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| Started by | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| First post | 2018-04-09 17:56 -0700 |
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Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-04-09 17:56 -0700
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-09 18:16 -0700
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 01:14 -0700
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 11:13 +0000
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 14:19 -0700
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 22:55 +0000
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-04-11 00:05 +0000
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 17:32 -0700
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 11:22 -0700
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-11 01:23 -0700
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 12:04 -0700
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-04-10 12:34 -0700
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 15:36 -0700
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-10 17:18 -0700
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-04-11 09:59 -0700
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-04-11 13:04 -0700
Re: Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-11 01:25 -0700
| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-09 17:56 -0700 |
| Subject | Black hole oddity; proposed to Hawking |
| Message-ID | <8d4e67ec-7161-442b-84c3-4f45e6f583b1@googlegroups.com> |
A singularity of infinite gravity ends space and time. But black holes continue to move in space time. This is a mutual contradiction. The end of space and time but a continued movement in space and time. How is this explained...? Hawking had no explanation. Can you do better? Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-04-09 18:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pah38s$929$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #680546 |
On 4/9/2018 5:56 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > A singularity of infinite gravity ends space and time. > But black holes continue to move in space time. > This is a mutual contradiction. The end of space and > time but a continued movement in space and time. How is > this explained...? Hawking had no explanation. Can > you do better? Need to think. Perhaps the black hole moves, however, it is still connected to the singularity locked at a point of infinity? Kind of like an umbilical cord, so to speak? Or, even though a singularity goes to infinity, it can still wander around in space. Don't know.
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 01:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cf19a191-d23f-41ca-8344-a0940f27f9a9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680548 |
Singularity is math. Math is not reality.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 11:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pai68d$6b9$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #680574 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote: > Singularity is math. > Math is not reality. > How about absolute zero? Allowed to be? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 14:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3848b4b9-3128-4287-977d-634f56de7ca7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680588 |
Odd "john <johnse...@gmail.com> wrote: > Singularity is math. > Math is not reality. > How about absolute zero? Allowed to be? -- " One billion years for a galaxy to rotate. Absolute zero. Size of proton. Speed of light. Surprise! Matter and Space are linked! How does YOUR bs model explain that, Odd? Oh, right. It doesn't. It makes no predictions that have turned out to be correct. Huh! Oh, well. More Dark Fudge will waste time and create jobs and most importantly will keep the status quo.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 22:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pajfd2$it7$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #680672 |
John wrote the following scree on his phone, completely screwing up the formatting: ===================== Odd "john <johnse...@gmail.com> wrote: Singularity is math. Math is not reality. How about absolute zero? Allowed to be? -- " One billion years for a galaxy to rotate. Absolute zero. Size of proton. Speed of light. Surprise! Matter and Space are linked! How does YOUR bs model explain that, Odd? Oh, right. It doesn't. It makes no predictions that have turned out to be correct. Huh! Oh, well. More Dark Fudge will waste time and create jobs and most importantly will keep the status quo. ========================== How does the model explain what? Absolute zero on the temperature scale? Do you believe there is such a thing? Do you believe classical laws of thermodynamics? Yes or no? As for making no predictions that have turned out to be correct.....what planet do you live on? Do you honestly believe that if there are ANY open questions not resolved, this means there have been NO correct predictions? I mean....REALLY??? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-04-11 00:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pajjgp$4i7$2@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #680672 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >Odd >"john <johnse...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Singularity is math. >> Math is not reality. >> >How about absolute zero? Allowed to be? >-- >" >One billion years for a galaxy to rotate. >Absolute zero. >Size of proton. >Speed of light. >Surprise! Matter and Space are linked! What are you babbling about now? What does the outer rotational speed of certain galaxies have to do with anything? Why didn't you answer Odd's question about absolute zero? Why did you mention the size of a proton and the speed of light? Time for a visit from the nurse with the giant needle?
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 17:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b89f2697-1136-42d6-a7ee-d8701cf54ca9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680703 |
MM Why why why You know, if you really did question, you would get answers. I mean, actually ask YOURSELF why, when you see/hear something you don't understand. Try it.
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 11:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <45d52ae1-75f0-459c-85f9-57ea8b65138d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680574 |
On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 1:14:14 AM UTC-7, john wrote: > Singularity is math. > Math is not reality. Mathematical points... Math exists as the order element of God's universe. Mitchell Raemsch; God creates gravity mathematically
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-04-11 01:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pakgm0$90k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #680629 |
On 4/10/2018 11:22 AM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 1:14:14 AM UTC-7, john wrote: >> Singularity is math. >> Math is not reality. > > Mathematical points... > Math exists as the order element of God's universe. If that is true, probably is, then God is a very beautiful entity indeed. :^) > > Mitchell Raemsch; God creates gravity mathematically >
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 12:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a1933da2-b416-4dc3-a772-a6ab29402a7b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680546 |
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:56:08 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> A singularity of infinite gravity ends space and time.
> But black holes continue to move in space time.
> This is a mutual contradiction. The end of space and
> time but a continued movement in space and time. How is
> this explained...? Hawking had no explanation. Can
> you do better?
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
I would not presume to have a better answer than Hawking.
The only correct answer is as he would say:
we do not know YET.
Ed
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 12:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cdc921af-db1a-496e-bbe4-6256bf6d4f98@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680640 |
On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 12:04:34 PM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote: > On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:56:08 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > A singularity of infinite gravity ends space and time. > > But black holes continue to move in space time. > > This is a mutual contradiction. The end of space and > > time but a continued movement in space and time. How is > > this explained...? Hawking had no explanation. Can > > you do better? > > > > Mitchell Raemsch > > I would not presume to have a better answer than Hawking. > The only correct answer is as he would say: > > we do not know YET. > > Ed Wrong. It could be wrong instead of a YET... Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 15:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0a852d02-7000-4037-95eb-c04630b4cf00@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680643 |
On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 12:34:16 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 12:04:34 PM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote: > > On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:56:08 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > > A singularity of infinite gravity ends space and time. > > > But black holes continue to move in space time. > > > This is a mutual contradiction. The end of space and > > > time but a continued movement in space and time. How is > > > this explained...? Hawking had no explanation. Can > > > you do better? > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch > > > > I would not presume to have a better answer than Hawking. > > The only correct answer is as he would say: > > > > we do not know YET. > > > > Ed > > Wrong. It could be wrong instead of a YET... > > Mitchell Raemsch BHs take away all space.No room for motion.Thus Time has no elbow room to tick.Bert
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2018-04-10 17:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pajk8p$5bv$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #680681 |
___"reber G=EMC^2"<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote: "I am a first class low wit bigot. Sad and so true. Bert" "No room for motion.Thus no elbow room to tick.Bert", when "I am all alone in my van and I am very depressed". Bert or when "I park & bark in the dark. I'm a stupid shit and full of it." Bert." > "Why am I posting this, it's making me cry as it always does".Bert > ______ "Why am I not loved by all?". Bert. > > > > hmmm...<snicker>...<chortle>...ahahahAHAHA...ROTFLMAO
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-04-11 09:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8ad85221-5689-4d63-9412-bb82f9a46c82@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680643 |
On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 3:34:16 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 12:04:34 PM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote: > > On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:56:08 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > > A singularity of infinite gravity ends space and time. > > > But black holes continue to move in space time. > > > This is a mutual contradiction. The end of space and > > > time but a continued movement in space and time. How is > > > this explained...? Hawking had no explanation. Can > > > you do better? > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch > > > > I would not presume to have a better answer than Hawking. > > The only correct answer is as he would say: > > > > we do not know YET. > > > > Ed > > Wrong. It could be wrong instead of a YET... > > Mitchell Raemsch In what manner is "I don't know" a wrong answer. You are just posting to be contrary. Ed
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-04-11 13:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4075b5bb-277e-428f-8f9b-8f9b4a51d03f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #680771 |
On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 9:59:56 AM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote: > On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 3:34:16 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 12:04:34 PM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote: > > > On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:56:08 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > A singularity of infinite gravity ends space and time. > > > > But black holes continue to move in space time. > > > > This is a mutual contradiction. The end of space and > > > > time but a continued movement in space and time. How is > > > > this explained...? Hawking had no explanation. Can > > > > you do better? > > > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch > > > > > > I would not presume to have a better answer than Hawking. > > > The only correct answer is as he would say: > > > > > > we do not know YET. > > > > > > Ed > > > > Wrong. It could be wrong instead of a YET... > > > > Mitchell Raemsch > > In what manner is "I don't know" a wrong answer. > You are just posting to be contrary. > Ed It could be wrong is not ruled out... Theoretically it is problematic all of the way. How do you know there is a YET? You are poster to to doubt... Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-04-11 01:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pakgp7$90k$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #680546 |
On 4/9/2018 5:56 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote: > A singularity of infinite gravity ends space and time. > But black holes continue to move in space time. > This is a mutual contradiction. Fwiw, there are ways to break mutual exclusion for certain things in programming. > The end of space and > time but a continued movement in space and time. How is > this explained...? Hawking had no explanation. Can > you do better? > > Mitchell Raemsch >
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