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  Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 12:55 -0500
    Re: Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings? gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 13:31 -0500
      Re: Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings? Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-09-04 21:22 +0000
    Re: Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings? dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:04 -0700
    Re: Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 05:45 -0400
      Re: Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings? Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 07:57 -0700
        Re: Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 12:50 -0400
          Re: Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings? gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 12:04 -0500
        Re: Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings? "Gob Knobbler" <invalid@porat.net> - 2015-09-05 11:25 -0700
    Re: Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-09-05 07:38 -0700

#518925 — Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings?

Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings?
> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lost-in-thought-how-important-to-physics-were-einstein-s-imaginings/


> Gedankenexperiment, German for “thought experiment,” was Albert
> Einstein's famous name for the imaginings that led to his greatest
> breakthroughs in physics. He traced his realization of light's finite
> speed—the core idea of special relativity—to his teenage daydreams
> about riding beams of light. General relativity, his monumental
> theory of gravitation, has its origins in his musings about riding up
> and down in an elevator. In both cases, Einstein crafted new theories
> about the natural world by using his mind's eye to push beyond the
> limitations of laboratory measurements.
>
> Einstein was neither the first nor the last theorist to do this, but
> his remarkable achievements were pivotal in establishing the
> gedankenexperiment as a cornerstone of modern theoretical physics.
> Today physicists regularly use thought experiments to craft new
> theories and to seek out inconsistencies or novel effects within
> existing ones.



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#518929

On 9/4/2015 12:55 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings?
>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lost-in-thought-how-important-to-physics-were-einstein-s-imaginings/
>>
>
>
>> Gedankenexperiment, German for “thought experiment,” was Albert
>> Einstein's famous name for the imaginings that led to his greatest
>> breakthroughs in physics. He traced his realization of light's finite
>> speed—the core idea of special relativity—to his teenage daydreams
>> about riding beams of light. General relativity, his monumental
>> theory of gravitation, has its origins in his musings about riding up
>> and down in an elevator. In both cases, Einstein crafted new theories
>> about the natural world by using his mind's eye to push beyond the
>> limitations of laboratory measurements.


poor scientific american.

	lost in worlds of sub-journalism,

unable to discuss equations, meaning, derivations, or assumptions....

able to conjecture simple non-scientific tangents, like, "What color 
were Einstein's Shoes and why ?"


poor scientific american, infested with non scientific contract journalists

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#518945

On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 13:31:11 -0500, gilber34 wrote:

> 
> poor scientific american.
> 
> 	lost in worlds of sub-journalism,
> 
> unable to discuss equations, meaning, derivations, or assumptions....
> 

That's why it's Wormley's favorite publication.

Sammy needs his own Usenet group: sci.physics.kiddie

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#518932

On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 7:55:31 PM UTC+2, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings?
> > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lost-in-thought-how-important-to-physics-were-einstein-s-imaginings/
> 
> 
> > Gedankenexperiment, German for "thought experiment," was Albert
> > Einstein's famous name for the imaginings that led to his greatest
> > breakthroughs in physics. He traced his realization of light's finite
> > speed--the core idea of special relativity--to his teenage daydreams
> > about riding beams of light. General relativity, his monumental
> > theory of gravitation, has its origins in his musings about riding up
> > and down in an elevator. In both cases, Einstein crafted new theories
> > about the natural world by using his mind's eye to push beyond the
> > limitations of laboratory measurements.
> >
> > Einstein was neither the first nor the last theorist to do this, but
> > his remarkable achievements were pivotal in establishing the
> > gedankenexperiment as a cornerstone of modern theoretical physics.
> > Today physicists regularly use thought experiments to craft new
> > theories and to seek out inconsistencies or novel effects within
> > existing ones.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

i propose substitute velocity u = i c. i = sqrt[-1].
what will be the relativity with u instead of that with c ???

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#519046

On 9/4/2015 1:55 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings?
>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lost-in-thought-how-important-to-physics-were-einstein-s-imaginings/
>>
>
>
>> Gedankenexperiment, German for “thought experiment,” was Albert
>> Einstein's famous name for the imaginings that led to his greatest
>> breakthroughs in physics. He traced his realization of light's finite
>> speed—the core idea of special relativity—to his teenage daydreams
>> about riding beams of light. General relativity, his monumental
>> theory of gravitation, has its origins in his musings about riding up
>> and down in an elevator. In both cases, Einstein crafted new theories
>> about the natural world by using his mind's eye to push beyond the
>> limitations of laboratory measurements.
>>
>> Einstein was neither the first nor the last theorist to do this, but
>> his remarkable achievements were pivotal in establishing the
>> gedankenexperiment as a cornerstone of modern theoretical physics.
>> Today physicists regularly use thought experiments to craft new
>> theories and to seek out inconsistencies or novel effects within
>> existing ones.


Excellent article. I often find myself doing these thought experiments 
and failing. It's all about how many moves ahead can you think as it is 
in chess. Einstein could do maybe 6-8. I am limited to 4-6..And dropping 
with age.

Many times I feel that I am on the verge of new science thought and it 
all falls apart. I think that this must be ubiquitous because almost all 
great, original scientific theories have come from young people.


"Rejoice, young man, in thy youth". -Ecclesiastes 11:9



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#519090

On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 5:44:41 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> On 9/4/2015 1:55 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings?
> >> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lost-in-thought-how-important-to-physics-were-einstein-s-imaginings/
> >>
> >> Gedankenexperiment, German for “thought experiment,” was Albert
> >> Einstein's famous name for the imaginings that led to his greatest
> >> breakthroughs in physics. He traced his realization of light's finite
> >> speed—the core idea of special relativity—to his teenage daydreams
> >> about riding beams of light. General relativity, his monumental
> >> theory of gravitation, has its origins in his musings about riding up
> >> and down in an elevator. In both cases, Einstein crafted new theories
> >> about the natural world by using his mind's eye to push beyond the
> >> limitations of laboratory measurements.
> >>
> >> Einstein was neither the first nor the last theorist to do this, but
> >> his remarkable achievements were pivotal in establishing the
> >> gedankenexperiment as a cornerstone of modern theoretical physics.
> >> Today physicists regularly use thought experiments to craft new
> >> theories and to seek out inconsistencies or novel effects within
> >> existing ones.
> 
> Excellent article. I often find myself doing these thought experiments 
> and failing. It's all about how many moves ahead can you think as it is 
> in chess. Einstein could do maybe 6-8. I am limited to 4-6..And dropping 
> with age.

HVAC you fail at everything, age has nothing to do with it.

Chess is believed to have originated in Eastern India, c. 280 – 550
CE,[27] in the Gupta Empire,[28][29][30][31] where its early form in
the 6th century was known as chaturaṅga (Sanskrit: चतुरङ्ग), literally
four divisions [of the military] – infantry, cavalry, elephants, and
chariotry, represented by the pieces that would evolve into the modern
pawn, knight, bishop, and rook, respectively. You're welcome.

> Many times I feel that I am on the verge of new science thought and it 
> all falls apart. I think that this must be ubiquitous because almost all 
> great, original scientific theories have come from young people.

As usual, wrong! Go ahead, define young. Or people, for that matter.

> "Rejoice, young man, in thy youth". -Ecclesiastes 11:9

Then the Atheist HVAC shall not quote the Bible. Commandment #...

Ecclesiastes (/ɨˌkliːziˈæstiːz/; Greek: Ἐκκλησιαστής, Ekklesiastes,
Hebrew: קֹהֶלֶת, Qoheleth, Koheleth) is one of 24 books of the Tanakh or
Hebrew Bible, where it is classified as one of the Ketuvim (or "Writings").

> -- 
> "Are we going to fight or are we going to stand around all day?"
> https://goo.gl/TU0Xr6

-- Mahipal "Here I'm going back to |< MassKachusetts... History >|..."

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#519105

On 9/5/2015 10:57 AM, Mahipal wrote:
>
>> Many times I feel that I am on the verge of new science thought and it
>> all falls apart. I think that this must be ubiquitous because almost all
>> great, original scientific theories have come from young people.
>
> As usual, wrong! Go ahead, define young. Or people, for that matter.


Unfortunately your request has been denied.


>> "Rejoice, young man, in thy youth". -Ecclesiastes 11:9
>
> Then the Atheist HVAC shall not quote the Bible. Commandment #...


As I am schooled, trained and educated in all forms of communication, I 
am afraid that once again your request has been denied.


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#519107

On 9/5/2015 11:50 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 9/5/2015 10:57 AM, Mahipal wrote:
>>
   Many times I feel that I am on the verge of new science thought and it
>>> all falls apart. I think that this must be ubiquitous because almost all
>>> great, original scientific theories have come from young people.
>>
>> As usual, wrong! Go ahead, define young. Or people, for that matter.

>
> Unfortunately your request has been denied.
>
>
>>> "Rejoice, young man, in thy youth". -Ecclesiastes 11:9

>> Then the Atheist HVAC shall not quote the Bible. Commandment #...
>
>
> As I am schooled, trained and educated in all forms of communication, I
> am afraid that once again your request has been denied.
>
>

you sound like Dell Support.

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#519115

Adios, rectum-boy.

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#519088

<swormley1@gmail.com> "Sam Wormley" wrote about
"How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings"
in a cogent & rational post in which Sam Wormley shed
>
< http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>
>
But the kind of post below is an embarrassing act of
hero worship of Albert's Sphincter by Sam & Sci.Am's
yenta Sabine Hossenfelder, both of whom truly deserve
the label as being Einstein Dingleberries... who are
working feverishly to preserve Einstein’s utterly useless
Gedanken farts as being a precious Jewish cultural
heritage. … hmmm… ahahaha… LOL… ROTFLMAO!
>
Sam cut + patysed:
> Lost in Thought--How Important to Physics Were Einstein's Imaginings?
>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lost-in-thought-how-important-to-physics-were-einstein-s-imaginings/
>
>> Gedankenexperiment, German for “thought experiment,” was Albert
>> Einstein's famous name for the imaginings that led to his greatest
>> breakthroughs in physics. He traced his realization of light's finite
>> speed—the core idea of special relativity—to his teenage daydreams
>> about riding beams of light. General relativity, his monumental
>> theory of gravitation, has its origins in his musings about riding up
>> and down in an elevator. In both cases, Einstein crafted new theories
>> about the natural world by using his mind's eye to push beyond the
>> limitations of laboratory measurements.
>>
>> Einstein was neither the first nor the last theorist to do this, but
>> his remarkable achievements were pivotal in establishing the
>> gedankenexperiment as a cornerstone of modern theoretical physics.
>> Today physicists regularly use thought experiments to craft new
>> theories and to seek out inconsistencies or novel effects within
>> existing ones.
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.
> 

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