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I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.

Started byJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
First post2015-08-04 00:39 -0700
Last post2015-08-05 06:54 -0400
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  I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 00:39 -0700
    Start Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 08:26 -0700
    Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 17:07 +0000
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:22 -0500
        Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 14:31 -0500
          You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 12:39 -0700
            Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 14:53 -0500
              Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 14:46 -0700
                Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 17:08 -0500
                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:13 +0000
                    Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:42 -0500
                Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 15:11 -0700
                  Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:15 -0700
                Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-05 07:56 -0400
                  "The Bachelor" (on the TV show) is a prissy bottom. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 10:45 -0700
                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 14:06 +0000
                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:13 -0400
                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 14:31 +0000
                      Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:06 -0400
                        Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 17:26 +0200
                          Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:29 -0400
                            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 15:42 +0000
                              Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:00 -0400
                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 16:11 +0000
                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:37 -0400
                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 18:51 +0200
                                      Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:59 -0400
                                        Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 19:04 +0200
                                          Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 17:48 +0000
                                            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 20:07 +0200
                                              Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:09 +0000
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:26 -0400
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:30 +0000
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 12:44 -0700
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:50 -0400
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-05 15:47 -0700
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 14:14 -0500
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:21 -0500
                                            Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:28 -0500
                                              Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:33 +0000
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:40 -0500
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:55 -0400
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:37 -0500
                                                        Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 07:01 -0400
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:33 +0000
                          What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 11:17 -0700
                            Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:31 -0400
                              Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:45 +0000
                            Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:35 +0000
                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:21 -0500
                    Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 17:02 +0200
                      Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:26 -0400
            Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:20 +0000
            Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> - 2015-08-04 15:46 -0700
              Show us your source code. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:26 -0700
              Show us your source code. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:29 -0700
          Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> - 2015-08-04 15:40 -0700
            Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-04 22:59 +0000
            Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 23:00 +0000
              Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:45 -0500
        Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 01:38 -0400
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 13:46 -0400
      Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 11:31 -0700
        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-04 13:54 -0700
          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:16 +0000
            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:26 -0500
              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-04 21:35 +0000
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:50 -0500
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 07:57 -0400
              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-04 21:38 +0000
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 23:36 -0700
              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:48 +0000
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:53 -0500
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:08 +0000
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 17:28 -0500
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:47 +0000
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 18:06 -0500
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:52 -0500
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 00:22 +0000
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 07:50 -0500
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 11:45 -0500
            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 17:10 -0500
              Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 15:21 -0700
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:37 +0000
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:56 -0500
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-05 08:11 -0400
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:09 -0500
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:24 -0400
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:09 -0500
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:03 -0400
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:10 -0500
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:22 -0400
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:30 -0400
                              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:34 -0500
                          Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 11:03 -0700
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 04:18 -0500
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-06 17:48 +0000
                              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 07:59 -0500
                                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 08:42 -0500
                                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 17:35 +0000
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 13:57 -0500
                                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 19:44 +0000
                                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 15:03 -0500
                                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 20:23 +0000
                                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 15:45 -0500
                                              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 21:05 +0000
                                                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 16:38 -0500
                                                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-07 16:04 -0700
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 13:59 -0500
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 14:00 -0500
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 18:19 -0500
                                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-07 16:46 -0700
                                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 18:17 -0500
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-08 01:01 +0000
                                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-07 19:03 -0700
                                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 03:38 -0500
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 21:05 +0000
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 13:51 +0000
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:56 -0500
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:32 -0400
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:07 +0000
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Apollyon <adravirgo@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:11 -0700
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:05 -0500
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:16 -0700
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:45 +0000
                              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 16:52 -0500
                                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 22:26 +0000
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 01:24 -0400
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 05:43 -0400
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 07:43 -0500
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 10:10 -0700
              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:30 -0700
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:05 -0400
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:50 -0700
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:00 +0000
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:00 -0500
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "Buck Futter" <invalid@example.com> - 2015-08-05 22:35 -0700
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 01:50 -0700
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 04:18 -0500
          I'm watching you right now. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 14:19 -0700
            Re: I'm watching you right now. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 16:36 -0500
            Re: I'm watching you right now. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-04 17:16 -0700
              Ubuntu Spyware: What to do? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:41 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu Spyware: What to do? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-06 12:29 -0700
              Re: I'm watching you right now. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 03:47 +0000
                Re: I'm watching you right now. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:11 -0500
                  Re: I'm watching you right now. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 21:22 +0000
                    Re: I'm watching you right now. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-06 00:53 +0000
          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:55 -0500
            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 21:30 +0000
        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "Mahipal" <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 17:44 -0700
          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 18:01 -0700
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-04 14:34 -0500
        Indirectly, you (chrisv) see my posts. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 12:46 -0700
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 06:54 -0400

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#511283

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-04 18:45 -0500
Message-ID<mprirh$dk6$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#511277
On 8/4/2015 6:00 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:40:36 -0700, Rock Brentwood wrote:
>
>>
>> Microsoft is like the Sears or McDonalds of the computer world
>>
>
> Don't say "Sears."  Sears is a very good retailer with very good stuff.
>

used to be Sears and Roebuck, when did they off Roebuck ?
Sears owns Kmart, which says something bad about both.
Craftsman tools are ok.


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#511310

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 01:38 -0400
Message-ID<Cjhwx.71004$bp4.20169@fx25.iad>
In reply to#511184
On 08/04/2015 01:22 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 8/4/15 12:07 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> The Start Menu was specifically created by Microsoft, at great expense,
>> to accommodate mental retards.
>
>    Is that so...
>

Yup. It's true Sam. Bill created Win10 personalized just for you!
Get the picture?


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#511196

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 13:46 -0400
Message-ID<3U6wx.43887$a55.43271@fx10.iad>
In reply to#511183
On 08/04/2015 01:07 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:39:58 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>
>> I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.
>>
>
> The Start Menu was specifically created by Microsoft, at great expense,
> to accommodate mental retards.
>
> This is an undeniable historic fact.  Microsoft commissioned psychological
> experts ($$$) to observe the behavior of test subjects representing the common
> user, i.e. retards.  After intensive study the conclusion was that a
> "Start" button or menu was essential in allowing access for the common
> user, i.e. retards.
>
> So what's Jeffie, the retard, gonna do without his Start Menu?  He will,
> like all retards, just sit there and stare at the empty screen with his
> mouth hanging open while drooling all over his shirt.
>
I think the way they designed Win10 was the found a bunch of WEBTV users 
and had each one tell the way he'd like his OS to work. Done.

Rolf, is just pissed because win10 didn't come preloaded with a deep red 
font on a dark brown background.

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#511203 — Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 11:31 -0700
SubjectReplacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{11.31A.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#511183
Fabian_Russell,  The Start Menu was born out of research 
into how to teach monkey's to communicate with us.

As I said at the start of this thread,
I never see the Start Menu, nor Start Screen.

Instead, I created a new toolbar on the TaskBar and 
with the apps I want, in the order I want them.

To order them: "unLock" the TaskBar,
drap the apps around, then lock the TaskBar.

Only the top app's icon is seen on the TaskBar,
screenshot: "Jeff-Relf.Me/MyDesktop.PNG".

The other apps are in the ToolBar's drop_down menu.
Note: I don't use the Desktop, it's blank.

Start Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button.

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#511230 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2015-08-04 13:54 -0700
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<85ca8bdc-fed0-4b6e-9681-5e60df25958e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#511203
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:31:04 AM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Fabian_Russell,  The Start Menu was born out of research 
> into how to teach monkey's to communicate with us.
> 
> As I said at the start of this thread,
> I never see the Start Menu, nor Start Screen.
> 
> Instead, I created a new toolbar on the TaskBar and 
> with the apps I want, in the order I want them.
> 
> To order them: "unLock" the TaskBar,
> drap the apps around, then lock the TaskBar.
> 
> Only the top app's icon is seen on the TaskBar,
> screenshot: "Jeff-Relf.Me/MyDesktop.PNG".
> 
> The other apps are in the ToolBar's drop_down menu.
> Note: I don't use the Desktop, it's blank.
> 
> Start Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button.


I heard something about that Microsoft was going to start spying on us with the comera as of Win10!  Or was it the mike?  Both?  Or was it Google?  Do you know about that?

Double-A

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#511234 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-08-04 21:16 +0000
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<pan.2015.08.04.21.16.12@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#511230
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:54:47 -0700, Double-A wrote:

> 
> 
> I heard something about that Microsoft was going to start spying on us with
> the comera as of Win10!  Or was it the mike?  Both?  Or was it Google?
> Do you know about that?
> 

Windows 10 gives Microsoft a direct data link to the user machine.
Data in droves of all kinds will be automatically transfered to
Microsoft servers on a regular basis -- unless the user shuts
it off one by one during install and during a post-install configure.

They ain't fooling around this time.  Windows 10 makes the user
a part of Microsoft's local network.

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#511237 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 16:26 -0500
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<BOadnR_nPPKSs1zInZ2dnUU7-WWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#511234
On 8/4/15 4:16 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> Windows 10 gives Microsoft a direct data link to the user machine.
> Data in droves of all kinds will be automatically transfered to
> Microsoft servers on a regular basis -- unless the user shuts
> it off one by one during install and during a post-install configure.
>
> They ain't fooling around this time.  Windows 10 makes the user
> a part of Microsoft's local network.


   Is that so...

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#511241 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromR Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com>
Date2015-08-04 21:35 +0000
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<mprb71$hlh$1@odin.sdf-eu.org>
In reply to#511237
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/4/15 4:16 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> Windows 10 gives Microsoft a direct data link to the user machine.
>> Data in droves of all kinds will be automatically transfered to
>> Microsoft servers on a regular basis -- unless the user shuts
>> it off one by one during install and during a post-install configure.
>> They ain't fooling around this time.  Windows 10 makes the user
>> a part of Microsoft's local network.
>   Is that so...

And Google's search history on evvybody means no-one is anonymous anymore!

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Everything you warmballers say is a lie. We refute each and every one 
with references and you all pretend you've heard nothing.  And then 
simply dismiss anyone with proof as a "denier".
-- Ben Jacoby aka benj, 04/08/2015 08:23

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#511250 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 16:50 -0500
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<BOadnRjnPPIUrlzInZ2dnUU7-WWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#511241
On 8/4/15 4:35 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 8/4/15 4:16 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>> Windows 10 gives Microsoft a direct data link to the user machine.
>>> Data in droves of all kinds will be automatically transfered to
>>> Microsoft servers on a regular basis -- unless the user shuts
>>> it off one by one during install and during a post-install configure.
>>> They ain't fooling around this time.  Windows 10 makes the user
>>> a part of Microsoft's local network.
>>    Is that so...
>
> And Google's search history on evvybody means no-one is anonymous anymore!
>

   Time to switch to encryption and searches that don't track you.  :-)

   DuckDuckGo.com



> --
> [From the Project Much files:]
> Everything you warmballers say is a lie. We refute each and every one
> with references and you all pretend you've heard nothing.  And then
> simply dismiss anyone with proof as a "denier".
> -- Ben Jacoby aka benj, 04/08/2015 08:23
>


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#511343 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-05 07:57 -0400
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<mpstjv$63i$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#511250
On 8/4/2015 5:50 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>> And Google's search history on evvybody means no-one is anonymous
>> anymore!
>>
>
>    Time to switch to encryption and searches that don't track you.  :-)
>
>    DuckDuckGo.com


Lol

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HAIL HYDRA!
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#511246 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-08-04 21:38 +0000
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<qun79c-i77.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#511237
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/4/15 4:16 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> Windows 10 gives Microsoft a direct data link to the user machine.
>> Data in droves of all kinds will be automatically transfered to
>> Microsoft servers on a regular basis -- unless the user shuts
>> it off one by one during install and during a post-install configure.
>>
>> They ain't fooling around this time.  Windows 10 makes the user
>> a part of Microsoft's local network.
> 
> 
>   Is that so...

Yes, it is, shit for brains, and it has been widely published.

Windows 10 by default even makes your machine a source for the Internet
to download Windows 10; hope you aren't charged by the byte for access.

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#511704 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

From"nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-06 23:36 -0700
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<39357529-e08d-473a-9b8f-16992c648be6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#511246
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 2:46:06 PM UTC-7, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 8/4/15 4:16 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> >> Windows 10 gives Microsoft a direct data link to the user machine.

  Only if you let it.

> >> Data in droves of all kinds will be automatically transfered to
> >> Microsoft servers on a regular basis -- unless the user shuts
> >> it off one by one during install and during a post-install configure.

  It's not as laborious as everyone seems to assume. I found it quite easy, and no, I didn't choose to use Cortana either. Talking to myself is bad enough.

  The transferred data is as generic as what Android and Apple already get; statistics on what search terms you use, what kinds of touch gestures you use, stuff like that. Not passwords, not names or bank account numbers.

  There is probably an Internet Rule about there being a Conspiracy Theory for any topic.

> >> They ain't fooling around this time.  Windows 10 makes the user
> >> a part of Microsoft's local network.
> > 
> >   Is that so...
> 
> Yes, it is, shit for brains, and it has been widely published.

  There are many sites with articles on what to disable and why you might want to.

> Windows 10 by default even makes your machine a source for the Internet
> to download Windows 10; hope you aren't charged by the byte for access.

  Only on your local network (your side of the modem)- one computer DL's the updates and then shares with others on that network.

  The updates are quite quick so far.

  Also, boot time has been drastically improved. On my year-old touchscreen laptop, from pressing the power button to the login screen takes twelve seconds. From there to the desktop takes seven seconds.

  Personally I found the old version of the Start Menu fairly useful, and the new version equally so, but then I never really liked having to flip through my C: drive to find stuff. YMMV.


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#511249 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-08-04 21:48 +0000
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<pan.2015.08.04.21.47.27@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#511237
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 16:26:38 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

> 
>    Is that so...
>

Cartoons must be over.  Sammy is posting again.

Yes, that is so.

Microsoft is moving toward a software-as-a-service business model,
and Windows 10 is merely a transition.  Soon there will no more Windows
releases.  All software will be on Microsoft servers and the user's
machine will be only a "dumb" terminal.

Of course, a dumb terminal does not store data locally.  All associated
data will also be on Microsoft's "cloud."  Everything.  No choice.

So, for a subscription fee ($$$) that guarantees Microsoft income
in perpetuity, the user will get to had over mostly everything.
Most users, being veritable retards, won't know enough about what's
actually happening to object.

In fact, all software companies are moving to subscription-based
SaaS.  

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#511251 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 16:53 -0500
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<BOadnRvnPPLWqVzInZ2dnUU7-WUAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#511249
On 8/4/15 4:48 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> Microsoft is moving toward a software-as-a-service business model,
> and Windows 10 is merely a transition.  Soon there will no more Windows
> releases.  All software will be on Microsoft servers and the user's
> machine will be only a "dumb" terminal.

   You make it sound like a Chromebook. You don't know shit, do you.


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#511257 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-08-04 22:08 +0000
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<pan.2015.08.04.22.08.30@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#511251
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 16:53:15 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

> 
>    You make it sound like a Chromebook. You don't know shit, do you.
>

Saying that you know shit is being extremely generous.

Software lasts forever.  Software companies do not.  The only way to
guarantee a revenue stream is to use a subscription service.  Otherwise,
clients are liable to buy your package once and then use it for 20 years.

Photoshop has already gone that route.  No more releases to run on
individual owned and controlled workstations.  Now, the user must
pay a subscription fee and thus be forever locked in (owned) by a
particular vendor.

Stick to cartoons, Sammy.  They are designed for your mentality.











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#511268 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 17:28 -0500
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<BOadnRbnPPIHoVzInZ2dnUU7-WWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#511257
On 8/4/15 5:08 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 16:53:15 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>>
>>     You make it sound like a Chromebook. You don't know shit, do you.
>>
>
> Saying that you know shit is being extremely generous.
>
> Software lasts forever.  Software companies do not.  The only way to
> guarantee a revenue stream is to use a subscription service.  Otherwise,
> clients are liable to buy your package once and then use it for 20 years.

   That's so funny,  I can't think of much application software from
   twenty years ago still having anything to run on. There are
   exceptions--some FORTRAN programs I wrote to do data analysis in
   the 1990s still compiles and runs, but the world has moved on.

   I must admit I'm still running a calendar program developed at MIT
   since before 1991.



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#511273 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-08-04 22:47 +0000
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<pan.2015.08.04.22.47.39@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#511268
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:28:41 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

> 
>    I can't think of much application software from
>    twenty years ago still having anything to run on.
>

How about 20-year-old hardware?  There's plenty of that still
around and also lots of folks/companies still running Windows 95.

Furthermore, Microsoft goes to great lengths to maintain compatibility
with older software across its entire line of NT-based OS's.

You'd know this stuff but you only use computers to give the
appearance of being a digital person.  That's why you use Chromebook
and Apple exclusively.

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#511278 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 18:06 -0500
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<BOadnRPnPPLy2FzInZ2dnUU7-WWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#511273
On 8/4/15 5:47 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:28:41 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>>
>>     I can't think of much application software from
>>     twenty years ago still having anything to run on.
>>
>
> How about 20-year-old hardware?  There's plenty of that still
> around and also lots of folks/companies still running Windows 95.
>
> Furthermore, Microsoft goes to great lengths to maintain compatibility
> with older software across its entire line of NT-based OS's.
>
> You'd know this stuff but you only use computers to give the
> appearance of being a digital person.  That's why you use Chromebook
> and Apple exclusively.
>

   I'm a Unix guy -- always was and always will be.

   exec 5<>/dev/tcp/time.nist.gov/13; cat <&5 & cat >&5; exec 5>&-

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#511286 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-04 18:52 -0500
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<mprj8m$eas$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#511278
On 8/4/2015 6:06 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 8/4/15 5:47 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:28:41 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>     I can't think of much application software from
>>>     twenty years ago still having anything to run on.

>>
>> How about 20-year-old hardware?  There's plenty of that still
>> around and also lots of folks/companies still running Windows 95.
>>
>> Furthermore, Microsoft goes to great lengths to maintain compatibility
>> with older software across its entire line of NT-based OS's.
>>
>> You'd know this stuff but you only use computers to give the
>> appearance of being a digital person.  That's why you use Chromebook
>> and Apple exclusively.
>>
>
>    I'm a Unix guy -- always was and always will be.
>
>    exec 5<>/dev/tcp/time.nist.gov/13; cat <&5 & cat >&5; exec 5>&-
>

Unix'es

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix#/media/File:Unix_history-simple.svg

REM SCO Unix ?  I knew the SCO CEO who was doing the lawsuits, the guy 
was dishonest from the getgo. No other way to make money, so threaten to 
sue. Eventually they expended most all their money, fired the CEO, and 
drop the lawsuits.  CEO made a ton of money, and got away with it.

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#511295 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

FromR Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com>
Date2015-08-05 00:22 +0000
SubjectRe: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.
Message-ID<mprl04$c5j$1@odin.sdf-eu.org>
In reply to#511278
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/4/15 5:47 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:28:41 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>     I can't think of much application software from
>>>     twenty years ago still having anything to run on.
>> How about 20-year-old hardware?  There's plenty of that still
>> around and also lots of folks/companies still running Windows 95.
>> Furthermore, Microsoft goes to great lengths to maintain compatibility
>> with older software across its entire line of NT-based OS's.
>> You'd know this stuff but you only use computers to give the
>> appearance of being a digital person.  That's why you use Chromebook
>> and Apple exclusively.
>   I'm a Unix guy -- always was and always will be.
>   exec 5<>/dev/tcp/time.nist.gov/13; cat <&5 & cat >&5; exec 5>&-


Eek.

IKIDS$HKEX$$


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