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I passed my Ph.D. defence

Started byDavid Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>
First post2018-04-20 00:51 -0230
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  I passed my Ph.D. defence David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> - 2018-04-20 00:51 -0230
    Re: I passed my Ph.D. defence Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-19 23:05 -0500
      Re: I passed my Ph.D. defence benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-20 18:20 -0400
        Re: I passed my Ph.D. defence Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-20 18:40 -0500
    Re: I passed my Ph.D. defence Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 07:59 -0700
    Re: I passed my Ph.D. defence Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 12:09 -0500
    Re: I passed my Ph.D. defence benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-20 18:14 -0400
      Re: I passed my Ph.D. defence Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-20 18:43 -0500
        Re: I passed my Ph.D. defence David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> - 2018-04-20 22:04 -0230
      Re: I passed my Ph.D. defence Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 08:44 -0700
        Re: I passed my Ph.D. defence benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-23 15:25 -0400
          Re: I passed my Ph.D. defence Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-23 15:20 -0500
    Re: I passed my Ph.D. defence David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> - 2018-06-01 02:23 -0230

#681726 — I passed my Ph.D. defence

FromDavid Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>
Date2018-04-20 00:51 -0230
SubjectI passed my Ph.D. defence
Message-ID<0001HW.20899440017F8553700006E292CF@news.eternal-september.org>
It was a rough 2.5 hours, but this afternoon I passed my final
Ph.D. oral defence. Now all I have to do is make some
corrections to my thesis, submit it to the library, and
attend Convocation on May 30.

My thesis is in geophysics, specifically applied math applied
to theoretical seismology and continuum mechanics. The
title is "On Backus average in modelling guided waves”
and I will announce on here when the final version is
available online.

I probably would have gotten my Ph.D. back in 1993 if I
hadn’t been affected by bipolar disorder starting in 1991,
but luckily I have not had significant problems since
early 2005 and have not been in hospital since July, 1996.

The CV on my home page needs to be updated with the
recent Ph.D. residency and with the five papers on which
the thesis is based, but I probably won’t do that until
after I get my thesis in the library. I plan to take the
summer mostly off but will start looking for a postdoc
for the fall or winter reasonably soon.

-- 
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“and if I shed a tear I won't cage it/I won't fear love
and if I feel a rage I won't deny it/I won't fear love" (Sarah McLachlan)

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#681736

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-04-19 23:05 -0500
Message-ID<pbbouq$t7n$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#681726
On 4/19/2018 10:21 PM, David Dalton wrote:
> It was a rough 2.5 hours, but this afternoon I passed my final
> Ph.D. oral defence. Now all I have to do is make some
> corrections to my thesis, submit it to the library, and
> attend Convocation on May 30.
> 
> My thesis is in geophysics, specifically applied math applied
> to theoretical seismology and continuum mechanics. The
> title is "On Backus average in modelling guided waves”
> and I will announce on here when the final version is
> available online.
> 
> I probably would have gotten my Ph.D. back in 1993 if I
> hadn’t been affected by bipolar disorder starting in 1991,
> but luckily I have not had significant problems since
> early 2005 and have not been in hospital since July, 1996.
> 
> The CV on my home page needs to be updated with the
> recent Ph.D. residency and with the five papers on which
> the thesis is based, but I probably won’t do that until
> after I get my thesis in the library. I plan to take the
> summer mostly off but will start looking for a postdoc
> for the fall or winter reasonably soon.
> 

congradulations!!
years and years of hard work there!
I never tried got masters instead, needed $$ faster.

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#681809

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-04-20 18:20 -0400
Message-ID<XItCC.47$np1.10@fx06.iad>
In reply to#681736
On 4/20/2018 12:05 AM, Sergio wrote:
> On 4/19/2018 10:21 PM, David Dalton wrote:
>> It was a rough 2.5 hours, but this afternoon I passed my final
>> Ph.D. oral defence. Now all I have to do is make some
>> corrections to my thesis, submit it to the library, and
>> attend Convocation on May 30.
>>
>> My thesis is in geophysics, specifically applied math applied
>> to theoretical seismology and continuum mechanics. The
>> title is "On Backus average in modelling guided waves”
>> and I will announce on here when the final version is
>> available online.
>>
>> I probably would have gotten my Ph.D. back in 1993 if I
>> hadn’t been affected by bipolar disorder starting in 1991,
>> but luckily I have not had significant problems since
>> early 2005 and have not been in hospital since July, 1996.
>>
>> The CV on my home page needs to be updated with the
>> recent Ph.D. residency and with the five papers on which
>> the thesis is based, but I probably won’t do that until
>> after I get my thesis in the library. I plan to take the
>> summer mostly off but will start looking for a postdoc
>> for the fall or winter reasonably soon.
>>
> 
> congradulations!!
> years and years of hard work there!
> I never tried got masters instead, needed $$ faster.
> 
Sergio is correct. When I was an undergrad I had a bunch of data on 
salaries and professional pay as years of experience go on. One thing 
was very clear and that is that a Master's is the optimum point. Even 
though you start higher with Ph.D. you never really make up the lost 
years it took to get it while the master's degree guy has a job and is 
advancing in salary while you vegetate. And a postdoc is worse putting 
you Way behind the curve. Sometimes there are other considerations than 
mere money, however.

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#681819

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-04-20 18:40 -0500
Message-ID<pbdtpi$fvm$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#681809
On 4/20/2018 5:20 PM, benj wrote:
> On 4/20/2018 12:05 AM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 4/19/2018 10:21 PM, David Dalton wrote:
>>> It was a rough 2.5 hours, but this afternoon I passed my final
>>> Ph.D. oral defence. Now all I have to do is make some
>>> corrections to my thesis, submit it to the library, and
>>> attend Convocation on May 30.
>>>
>>> My thesis is in geophysics, specifically applied math applied
>>> to theoretical seismology and continuum mechanics. The
>>> title is "On Backus average in modelling guided waves”
>>> and I will announce on here when the final version is
>>> available online.
>>>
>>> I probably would have gotten my Ph.D. back in 1993 if I
>>> hadn’t been affected by bipolar disorder starting in 1991,
>>> but luckily I have not had significant problems since
>>> early 2005 and have not been in hospital since July, 1996.
>>>
>>> The CV on my home page needs to be updated with the
>>> recent Ph.D. residency and with the five papers on which
>>> the thesis is based, but I probably won’t do that until
>>> after I get my thesis in the library. I plan to take the
>>> summer mostly off but will start looking for a postdoc
>>> for the fall or winter reasonably soon.
>>>
>>
>> congradulations!!
>> years and years of hard work there!
>> I never tried got masters instead, needed $$ faster.
>>
> Sergio is correct. When I was an undergrad I had a bunch of data on
> salaries and professional pay as years of experience go on. One thing
> was very clear and that is that a Master's is the optimum point. Even
> though you start higher with Ph.D. you never really make up the lost
> years it took to get it while the master's degree guy has a job and is
> advancing in salary while you vegetate. And a postdoc is worse putting
> you Way behind the curve. Sometimes there are other considerations than
> mere money, however.

the # of jobs in PHD are not so many either. teaching yes,
demand in industry is hard, Math PHDs ...
physics phds got into stock market Quants
anyhow it is 10 years to phd, lots of hard work, (no income) and you
have to prove you are a leader in the field, by a good published paper
or two or three

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#681759

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-04-20 07:59 -0700
Message-ID<1d985f9d-3891-42f7-88fc-7e69145ddba2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#681726
On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 11:21:40 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> It was a rough 2.5 hours, but this afternoon I passed my final
> Ph.D. oral defence. Now all I have to do is make some
> corrections to my thesis, submit it to the library, and
> attend Convocation on May 30.
> 
> My thesis is in geophysics, specifically applied math applied
> to theoretical seismology and continuum mechanics. The
> title is "On Backus average in modelling guided waves”
> and I will announce on here when the final version is
> available online.

Congratulations!

That is a great accomplishment.
That's an interesting field also.

Good luck.
  ed

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#681777

FromLofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com>
Date2018-04-20 12:09 -0500
Message-ID<2l7kddddkfegbu2egditkm9mnmvqbgvcap@4ax.com>
In reply to#681726
On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 00:51:36 -0230, David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>
wrote:

> It was a rough 2.5 hours, but this afternoon I passed my final Ph.D.
> oral defence....

Congratulations.

-- 
Goat

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#681806

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-04-20 18:14 -0400
Message-ID<4DtCC.37687$PE5.16508@fx37.iad>
In reply to#681726
On 4/19/2018 11:21 PM, David Dalton wrote:
> It was a rough 2.5 hours, but this afternoon I passed my final
> Ph.D. oral defence. Now all I have to do is make some
> corrections to my thesis, submit it to the library, and
> attend Convocation on May 30.
> 
> My thesis is in geophysics, specifically applied math applied
> to theoretical seismology and continuum mechanics. The
> title is "On Backus average in modelling guided waves”
> and I will announce on here when the final version is
> available online.
> 
> I probably would have gotten my Ph.D. back in 1993 if I
> hadn’t been affected by bipolar disorder starting in 1991,
> but luckily I have not had significant problems since
> early 2005 and have not been in hospital since July, 1996.
> 
> The CV on my home page needs to be updated with the
> recent Ph.D. residency and with the five papers on which
> the thesis is based, but I probably won’t do that until
> after I get my thesis in the library. I plan to take the
> summer mostly off but will start looking for a postdoc
> for the fall or winter reasonably soon.
> 
Contrary to what you may have observed in this group posting on the 
internet does NOT cure mental illness. Good news is bipolar tends to 
come and go. Bad news is it usually does show up eventually. But good 
news is that with proper daily effort on your part it can be dealt with 
if not cured. (This is life advice not medical advice and I have seen it 
done)

Well congratulations on making into the special club. "Dr. Kensi" will 
show you the secret handshake.

Postdoc? <Snort>! Hey what you are supposed to do now is get a real job 
and contribute back to society. Forget being a "student with degree" who 
does all the work and innovation while your boss with the job takes all 
the money and credit. Screw that! What is your degree in? ChemistrY?

Rule for accepting a job. Ask yourself: "Would I take this job if it 
paid NOTHING?" If the answer is "yes" take the job (which presumably 
won't pay nothing) otherwise keep looking. Your education is not over 
now, it's just beginning! Think of each new job as an opportunity to 
learn about something you want to know.

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#681820

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-04-20 18:43 -0500
Message-ID<pbdtvm$fvm$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#681806
On 4/20/2018 5:14 PM, benj wrote:
> On 4/19/2018 11:21 PM, David Dalton wrote:
>> It was a rough 2.5 hours, but this afternoon I passed my final
>> Ph.D. oral defence. Now all I have to do is make some
>> corrections to my thesis, submit it to the library, and
>> attend Convocation on May 30.
>>
>> My thesis is in geophysics, specifically applied math applied
>> to theoretical seismology and continuum mechanics. The
>> title is "On Backus average in modelling guided waves”
>> and I will announce on here when the final version is
>> available online.
>>
>> I probably would have gotten my Ph.D. back in 1993 if I
>> hadn’t been affected by bipolar disorder starting in 1991,
>> but luckily I have not had significant problems since
>> early 2005 and have not been in hospital since July, 1996.
>>
>> The CV on my home page needs to be updated with the
>> recent Ph.D. residency and with the five papers on which
>> the thesis is based, but I probably won’t do that until
>> after I get my thesis in the library. I plan to take the
>> summer mostly off but will start looking for a postdoc
>> for the fall or winter reasonably soon.
>>
> Contrary to what you may have observed in this group posting on the
> internet does NOT cure mental illness. Good news is bipolar tends to
> come and go. Bad news is it usually does show up eventually. But good
> news is that with proper daily effort on your part it can be dealt with
> if not cured. (This is life advice not medical advice and I have seen it
> done)
> 
> Well congratulations on making into the special club. "Dr. Kensi" will
> show you the secret handshake.
> 
> Postdoc? <Snort>! Hey what you are supposed to do now is get a real job
> and contribute back to society. Forget being a "student with degree" who
> does all the work and innovation while your boss with the job takes all
> the money and credit. Screw that! What is your degree in? ChemistrY?
> 
> Rule for accepting a job. Ask yourself: "Would I take this job if it
> paid NOTHING?" If the answer is "yes" take the job (which presumably
> won't pay nothing) otherwise keep looking. Your education is not over
> now, it's just beginning! Think of each new job as an opportunity to
> learn about something you want to know.
> 

he can float over to the oil industry, make big bucks. I met a retired
geologist, rich dude, may be phd, all he did was identify shells in the
rock strata that told them how the depth of the oil well was and if it
was going to hit oil. big bucks in that, now more mapped, automated,

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#681822

FromDavid Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>
Date2018-04-20 22:04 -0230
Message-ID<0001HW.208ABE9A018C922E700006E292CF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#681820
On Apr 20, 2018, Sergio wrote
(in article <pbdtvm$fvm$2@gioia.aioe.org>):

> On 4/20/2018 5:14 PM, benj wrote:
> > On 4/19/2018 11:21 PM, David Dalton wrote:
> > > It was a rough 2.5 hours, but this afternoon I passed my final
> > > Ph.D. oral defence. Now all I have to do is make some
> > > corrections to my thesis, submit it to the library, and
> > > attend Convocation on May 30.
> > >
> > > My thesis is in geophysics, specifically applied math applied
> > > to theoretical seismology and continuum mechanics. The
> > > title is "On Backus average in modelling guided waves”
> > > and I will announce on here when the final version is
> > > available online.
> > >
> > > I probably would have gotten my Ph.D. back in 1993 if I
> > > hadn’t been affected by bipolar disorder starting in 1991,
> > > but luckily I have not had significant problems since
> > > early 2005 and have not been in hospital since July, 1996.
> > >
> > > The CV on my home page needs to be updated with the
> > > recent Ph.D. residency and with the five papers on which
> > > the thesis is based, but I probably won’t do that until
> > > after I get my thesis in the library. I plan to take the
> > > summer mostly off but will start looking for a postdoc
> > > for the fall or winter reasonably soon.
> > Contrary to what you may have observed in this group posting on the
> > internet does NOT cure mental illness. Good news is bipolar tends to
> > come and go. Bad news is it usually does show up eventually. But good
> > news is that with proper daily effort on your part it can be dealt with
> > if not cured. (This is life advice not medical advice and I have seen it
> > done)
> >
> > Well congratulations on making into the special club. "Dr. Kensi" will
> > show you the secret handshake.
> >
> > Postdoc? <Snort>! Hey what you are supposed to do now is get a real job
> > and contribute back to society. Forget being a "student with degree" who
> > does all the work and innovation while your boss with the job takes all
> > the money and credit. Screw that! What is your degree in? ChemistrY?
> >
> > Rule for accepting a job. Ask yourself: "Would I take this job if it
> > paid NOTHING?" If the answer is "yes" take the job (which presumably
> > won't pay nothing) otherwise keep looking. Your education is not over
> > now, it's just beginning! Think of each new job as an opportunity to
> > learn about something you want to know.
>
> he can float over to the oil industry, make big bucks. I met a retired
> geologist, rich dude, may be phd, all he did was identify shells in the
> rock strata that told them how the depth of the oil well was and if it
> was going to hit oil. big bucks in that, now more mapped, automated,

Yeah, if I don’t land a postdoc I may lean on some of my friends
in high places in Calgary to see if I can land a job in an oil
company or geophysical service company.

-- 
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“and if I shed a tear I won't cage it/I won't fear love
and if I feel a rage I won't deny it/I won't fear love" (Sarah McLachlan)

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#682097

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-04-23 08:44 -0700
Message-ID<70143715-3140-42c7-918c-76ab61cce1ca@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#681806
On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 6:14:29 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
[]
> 
> Rule for accepting a job. Ask yourself: "Would I take this job if it 
> paid NOTHING?" If the answer is "yes" take the job (which presumably 
> won't pay nothing) otherwise keep looking. Your education is not over 
> now, it's just beginning! Think of each new job as an opportunity to 
> learn about something you want to know.

Actually some good advice from benj!

Sometimes you come off as a decent fellow, benj.
(But don't worry, I won't let it spoil your reputation here.)

Ed

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#682119

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-04-23 15:25 -0400
Message-ID<4rqDC.13890$wG5.7904@fx02.iad>
In reply to#682097
On 4/23/2018 11:44 AM, Edward Prochak wrote:
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 6:14:29 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> []
>>
>> Rule for accepting a job. Ask yourself: "Would I take this job if it
>> paid NOTHING?" If the answer is "yes" take the job (which presumably
>> won't pay nothing) otherwise keep looking. Your education is not over
>> now, it's just beginning! Think of each new job as an opportunity to
>> learn about something you want to know.
> 
> Actually some good advice from benj!

Hey, ALL my advice is good! I can't help it if the kooks and science 
fundies here have minds too closed to understand it!

> Sometimes you come off as a decent fellow, benj.
> (But don't worry, I won't let it spoil your reputation here.)
> 
> Ed

I AM a decent fellow! But this is the INTENET. When in Rome...etc.
People are so nuts. They watch TV all day and then think those actors 
actually are the people they are pretending to be. Get a life.


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#682133

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-04-23 15:20 -0500
Message-ID<pblf6j$54t$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#682119
On 4/23/2018 2:25 PM, benj wrote:
> On 4/23/2018 11:44 AM, Edward Prochak wrote:
>> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 6:14:29 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
>> []
>>>
>>> Rule for accepting a job. Ask yourself: "Would I take this job if it
>>> paid NOTHING?" If the answer is "yes" take the job (which presumably
>>> won't pay nothing) otherwise keep looking. Your education is not over
>>> now, it's just beginning! Think of each new job as an opportunity to
>>> learn about something you want to know.
>>
>> Actually some good advice from benj!
> 
> Hey, ALL my advice is good! I can't help it if the kooks and science
> fundies here have minds too closed to understand it!
> 
>> Sometimes you come off as a decent fellow, benj.
>> (But don't worry, I won't let it spoil your reputation here.)
>>
>> Ed
> 
> I AM a decent fellow! But this is the INTENET. When in Rome...etc.
> People are so nuts. They watch TV all day and then think those actors
> actually are the people they are pretending to be. Get a life.
> 
> 
> 

kesni and Nads are going to be glued to the tele, yea, Jersey Shore is
coming back !

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#688066

FromDavid Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>
Date2018-06-01 02:23 -0230
Message-ID<0001HW.20C108AC034B8E7E7000076262CF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#681726
On Apr 20, 2018, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.20899440017F8553700006E292CF@news.eternal-september.org>):

> It was a rough 2.5 hours, but this afternoon I passed my final
> Ph.D. oral defence. Now all I have to do is make some
> corrections to my thesis, submit it to the library, and
> attend Convocation on May 30.
>
> My thesis is in geophysics, specifically applied math applied
> to theoretical seismology and continuum mechanics. The
> title is "On Backus average in modelling guided waves”

I made corrections and uploaded the thesis on May 3, and
attended Convocation last night. I’ll follow up here again
when my thesis is available online, whether on the
university library web site, the national thesis database,
or on my home page.

-- 
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“In the merry month of June, from me home I started
Left the girls of Tuam nearly broken hearted" (traditional)

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