons of the second N form a P orbital of maximum electricity, and it is shown on page 572 upper right corner of Oxtoby - Nachtrieb under the caption of 

C_1 p_x(A) + C_2 p_x(B) + C_1 p_x(C)

Old Chemistry had a horrible time with these P orbital lobes, for they actually stymied those chemists and physicists in understanding orbitals and bonding.

Every atom and molecule seeks to be a maximum producer of internal electricity, or better said, produce maximum amounts of magnetic monopoles. This production of magnetic monopoles is a atom's way of converting Space, yes, space itself, being converting into monopoles. This is done via the Faraday Law, that the protons of atoms are just muons, 8 muons formed into a coil, and the active electron muon is the bar magnet that thrusts through the 8 muon = proton coil converting Space into electricity which is a newly borne magnetic monopole. Most of these newly borne magnetic monopoles are a mere 2 eV, but on occasion a atom or molecule gives birth inside itself to a .5 MeV magnetic monopole, not often but on occasion especially radioactive atoms or molecules, for radioactivity is those atoms or molecules with the most production of converting Space into magnetic monopoles.

So, Nitrogen is the test case of this New Chemistry-- that N2 is 6 Lewis structure, not 8. And the geometry configuration of N2 is maximum electricity, and the way that is done is Oxtoby-Nachtrieb's picture of 
C_1 p_x(A) + C_2 p_x(B) + C_1 p_x(C) for that picture is the turning of P_x, P_y, P_z into a Faraday law coil. You turn the 3 muons on one nitrogen as 1/2 of the coil and the other 3 muons on the second nitrogen into the second 1/2 of the coil.

Now the bonding of O2 is for maximum electricity and it is close in geometry design to N2 but has 2 muons  that decrease the design of N2 configuration, and so, O2 is more unstable than is N2. On the other side of N2 is carbon and here we see the most stable carbon at room temperature if actually graphite, not diamond and has that 6 hexagonal shape where 3 C atoms are connected to forming a geometry electric-
cell. But for diamond formed under extreme heat and pressure a 4 C atoms form a geometry electric-cell.

In a electricity-geometry sense O2 is much like Diamond whereas graphite is much like N2 in stability. For, which is the most difficult dissociation energy-- cleaving C atoms from a graphite hex bonding (a C atom in one integral layer) or cleaving C atoms from a diamond. Remember, diamonds do have cleavage.

So what we have to start doing is visualization of atom and molecule geometry as that of a Faraday Coil geometry, not as silly P orbital lobes, with touching and intersection of lobes as bonding,-- no, that is silly science. For the P orbital is constructed to be that of a electricity coil.

AP

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#685800 — basic knowledge and understanding that we really need to know-- why O2 is essential to live Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

Alright this is mostly a gripe by me over education. One of the basic most important facts and understanding of life is breathing. How does breathing Oxygen be so essential for animals? I mean, in 5 minutes without Oxygen you are dead. And now, we ask all departing graduate students in college in science, we ask them-- how is an animal dead after 5 minutes without oxygen. Do you think we would find just 1 or 2 graduate students out of 1,000 able to answer that question with some degree of accuracy? I would guess that only medical science students might come up with the correct answer. I would also guess that Wikipedia has no entry for the answer. And I would further bet that no web page discusses how lack of oxygen actually kills the animal. Now I have to admit myself I was foggy on this, so I called a professor of biology to make sure I had it correct.

Here is my answer:

Each cell has Mitochondria

In the Mitochondria is a Magnetic Monopole Transport System (Old Science would call it the Electron Transport System, but electrons are 105 MeV, and the .5MeV are the magnetic monopoles)

When you stop the flow of oxygen, you halt that Transport System and so the cell itself stops functioning.

After 5 minutes without oxygen, a massive large number of cells stop functioning and thus death, because the cells halted what they are supposed to do.

This is the type of knowledge of science that every graduate of science should be able to know. And it is sad that in High School this is not taught. Of course, you need not have to dive into Transport System, but explain it in general.

AP

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#685815 — Re: basic knowledge and understanding that we really need to know-- why O2 is essential to live Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

On 5/16/2018 3:27 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Alright this is mostly a gripe by me over education. One of the basic most important facts and understanding of life is breathing. How does breathing Oxygen be so essential for animals? I mean, in 5 minutes without Oxygen you are dead. And now, we ask all departing graduate students in college in science, we ask them-- how is an animal dead after 5 minutes without oxygen. Do you think we would find just 1 or 2 graduate students out of 1,000 able to answer that question with some degree of accuracy? I would guess that only medical science students might come up with the correct answer. I would also guess that Wikipedia has no entry for the answer. And I would further bet that no web page discusses how lack of oxygen actually kills the animal. Now I have to admit myself I was foggy on this, so I called a professor of biology to make sure I had it correct.

And after he got up from rolling on the floor laughing what did he say?

> Here is my answer:
> 
> Each cell has Mitochondria
> 
> In the Mitochondria is a Magnetic Monopole Transport System (Old Science would call it the Electron Transport System, but electrons are 105 MeV, and the .5MeV are the magnetic monopoles)
> 
> When you stop the flow of oxygen, you halt that Transport System and so the cell itself stops functioning.
> 
> After 5 minutes without oxygen, a massive large number of cells stop functioning and thus death, because the cells halted what they are supposed to do.
> 
> This is the type of knowledge of science that every graduate of science should be able to know. And it is sad that in High School this is not taught. Of course, you need not have to dive into Transport System, but explain it in general.

Magnetic monopoles are as imaginary as triangular CO2, Archiepoo. Stop 
cooking in aluminum pans.

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#685849 — All of chemistry atomic and molecular geometry is that of electric coil seeking Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

So now methane is C surrounded by 4 H atoms— not to make 8 but to make 6 in Lewis 6 structure.

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#685855 — chemical bonding is electric coil seeking Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

So the direction this is going is the Lewis diagram whether 8 or 6 is a worthless concept and at best a poor poor analogy— something that gives a teacher something to talk about and nothing more. For what is needed to replace Lewis is given a x amount of atoms with y amount of electrons= muons, how to best configure those muons to form electric coils in the Faraday law. For N2 the best arrangement is all six muons superpose as being a neon atom. The reason no atoms bond to helium or neon is they are maximum electric coils for their x and y amounts.

AP

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#685884 — Re: All of chemistry atomic and molecular geometry is that of electric coil seeking Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> writes:

>So now methane is C surrounded by 4 H atoms-- not to make 8 but to make 6 
>in Lewis 6 structure.

Remember, the four hydrogens of methane are identical, as long as none are
deuterium or something, there is no way to tell one from another. Think of
a perfect tetrahedron sitting on a table. If someone comes along and flips
it so that a different corner is up, there is no way to tell that has
happened. Keep that in mind while you struggle with that. This is what
tripped up John Sefton who tried to create methane out of his beloved
spinny things. Rotation has an axis which creates a preferred direction in
the central carbon, dooming John's attempt.

Have fun!

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#685902 — Re: All of chemistry atomic and molecular geometry is that of electric coil seeking Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 4:50:10 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> So now methane is C surrounded by 4 H atoms— not to make 8 but to make 6 in Lewis 6 structure.
> 
> 

Let me see if I can do the hexagonal structure of graphite.


      ___
    /      \
    \ __ /

It tiles the plane and every C atom is surrounded by three other C atoms at 120degrees

AP

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#685908 — N2 outer shell muons are similar to neon outer shell Re: CO2 has two isomers, and plants only can use animal CO2

On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 11:56:58 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 4:50:10 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > So now methane is C surrounded by 4 H atoms— not to make 8 but to make 6 in Lewis 6 structure.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Let me see if I can do the hexagonal structure of graphite.
> 
> 
>       ___
>     /      \
>     \ __ /
> 
> It tiles the plane and every C atom is surrounded by three other C atoms at 120degrees
> 

Excuse me for sputtering here, for I am trying to eliminate Lewis structure altogether, and replace it with Maximum flow of electricity with electrons forming a coil of closed loops. The reason carbon, or nitrogen or oxygen want to bond is because there outer electrons= muons do not form a closed loop, a coil for the Faraday law, and thus they seek partner atoms to close the loop, forming a coil so they can produce more magnetic monopoles and grow the molecule or atom. The neon atom is a closed loop, a coil, and the way Nitrogen achieves that same coil configuration is by N2 bonding. For in nitrogen + nitrogen we have 3+3 = 6 and neon is 6. But a little tricky here for oxygen since O+O is 4+4 = 8 and we have 2 muons in excess.

So, N2 is a molecule that in very much respects is an enlarged neon atom, albeit with two separate nuclei, but its outer shell of a combined 6 muons is a electricity coil similar to neon's electricity coil.

So, what is different about O2, for it has a surplus of 2 muons. Let me sleep on this one.

AP

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